American women, children, seniors, and member of Other Hit-listed Groups Call For Senate Judiciary Investigation of Murder Inc. Beck, Seligman, Loftus, Packer, Probert, Riddick, Peter J. Ross, Vince R. Lamb, Micheal Phoenix, Deborah Bentley,
Linda
Hit-listed Targeted Individuals call for Senate Judiciary Committee
investigation
December 7, 12:54 PMHuman Rights ExaminerDeborah Dupre'
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> http://www.examiner.com/x-10438-Human-Rights-Examiner~y2009m12d7-Hitl...
>
> Hit-listed Targeted Individuals call for Senate Judiciary Committee
> investigation
> December 7, 12:54 PMHuman Rights ExaminerDeborah Dupre'
Well stated, and ALL proven!!
Linda
A) My initial e-acquaintance, Andrew Chmilewsky, informed me in the
summer of 2000 that Andrew was amongst the agent provocateurs/cyber-
instigators whom the FBI had trained to aid and abet the FBI's
Criminal Conspiracy to "Put Suckers in Jail"
B) George Chmilewsky phoned me in 2001 and corroborated Andrew's
assertion that Andrew had been among those whom the FBI had trained to
aid and abet the FBI's Criminal Conspircy to "Put Suckers in Jail",
but, Andrew ceased participating when 4 Russians were massacred in
house a couple of doors down from his brother George's home.
C) Pablo, whom "certain parties" deployed to contribute to Andrew's
incarceration, debilitation and Murder By Proxy, also corroborated
Andrew's assertion when Pablo let it be known that one of the reasons
Pablo had been deployed to contribute to Andrew's incarceration,
debilitation, and Murder By Proxy was to exact retribution against
Andrew for advising others to tape record any and all conversations
they had with FBI agents who sought to recruit them to participate in
the FBI's "Put a Sucker in Jail Program."
D) When I showed 1000 articles Andrew authored about me and mine in
the summer of 2002 to Local Law Enforcement Agents employed by a Major
Metropolitan Police Force, they confirmed that the articles published
by Andrew, a school teacher, had been published by someone who
received training by law enforcement agents on account of their
violating the law in such an insidious manner that myself and other
crime victims wouldn't be able to obtain a conviction under laws which
existed in 2000-2002.
E) In 2005, Gerald Koocher, then-President of the American
Psychological, stated that rogue US Psychologists CRIMINALLY CONSPIRE
with rogue US Law Enforcement Agents to contribute to the
incarceration, debilitation and Murder BY Proxy of innocent
Americans, when Koocher used the fact that rogue US Psychologists
already Criminally Conspire with rogue US Law Enforcement Agents to
Murder innocent Americans as the basis of his arguement favoring
exporting the murder and mayhem rogue US Psychologists engage in
against innocent Americans to Abu Ghraib, Bagram, Guatanamo, and
approximately 600 other CIA Gulags and Black Sites around the globe.
E) Hal Turner's criminal defense attorney corroborated the FACT that
the psychopaths with the sociopathic smirk who pick Americans pocked
under the false pretext of "Serving and Protecting" Americans from the
criminal element, have, in reality, combined forces with America's
criminal element to put us, the suckers, supporting the parasitic
existence of both America's Law Enforcement Agents and America's
Criminals, in Jail, in not 6 feet under.
As a result it's is a matter of public documented record, that the
psychopaths sucking at the American Public Tit under the false pretext
of serving and protecting us, the "suckers" footing the bill for
their parasitic existence, have, combined forces with the criminals
they're SUPPOSED to protect us from, to put us, the suckers, in
Jail, if not six feet under.
Thus,
On the one hand, it's a matter of public documented record that
rogue US Law Enforcemen Agents and rogue US Psychologists have
combined forces with America's criminal element to Criminally Conspire
to incarcerate, debilitate, and Murder us, the suckers footing the
bill for the parasitic existence of both the crimina element and those
whom we employ to police them.
On the other hand, Probert has been eschewing groups located in
Usenet's Soc, Sci, and other Big 8 heirarchies chartered explicitly
for himself and other members of special interest groups, in favor
of, cybersquatting his psychopathic arse in altnernative forums in
order to preempt and preclude ordinary Americans from engaging in
public discussion about public issues of public concern, BY,
recruiting a never ending stream of sordid individuals to Conspire in
the Blackmail, Terrorism and/or Murder of ordinary Americans.
The mere fact that neither Probert nor any of his hundreds and
hundreds and hundreds of criminal co-conspirators have ever been
arrested, prosecuted, imprisoned and/or executed for their misusing
public forums to perpetrate crimes en masse against ordinary Americans
constitutes irrefutable evidence that Probert's criminal co-
conspirators include Holder, and Secretary of the Department of
Justive for the past 18 years.
Blackmail, Terrorism, and Murder by Proxy are serious crimes in and
of themselves.
Conspiring to Blackmail, Terrorize, and Murder via Proxies makes
Probert and his criminal co-conspirators violators of RICO, even if
the Austrailian hadn't published articles soliciting money in exchange
for Criminally conspiring to Blackmail, terrorize and effect the
Murder by Proxy of Jan.
Since 2002/2003, Probert and his Criminal Co-Conspirators
Blackmail, Terroristic Threats, and/or Murder by Proxies have also
been in violation of the Patriot Act.
Furthermore, since Jan, myself and most of the other targets are
ordinary American citizens, and America is at War with two different
countries, and, Probert has been recruiting citizens of Isreal,
Germany, Austrailia, China, England, Canada, to Conspire with him
in his criminal conspiracy to Murder Jan and other Americans by
Proxies, it's highly likely Probert is Guilty of Treason, which
carries a death sentence.
Lastly, there has never been anything ordinary about the endless
stream of criminals recruited to blackmail, terrorize and effect the
murder by proxy of ordinary americans like Jan, you, myself and
others, because, the selection of individuals recruited isn't
merely a function of the criminal co-conspirators desire to create
fears in ordinary Americans where none previously existed, but,
also a function of the criminal co-conspirators desire to create
prejudices in ordinary Americans where none previously existed.
Siccing a never ending stream of hatefilled Satanists (Jewish,
Protestant, or otherwise) on me who flood the groups I subscribe to
with an endless stream of anti-catholic tripe merely because my world
view may have been molded because I was brought up a Catholic is
violative of the Hate Crimes Act, effective January 2010.
Siccing an endless stream of sadistic heterophobes on me solely
because I'm a heterosexual who flood the ngs I subscribe to with
hatefilled and sadistic articles dissing me because of my heterosexual
sexual orientation is a violation of The Hate Crimes Act effective
January 2010.
It goes without saying, that the recruitment of an endless stream of
psychopaths who flood ASMD, ASAD, MHA, and other alternative
discussion forums with hatefilled screed about the Religion of
Scientology, despite the fact that these forums haven't anything to do
with the Religion of Scientology, also constitutes a Hate Crime as of
January 2010.
As of January 2010, the FBI, US DOJ, DOD, JSOF, Office of
Homeland Security, and every other agency folded up into and/or
conspiring with the US Department of Disruption (yes, there really is
a US Department of Disruption), are in violation of the Hate Crimes
Act if they don't recall any and all the psychopaths whom they
selected to participate in their conspiracy to jail ordinary
Amerians, based upon the personal attributes of the ordinary
americans whose incarceration, debilitation, and death they seek to
contribute to.
Of course, it goes without saying, that Jan or any of the other
perennial targets who have been suckered into reacting poorly to the
hatefilled anti-christian, anti-catholic, anti-muslim, anti-
reformed jew, anti-scientologist articles published by Probert and/or
his criminal co-conspirators BETTER stop reacting poorly to them,
since they were recruited TO create prejudices and/or the appearance
of predjudices in targets where no such predjudices exists, in order
to nail the target for violating the Hate Crimes Act.
The advent of the Hate Crimes Act makes it imperative that each and
every ordinary American who desire to engage in public discussion of
issues of public concern best forget about all the crap which divides
ordinary human beings, and, perceive the world as being inhabited
by A) ordinary human beings, and, B) human-like parasitic
psychopaths sucking at our tit, irregardless of which side of the
street these psychopaths are sucking at our tit from.
The mere fact that neither Probert nor his hundreds and hundreds and
hundreds of criminal co-conspirators have never been arrested for
Blackmail, Terrorism, Murder by Proxy, Conspiracy, RICO,
Treason, Terrorism prohibited by the Patriot Act, and/or Hate
Crimes, as of this month, is ALL the evidence I need to know that
Erik Holder and every other Secretary/AG in the US Department of
Justice is and has been criminally co-conspiring with Mark S. Probert
and his ilk to put ordinary Americans in jail, and/or 6 feet
underground, for the last 14 or 18 years.
Mark Probert
Taking an adult ed course in fiction writing?
Next time I speak with Eric, I'll share a copy of this with him. He
has a great sense of humor. ;)
Mark Probert
Wrong, Linda, I belong to the non-profit Murder.org.
We do it for the fun of it. ;)
ed_turk
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> My initial e-acquaintance, Andrew Chmilewsky, informed me in the
> summer of 2000 that Andrew was amongst the agent provocateurs/cyber-
z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z
z z z z
> As a result it's a matter of public documented record, that the
> psychopaths sucking at the American Public Tit <snip>
are you now, or were you ever in the past, a recipient of public assistance?
if so, then you sucked on the Public Tit.
> As of January 2010, the FBI, US DOJ, DOD, JSOF, Office of
> Homeland Security, and every other agency folded up into <snip>
the cited law enforcement agencies have neither the time nor the inclination
to be looking at anything you're doing or have done. They're too busy
and you're just not that important.
> ... is ALL the evidence I need to know that Erik Holder and every other
> Secretary/AG in the US Department of Justice is and has been criminally
> co-conspiring with Mark S. Probert and his ilk to put ordinary Americans
> in jail,
> and/or 6 feet underground, for the last 14 or 18 years.
get help.
Peter B
"Linda" <indomi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Justice is and has been criminally to putting ordinary Americans in
jail, and/or 6 feet
underground, for the last 14 or 18 years.
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Then I want my tax dollars back. They have not been doing their jobs.
You all are still here, still posting gossip, hate filled lies,
anti-Semitic crap lo these many years.
Can't anyone in government do their jobs right!?!
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
Incredible research!! This is an open and shut case!!
Peter B
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in
message
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Sure is, as in Nut Case.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
> messagenews:24c965f1-30af-4f5f...@35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
I simply MUST demand that you offer Linda an apology. Her work is
exemplary, her research is beyond reproach and her material is written
at a graduate school level.
Secondly, she is highly respected by her peers. Not to mention all
her work is peer-reviewed and only gets outstanding reviews.
Please retract that statement you made, we are trying to keep these
newsgroups civil.
Sir Arthur
Peter B
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And you would know this how? Hmm?
Secondly, she is highly respected by her peers. Not to mention all
her work is peer-reviewed and only gets outstanding reviews.
===================================================
No doubt. Every kook comes to her aid and backs her up, which
re-enforces her descisions to post more hateful and racist statements.
Yes, her peers Jerry Kolnick and all his socks give her outstanding
reviews. Has to do with that birds of a feather flock together sort of
thing.
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Please retract that statement you made, we are trying to keep these
newsgroups civil.
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This is an MHA NG, not some civil group. Oh, that's right, you and her
spammed the uncivil crap all over the place. I am surprised that you
back her up so, since she despises Jews and blames them for most
everything.
Sir Arthur
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
For SOME reason, that does NOT look like a retraction OR an apology.
That is flat-out wrong. But considering your hallucinations. perhaps
it is easy to understand. The old saying is true in regards to you
and your kind: you can't argue with a sick mind.
3 cheers for Linda, hip-hip HOORAY//hip-hip HOORAY//hip-hip HOORAY
Peter B
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <garyma...@gmail.com> wrote
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True, you must get your mind healed first, then come back in six months
and try again.
Linda
My case against the psychopaths deployed to Blackmail, Terrorize and
effect my Murder via proxies was an open and shut case a decade ago.
However, I'm still not sure of the identity or identites of the
psychopaths who deployed other psychopaths to Blackmail, Terrorize
and effect my murder via proxies.
Nor, do I know the identity or identities of the psychopaths who have
afforded the psychopath's endless stream of "proxies" all the time
they need to effect my murder.
The ringleaders of the sinister plots I'm the crime victim of
incessantly morph their names/identities.
The US government contractors who take part in the sinister plots I'm
a crime victim of incessantly morph their company names, by, legally
changing their company name ala Blackwater = EQ, or, by "selling"
themselves to a subsidiary, sister, or parent company, which they
are folded into, with a brand new name ala Titan and CACI did.
All the US's Joint Task Forces whose Specialty is hatching sinister
plots against innocent people, American or otherwise, also
incessantly morph their names by changing it, or, by being folded
into a subsidiary, sister, or parent agency, and taking on their
name.
On top of all that, each new US President has a sidekick to take the
political heat for the sinister plots which the President can't afford
to take the political heat for, so the USG department or agency
which all these sinister "Special Forces" are part of, incessantly
morph depending upon which agency or department which the President's
alter ego is appointed as head of.
Our newest President's alter ego, Sunstein, was appointed to a civil
servant position created by the Paperwork Reduction Act within the the
US Office of Management and Budget, titled "Director of Information
and Regulatory Affairs"
The duties of the civil servant occupying the position of "Director of
Information and Regulatory Affairs" include ensuring the accuracy and
veracity of the information which the US Executive and Legislative
branches of government base it's wars, laws, and treaties on.
Thus, it was Sunstein's duty as US Director of Information and
Regulatory Affairs to ensure the accuracy and veracity of the CRU"s
Climate report which the Cap, Tax and Trade Law, Carbon Tax Law,
and, the Copenhagen Treaty were all based upon.
A duty which ought to have been a cinch since furnishing the raw
data, computer codes, all work product, along with the completed
research is a legal condition for receiving research money from the
USG, thus, the Climate Research Unit In Britain was required by the
terms of the research grant to provide the US it's raw data, computer
codes, work product, along with it's completed report for the
$7,000,000,000 We the People forked over to CRU for their climate
research.
Besides which, the CRU is located in Britain, CRU is required to
abide by Britain's FOIA, which makes it a crime for researchers to
destory raw data, computer codes, work product after a FOIA request
was filed for the raw data, computer codes, work product of
published research.
But, the CRU never furnished the US or anyone else it's raw data,
computer codes, work product related to their Climate Report, as
they dumped, destroyed and/or conveniently lost it all.
Thus, Sunstein, as Director of Information and Regulatory Affairs
didn't do what We The People are paying Sustein to do, ensure the
accuracy and veracity of the information contained in the Climate
Report which the Cap, Tax and Trade, Carbon Tax, and Copenhagen
Accords are all based upon.
Not even when the world learned the CRU's climate report contains
dubious if not fraudulent data when Whistleblower(s) published 1,000
emails sent and received by CRU's key scientists revealing the CRU's
key scientists conspired for years to withhold their raw data,
computer codes, work product, as well as, suppress the publication
of articles which contradicted their climate theories.
No sirree bob!
Sunstein doesn't give a rat's arse about the fact that the dubious if
not fraudulent information contained in the CRU's climate report is
the basis for Carbon Tax, Cap N Trade, and the Copenhagen Accord
which will cost We The People hundreds of trillions of dollars.
What has got Sunstein's panties all in a twist wrt Climategate is the
fact that WE THE PEOPLE being robbed of that $7,000,000,000 which We
The People forked over to pay for CRU's dubious, if not fraudulent
"research", reinforces Americans belief that America's Founding
Fathers belief that government is inherently bad is "right on",
because, Climategate is going to make it more difficult for the Obama
administration to shove their skewed, self-serving, non-factual,
and subversive belief that "government is good" down the throats of
the citizens of a country which is founded upon the belief that
government is inherently bad.
Even though it IS Sunstein's belief that "Government is good" which is
SUBVERSIVE belief in a nation founded upon the belief that government
is inherently bad, Sunstein has proposed Defaming all United
Citizens who embrace the belief their nation is founded upon, that
government is inherently bad, as Extremists.
Under current US Defamation Laws, it makes no difference what
Defamatory terms the Bush I, Clinton, Bush II or Obama
Administration or the Feds use to DEFAME US Citizens who embrace the
belief that government is inherently bad which the United States of
America is founded upon; their Defaming any American as a Kook or a
Tea Bagger or a Conspiracy Nutbag or an Extremist confers privileges
upon those Defamed under US Defamation Law, which include, but
aren't limited to, mitigating the damages by outing all their
Defamers as the curs, dregs, dirty rotten scoundrels, and
psychopathic pieces of crap all their defamers are.
Because current US Defamation Laws ensures nobody wins when it comes
to the Defamation Game, Sunstein has proposed the US Defamation Laws
be gutted so Sunstein and all the other curs, dregs, and
psychopathic pieces of crap employed by the "Fed" may denigrate,
disparage, and DEFAME We the People with impunity, whilst WE THE
PEOPLE are prohibited from mitigating the damages we sustain as a
result of their defaming us by outing our defamers as the curs,
dregs, anti-american, and subversive psychopathic pieces of crap
which they all are.
Sunstein has also proposed the enactment of laws which levy draconian
criminal punishments on any and all US citizens who engage in
discourse about the sinister plots incessantly being hatched by the
psychopathic pieces of crap a/k/a Feds to violate the US Constitution
and US Law, without anyone becoming aware of the Feds involvement,
wherein Sunstein deems their discourse "False Conspiracy Theorizing",
such as, Climategate, inspite of the fact that the "Conspiracy
Theory" about CRU's key scientists being up to no good ceased being a
"theory" the nanosecond the whistleblowers published 1000 of their
emails which constitute incontrovertible evidence that the CRU's key
scientists had conspired to further a sinister agenda.
Amongst Sunstein's many other spine-chilling proposals is Sunstein's
proposal that the "U.S. Government employ teams of covert agents and
pseudo-"independent" advocates to "cognitively infiltrate" online
groups and websites -- as well as other activist groups -- which
advocate views that Sunstein deems "false conspiracy theories" about
the Government. This would be designed to increase citizens' faith in
government officials and undermine the credibility of
conspiracists......
Sunstein advocates that the Government's stealth infiltration should
be accomplished by sending covert agents into "chat rooms, online
social networks, or even real-space groups." He also proposes that
the Government make secret payments to so-called "independent"
credible voices to bolster the Government's messaging (on the ground
that those who don't believe government sources will be more inclined
to listen to those who appear independent while secretly acting on
behalf of the Government). This program would target those
advocating false "conspiracy theories," which they define to mean: "an
attempt to explain an event or practice by reference to the
machinations of powerful people, who have also managed to conceal
their role.......
Friday, January 15, 2010 by Salon.com
Obama Confidant's Spine-Chilling Proposal
by Glenn Greenwald
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/15-13
Most of Sunstein's proposal is blatantly illegal.
See article re: the pentagon's law-breaking pundits as follows:
http://www.prwatch.org/node/7261
Sunstein's proposal also makes my case against the USG an open and
shut case.
Here's why...
Sunstein's proposing the Obama Administration engage in the exact same
sinister and CRIMINAL activities which I've been saying the Bush I,
Clinton, and, Bush II regimes engaged in, in order to, globally
discredit people like me as "false conspiracy theorists" for saying
that a long succession of US regimes have engaged in the sinister and
invariably CRIMINAL activities against We The People, which Sunstein
now proposes the Obama administration engage in, too.
In so doing, Sunstein is making my case against the USG an open and
shut case.
Peter B
My case against the psychopaths deployed to Blackmail, Terrorize and
effect my Murder via proxies was an open and shut case a decade ago.
However, I'm still not sure of the identity or identites of the
psychopaths who deployed other psychopaths to Blackmail, Terrorize
and effect my murder via proxies.
Nor, do I know the identity or identities of the psychopaths who have
afforded the psychopath's endless stream of "proxies" all the time
they need to effect my murder.
The ringleaders of the sinister plots I'm the crime victim of
incessantly morph their names/identities.
The US government contractors who take part in the sinister plots I'm
a crime victim of incessantly morph their company names, by, legally
changing their company name ala Blackwater = EQ, or, by "selling"
themselves to a subsidiary, sister, or parent company, which they
are folded into, with a brand new name ala Titan and CACI did.
======================================================
All very interesting, but my take on executions is that they are carried
out forthwith unless you have an exceptional hiding place. You don't,
yet you are still alive.
Why? Or do you just like making up extraordinary short stories?
Escape_the_Cult_Now
>
> Hit-listed Targeted Individuals call for Senate Judiciary Committee
> investigation
> December 7, 12:54 PMHuman Rights ExaminerDeborah Dupre'
CCHR/scientology use the mentally ill as their prey, takes their money, and
you
never see them again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCGP-0545EU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01rAh6nbbS0
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
Crime Cult of scientology Exploiting the Mentally Ill for Fun and Profit --
Just think of Linda.
Escape_the_Cult_Now
"Escape_the_Cult_Now" <kill...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Linda" <indomi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:94759bb3-559b-496a...@u8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Hit-listed Targeted Individuals call for Senate Judiciary Committee
>> investigation
>> December 7, 12:54 PMHuman Rights ExaminerDeborah Dupre'
Linda
ed_turk
<snip>
Sunstein advocates that the Government's stealth infiltration should
be accomplished by sending covert agents into "chat rooms, online
social networks, or even real-space groups."
you're deluded.
ed_turk
<snip>
> Sunstein's proposing the Obama Administration engage in the exact same
> sinister and CRIMINAL activities which I've been saying the Bush I,
> Clinton, and, Bush II regimes engaged in, in order to, globally
> discredit people like me...
no one in the government cares about discrediting anything you say or do.
first, you're not that important.
second, you've amply discredited yourself through your own postings on
usenet.
Linda
> "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3b4b34e1-883d-4746...@h9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> <snip>
>
> Sunstein advocates that the Government's stealth infiltration should
> be accomplished by sending covert agents into "chat rooms, online
> social networks, or even real-space groups."
>
When one snips a quotation mid-stream, the laws of the land require
the snipster to properly attribute the author of the quotation they
snipped mid-stream.
Glenn Greenwald authored the quotation you failed to properly
attribute to him in an article which Glenn Greenwald published on
January 15, 2010 titled "Obama Confidant's Spine Chilling Proposal".
Deadrat
e08c01...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
Yeah, let's quote that article:
<quote>
There's no evidence that the Obama administration has actually implemented
a program exactly of the type advocated by Sunstein, ....
</quote>
Of course, there's plenty of evidence that the WPE's administration did.
ed_turk
> When one snips a quotation mid-stream, the laws of the land require
> the snipster to properly attribute the author <snip>
> Glenn Greenwald authored the quotation <snip>
the allegation is so patently false on its face that attributing
it to an author would serve no useful purpose.
Linda
> "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Since the Digital Millennium Copyright Act is the law of the land,
properly attributing the intellectual property of Glenn Greenwald to
Glenn Greenwald serves the purpose of maintaining the illusion that
you're among the psychopathic pieces of crap who operate within the
laws of the land.
Peter B
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As does the Illuminati.
Peter B
"Peter B" <orig...@frag.com> wrote in message
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Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I have to disagree with that. I have read everything that Linda has
posted and have found absolutely zero facts that have been proven
wrong. In fact, her text is written at a graduate school level and
her conclusions are well referenced and exhaustingly referenced. She
is a champion of the most defenseless people in our society and in my
book that makes her a patriot and a hero. If there was a medal for
usenet postings, she would receive the highest possible award
available. My only complaint is she doesn’t post often enough, which
makes her work even more important!
ed_turk
if you truly respected compliance with the law of the land, then you
would have had no problem recognizing the generally accepted definition
of "cybersquatting" from the United States federal law Anticybersquatting
Consumer Protection Act.
again, you've discredited yourself and your 'cause.'
keep up the good work.
Linda
> "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f1235cc6-0ce1-481c...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 19, 2:54 pm, "ed_turk" <edmund_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > the allegation is so patently false on its face that attributing
> > > it to an author would serve no useful purpose.
> > Since the Digital Millennium Copyright Act is the law of the land,
> > properly attributing the intellectual property of Glenn Greenwald to
> > Glenn Greenwald serves the purpose of maintaining the illusion that
> > you're among the psychopathic pieces of crap who operate within the
> > laws of the land.
>
The Digital Millennium Copyright Act requires you to properly
attribute the intellectual property of Glenn Greenwald to Glenn
Greenwald.
There are no "if's", "and's", or, "but's" about it.
KnightMayor
> On Jan 19, 2:54�pm, "ed_turk" <edmund_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:cb556959-eec6-417b...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > When one snips a quotation mid-stream, the laws of the land require
> > > the snipster to properly attribute the author <snip>
> > > Glenn Greenwald authored the quotation <snip>
> >
> > the allegation is so patently false on its face that attributing
> > it to an author would serve no useful purpose.
>
> Since the Digital Millennium Copyright Act is the law of the land,
This isn't a "land", but Usenet. The DMCA doesn't apply worldwide and
it doesn't apply in this case - quoting - anyway.
[...]
ed_turk
> The Digital Millennium Copyright Act requires you to properly
> attribute the intellectual property of Glenn Greenwald to Glenn
> Greenwald.
no it doesn't.
the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) pertains to the circumvention
of technological measures used by copyright owners to protect their
works and to tampering with copyright management information.
copying a work may be a fair use under appropriate circumstances.
(see section 107, title 17, U.S. Code)
your own original posts of 1/17/10 and 1/18/10 in this thread are duly
noted. they show that, although you cited the author and his article,
you failed to use quotation marks to distinguish the author's text from
your own comments.
it's also interesting to note that you don't cite any section of the DMCA.
that's because, as usual, you're big on bluster and tiny on proof.
Linda
> Linda <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 19, 2:54 pm, "ed_turk" <edmund_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:cb556959-eec6-417b...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > When one snips a quotation mid-stream, the laws of the land require
> > > > the snipster to properly attribute the author <snip>
> > > > Glenn Greenwald authored the quotation <snip>
>
> > > the allegation is so patently false on its face that attributing
> > > it to an author would serve no useful purpose.
>
> > Since the Digital Millennium Copyright Act is the law of the land,
>
> This isn't a "land", but Usenet.
One of the many items members of hit-listed groups wants the US Senate
Judiciary Committee to Investigate is
the conspiracy amongst sociopaths to float/hype this big fat lie that
their subscription to a newsgroup entitles them
to engage in disassociation and disavow their obligation to abide by
the laws of the sovereign state and nation their physical being is
firmly grounded in.
>The DMCA doesn't apply worldwide
I don't know whether that's true or false, so I'll receive it as
something which may be true, or, false, albeit, irrelevant since
the DMCA does apply in the jurisdiction in question.
>and it doesn't apply in this case - quoting - anyway.
Substituting a false for true construction of the turk's malicious and
willful misattribution of the intellectual property of one party to
defame a second party, doesn't render the DMCA inapplicable.
Peter B
==============================================
I have to disagree with that, she has already won numerous awards, this
is what her graduate school level English, referenced and exhaustive
diatribes have brought her.
BTW, all voted on my Usenet readers.
04/05 Linda Gore
Every month special recognition is given to someone whose Kookery is
judged to have surpassed all others. This is the Kook of the Month award
(KotM), voted (somewhat informally) by the denizens of
3.Busted Urinal Award
[[Linda Gore]]
4.Unabomber Surprise
[[Linda Gore]]
5.Order of the Holey Sockpuppet
[[Linda Gore]]
6.Index of kooks
[[Linda Gore]]
7.Kook Chess Set of alt.usenet.kooks
Blue King's Rook's Pawn: [[Linda Gore]]
Congratulations LINDA GORE!!!
No doubt Kolnick /fArti0 had many more?
ed_turk
> One of the many items members of hit-listed groups wants the
> US Senate Judiciary Committee to Investigate is the conspiracy
> amongst sociopaths to float/hype this big fat lie that their subscription
> to a newsgroup entitles them to engage in disassociation and disavow
> their obligation to abide by the laws of the sovereign state and nation
> their physical being is firmly grounded in.
won't happen.
first, the Senate Judiciary Committee has a much more important agenda.
second, there is no conspiracy.
third, those you label as sociopaths are not such.
before you launch into another tirade of name-calling,
be sure your own behavior doesn't qualify you for inclusion.
nothing's worse than a person who acts in contradiction to
her own stated beliefs.
> > The DMCA doesn't apply worldwide
> I don't know whether that's true or false, so I'll receive it as
> something which may be true, or, false, albeit, irrelevant since
> the DMCA does apply in the jurisdiction in question.
not knowing whether a given body of law applies doesn't
make it irrelevant. it makes you ignorant.
> > and it doesn't apply in this case - quoting - anyway.
> Substituting a false for true construction of the turk's malicious and
> willful misattribution of the intellectual property of one party to
> defame a second party, doesn't render the DMCA inapplicable.
the DMCA pertains to the circumvention of technological measures
used by copyright owners. nothing in the fact pattern you allege
here makes the DMCA applicable.
furthermore, the truth is a defense to defamation.
ed_turk
> The Digital Millennium Copyright Act requires you to properly
> attribute the intellectual property of Glenn Greenwald to Glenn
> Greenwald.
your own publications of 1/17/10 and 1/18/10 in this thread show
that you failed to use quotation marks to distinguish the author's text
from your own comments.
practice what you preach.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
> messagenews:1f41c752-3f5e-480b...@l19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 19, 2:54 pm, "ed_turk" <edmund_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:cb556959-eec6-417b...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > When one snips a quotation mid-stream, the laws of the land require
> > > the snipster to properly attribute the author <snip>
> > > Glenn Greenwald authored the quotation <snip>
>
> > the allegation is so patently false on its face that attributing
> > it to an author would serve no useful purpose.
>
> I have to disagree with that. I have read everything that Linda has
> posted and have found absolutely zero facts that have been proven
> wrong. In fact, her text is written at a graduate school level and
> her conclusions are well referenced and exhaustingly referenced. She
> is a champion of the most defenseless people in our society and in my
> book that makes her a patriot and a hero. If there was a medal for
> usenet postings, she would receive the highest possible award
> available. My only complaint is she doesn't post often enough, which
> makes her work even more important!
> ==============================================
> I have to disagree with that, she has already won numerous awards, this
> is what her graduate school level English, referenced and exhaustive
> diatribes have brought her.
Again, you are demonstrably wrong.
Peter B
===============================================
Really? Yet you show no proof that she didn't win this awards for just
cause.
What awards were those?
Oh yeah, it was these....04/05 Linda Gore
Every month special recognition is given to someone whose Kookery is
judged to have surpassed all others. This is the Kook of the Month award
(KotM), voted (somewhat informally) by the denizens of
3.Busted Urinal Award
[Linda Gore]
4.Unabomber Surprise
[Linda Gore]
5.Order of the Holey Sockpuppet
[Linda Gore]
6.Index of kooks
[Linda Gore]
7.Kook Chess Set of alt.usenet.kooks
Blue King's Rook's Pawn: [Linda Gore]
Congratulations LINDA GORE!!!
My guess is that you have won many more than these.
Mark Probert
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
Yes, really!
Peter B
Yes, really!
================================================
Then prove these and yours do not exist.
What awards were those?
Oh yeah, it was these....04/05 Linda Gore
Every month special recognition is given to someone whose Kookery is
judged to have surpassed all others. This is the Kook of the Month award
(KotM), voted (somewhat informally) by the denizens of
3.Busted Urinal Award
[Linda Gore]
4.Unabomber Surprise
[Linda Gore]
5.Order of the Holey Sockpuppet
[Linda Gore]
6.Index of kooks
[Linda Gore]
7.Kook Chess Set of alt.usenet.kooks
Blue King's Rook's Pawn: [Linda Gore]
I am calling your bluff, I demonstated truth, now you demonstrat that I
am wrong.
Oh? YOU can't?
Should I post the list of your credentials?
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
Listen here Parsons, I have proven a million times over about Linda's
credentials, they stand the test of time, yours do NOT!
Peter B
=================================================
I don't even know who parsons is, guess I'll start posting your awards
also.
Linda
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> On Jan 19, 2:54 pm, "ed_turk" <edmund_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:cb556959-eec6-417b...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > When one snips a quotation mid-stream, the laws of the land require
> > > the snipster to properly attribute the author <snip>
> > > Glenn Greenwald authored the quotation <snip>
>
> > the allegation is so patently false on its face that attributing
> > it to an author would serve no useful purpose.
>
> I have to disagree with that. I have read everything that Linda has
> posted and have found absolutely zero facts that have been proven
> wrong.
Correct.
> In fact, her text is written at a graduate school level
Correct.
> her conclusions are well referenced and exhaustingly referenced.
Correct.
> She is a champion of the most defenseless people in our society
Correct.
> in my book that makes her a patriot and a hero. If there was a
> medal for usenet postings, she would receive the highest
> possible award available.
I'm humbled by your saying so.
> My only complaint is she doesn’t post often enough, which
> makes her work even more important!
Ultimate compliment.
Thank you, Art.
Linda
:-)
ed_turk
On Jan 19, 11:31 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> > I have read everything that Linda has posted and
> > have found absolutely zero facts
> > In fact, her text is written at a graduate school level
> Correct.
> > her conclusions are well referenced and exhaustingly referenced.
> Correct.
> > She is a champion of the most defenseless people in our society
> Correct.
> > in my book that makes her a patriot and a hero. If there was a
> > medal for usenet postings, she would receive the highest
> > possible award available.
so how 'bout asking the postal service to mint a postage stamp
with Linda's image and likeness on it, in her honor, of course.
ed_turk
> On Jan 19, 11:31 pm, "Sir fArtio" wrote:
>> I have read everything that Linda has posted and
>> and have found absolutely zero facts
>
>> In fact, her text is written at a grad school level
>
> Correct.
>
>
>> her conclusions are referenced and exhaustingly referenced.
>
> Correct.
>
>
>> She is a champion of the most defenseless people in our society
>
> Correct.
>
>
>> in my book that makes her a patriot and a hero. If there was a
>> medal for usenet postings, she would receive the highest
>> possible award available.
what's a medal going to do for her?
but a postage stamp with her image and likeness on it would make her famous,
perhaps leading to appearances on Oprah, Dr. Phil, Judge Judy, and American
Idol.
many of the subjects chosen to appear on U.S. stamps are suggested by the
public.
each year. the Postal Service receives thousands of letters from the
American public
proposing stamp subjects.
stamp proposals should be submitted in writing to the following address:
Citizens' Stamp Advisory Committee
c/o Stamp Development
U.S. Postal Service
1735 North Lynn St., Suite 5013
Arlington, VA 22209-6432
also see see http://www.usps.com/communications/organization/csac.htm
if Alabama's Bear Bryant made it to a stamp, why shouldn't Usenet's Linda M.
Gore?
http://tinyurl.com/yff4tcl
ed_turk
> On Jan 19, 11:31 pm, "Sir fArtio" wrote:
>> I have read everything that Linda has posted and
>> and have found absolutely zero facts
>
>> In fact, her text is written at a grad school level
>
> Correct.
>
>
>> her conclusions are referenced and exhaustingly referenced.
>
> Correct.
>
>
>> She is a champion of the most defenseless people in our society
>
> Correct.
>
>
>> in my book that makes her a patriot and a hero. If there was a
>> medal for usenet postings, she would receive the highest
>> possible award available.
what's a medal going to do for her?
but a postage stamp with her image and likeness on it would make her famous,
perhaps leading to appearances on Oprah, Dr. Phil, Judge Judy, and American
Idol.
the postal service receives thousands of letters from the American public
proposing stamp subjects each year.
stamp proposals should be submitted in writing to the following address:
Citizens' Stamp Advisory Committee
c/o Stamp Development
U.S. Postal Service
1735 North Lynn St., Suite 5013
Arlington, VA 22209-6432
if Bear Bryant made it to a stamp, why shouldn't Linda Gore?
http://tinyurl.com/yff4tcl
Jan Drew
Tried to change the subject. Must be trolling.
invalid
And so dull, tedious and hackneyed as to be devoid of any redeeming
entertainment value.
ed_turk
news:7jnsl5dn5ucrode63...@4ax.com...
hit a raw nerve?
admit it, fritz, you're just plain envious of Linda Gore.
a U.S. Postage Stamp will be minted in her honor,
while you've been regulated to the dustbin of history.
clearly, your usenet postings put you in the unenlightened minority,
squarely on the lunatic fringe.
now go lay on that psychoanalyst's couch.
he may eventually help you come to terms
with why mama didn't breastfeed you enough.
that is, if your income from collecting and cashing in
discarded soda pop/beer cans is enough to pay for it.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
Parsons, your cult has been reduced to a scant two members, although
Proby should count at best as 1/2 and you a minus one. That puts
your group into the negative column. Although considering that all
you and your pal post are negative, I guess I have once again proven
that everything that I have ever wrote is 100% true. What else is
new?
Sir Arthur
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
You are welcome Linda. But we must not rest on our laurels! We have
to continue to print the facts about these criminals! I peg them as
children who have been physically and mentally abused. One day I
predict they will thank us!
invalid
wrote:
Yep.
Dull, tedious and hackneyed troll just about covers it.
Thank you for proving the point with such alacrity.
pautrey
>
> - Show quoted text -
> Parsons, your cult has been reduced to a scant two members, although
> Proby should count at best as 1/2 and you a minus one. That puts
> your group into the negative column. Although considering that all
> you and your pal post are negative, I guess I have once again proven
> that everything that I have ever wrote is 100% true. What else is
> new?
They're in a total state of caos.
Losers!
...the deceitful words of Mark S. Probert, disbarred by the...
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/propagandistprobert.html
pautrey
>
> - Show quoted text -
> Parsons, your cult has been reduced to a scant two members, although
> Proby should count at best as 1/2 and you a minus one. That puts
> your group into the negative column. Although considering that all
> you and your pal post are negative, I guess I have once again proven
> that everything that I have ever wrote is 100% true. What else is
> new?
Their allopathy cult is in a state of total chaos.
Linda
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Linda
> Each and every year since 1951, the US Congress's Annual
> Appropriations Act included the following stipulation:
>
> "No part of any appropriation contained in this or any other Act
> shall be used for publicity or propaganda purposes within the United
> States not heretofore authorized by the Congress."
>
> "publicity or propaganda" is defined by the U.S. Government
> Accountability Office (GAO) to mean either (1) self-aggrandizement by
> public officials, (2) purely partisan activity, or (3) "covert
> propaganda." By covert propaganda, GAO means information which
> originates from the government but is unattributed and made to appear
> as though it came from a third party."
Oops!
Mea Culpa!
Quoted material is the intellectual property of Diane Farsetta in the
article published April 28, 2008 titled "Pentagon Pundit Scandal Broke
the Law"
http://www.prwatch.org/node/7261
>
> http://www.examiner.com/x-/x-10438-Human-Rights-Examiner~y2010m1d5-Ex...
Linda
The adherents of their cult publicly admitted as much when they chose
to eschew the special interest groups chartered for them and their
satisfied customers in Usenet's Sci and Soc heirarchy in favor of
cybersquatting their psychopathic arses in discussion newgroups in
Usenet's Alt. and Misc. heirarchy to disrupt, preempt, and preclude
ordinary people from forming human networks necessary to establish
"special interest groups" to oppose their mass murder, mass
debilitation and mass impoverishment of Americans under the false
pretext of what they euphemistically call "help".
ed_turk
yep.
and you posted beaucoup times in reply, none of which
added anything new.
funny how a 'troll' could do that to you.
invalid
wrote:
You , OTOH, recycled one of your stale , hackneyed old insults
and in so doing spoilt the new sock you are hiding behind , revealing
yourself to be a disgusting,pornographic,sadistic troll who has long
plagued subscribers to this group.
Funny how that works.
ed_turk
"invalid" <invalid.invalid@invalid> wrote in message
funny, i'm so discounted, yet you keep posting replies.
have you considered hiring a Native American shaman to drive the
plague out of your head?
only if you can afford it, of course.
invalid
wrote:
That's more like it.
At the very least a resident troll, such as yourself,should be amusing
from time to time.
ed_turk
"invalid" <invalid.invalid@invalid> wrote in message
i wouldn't be too amused.
you're still in the unenlightened minority,
squarely on the lunatic fringe.
focus on making at least one supported claim,
at least once in awhile.
if you can.
Peter B
"ed_turk" <edmun...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hk0r60$tav$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Is that what your aliens tell you to say?
ed_turk
news:4b63f852$1...@news.x-privat.org...
projecting again?
ed_turk
>> you're still in the unenlightened minority,
>> squarely on the lunatic fringe.
>>
>> focus on making at least one supported claim,
>> at least once in awhile.
>>
>> if you can.
>
> Is that what your aliens tell you to say?
>
in fact reflections of our disowned selves.
--Dr Hal Stone.
ed_turk
your aliens at work: http://tinyurl.com/n9x4rx
Peter B
As usual they are wrong.
Peter B
"eugapos" <eug...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4B64B395...@cox.net...
> i don't know any aliens.
> everyone in my circle is a U.S. citizen.
So you are also ed turk? ;)
Linda
> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 05:03:56 -0500, "ed_turk" <edmund_t...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"invalid" <invalid.invalid@invalid> wrote in message
> >news:9f1ul59gnfqk6tln4...@4ax.com...
>
> You , OTOH, recycled one of your stale , hackneyed old insults
> and in so doing spoilt the new sock you are hiding behind , revealing
> yourself to be a disgusting,pornographic,sadistic troll who has long
> plagued subscribers to this group.
FYI
As far as me and mine are concerned, Daniel L. Rogers, is the numero
uno person of interest wrt authorship of the "Turkey's" posts.
Porno P is also on the list of unsub's wrt authorship of the Turkey's
articles;however, Porno P is a dead ringer for authorship of a
secondary co-conspirator......
ESR is the numero uno person of interest wrt authorship of the most
recent "Escape from the Cult of Scientology" articles being published
to effect my murder by proxy.
FWIW......
>
> Funnyhow thatworks.
ed_turk
> As far as me and mine are concerned, Daniel L. Rogers, is the numero
> uno person of interest wrt authorship of the "Turkey's" posts.
>
> Porno P is also on the list of unsub's wrt authorship of the Turkey's
> articles;however, Porno P is a dead ringer for authorship of a
> secondary co-conspirator......
>
> ESR is the numero uno person of interest wrt authorship of the most
> recent "Escape from the Cult of Scientology" articles being published
> to effect my murder by proxy.
>
> FWIW......
ed_turk
news:87d5e1f3-4619-41d4...@l24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Linda Gore <indomi...@google.com> wrote:
> As far as me and mine are concerned, Daniel L. Rogers, is the numero
> uno person of interest wrt authorship of the "Turkey's" posts.
>
> Porno P is also on the list of unsub's wrt authorship of the Turkey's
> articles;however, Porno P is a dead ringer for authorship of a
> secondary co-conspirator......
>
> ESR is the numero uno person of interest wrt authorship of the most
> recent "Escape from the Cult of Scientology" articles being published
> to effect my murder by proxy.
>
> FWIW......
ed_turk
> On Feb 4, 11:57 pm, "ed_turk" <edmund_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Linda Gore <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip the usual incoherent polemics>
>>
>>> Speaking of which---is the John Gruber whom the Obama Administration
>>> misappropriated American's money to hype Obama Care, whilst
>>> pretending he was an independent expert rather than a paid government
>>> propagandist, one and the same as Usenet's infamous John Gruber?
>>> If so, did a previous administration also misappropriate American's
>>> hard earned money to pay John Gruber to publish US government
>>> propaganda on Usenet, whilst pretending to be an independent expert?
>> it's Dr. Jonathan Gruber to you
>
> No, it's not, moron.
i'm afraid it is, child.
no matter how much you refuse to acknowledge it,
it's Dr. Jonathan Gruber, not John Gruber.
everyone knows it, too.
only you don't.
now fuss and stomp some more.
show everyone just how 'indomitable' you are. :-)
> Gruber does NOT have the requisite social or contractual relationship
> with yours truly which would entitle Gruber to employ the purely
> social title of "dr." vis a vis yours truly.
a social or contractual relationship isn't required
to call someone by his correct name and title.
it's just common courtesy.
and, knowing what you're talking about.
> Furthermore, this discussion of Gruber is a discussion of Gruber
> being the recipient of big $$$ MISAPPROPRIATED from American families
> like mine during the Obama administration, ....
there was no discussion.
you made an allegation.
proof of misappropriation?
you offered none.
all you ever offer is the usual persecutorial polemics.
of course, you are never responsible.
it's always "their" doing.
poor victim.
> ....as well as, a discussion of whether or not that John Gruber
> is one and the same as Usenet's infamous John Gruber...
> ... and, if it is, was John Gruber also the recipient of big $$$
> misappropriated from American families like mine during the
> Clinton administration for publishing government propaganda
> to useent?
happy hunting.
Escape_the_Cult_Now
starting with C
> CALFORNIA RANCH SCHOOL
> 17305 Santa Rosa Mine Rd.
> Perris , CA 92570
>
> CALICCHIO & CO., SPA - Members of the IAS who donated in excess of
> $40,000 to "War Chest", Donated in excess of $20,000 to Author
> Services Pres. of Tech.
>
> CASA DOLCE CASA - (Europe) WISE member fronting LRH technology in
> Europe
>
> Celebrity Center Kids on Stage for a Better World - Entertainment
> and PR, "The group exists to spread the word of scientology to the
> rest of the world"
>
> CCHR - see Citizens Commission on Human Rights
>
> Child Guidance Centers - Set up by scis, runs child dianetics
> processing on children and encourages parents who are not already
> into scientology to begin with Dianetics etc.
>
> Center for Digital Government
>
> CHURCH OF SPIRITUAL TECHNOLOGY (COST) - functions as an archivist
> for Hubbard's works. Also functions as one of the corporations
> created to challenge the IRS's ruling against CoS. Formed in part
> from assets stripped from Church of Scientology of California.
> Wollersheim
> Suspected as also being a survival retreat for high ranking leadership
> and VIPs, one facility has 200 underground bunks.
> CITIZENS FOR AN ALTERNATIVE TAX SYSTEM - Set up as a "citizens"
> group to abolish the IRS entirely, uses the "Church of Spritual
> Technology" as one of the corporations to challenge the IRS's ruling
> against them.
>
> CITIZENS COMMISSION ON HUMAN RIGHTS (CCHR) -
>
> Defame, devalue, discredit and destroy the field of psychology and
> psychiatry so they can take over the field of mental health and get
> the money from current clients.
>
> See Response to CCHR by American Psychiatric Association
>
> August 2006 - BBC UK does a terrific Radio show about CCHR and the
> Volunteer Ministers - AUDIO File
> CMI CORPORATE MARKETING - IAS members who have donated iin excess of
> $40,000 to the Assn's. "War Chest" Impact Mag.
>
> COMMUNITY SERVICE GUILD - est in Washington D.C. by sci to get LRH
> influence involved in public schools with a tutoring program.
> Freedom Mag
>
> COMPUTER ETHICS INSTITUTE - (CEI) - Used by the church of sci in
> their attempt to gain control over what can and cannot be put over
> the Internet. Freedom
>
> CONCERNED BUSINESSMENS ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA - "CBAA" - sponsors
> writing
> contests and other programs in schools, and try to get students
> involved in LRH beliefs. Hands out Way To Happiness (By LRH) to
> community groups, police, prisons and other groups. Purpose, to
> promote LRH and CoS and get name recognition for LRH
> Runs "Children's "Set A Good Example" Campaign AKA SAGE to lure
> children into considering L Ron Hubbard as a reliable source
>
>
> (c) 2001 Concerned Businessmen's Association of America. All rights
> reserved. ABLE(R), Aplied Scholastics(tm), Narconon(R) and
> Criminon(tm) are
> trademarks and service marks owned by Association for Better Living
> and Education International and are used with its permission. THE WAY
> TO HAPPINESS is a trademark and service mark owned by The Way To
> Happiness International and is used with its permission.
>
> COST - See Church of Spiritual Technology
>
> CRIMINON - Like Narconon in prisons.
>
> Criminon consists of volunteers, that is Scientologists, distributing
> copies of Hubbard's covert recruitment tool "The Way to Happiness"
> that is full of little common sense quotes. There is nothing
> inherently wrong with the quotes themselves, though better quotes are
> avialable from the truly great writers and philosophers that Hubbard
> stole them from. What is important to understand about Criminon, is
> that the purpose of the program is to RECRUIT people into scientology,
> NOT to help reform prisoners, despite Scientology's lies to the
> contrary. The purpose of the program, is to create the perception that
> L. Ron Hubbard was some great man instead of the convicted felon that
> he actually was, Why would any Prison Warden official allow a program
> based upon the writings of a convicted felon to be used at all, much
> less as a covert recruitment tool into an organization convicted in
> canada for Breach of the Public Trust? Copies of "Way to Happiness"
> are distributed, and then people already fooled by Hubbard's lies,
> "Scientologists", correspond in writing with the prisoners about the
> quotes in the book. The purpose? Is to recruit more members.
> Conclusion? Criminon is just another bogus, covert recruitment tool.
>
> CSR - citizens for social reform - See LINK
>
> CRY OUT - interfaces with organizations like Greenpeace and
> capitalizes on children's environmental concerns, it distributes
> comic book like primer on the environment sponsored by Arsenio
> Hall and Rick Dees, and making no mention of scientology, to school
> children. Bet Bus Bur.
> DELPHIAN SCHOOL
> 20950 S.W. Rock Creek Rd.
> Sheridan, Oregon 97378
>
>
> http://www.lermanet.com/frontgroups.html
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