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GraceC27

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Aug 16, 2008, 10:01:58 PM8/16/08
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Sometimes there are days when it just doesn't seem worth it anymore. How
can a person seemingly be blessed with so much and still feel so bad?
Wonder if physical pain can diminish the mental anguish.
no one will understand - maybe it can't be understood cause it's not real.

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Doug Laidlaw

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Aug 17, 2008, 9:02:21 AM8/17/08
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GraceC27 wrote:

Grace, I understand because I have been through it too. Not as badly, but I
know what you mean. Although your anguish is so personal, so individual,
you are not alone in this.

Depression makes you feel separated from your support people, and from
anybody who cares about you. But we do care. We see you as a unique
individual of infinite worth, no matter how bad you feel today.

Doug.

Ricki

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Aug 18, 2008, 9:27:56 PM8/18/08
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Eh...Grace. Speaking from personal experience, don't go there with
the physical pain. I've got many, many scars and it didn't help life,
depression, mood, or anything. It's addictive and horribly
descructive.

I'm preaching to myself on this, too.

I do understand. All too well.

*hugs*
Ricki
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Will J

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Sep 16, 2008, 6:18:55 AM9/16/08
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On Aug 16, 9:01 pm, "GraceC27" <graceby...@aol.com> wrote:
> Sometimes there are days when it just doesn't seem worth it anymore.  How
> can a person seemingly be blessed with so much and still feel so bad?
> Wonder if physical pain can diminish the mental anguish.
> no one will understand - maybe it can't be understood cause it's not real.
>

I know your pain is real. I know physical pain will only add to your
problems. If you really need to feel something try running or walking
until you can't anymore. It once helped me.

Feel Better

Morphing

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Oct 12, 2008, 11:02:44 AM10/12/08
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>Sometimes there are days when it just doesn't >seem worth it anymore.
How
>can a person seemingly be blessed with so much >and still feel so bad?

I think that it might be due to what you see you have, and think "I don't
deserve this as I'm not appreciating it enough"

Or it also could be thinking "I don't deserve this as I'm (Insert
derogatory thought here)" and thus you hate yourself for what you have.

>Wonder if physical pain can diminish the mental >anguish. no one will
understand - maybe it >can't be understood cause it's not real.

Real or not, it's what you are experiencing. The drawback to physical pain
to dissolve the emotional is a slope no one should take as the emotional
will increase to the point you go too far with physical and then it's
possible to go too far and end it all...

Better take previous posters advice is just doing some workout till you're
exhausted. Not bad as you can recover from such..Although you don't want to
put your body at risk for repercussions.

Doug Laidlaw

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Oct 27, 2008, 9:54:37 AM10/27/08
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Morphing wrote:

Plainly I haven't been keeping up. My own downturn.

The OP has hit on the mystery of depression, the mystery of everything evil.
The cause is chemical. The only real argument is whether the chemical
change is the chicken or the egg. And the truth seems to be, that it is
all a cycle, with no start or end. Thinking affects the chemicals, and the
chemicals affect your thinking. What is basically a physical condition
acquires a moral dimension. An article about propaganda-type, brainwashing
interrogators said that they make the subject believe that everything is
his fault. It is too much moral blame for him to carry. Depression is a
bit like that. Positive thinking and rational argument can't fight the
chemicals while they are in control.

My depression is cyclic. I know that it will pass. I know that it will
come back too, but I don't concentrate on that. I feel for those who get
no relief, and in 65 years, I haven't found a helpful answer to them.

One chap suggested that we run tests for which chemical is out of kilter,
and recommend an appropriate medication. There are two things wrong with
that:

(a) medical testing is not that far advanced, even if only one
neurotransmitter is really involved; and
(b) no medication ever, was that specific in its action. The other effects
it has, we call side-effects.

Exercise is always recommended. The relief may be only symptomatic and
temporary, but at least it is something. Don't be like many, just sitting
waiting for the right med to come along. I try to see my depression as a
disability, but more of a limiting than a disabling factor. The community
has got behind the disabled, and helped them use what they have left. I
approach my depression the same way. 3 days a month, I am useless. The
rest of the time, I can achieve something, at least. Take it slowly, and
find out where your limits are.

Getting out in the sun helps me, but actually going out there has to be a
conscious decision, or I put my head back under the bedcovers.

Doug.
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Success is getting what you want. Happiness is liking what you get.
- Anonymous

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