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ChrisC

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Oct 22, 2009, 10:47:16 AM10/22/09
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So I went to see my Doctor this morning about getting some Champix. He
denied me Champix, saying my condition with regards to mental health
it would not suit.

What can I do I said. At this stage he asked me how I was mentally. I
said fine, never felt better to be honest and that is an honest
statement. Since being back in the UK I have actually never felt
better. Mirtazapine is really working I said. Although I do have a
problem with weight gain on it. Swings and roundabouts said he. Yes I
admitted I can put up with the weight gain.

I know, the Doctor says. I'll prescribe some Zyban (Bupropion), it
will help with stopping smoking and it has the side effect of making
you lose weight. Plus it's a very effective anti-depressant which will
also conteract the sleepiness of Mirtazapine. Sounds like snake oil I
said. Well give it ago, he said. It can only make you feel even better
and you might just be able to give up smoking.

One word of warning though, it does cause seizures, so if you get any
funny effects. Stop totally.

Has anyone had any experience of Zyban (Bupropion), I was going to
take it in South Africa, however, it was really expensive.

- darkman® -

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Oct 24, 2009, 3:59:56 PM10/24/09
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On Oct 22, 10:46 am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> So I went to see my Doctor this morning about getting some Champix. He
> denied me Champix, saying my condition with regards to mental health
> it would not suit.
>
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>
The might spell it different where you live but in the US they market
it as "Chantix" http://www.chantix.com/

> One word of warning though, it does cause seizures, so if you get any
> funny effects. Stop totally.


DOES CAUSE SEISURES? Sounds a bit peculiar doncha think? I am certain
that you were just trying to be a good guy and post wehat you thought
was a reasonable warming..ummm warning label. For god;s sake man, a
good fart can cause a seizure, just ask your wife next time you two
play "Dutch Oven".... Rolling eyes....

More soberly, read every patient monograph for every drug that you
have ever ingested. Somewhere between "appetite and death" you will
find seizures. You can never be too careful though. <laffin> Hell if
we were careful would we ever eat something before we saw the pdoc
take one?

Chantix a; albeit expensive, great quit smoking drug. Here is a 30US$
off coupon for you to give to your silly pduk.

http://www.internetdrugcoupons.com/


>
> Has anyone had any experience of Zyban (Bupropion), I was going to take it in South Africa, however, it was really expensive.

Yes, it is expensive and it does not work half as well. Do some
comparative research and see for yourself. Here is my last coupon.
Spend it wisely. http://tinyurl.com/ygx26uy

and do aq little pdoc comparisons while you're awake. Look for the
carpal tunnel version psychopharmachologist version. They're up on the
drugs and will prescribe.

Cya....

Psychiatric lemonOlade 2 pints a 1£
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Linda

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Oct 26, 2009, 8:53:47 AM10/26/09
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On Oct 26, 3:56 am, invalid <invalid.invalid@invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:47:16 -0700 (PDT), ChrisC
> There are ways to minimize the risk of the seizures,unless they happen
> when you first start taking it of course,which is the most common time
> for having them.
>
> Wellbutrin Seizures
>
> http://depression.emedtv.com/wellbutrin/wellbutrin-seizures.html
>
> Wellbutrin is known to cause seizures. About four out of every 1,000
> people taking Wellbutrin doses of up to 450 mg per day develop
> seizures.

What about the rate per thousand in people munching down doses of
Wellbutrin above 450mg?

More importantly, what is the rate per thousand people taking
wellbutrin who develop seizure activity, partial seizures, TLE,
since those are types of psychotropic drug induced seizures which
induce psychotropic drug users to massacre those sharing territory
with them?

o

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Linda

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Oct 26, 2009, 11:10:35 AM10/26/09
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On Oct 26, 6:27 am, invalid <invalid.invalid@invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:53:47 -0700 (PDT), Linda
> I am not sure studies have been done on the frequency of seizures in
> overdosing wellbutrin

Misdirection?

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Bupropion_-_History/id/620865
Bupropion - History

Bupropion was first synthesized by Burroughs Research in 1966, and
patented by Burroughs-Wellcome (later Glaxo-Wellcome, and, as of 2000,
GlaxoSmithKline) in 1974. It was approved by the FDA in 1985 and
marketed under the name Wellbutrin as an antidepressant, but clinical
trials indicated that incidence of seizure was two to four times
greater than other antidepressants and the drug was quickly pulled
from the market. It was subsequently discovered that reducing the dose
by about half greatly reduced the risk of seizures.


> >More importantly,  what is the rate per thousand people taking
> >wellbutrin who develop seizure activity, partial seizures,
>

> 4 per 1000 as just stated.

Not true.

In practice, it's next to impossible to record drug induced seizure
activity and/or partial seizures which incite behavioral changes which
mimic mania because that seizure activitiy and/or partial seizures
take place deep within the Temporal Lobe.


>
> >TLE,
> >since those are types of psychotropic drug induced seizures which
> >induce psychotropic drug users to massacre those sharing territory
> >with them?
>

> I think you are begging the question somewhat.
>
> Just when and where do you suspect these psychotropic drug induced
> massacres occur?

Which week, month, year or decade are you inquiring about?.

SSRI Stories
http://www.ssristories.com/index.php?sort=date

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Larry Hoover

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Oct 26, 2009, 6:56:59 PM10/26/09
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"invalid" <invalid.invalid@invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:10:35 -0700 (PDT), Linda

> In fact Columbine seems to be the only massacre in your list and the
> causes are far more complex than simply taking Luvox.

The two young men in question had been prescribed antidepressant drugs, but
autopsies showed that neither had been taking them. One could argue that the
drugs might have saved lives, if only they had been munched (sic).

Lar


Linda

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Oct 26, 2009, 7:01:53 PM10/26/09
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On Oct 26, 11:47 am, invalid <invalid.invalid@invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:10:35 -0700 (PDT), Linda
> **>It was subsequently discovered that reducing the dose **
> **>by about half greatly reduced the risk of seizures. **
>
> I think you just demonstrated my point.
>

I think publicly documenting your lies demonstrates you are a liar.


>
> >> >More importantly,  what is the rate per thousand people taking
> >> >wellbutrin who develop seizure activity, partial seizures,
>
> >> 4 per 1000 as just stated.
>
> >Not true.
>
> >In practice,  it's next to impossible to record drug induced seizure
> >activity and/or partial seizures which incite behavioral changes which
> >mimic mania because that seizure activitiy and/or partial seizures
> >take place deep within the Temporal Lobe.
>

> It doesn't matter where or how it takes place, the adverse reactions
> statistics are what they are.

Documenting your lies demonstrates you are a liar, nothing more,
nothing less.


> >> >TLE,
> >> >since those are types of psychotropic drug induced seizures which
> >> >induce psychotropic drug users to massacre those sharing territory
> >> >with them?
>

> >> Just when and where do you suspect these psychotropic drug induced
> >> massacres occur?
>
> >Which week, month, year or decade are you inquiring about?.
>
>
> >SSRI Stories
> >http://www.ssristories.com/index.php?sort=date
>

> This long list of random murders by folk who happened to be taking
> SSRIs provides no evidence whatsoever for " psychotropic drug induced


> seizures which induce psychotropic drug users to massacre those

> sharing territory with them".


>
> In fact Columbine seems to be the only massacre in your list and the
> causes are far more complex than simply taking Luvox.
>

> For example, the easy access to weapons of angst ridden, bullied
> teenagers might have something to do with it don't you think?

No.


>
> While Chris may potentially suffer seizures from his Wellbutrin he is
> unlikely to start massacring his neighbors.

Anyone who assumes Simon, oops, I mean "Chris" hasn't been
massacring his neighbors and/or neighbor's kids for decades is
assuming facts not in evidence.

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Larry Hoover

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Oct 27, 2009, 2:48:43 PM10/27/09
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"invalid" <invalid.invalid@invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:56:59 -0400, "Larry Hoover"
> <larry...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> After Harris complained of depression, anger, and suicidal thoughts at
> a meeting with his psychiatrist, he was prescribed the anti-depressant
> Zoloft. He complained about restlessness and a lack of concentration
> to his doctor, and in April was switched to a similar drug, Luvox.[13]
> At the time of his death, Harris had therapeutic Luvox levels in his
> system. Some analysts, such as psychiatrist Peter Breggin, have argued
> that one or both of these medications may have contributed to Harris's
> actions.

Yes, I'm aware of Breggin's claims, but I have seen equally strong
presentations denying the presence of psychotropic medication in either
young man's system. At best, the evidence is equivocal, and thus unreliable
for either side. Until I see the autopsy report......

Also, I fully agree that there is significant evidence for "malice
aforethought", i.e. planned evil acts that fly in the face of the alleged
impulsive violence that this same biased poster has previously claimed is
associated with antidepressants. You can't have it both ways.

Lar


Anonymous

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Oct 27, 2009, 5:35:07 PM10/27/09
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Larry Hoover wrote:
> ... I have seen equally strong presentations denying the
> presence of psychotropic medication in either young man's
> system.

right.
they had prescriptions filled, then didn't take their meds.

> At best, the evidence is equivocal, and thus unreliable
> for either side.

if they took the meds, the stuff was in their systems.
at best, the A/D didn't relieve their symptoms. at worst,
the A/D pushed them into a manic or psychotic state.

> Until I see the autopsy report......

you never will. they were juveniles.

> Also, I fully agree that there is significant evidence
> for "malice aforethought", i.e. planned evil acts that

> fly in the face of the alleged impulsive violence...


> You can't have it both ways.

people in manic or psychotic states plan evil acts all the
time. some even carry them out. whether they're culpable
depends on the "insanity defense" and its variations
involving "capacity," ie., were they able to distinguish
between right and wrong?

Linda

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Oct 28, 2009, 3:46:01 AM10/28/09
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On Oct 26, 10:31 pm, invalid <invalid.invalid@invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:01:53 -0700 (PDT), Linda
> You think it untrue that halving the dosage reduces seizure risk?

I think failure to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth
makes you a liar.

You failed to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth when you
reported the seizure rate of Wellbutrin at 4 per 1000 at doses less
than 450 mg while neglecting to report the seizure rate of Wellbutrin
at doses which are greater than 450 mg, and/or in the aggregate..

You failed to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth when you
replied to my challenging your reporting a half-truth by falsely
depicting prescribed doses greater than 450 mg as "overdoses" that had
not been studied.

You failed to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth when you
falsely claiming the facts I furnished proving you are a liar had
proved your point, when your point is to minimize the dangers of
Wellbutrin by publishing factoids which are, at best, half-truths.


> >> >> >More importantly,  what is the rate per thousand people taking
> >> >> >wellbutrin who develop seizure activity, partial seizures,
>
> >> >> 4 per 1000 as just stated.
>
> >> >Not true.
>

> Well that's what the facts tell us.

Reporting the crap which Wellbutrin's makers and/or their FDA
collaborators want the public to believe tells the public what
Wellbutrin's maker and it's FDA collaborators want the public to
believe.

>
> Do you have some reason to believe them liars?

Do you have some reason for choosing to believe that individuals who
willingly subordinate the truth to membership in a "profession"
possess or retain the capacity to tell the truth, the whole truth,
and, nothing but the truth, anytime thereafter?


> After all they were the scientists who reviewed the data for the GSK
> package insert weren't they?

Puh-lese!

Myself and nearly every other living American was compelled, by law,
to spend the early decades of our lives rubbing elbows with the
sociopaths and psychopaths which America's Compulsory Education System
was/is rigged to reward.

My own and many other Americans tolerance of the AMA's, AHA's, ABA's,
AAUP's, NEA's, PBA's, APA's and all the other criminal cartels the
aforementioned sociopaths and psychopaths formed to bribe elected US
officials to enact laws which permitted the aforementioned sociopaths
and psychopaths to be citizens of a Capitalist nation where they could
purchase other Americans goods and services at the value those goods
and services commanded on the free market, whilst they themselves
were exempted from antitrust laws which would have forced them to make
do on the peanuts their shoddy goods and services fetch in a free
market ENDED the day those sociopaths and psychopaths bankrupted
American.

Your dropping the names of "feds" aka curs aka cads aka blackguards
aka heels aka mongrels aka dirtbags aka dregs aka scum aka parasites
aka sociopaths aka psychopaths who suck at the public tit under the
false pretext of serving, protecting, securing, defending,
educating, safeguarding, researching, monitoring, profiling, and/
or counting Americans doesn't substantiate a damn thing.


> >> >In practice,  it's next to impossible to record drug induced seizure
> >> >activity and/or partial seizures which incite behavioral changes which
> >> >mimic mania because that seizure activitiy and/or partial seizures
> >> >take place deep within the Temporal Lobe.
>
> >> It doesn't matter where or how it takes place, the adverse reactions
> >> statistics are what they are.
>
> >Documenting your lies demonstrates you are a liar,  nothing more,
> >nothing less.
>

> Huh?
>
> Do you imagine that I produce the adverse reaction figures or
> something?

You didn't tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
truth when you produced the number you produced to stop discussion
about the concern another author published about seizures from
Wellbutrin.

Because I don't give damn about any of the cyberpaths who cybersquat
in ALTERNATIVE health forums like ALT.SDM maim, debilitate or off
themselves on the pharmaceuticals they munch down like candy, I only
challenged you for producing a number which, at best, represents a
half-truth for a highly select group of Wellbutrin users.

If I gave a damn about any of the cyberpaths who cybersquat in
ALTERNATIVE health forums like ALT.SDM, then, I would have
challenged your having produced a number that probably hasn't any
relevance whatsoever to an individual augmenting one or two
psychotropic drugs with Wellbutrin.

But, I don't give a rat's arse about Chris or any of the other
cyberpaths who cybersquat in ALTERNATIVE health forums like ALT.SDM,
rather then subscribing to usenet forums chartered for them like
soc.support.depression.treatment.

Hence, I'm indifferent to your having encouraged an individual who
has reported depersonalization, and the switching off of their
anxiety and conscience as a wierd improvement occaisioned by their
newest regimen of drugs to augment with a seizure inducing
pharmaceutical even though they self-reported the drugs they've been
taking have dispossessed them of the angst and conscience they need to
inhibit a seizure induced impulse to grab an axe and bludgeon those
sharing territory with them to death.


>
> >> >> >TLE,
> >> >> >since those are types of psychotropic drug induced seizures which
> >> >> >induce psychotropic drug users to massacre those sharing territory
> >> >> >with them?
>
> >> >> Just when and where do you suspect these psychotropic drug induced
> >> >> massacres occur?
>
> >> >Which week, month, year or decade are you inquiring about?.
>
> >> >SSRI Stories
> >> >http://www.ssristories.com/index.php?sort=date
>
> >> This long list of random murders by folk who happened to be taking
> >> SSRIs provides no evidence whatsoever for " psychotropic drug induced
> >> seizures which induce psychotropic drug users to massacre those
> >> sharing territory with them".
>
> >> In fact Columbine seems to be the only massacre in your list and the
> >> causes are far more complex than simply taking Luvox.
>
> >> For example, the easy access to weapons of angst ridden, bullied
> >> teenagers might have something to do with it don't you think?
>
> >No.
>

> No?
>
> You seriously think they could have massacred their fellow students
> without guns or motivation?

Just because the "Feds" enacted laws which compel Americans to spend
the greater part of their youth rubbing elbows with the sociopaths and
psychopaths which the American Compulsory Education System was/is
rigged to reward doesn't mean America's youth perceive the sociopaths
and psychopaths they are compelled by law to rub elbows as their
"fellow students".

>
> School shootings are a complex,multifaceted phenomena rooted in
> American sociology and cannot be subject to a simplistic,mechanistic
> biological determinism.

Neither can any of the other thoughts, feelings and behaviors of
Americans, but, that fact doesn't stop Kevin Thompson, Larry Hoover,
Irene Mazis, Chris C., Bent Attorney et al from cybersquatting their
sociopathic arses in usenet's alternative health forums like ALT.SDM
and replaying Eli Lilly's, GSK's, Pfizer's, Knolls, Abbotts,
Novartis et al info-mercials AS IF they were.

Nor can concerns which Wellbutrin users express about Wellbutrin's
seizure inducing properties be dismissed by some a-hole publishing the
number of seizures Wellbutrin induces per thousand in a very select
group of wellbutrin users which probably doesn't even include the
individual expressing the concern.

>
> "Pop a pill and slaughter your classmates" isn't how it works Linda.

Pop a pill and you'll feel better isn't how it works either, but,
that fact hasn't resulted in psychotropic drugs being Banned in the
US.


>
> Don't you think all soldiers would have such a homicidal wonder drug
> in their back packs if it was?

Don't you think it's rather silly of you to pretend that the curs,
oops, I mean, the "feds" haven't been making damn sure psychoactive
drugs are made available to every American soldier since researchers
in WWII uncovered the fact that 85-95% of US soldiers chose to allow
themselves be killed rather then kill "enemy" soldiers?


>
> Hell, they don't get much treatment when they are traumatized and
> suicidal ,let alone homicidal.

You say that as if I don't know that Obama promoted Stanley
McChrystal, America's numero uno "Master of the Mind Fuck" a/k/a Cold
Blooded Assassin, to command the 60,000 US soldiers and 100,000
Coalition forces tasked with taking possession and/or annihilating
Afganistan's poppy/opium fields.

>
> >> While Chris may potentially suffer seizures from his Wellbutrin he is
> >> unlikely to start massacring his neighbors.
>
> >Anyone who assumes Simon, oops,  I mean "Chris"  hasn't been
> >massacring his neighbors and/or neighbor's kids for decades is
> >assuming facts not in evidence.
>

> Another grotesque claim that it's up to you to provide evidence for.

LOL!

Your assumption that cyberpaths cybersquatting their sociopathic arses
in usenet's alternative health forums are something other then serial
murderers or serial murderers in the larval stage isn't something I'm
obligated to refute because I don't share your assumption about the
cyberpaths cybersquatting their sociopathic arses in ALT.SDM.


>
> As you made a snide half-hearted attempt to out him,or at least
> frighten him into stopping posting for fear of being outed, it verges
> on gross libel.

It's your opinion, that I made a half-hearted attempt to out the
cyberpath whose concerns you were belittling, to frighten the
cyberpath into stop posting out of fear of being outed, verges on
gross libel.

Your opinion is based upon your assuming that A) Chris and Simon are,
in fact, one and the same author, and, B) Simon is Chris's actual
surname rather than just another pseudonym utlized by a Brit who moved
to Africa to ride out the expiration of the statute of limitation on
any and all heinous crimes "Simon" perpetrated.

Unless of course, you possess factual evidence that my suspicions are
right on, in which case, your proffering evidence confirming my
that my suspicions wrt Chris are right on makes YOU the bloke who
outed Chris, in circumstances which, in your personal opinion,
verge on gross libel.


>
> Be that as it may;
>
> Let me try to explain it in terms you might understand.
>
> If the guy wants to take a 250-1 chance of suffering a seizure to win
> an existence as a non-smoker and smokers stand an 8-1 chance of early
> death by lung cancer, it's a good bet isn't it?
>
> Particularly if it has the side benefits of improving his mental state
> too.

If you know I know how to handicap, then you know why I'm challenging
you for laying "odds" which are based upon a number which is, at
best, a half-truth, AND, which you also failed to adjust for the
impact which the drugs the cyberpath is already on have on the
cyberpaths "odds" of seizing.


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noauth

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From: Linda <indomi...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.medication
Subject: Re: Stopping Smoking and an Anti Depressant.
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:30:57 -0700 (PDT)
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> It's my deeply held conviction that many psychotropic drug users are
> extraordinarily wicked individuals whose use of psychotropic drugs is
> the consequence of their having copped to a mental illness to avert
> being held accountable for the heinous crimes they perpetrated against
> those they share territory with.

> It's my deeply held conviction that psychotropic drug users who
> weren't inherently wicked prior to psychotropic drug use, are
> rendered wicked by their continuous psychotropic drug use.

> I'm publishing my opinions in an alternative forum chartered for
> individuals who possess an alternative POV to express their opinions.

> I do so without any regard whatsover for the wicked individuals whose
> depraved indifference to the human rights of myself and others who
> possess an alternative point of view prompt them to subscribe to
> alternative forums to pump themselves up at the expense of the alties
> whom alternative support forums are chartered for.

> However, unlike you, I'm open and honest about my indifference to
> the wicked individuals whose depraved indifference prompted them to
> subscribe to alternative forum to pump themselves up at the expense of
> the alties whom alternative forums are chartered for.

> WTF do you think you are doing placing one of these wicked individuals
> whom "you" believe is suicidal at the center of a discussion you are
> engaging in with an "altie" to pump yourself up at the expense of the
> altie, and, the wicked and/or suicidal person whom you are placing at
> the center of this public discussion?

noauth

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From: Linda <indomi...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Stopping Smoking and an Anti Depressant.
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> It's my deeply held conviction that many psychotropic
> drug users are extraordinarily wicked individuals ...

> It's my deeply held conviction that psychotropic drug
> users who weren't inherently wicked prior to psychotropic
> drug use, are rendered wicked by their continuous

> psychotropic drug use...

> I'm publishing my opinions in an alternative forum
> chartered for individuals who possess an alternative

> POV to express their opinions...

> I do so without any regard whatsoever for the wicked

> individuals whose depraved indifference to the human
> rights of myself and others who possess an alternative
> point of view prompt them to subscribe to alternative
> forums to pump themselves up at the expense of the
> alties whom alternative support forums are chartered for.

> However, unlike you, I'm open and honest about my
> indifference to the wicked individuals whose depraved
> indifference prompted them to subscribe to alternative
> forum to pump themselves up at the expense of the
> alties whom alternative forums are chartered for.

> WTF do you think you are doing placing one of these wicked

> individuals whom *you* believe is suicidal at the center

> of a discussion you are engaging in with an "altie" to
> pump yourself up at the expense of the altie, and, the
> wicked and/or suicidal person whom you are placing at
> the center of this public discussion?


YOU ARE A DELUDED WITCH.

GET HELP!

noauth

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Linda

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On Oct 29, 3:41 am, noauth <a...@remailer.gabrix.ath.cx> wrote:
> From: Linda <indomitab...@gmail.com>

Meanwhile, back in reality, it's you're inability to pump yourself
up via psychotropic drugs, psychotherapy, or, the social support
groups chartered for people of your ilk to pump yourselves/each other
up which drives you to subscribe to alternative forums and pump
yourself up at the expense of the "alties" whom you unleash your
aggression and wickedness upon.

If such wasn't the case, then usenet's social support groups like
soc.support.depression.treatment wouldn't have lain barren all these
years that you and others of your ilk have been subscribing to
alternative discussion forums like ALT.SMD to pump your wicked arses
up at the expense of the "alties" whom you unleash your aggression and
wickedness upon. .

I've never had any expectation that society at large would come around
to seeing things my way, no matter how many random massacres-suicides
were occaisioned by the widespread pumping of Americans with
psychotropic drugs, until the consequences of the widespread drugging
of Americans were felt by each and every American.

Given how many americans lost their savings, homes, possessions,
jobs, IOW, "everything", the pivotal role which psychoactive
street and prescription drugs played in the criminal activities
engaged in by Wall Street Financiers has engendered a situation where
the consequences of the widespread drugging of americans is being felt
by each and every American alike.

Thus, I predict the Ban the SSRI/SNRI Movement will gain a lot of
momentum as Main Street's outrage continuously rises about the very
real hardships Main Streeters must endure since losing their savings,
homes, possessions, businesses, jobs, aka "everything", because,
Wall Street Financiers took SNRI's/SSRI's to silence their consciences
wrt the financial crimes they were perpetrating.

Whereupon my work will done, and those of you whom are unable to pump
yourselves up via psychoactive drugs, therapy, or, the social
support groups established for you to pump yourselves and each other
up, will have to identify some other group of innocent people to
unleash all your aggression and wickedness upon in order to pump your
wicked arses up.

Ta Ta


Anonymous

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Oct 29, 2009, 6:20:37 AM10/29/09
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From: Linda <indomi...@gmail.com>

> alties...


> whom alternative support forums are chartered for.

> However, unlike you, I'm open and honest about my
> indifference to the wicked individuals whose depraved
> indifference prompted them to subscribe to alternative
> forum to pump themselves up at the expense of the
> alties whom alternative forums are chartered for.

> WTF do you think you are doing placing one of these wicked
> individuals whom *you* believe is suicidal at the center
> of a discussion you are engaging in with an "altie" to
> pump yourself up at the expense of the altie, and, the
> wicked and/or suicidal person whom you are placing at
> the center of this public discussion?


YOU ARE A DELUDED WITCH.

GET HELP!


Linda

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On Oct 29, 3:20 am, Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:
> From: Linda <indomitab...@gmail.com>

Meanwhile, back in reality, it's you're inability to pump yourself

(President Obama promoted the man who had been in charge of the "dark
side" (Torturers/Assassins/Self-Proclaimed Masters of the Mind Fuck)
to run the whole show in Afghanistan.

I can think of two plausible reasons for Obama having done so.

A) President Obama decided the best way to neutralize the threat which
"black ops" posed to him personally was to promote the man in charge
of "Black Ops" to a publicly visible position which reports directly
to Obama, United States Commander in Chief.

B) The type of war President Obama intends the war against
Afghanistani's is on the "darkside", thus, the promotion of the
commander of America's Torturers/Assassins and self-proclaimed
"Masters of the Mind Fuck" to run the whole show in Afganistan.

If the latter is true, it will create a lot of job opportunities for
yourself and all the other wicked Americans/Canadians/Brits/Aussies
whose inability to pump yourselves up via achievement, psychotropic
drugs, therapy, social support groups, drives you to subscribe to
alternative forums to pump yourselves up at the expense of all the
innocent alties you unleash or your aggression and wickedness upon.

The wicked wouldn't even have to enlist in the military to get one of
these jobs.

The "dark side" employs outside consultants and private contractors to
do all it's super dooper dirty work.

Being a wicked psychologist, or, a wicked linguist, or, being a
wicked person who has had a position where they gained experience
interviewing people is all one needs to get a job which will get a
wicked person into the inner sanctum of the "dark side".

Once you get yourself in the door of the "darkside" you are free to
unleash all the aggression and wickedness you can unleash upon
targeted individuals, just so long as you do not draw blood a/k/a
"no blood, no foul"

Of course, the "no blood, no foul" rule probably doesn't apply where
"ghost" detainees are concerned, so there's probably some
opportunities for the most bloodthirsty amongst you, too.

Wicked psychologists can apply for such jobs at a consulting firm
which I believe is called Mitchell and Jenssen.

Wicked linguists/interpreters, and, any and all the wicked who
possess interviewing experience can apply for such jobs at the company
which bought up CACI and Titan's Level3 Communications.

So, you wicked, wicked people shouldn't worry too much about the
inevitability of a BAN on SSRI et al putting you out of work wrt us
"alties", as it appears that it's highly likely that America's wicked
can probably all get themselves jobs beating the emotional, if not
physical crap out of Afghanistan's poppy farmers.)

<SARCASM>

noauth

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Oct 29, 2009, 7:39:04 PM10/29/09
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From: Linda <indomi...@gmail.com>

Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.medication
Subject: Re: Stopping Smoking and an Anti Depressant.
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:39:18 -0700 (PDT)
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> Meanwhile, back in reality,it's you're inability to pump
> yourself up...

sweetheart, you haven't been reality-based in a very
long time. as for pumping oneself up, look no further
than the space between your ears. it's been deflated
since about as long as you've been outside reality.

maybe you've got a leak somewhere.

how 'bout you close your mouth and hold your nose
while you puff up your cheeks.

if you detect a hissing sound, you'll know you got problems.

> I predict the Ban the SSRI/SNRI Movement will gain a lot
> of momentum as Main Street's outrage continuously rises

> about the very real hardships Main Streeters must endure...

forget making predictions.
if you were any good, you'd have opened a palm-reading
storefront and made money at it.

focus instead on re-inflating that space between your ears.
trust me, you won't get far without it.

Anonymous

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Oct 29, 2009, 7:44:45 PM10/29/09
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Linda

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Oct 29, 2009, 10:20:56 PM10/29/09
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On Oct 29, 4:39 pm, noauth <a...@remailer.gabrix.ath.cx> wrote:
> From: Linda <indomitab...@gmail.com>

Meanwhile, back in reality, it's you're inability to pump yourself
up via achievement, psychotropic drugs, psychotherapy, or, the


social support groups chartered for people of your ilk to pump
yourselves/each other up which drives you to subscribe to alternative
forums and pump yourself up at the expense of the "alties" whom you
unleash your aggression and wickedness upon.

If such wasn't the case, then usenet's social support groups like
soc.support.depression.treatment wouldn't have lain barren all these
years that you and others of your ilk have been subscribing to
alternative discussion forums like ALT.SMD to pump your wicked arses
up at the expense of the "alties" whom you unleash your aggression and
wickedness upon
.

Thus, you and the others of your ilk have provided the world
irrefutable evidence that you are wicked people who are incapable of
pumping yourselves up via achievement, psychotropic drugs, therapy,
or the social supports groups chartered for you, only and always via
whatever adrenalin rush you derive from unleashing your aggression and
wickedness on innocent others.

Ta Ta

noauth

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Oct 30, 2009, 3:15:15 AM10/30/09
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From: Linda <indomi...@gmail.com>

Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.medication
Subject: Re: Stopping Smoking and an Anti Depressant.
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:20:56 -0700 (PDT)
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> Meanwhile, back in reality, it's you're inability to pump
> yourself up... <snip the nonsense>

> If such wasn't the case, then usenet's social support
> groups like soc.support.depression.treatment wouldn't

> have lain barren.... <snip the nonsense>

> Thus, you and the others... <snip the nonsense>

> Ta Ta

toodle do to you too, Linda baby, but repeating the same
nonsense is a sure sign you have a leak somewhere upstairs
which results in a deflated space between your ears.

seek qualified medical help to get that sealed.

you're not the brightest bulb on the circuit, but
once your brain gets re-inflated, you'll feel like
you've got a new lease on life.

Anonymous

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