Test results..late info! + site url
Fastmoggy
I wanted to know a little more about this and found on this site that the
max is 2.2, bit of a coincidence!
Ok not been eating too well recently so self inflicted and lesson learnt!.
Diabetes don't go away soon as you get normal(ish) levels and loose weight.
Now is this 1.8 max level a regional one and thus varies from county to
county PCT's?
On the site ive just seen which is local to me it has the limit at 2.2
Either way i need to reduce that asap.
Apart from oily fish which im not to partial to what else can i add to my
chicken and fish(boil in the bag stuff).
Searching around the net (as u do) i found a local site which may be of
interest to newcomers and not so new alike.
It's >> http://www.nottinghamdiabetes.nhs.uk/bloodtest.html
Hope this site may be of use to people. Answered my questions in a format i
can understand.
Cheers all
Chris in a cold and wet Nottingham
Will summer ever arrive?
Fastmoggy
"Fastmoggy" <fast...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Just got told by DN my Trigs were 2.2 and that they should be 1.8.
Opps I think it should have read 'LOWER THAN' 1.8 or 2.2
Nicky
wrote:
>Just got told by DN my Trigs were 2.2 and that they should be 1.8.
>I wanted to know a little more about this and found on this site that the
>max is 2.2, bit of a coincidence!
Chris, trigs (unless you've got a high level genetically) are directly
related to your carb intake. The name - tri-glyceride - gives it away;
each molecule requires 3 molecules of carb-extracted glycerine to form
it. Eat less carbs; get lower trigs. The exception is with people
whose liver churns out glucose at the rate of knots, so they get high
trigs even with decent carb intakes. It may be possible to do
something about this with exercise, or drugs like metformin or milk
thistle.
Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25
bgl
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> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:29:48 +0100, "Fastmoggy" <fast...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Just got told by DN my Trigs were 2.2 and that they should be 1.8.
>>I wanted to know a little more about this and found on this site that the
>>max is 2.2, bit of a coincidence!
>
> Chris, trigs (unless you've got a high level genetically) are directly
> related to your carb intake. The name - tri-glyceride - gives it away;
> each molecule requires 3 molecules of carb-extracted glycerine to form
> it. Eat less carbs; get lower trigs. The exception is with people
> whose liver churns out glucose at the rate of knots, so they get high
> trigs even with decent carb intakes. It may be possible to do
> something about this with exercise, or drugs like metformin or milk
> thistle.
>
I have low trigs & eat medium amount carbs (or "high" by some people's
definition).
(maybe it's my exercise habits?)
YMMV!
bj
Trinkwasser
wrote:
You got the good genes!
I am not the only skinny and comparatively fit and active family
member to have ridiculous lipids. In my case cutting the carbs until
my BG no longer spiked, plus eating enough fat to frighten the
dietician, worked wonders. As you say, YMMV!
More than you ever wanted to know about lab tests
http://www.labtestsonline.org.uk/
international version
Fastmoggy
Thanks for that Nicky
I have been doing high carbs past several months as opposed to my normal
'healthy' diet which may explain the high count!
Mind you with the stress ive been under past 18 months with neighbours fro
hell and 3 court cases my regime went out the window as i never had a normal
day/night!
All that is now behind me so maybe i can reclaim some of my health?
I know it's not the end of the world but it's a place im not happy with.
Oh and end result with the neighbours from hell...we won the case but WE had
to move as they on benefits' and social wanted them to stay put! never did
see my blood pressure results that day!!!
Again thanks for your reply and perhaps i can reclaim some of my health
back?
Cheers
Chris
Alan S
<fast...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I have been doing high carbs past several months as opposed to my normal
>'healthy' diet which may explain the high count!
I think you can delete "may explain" and insert "explains".
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Nicky
<fast...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Again thanks for your reply and perhaps i can reclaim some of my health
>back?
Oh, yes, absolutely, Chris! You can sort your trigs out in weeks by
low carbing. That will also have a knock-on effect on your post-meal
bgs and your A1c. If you add exercise - do I recall you're a truck
driver? I have a driver mate who packs a folding bike for evening
runs... you'll be working on your insulin resistance too. Getting IR
down so your bg levels are stable within the normal range will have a
HUGE effect on your health. You'll probably get improvements in A1c,
cholesterol, blood pressure, plus any stray diabetic complications
you've picked up. Gotta be worth a go.
Two possible methods; pick up a low carb diet book (Atkins or Protein
Power would be my choices) and follow it exactly. This is good if
you're not sure what to eat, or need the discipline (and some recipes)
laid out for you, or if you have restrictions on test strip supplies.
The alternate plan is to work out your own low-spike routine, by using
Jennifer's test,test,test method:
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm
This allows you to work out exactly what's right for YOUR body - the
book plans will get close, but not spot-on - and really optimise your
health.
Good luck, mate - and let us know how it's going, huh? BTDT, so have
lots of people, you have a built-in cheering section here : )
Fastmoggy
"Alan S" <loralgtwei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:51:20 +0100, "Fastmoggy"
> <fast...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I have been doing high carbs past several months as opposed to my normal
>>'healthy' diet which may explain the high count!
>
> I think you can delete "may explain" and insert "explains".
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>
Denial is no excuse!
Mind you i suppose im not alone on this!
I still say that if i still had my strips i may not have been so complacent.
Oh well thanks for all the support on re railing me back onto the rails of
better health..
Cheers
Chris in a very wet and stormy Nottingham
Fastmoggy
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:51:20 +0100, "Fastmoggy"
> <fast...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Two possible methods; pick up a low carb diet book (Atkins or Protein
Ive heard of the Atkins which i think is a protein only?
will look at both diets and see which one suits me.
Is there a site i can look at for the protein power? I do eat steamed
chicken and boil in the bag fish so protein there and a good start.
Cheers Nicky
Chris
Still thundering here in Nottingham
Anyone seen the sun?
Nicky
<fast...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Nicky" <ukc802...@btconnect.com> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:51:20 +0100, "Fastmoggy"
>> <fast...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Two possible methods; pick up a low carb diet book (Atkins or Protein
>
>Ive heard of the Atkins which i think is a protein only?
> will look at both diets and see which one suits me.
>Is there a site i can look at for the protein power? I do eat steamed
>chicken and boil in the bag fish so protein there and a good start.
Chris, both Atkins and Protein Power are both primarily interested in
getting you to eat veggies, protein, enough fats, and way fewer carbs.
Steamed chicken and boil-in-the-bag fish don't sound like food in any
sense of the word to me... Roast chicken, or maybe salmon fried in a
bit of coconut oil, accompanied by a pile of green beans with a dob of
butter, now you're talking... filling, delicious, healthy, guaranteed
zero spike.
Here is the Atkins web site: beware of their frankenfoods, you don;t
need 'em:
http://www.atkins.com/
Here's the Protein Power forum:
http://www.proteinpower.com/forum/
and the Drs Eades' secret identities:
http://www.lowcarbcookworx.com/episodes/
Have fun,
Alan S
<fast...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gloriously sunny here, although a little chilly at 9C
overnight. Still, it will be 22 later today.
Try these two as a set:
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/10/weight-loss-cooking-and-eating-plan.html
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2008/05/what-to-eat-until-you-get-your-meter.html
Rob
<ukc802...@btconnect.com> writes
I've just had an annual check which was pretty good:
HbA1c 5.7
Cholesterol 3.5
but trigs about 3.2.
My dietary control of carbs seems okay and my doctor said that fatty
meat was pushing the trigs level and advised at least 3 meals of oily
fish per week.
You guys reckon it's down to carbs so now I'm a bit confused.
Rob
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"Rob" <r...@mla001.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <9q3e745n1dih13ha1...@4ax.com>, Nicky
> <ukc802...@btconnect.com> writes
>>On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:51:20 +0100, "Fastmoggy"
>
> I've just had an annual check which was pretty good:
>
> HbA1c 5.7
>
> Cholesterol 3.5
>
> but trigs about 3.2.
>
> My dietary control of carbs seems okay and my doctor said that fatty meat
> was pushing the trigs level and advised at least 3 meals of oily fish per
> week.
>
> You guys reckon it's down to carbs so now I'm a bit confused.
>
> Rob
> --
> Rob Evans
>
the other good effects of low carb diets.
Eating oily fish helps some problems, though, if the oils are
a natural part of the fish instead of added during cooling.
So why not try both at once?
Nicky
wrote:
>HbA1c 5.7
>
>Cholesterol 3.5
>
>but trigs about 3.2.
>
>My dietary control of carbs seems okay and my doctor said that fatty
>meat was pushing the trigs level and advised at least 3 meals of oily
>fish per week.
>
>You guys reckon it's down to carbs so now I'm a bit confused.
Those are very nice figures, Rob - except that you seem to be running
entirely on trigs, with no other lipids at all! Did you see the blood
test results yourself?
If they're accurate, I give up on you - you're weird :P - but here's
the layman's version of the current best thinking on the
carb/fat/protein relationship to diet:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E2D61F3EF934A35754C0A9649C8B63
Just as a matter of interest - do you do anything that might encourage
HDL, the good cholesterol, such as exercise or the odd glass of red
wine?
Rob
<ukc802...@btconnect.com> writes
The remaining free time is spent drinking red wine (mainly unfocused).
Nicky
wrote:
>In message <jqhm74l8f51rjdjf9...@4ax.com>, Nicky
><ukc802...@btconnect.com> writes
>>On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:46:09 +0100, Rob <r...@mla001.demon.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>HbA1c 5.7
>>>
>>>Cholesterol 3.5
>>>
>>>but trigs about 3.2.
>>>
>>>My dietary control of carbs seems okay and my doctor said that fatty
>>>meat was pushing the trigs level and advised at least 3 meals of oily
>>>fish per week.
>>>
>>>You guys reckon it's down to carbs so now I'm a bit confused.
>>
>>Those are very nice figures, Rob - except that you seem to be running
>>entirely on trigs, with no other lipids at all! Did you see the blood
>>test results yourself?
>>
>>If they're accurate, I give up on you - you're weird :P - but here's
>>the layman's version of the current best thinking on the
>>carb/fat/protein relationship to diet:
>>http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E2D61F3EF934A35754C0A
>>9649C8B63
>>
>>Just as a matter of interest - do you do anything that might encourage
>>HDL, the good cholesterol, such as exercise or the odd glass of red
>>wine?
>>
>I exercise (dancing) about 15 hours a week (to stay focused).
>
>The remaining free time is spent drinking red wine (mainly unfocused).
ROFL! So your HDL should be comfortably 1+ - either you have a
seriously skewed genetic lipid balance, or your doc or the lab has
made a mistake.
Trinkwasser
wrote:
>I've just had an annual check which was pretty good:
>
>HbA1c 5.7
Top marks!
>Cholesterol 3.5
>
>but trigs about 3.2.
That's weird. Are you sure that 3.5 isn't LDL? Try to get them written
down.
The ratio I go by is trigs/HDL which is a rough indication of insulin
resistance and also correlates well with cardiovascular risk.
>My dietary control of carbs seems okay and my doctor said that fatty
>meat was pushing the trigs level and advised at least 3 meals of oily
>fish per week.
>
>You guys reckon it's down to carbs so now I'm a bit confused.
Hmmm, well my lipids appear to correlate with carb intake, my trigs
dropped like a stone when I dropped the carbs, and my LDL actually
went UP on the low fat high carb diet. Eating more sat fats appears to
have made my HDL increase. One of us is built upside down.
Seriously though there are a mass of different genes involved, so
people's response to different dietary inputs is bound to vary.
Definitely the fish is an excellent idea but avoid the chips.