Reasons for Using Diabetes Word(s)
Pro-Humanist FREELOVER
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Since my good friends who support the way
things are regarding the diabetes word (and
the multi-word diabetes phrases sometimes
used) have not yet presented their case in a
convincing manner (IMO, with all due respect),
I thought I'd attempt to present their case for
them.
Here goes ...
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1. The Power of Optional Exactitude for any
High Glucose (and one normal glucose) Con-
dition - you can iterate the nature of the
condition, exactly, by simply using clarifying
words (long list), and don't worry if the long
words are misleading or not well understood,
that would simply lend itself to the ideas
expressed in point '2' which follows:
Type 1 Diabetes
Juvenile Diabetes
Insulin Dependent Diabetes
Prediabetes
Type 2 Diabetes
Adult Diabetes
Non-insulin dependent Diabetes
Maturity Onset Diabetes of the Young
Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adults
Gestational Diabetes
Neonatal Diabetes
One of the types of MODY Diabetes
Other Diabetes Mellitus
Diabetes Insipidus
2. The Power of Fuzzing Out / Confusing /
Misleading - You can refer to *all* High
Glucose Conditions (and one normal glucose
condition) by using a single word, allowing
you to associate one word with all or any
High Glucose (and/or normal glucose) con-
dition(s), and no one can know the nature
of the condition or conditions you're talking
about for sure (all, all diabetes mellitus but
no diabetes insipidus, most, some, or one,
and which one - good luck on figuring that
out).
Think of it as kind of a code, where the word
can and will mean different things to different
people, and you can use it for any of the con-
ditions you wish, kind of like a work of art, it's
simply a matter of interpretation, isn't vague-
ness grand?
3. The Power of Long-Lived Training / Supporting
the Way Things Are - Into conformity? Into
close-minded thinking? Into the way things
are? Averse to change? Fearful of radical
revolutionary notions? Love to castigate
freethought and open-mindedness as an
evil threat? Love to stick your head in the
sand, resistant to change? Not to worry,
options '1' and '2' give you that power. Stay
with it, ignore all the disadvantages of it,
close your minds, stay with the way things
are no matter what. Feel the power, what
a rush.
4. Due to the way in which for most of the
close to 1,900 years diabetes has been used,
folks had no clue regarding causality or treat-
ments, the word, as presented in the definition
in most common dictionaries, has nothing
whatsoever to do with any of that. What's the
common theme in the dictionaries? Excessive
urination.
Don't you really like having a disease named
for excessive urination? Isn't it a relief, not
having to read about causes or treatments
when looking up the word up in a dictionary,
and which is focused on a symptom that's
not even present when treatments work?
Thank goodness the diabetes word is still
around, and widely used, especially consid-
ering the way all the clarifiers are frequently
left off - see '2'.
5. Built-in Implied Support of Almost Everyone -
Heck, since almost everyone is into '1' and '2'
above, having been trained to think that way
since birth, and since all of the powerful organ-
izations set up to fight one or more of these
conditions has the core word in their club
name, easy for folks to feel the power of '3'.
Easy for folks to resist the cumbersome changes
that would be required if new words fixed the
areas of '1' and '2' that are problematic. Easy
to just go along with the overwhelming majority,
not stick one's neck out, ignore the problems
presented in '1' and '2', and reject the fixes for
the problems.
Heck, it's kind of like rejecting someone saying
"The emperor has no clothes." Sure, the emperor
has no clothes, but why not just go along with
the emperor pretending he's well-dressed? After
all, almost everyone else is, including doctors
and persons who have the conditions, so the
fact that the emperor has no clothes, who cares,
why stick one's neck out, why join the rebel, why
risk change, why fix a problem that almost every-
one else doesn't even admit is a problem (and
even if they do in their heart of hearts, they're
doing a damn good job of pretending they don't).
6. Internet / Media Support for the way things are -
Change is exceedingly difficult in most cases.
Since the old way of talking about the condi-
tion(s) has been around so long (about 1,900
years) almost everything available (in print and
via the internet) uses the old way of talking
about things.
Heck, even the rebel, when he posts internet
articles about the conditions, is hard-pressed
to avoid using the old lingo. It's everywhere,
it's habit, it's unstoppable, it cannot be changed,
not by anyone (well, other than the rebel who
has deluded himself into believing it can be
changed), not by any doctor, not by any leader,
not by any group (especially not by any group
that has diabetes in its name), it's endemic in
the medical field and ubiquitous and perm-
anently deeply embedded in our culture, as
solid as a rock!
Of course, I'd have to admit, even a rock will
erode over time, but heck, why speed up the
process? Resist the rebel, refuse to change,
stick with the way things are, don't think,
just go along, don't act as if you can actually
control or influence the way things are, don't
for one second believe you can actually make
one iota of a difference, just accept it, and
deal with it as if absolutely nothing ever can
or ever should be done about it.
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Out of deference to the rebel, here are links to
the case he has presented. Hah, a guy who has
had Insulinitis for almost 50 years, thinks he
can make a difference. Bah, humbug, no way
he can win this battle, no friggin' way! (-:
Diabetes Bubble / Diabetes Bubble Burst
http://prohuman.net/diabetes_bubble_diabetes_bubble_burst.htm
Table : Nature of the Diabetes Name/Names
Problems and the Solution
http://tinyurl.com/diabetesnamenamesprobssolution
What is Insulinitis?
http://prohuman.net/insulinitis.htm
What is Cellosis?
http://prohuman.net/cellosis.htm
Reasoning for Using Insulinitis and Cellosis
http://tinyurl.com/reasons-insulinitis-cellosis
What is Diminosis?
http://prohuman.net/diminosis.htm
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sw...@tooth.com
things are regarding the diabetes word (and
the multi-word diabetes phrases sometimes
used) have not yet presented their case in a
convincing manner (IMO, with all due respect),
I thought I'd attempt to present their case for
them."
One of the benefits of having friends is for them to tell one when they
are out in left field. You are not only out in left field, you are in
the irrelevant rough part of it.
No one is confusing the types of diabetes in any form that makes a
scientific nor clinical difference in the least. Btw, you still haven't
discovered all the forms as you put in the list. The fact you can list
even some of them is evidence enough that there is no problem. Unless
one includes the psychosocial angst some suffer, or better described as
self inflicted that they might not be identified as having the honored
form of the disorder.
Now cancer, just one term and seemingly scores of different kinds; go
for it.
Pro-Humanist FREELOVER
<sw...@tooth.com> wrote ...
Pro-Humanist FREELOVER wrote a significant article
with the reasoning underlying the case which is
heavily invested in perpetuating the diabetes word(s)
and resisting change. From that post, sweet chose
to respond to the following single introductory sen-
tence, ignoring the multiple points which convey the
essence of the problems sweet has not yet acknow-
ledged or addressed, in message
news:htgsne$lbi$1...@news.eternal-september.org ...
>> "Since my good friends who support the way
>> things are regarding the diabetes word (and
>> the multi-word diabetes phrases sometimes
>> used) have not yet presented their case in a
>> convincing manner (IMO, with all due respect),
>> I thought I'd attempt to present their case for
>> them." [...]
> One of the benefits of having friends is for them to tell one when they
> are out in left field. You are not only out in left field, you are in
> the irrelevant rough part of it.
>
> No one is confusing the types of diabetes in any form that makes a
> scientific nor clinical difference in the least.
Your perceptions are erroneous.
> Btw, you still haven't discovered all the forms as you put in the list.
Oh? Funny thing is, most articles mention
2 forms, some adding a third, and rarely
does anyone mention diabetes insipidus.
The amount of detail I've gone into regard-
ing forms exceeds that presented in almost
all web articles regarding the high glucose
conditions.
Other diabetes mellitus should cover the
conditions/forms you're referring to (refer-
ence the following table, and add to it if
you feel that more forms should be dis-
tinctly addressed apart from the "other
types of diabetes mellitus" area on that
table):
Table : Nature of the Diabetes Name/Names
Problems and the Solution
http://tinyurl.com/diabetesnamenamesprobssolution
Nature of the
Diabetes Name/Names Problem
Current Names Solution
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Diabetes
Type 1 Diabetes Insulinitis
Juvenile Diabetes
Insulin Dependent Diabetes
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Prediabetes PreCellosis
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Diabetes
Type 2 Diabetes Cellosis
Adult Diabetes
Non-insulin dependent Diabetes
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Diabetes
Maturity Onset Diabetes of the Young Diminosis
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Diabetes
Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adults Latent Autoimmune Insulinitis
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Diabetes
Gestational Diabetes Gestational Cellosis
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Diabetes
Other types of Diabetes Mellitus Other High Glucose Conditions
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Diabetes
Diabetes Insipidus Insipidus
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> The fact you can list
> even some of them is evidence enough that there is no problem.
Listing forms does not indicate the absence of
problems, but instead, indicates that optional
words are present to clarify the conditions at
issue, but due to the rood word being used so
frequently, those forms are not used as often
as they should be.
You're simply pretending the problem doesn't
exist, and your denial does not make the prob-
lem go away.
> Unless one includes the psychosocial angst some
> suffer, or better described as self inflicted that they
> might not be identified as having the honored
> form of the disorder.
?
> Now cancer, just one term and seemingly scores of
> different kinds; go for it.
Notwithstanding your attempt to change the subject,
my focus is on new words for the high glucose con-
ditions, to remedy the confusion and misinformation
presented when the diabetes word is used, as is
often the case, without clarifiers. Some recent
examples:
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Mars Opens $40M Dubai Candy Factory As Diabetes Rate Surges
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100526-707799.html
Excerpt: Candy giant Mars Inc.'s Gulf affiliate opened
Wednesday a new $40 million chocolate factory in
Dubai as the region battles one of the world's highest
rates of obesity and diabetes.
[Comment: Typical mislead, as the article title and
contents are referring to Cellosis, not to any form of
Insulinitis or Diminosis or Insipidus (which, by the way,
does not include a high glucose condition) and not to
any other high glucose condition. The entire article,
not one mention of the type of high glucose condition,
simply acting as if all high glucose conditions (and one
normal glucose condition) are what the article is about.
It's not, and it's no wonder that people are confused
about the condition.]
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Moderate Alcohol Intake Lessens Diabetes Risk
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/1870648/moderate_alcohol_intake_lessens_diabetes_risk/
Excerpts:
Adults in good health who consume one to two glasses
of alcohol per day have a smaller chance of developing
Type 2 diabetes than those who abstain from alcohol,
according a 10-year study by Dutch researchers pub-
lished Tuesday.
The study of 35,000 adults between the ages of 20 and
70 showed that those who consumed moderate amounts
of alcohol, while meeting at least three of four conditions
of a healthy lifestyle, had 40 percent less chance of devel-
oping Type 2 diabetes compared with those who abstained
from alcohol entirely.
...
Type-2 diabetes is often caused by obesity, and is the most
common form of the disease that occurs when blood sugar
levels are abnormally high.
"The results of the investigation show that moderate alcohol
consumption can play a part in a healthy lifestyle to help
reduce the risk of developing diabetes type 2,
...
More than 180 million adults worldwide suffer from type-2
diabetes.
...
[Comment: As is often the case, the title of the article refers
to all diabetes conditions, but the actual article, time and time
again, only mentions one form of the disease. Since the article
is about Cellosis, why act as if the article is about all conditions
which are called diabetes, why not title the article "Moderate
Alcohol Intake Lessens Type 2 Diabetes (aka, Cellosis) Risk"?
Insulinits? Unmentioned. Diminosis? Unmentioned. Insipidus?
Unmentioned. Gestational Cellosis? Unmentioned (and good
thing, as women who are pregnant should not drink). Other
forms of high glucose conditions? Unmentioned]
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Report: 235 new medicines in development to treat diabetes
26. May 2010 06:28
http://tinyurl.com/235highglucosemeds-development
Excerpts:
A record 235 new medicines to treat diabetes, one of the fastest-
growing diseases in America, are being developed by America's
pharmaceutical research and biotechnology companies ...
In West Virginia, 11.4% of the adult population suffers from
diabetes—a rate that has more than doubled since 1994. According
to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study of data from
2006-2008, West Virginia has the highest rate of diabetes in the
U.S.
"We released this report in West Virginia because of its alarming
rates of diabetes, which unfortunately reflect a trend prevalent
throughout the nation," ... "Perhaps the most shocking and disturb-
ing trend is the rise of diabetes among children, which the American
Diabetes Association calls 'a new epidemic.'"
Type 2 diabetes, which is closely linked to lifestyles, was once called
"adult onset" diabetes because it was so rare among children. But
as more and more children are increasingly overweight or obese and
inactive, the disease is being seen in even very young children. If
present trends continue, 1 in 3 American children born in 2000 will
develop diabetes in their lifetimes.
"That nation must step up efforts to stop this alarming trend, and
at the same time continue its strong commitment to the cutting-
edge research that allows diabetes patients to manage their disease
and live productive lives," ... "Medical advances made over the past
several decades have revolutionized how we battle diabetes and its
complications. Still, it takes a terrible toll," ...
The report was released at a press conference featuring American TV
icon Jerry Mathers, most famed for his role as "The Beaver." Mathers,
who suffers from diabetes, works to encourage prevention and calls
on those who have the disease to seek proper treatment. Of the
nearly 24 million Americans who have diabetes, an estimated six
million don't know they have it. Another three million know but are
not being treated and thus risk severe complications.
"As a patient who must cope every day with the effects of diabetes,
I understand only too well the value of medicines and lifestyle changes,"
said Mathers, ...
The new medicines currently in the pipeline, some in early develop-
ment stages and some awaiting FDA approval, include numerous drugs
to treat eye diseases associated with diabetes. New medicines to treat
foot ulcers could reduce the need for amputations. Researchers are
pushing into new territories that include gene therapy and are working
on such treatments as a once-weekly medication similar to a natural
hormone critical to blood sugar regulation.
Johnson noted that diabetes not only causes great suffering, but also
extracts a heavy economic cost. In West Virginia alone, diabetes costs
nearly a billion dollars a year in medical treatment and lost productivity.
...
SOURCE Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America.
[Comments: I wonder how many of those 235 medicines apply to
Insulinitis. How about Diminosis? What about the other high glucose
conditions? Is Insipidus treatment one of the conditions referred to
as part of the 235 medicines? The article references diabetes without
clarifiers 16 times. It mentions that the Beaver (Jerry Mathers) has
diabetes, but doesn't bother to clue us in that it's Cellosis, aka type 2
diabetes, that Jerry Mathers has. The only type of diabetes mentioned
in the article, type 2 diabetes, aka Cellosis, is mentioned twice in one
sentence.
Why not refer to specific types, Insulinitis and Diminosis and Cellosis
and clarify the research on each of those conditions, as well as on
Gestational Cellosis (if there is any research which applies in that
area), Neonatal Diminosis, and the other high glucose conditions,
as well as on Insipidus (unless the article is oblivious to the Insipidus
form of the disease, ignoring it, as most articles seem to act as if the
word Diabetes does *not* include any Insipidus condition).
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Additional References:
Diabetes Bubble / Diabetes Bubble Burst
http://prohuman.net/diabetes_bubble_diabetes_bubble_burst.htm
What is Insulinitis?
Nico Kadel-Garcia
Three are multiple words for diabetes for the same reason there are
multiple words for colors. Some are historical, some describe subtle
distinctions in pathology, others are more general and some specific.
Many overlap, some even describe specific mixtures of colors.
This does not mean that inventing a new word, "jumbaga", and trying to
replace all use of the word "green" with it is in any way helpful in
picking out paint, describing your car, or reading a paper on the
optical dyes of the human eye and their color sensitifvity for jumbaga
frequencies. It most especially does not mean it's a good idea to take
a *different* word for a related color, such as "turqoise", and
replacing all instances of "blue" with it. It's merely confusing.
This is *precisely* what you are doing by replacing "Type 2 diabetes"
with "cellosis". No one else uses the word. No one. Please find one
reference, *anywhere*, of someone using those words the way you do. So
attempting to replace all instances of "Type 2 diabetes" or its
cousins "adult onset", "insulin resistance", etc. will not add
clarity, it simply makes your otherwise occasionally interesting
article citations look like those of a kook and casts doubt on the
reliability of your opinions.
Replacing "Type 1 diabetes" with "insulinitis" is worse. Because it is
a misuse of an existing word with diagnostic criteria and clinical
meaning, it can mislead a listener into either misunderstanding what
insulinitis means, or into believing that most cases of Type 1
diabetes are caused by insulinitis. They're not: they're mostly caused
by an immune problem that destroys the insulin producing beta cells,
*without* insulinitis.
Pro-Humanist FREELOVER
"Nico Kadel-Garcia" <nka...@gmail.com> wrote ...
> Oh, dear lord.
>
> Three are multiple words for diabetes for the same reason there are
> multiple words for colors. Some are historical, some describe subtle
> distinctions in pathology, others are more general and some specific.
> Many overlap, some even describe specific mixtures of colors.
>
> This does not mean that inventing a new word, "jumbaga", and trying to
> replace all use of the word "green" with it is in any way helpful in
> picking out paint, describing your car, or reading a paper on the
> optical dyes of the human eye and their color sensitifvity for jumbaga
> frequencies. It most especially does not mean it's a good idea to take
> a *different* word for a related color, such as "turqoise", and
> replacing all instances of "blue" with it. It's merely confusing.
The diabetes word, the diabetes multiple word
phrases, Insulinitis, Cellosis, Diminosis, Gestational
Cellosis, Neonatal Diminosis, High Glucose Conditions,
Latent Autoimmune Insulinitis, and Insipidus, none
of those are paint and none of those are colors.
No paints or colors have any attribute even remotely
related to the miscommunication problems inherent
in the diabetes terminology.
> This is *precisely* what you are doing by replacing "Type 2 diabetes"
> with "cellosis". No one else uses the word. No one. Please find one
> reference, *anywhere*, of someone using those words the way you do. So
> attempting to replace all instances of "Type 2 diabetes" or its
> cousins "adult onset", "insulin resistance", etc. will not add
> clarity, it simply makes your otherwise occasionally interesting
> article citations look like those of a kook and casts doubt on the
> reliability of your opinions.
>
> Replacing "Type 1 diabetes" with "insulinitis" is worse. Because it is
> a misuse of an existing word with diagnostic criteria and clinical
> meaning, it can mislead a listener into either misunderstanding what
> insulinitis means, or into believing that most cases of Type 1
> diabetes are caused by insulinitis. They're not: they're mostly caused
> by an immune problem that destroys the insulin producing beta cells,
> *without* insulinitis.
Nothing new there, other than your effort to act
as if our conditions are related to paints and colors.
You're mistaken, again, in your steadfast adoration
of diabetes terminology, your refusal to address the
inherent miscommunication present in diabetes
terminology, and in your failure (thus far) to sup-
port the new word solutions which fix all the prob-
lems presented by the diabetes terminology.
Insulinitis is caused, in the overwhelming majority
of cases, by the insulin-producing cells being des-
troyed by an autoimmune response which treats
the body's own islet cells as if they were "enemies
of the state / foreign invaders", killing them with
intensity until they're all or almost all done in. That
cause is called insulitis, as described at the following
dictionary definition.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/insulitis
Other causes, removal of all or part of the pancreas
due to surgery, also result in the condition I've cre-
ated the new word Insulinitis to describe.
The itis part of the new word :
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/itis
a suffix used in pathological terms that denote
inflammation of an organ and hence, in extended
senses, nouns denoting abnormal states or condi-
tions, excesses, tendencies, obsessions, etc. (tele-
phonitis; baseballitis).
The itis part of that description that is applicable
in persons with Insulinitis is the part that conveys
... "nouns denoting abnormal states or conditions,
excesses, tendencies, obsessions, etc.", and you
cannot deny that Insulinitis is an abnormal state
or condition nor can you deny that people with
Insulinitis are forced to obsess on insulin, via
multiple daily injections -or- continual use of a
manually controlled insulin pump, as the one
and only way to survive, albeit with high risk of
life-endangering hypoglycemic episodes.
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Your rapture with "type 1 diabetes" terminology
is like a chicken with its head cut off running
around without a clue of why it's doing so.
Diabetes? Excessive urination. Pitiful explanation
from ancient days of ignorance regarding diseases
that entail far more than that and which are in
large measure not about that, but instead about
disparate causes for high glucose condtions (unless
it's Insipidus being referenced, a condition that
doesn't involve high glucose), and a wide range
of treatments which vary from person to person
based on the nature of the condition they have,
and the particular doctor deciding exactly what
treatment methodology to utilize.
Type 1? No intuitive explanation of that term what-
soever, only imparting relevance to folks who under-
stand what "type 1" means, and since the phrase is
left off in a large percentage of the communication
about the condition, and since the diabetes core
word is oft-times all that's used to describe condi-
tions which aren't Insulinitis as well as conditions
which are Insulinitis, massive miscommunication
transpires daily regarding Insulinitis, Cellosis, Dimin-
osis, Gestational Cellosis, Neonatal Diminosis, Latent
Autoimmune Insulinitis, and other high glucose con-
ditions, as well as regarding Insipidus.
No, the solution is NOT to perpetuate or encourage
the problem being ignored, the solution is not to
ignore the problem by living in denial of it, the solu-
tion is NOT to defend the excessive urination theme,
the solution is NOT to attack the solution, but instead,
to join the solution, to end the excessive urination
obsession, to face up to the incessent communication
problems and to address them directly, with the new
words fully described and well-supported in the fol-
lowing references.
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References:
Diabetes Bubble / Diabetes Bubble Burst
http://prohuman.net/diabetes_bubble_diabetes_bubble_burst.htm
Table : Nature of the Diabetes Name/Names
Problems and the Solution
http://tinyurl.com/diabetesnamenamesprobssolution
Reasons for Using Diabetes Word(s)
http://tinyurl.com/usingdiabetesword-words