Wellbutrin & anger?
Bill Wilson
great, I had quite a sense of well being and a positve outlook on
things. It also seems to help with depression. After 5 days or so,
it settled down and I wasn't quite as "euphoric". My main concern
is how it affects my level of anger. I read in another forum that several
people had to stop taking it due to excessive anger. During this past
month, two seperate incindents made me extremely angry, to the point
it concerned several people that know my behavoir well. Not only was
the anger more intense, but it lasted much longer-it took two to three days
to get back to a state where I wasn't in a rage.
Wellbutrin has provided several benefits over the previous medication I was
taking, and I would like to continue it, if the anger thing gets resolved.
Has anyone experienced this, or have any suggestions?
Bent Attorney Esq.
Yeah, but on Effexor. My anger just happens to be stronger than when
I wasn't on effexor. Control it, if your anti depressant works for
you. I do. And remember: If you aren't angry, you aren't paying
attention.
By this I mean, that I know how the system works, I've been in it for
decades, I've seen how lawyers work, I've seen it too many times. I
see people in the psyche system doing dick and getting enormous sums
of money for doing dick. etc. Ditto with lawyers and judges. They
play with people's lives all the time, every day. They don't give a
shit. As long as their prime rib is rare, and the yorkshire pudding
is nice and fluffy. It's mostly a racket. Not all of it, but the
system is set up so that the pricks rake it in at the expense of the
taxpayer. The main reason for government is to establish a tax base
as big as possible.
Hawaiian Wayne
wrote:
Aloha Bill and Everyone!
I've been a member here for a while, however, I rarely have posted and
mainly just read the posts. The reason I don't post a whole lot is
because I don't have anything constructive to say. I figure there are
plenty of others willing and ready to go the editorial route. <grin>
Anyway,
Yes Bill, I just finished giving Welbutrin a shot and one of the
things that stood out with not only me, but my wife even mentioned
this; my level of anger went "off the scale" for someone with my
personality.
I had been on Celexa for at least 5 years, if not more, and noticed my
depression increasing. I really didn't want to increase the dosage yet
again, mainly due to one of the side effects that, for me at least, is
almost catastrophic; lack of libido or no sexual desire whatsoever.
Talking to my shrink, she suggested Welbutrin. I remember back in
2002, when I was recovering from a spine fusion surgery, my surgeon
included Welbutrin in the mix of meds he prescribed. It was only for a
month as at that time I wasn't taking any anti-d. Apparently it can
help keep ones pain levels down if used along with some other meds.
Since a fusion is a pretty radical surgery, I could understand why he
did that. At that time, due to the surgery and all that goes with
recovering from it, I hadn't noticed a change in any mental or
emotional part in me.
this time, however, was a different story!
I did alright during the titrating down with the Celexa and titrating
up on the Welbutrin. When I finished weaning off the Celexa and about
the 2nd day of only Welbutrin use, I not only noticed that "things"
that I didn't really care about or even notice suddenly became a huge
issue with me and when that happened, my anger appeared and in some
cases, which even surprised me, got to the point of RAGE. Now, THAT is
totally uncharacteristic of me in every way, shape and form.
fortunately, it was SO out of line for me that it literally shocked me
out of the rage and eventually, the anger also. Also, as it turned
out, Welbutrin made me feel like a part of my brain had been 'closed
off'. Like when a nurse draws that infamous curtain around your bed in
the hospital...you just know that can't be a good thing! LOL!
When I talked to my shrink about it, she managed to convince me to try
taking nothing for a while and see how I did to get a better picture
of whether I even really needed to continue taking an antidepressant.
Hey, fine with me! Any reduction in medication with me is worth a
shot. As long as I don't go and do something stupid or it makes me
feel completely unlike myself or sick in some way.
It has been almost two weeks and other than having a bit of nausea for
the first 10 days, all seems to be going well. I don't seem to have as
much get-up-and-go for some reason. Don't know if that could be
related or not.
anyone know?
I hope this helps. I finally got to contribute something to someone!
YES!
Aloha Just For Now,
Hawaiian Wayne
Nom dePlume
If "taking nothing" works, that would be great! I hope it does work for you.
If not, then the interesting points, to me, are that
1) Celexa either didn't halt your worsening depression, or may have
contributed to it
2) Wellbutrin improved your mood, but made you prone to explosive rage.
Possible approaches that occur to me, to discuss with your psychiatrist,
include
1) Take a smaller dose of Wellbutrin
2) Wait four weeks to see if the rage issue goes away (i.e., it may be a
transient effect from starting the new medication)
3) Add Celexa or other SSRI to Wellbutrin
4) Add a mood stabilizer to Wellbutrin
I hope this helps.
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Find my book, Medicines for Mental health, and free drug information, at
www.MentalMeds.org
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Doug Laidlaw
> Wayne,
>
> If "taking nothing" works, that would be great! I hope it does work for
> you.
>
> If not, then the interesting points, to me, are that
>
> 1) Celexa either didn't halt your worsening depression, or may have
> contributed to it
>
> 2) Wellbutrin improved your mood, but made you prone to explosive rage.
>
> Possible approaches that occur to me, to discuss with your psychiatrist,
> include
>
> 1) Take a smaller dose of Wellbutrin
>
> 2) Wait four weeks to see if the rage issue goes away (i.e., it may be a
> transient effect from starting the new medication)
>
> 3) Add Celexa or other SSRI to Wellbutrin
>
> 4) Add a mood stabilizer to Wellbutrin
>
> I hope this helps.
>
Here in Oz, wellbutrin is not available. That must indicate something.
See a doctor.
Doug.
Linda
All anti-depressants are stimulants.
Amphetimine like psychosis, replete with rage, is quite common in
users of Wellbutrin and all the other stimulants being marketed as if
they were antidepressants.
It's also fairly common for users of Wellbutrin and all the other
stimulants marketed as if they were antidepressants to commit murder
while involutarily intoxicated on Wellbutrin and/or other stimulants
marketed as if they were antidepressants.
Antidepressant Nightmares
http://ssristories.com/index.php?sort=drug
SSRI Horror Stories
http://psychrights.org/horrors.htm#SSRI
However, you will go to prison if you do commit murder while in the
throes of the amphetimine like psychosis triggered by Wellbutrin and/
or the other stimulants marketed as if they were antidepressants,
because, the civil service pensions of America's Prosectors and
Gangsters in Black Robes are heavily invested in the Petro-chemical
inddustry....ergo, America's Prosectors and Gangsters in Black Robes
have been criminally conspiring with Drug makers to preclude those
involuntarily intoxicated by Wellbutrin and other stimulant to use
involuntarily intoxication as a defense.
Pfizer and GlaxoSmithKline Help Send Kids To Prison
May 29, 2006. By Evelyn Pringle
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/00206/pfizer_gsk.html