Is is important to support a bipolar person with tender, love, care
and compassion. They do not typcially understand why they say or do
the things that are improper and obnoxious.
My Gosh... What a swell bunch of guys!
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> Is is important to support a bipolar person with tender, love, care
> and compassion. They do not typcially understand why they say or do
> the things that are improper and obnoxious.
I'm of the school that we shouldn't be treated differently than anyone
else. Babying us only makes us weaker, more dependent, hence subject
to tantrums when things don't go just go our way. Living in a paper
doll world is hardly what I'd recommend to contend with what goes on
outside the home. Who do you have bound and gaged in your basement?
'Improper' is a moving scale based on our associations with people. In
fact, so is obnoxious. i.e. what 'can' be obnoxious to obnoxious
people? A goodies 2 shoes! That's what! Pendulums swing both ways: The
real problem lies in a lack of communication skills for both the
totally confused and the apparently well. And unusual perspectives are
less likely to develop in the vane of personal cynicism, but more
likely is making a sweeping, general statement. i.e. It's not just
that you suck. But everyone who looks like you! Anger is seldom, if
ever, directed at a stupid answer, but more likely, all the stupid
answers there ever were that accumulated to fashion a brand new
depressoid for the Zoo Keepers to feed... Take my word for it. Only
those who suffer have an opportunity to gain some headway into what
makes us all tick; whether depressed, or unable to express sadness at
all. He'll respect you more if you instead instilled confidence in his
abilities to function as a certified weirdo. We wear masks, So, is
sweet more reliable?
The way you put things reminds me of my bf. I agree with what you've
said here, though I had to read it a couple of times to make sure I
got it. What do you think of personal responsibility then? Do you feel
you should always be held accountable for your words and your deeds in
spite of being bipolar? Just trying to gain some perspective here.
Rose
My two cents: The concept of responsibility is difficult when someone truly
cannot control his behavior. I would say that responsibility has two
components:
First, he should do everything he can to control his behavior, through
medication (to treat his condition) and vigilance (watching himself, seeking
or accepting advice from people he trusts about his behavior).
Second, if he does something regrettable in a manic episode, he should make
amends as best as he can, and apologize for his actions.
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This is a wierd one... a couple of weeks ago I went in to a mania
state (I didn't realise this at the time, I was in denial that I was
sick at all) ... I was literally saying things and only after wards
did I know what i was saying... it was totally crazy and I was totally
out of control - too the point that I was really scared of what I'd
do. I really didn't feel at that point in time that I could be
responsible for signing a petition so its hard to say wether I had
responsibility or not... of course, I went to my doctor and then the
psyche and now on new meds; but you really don't know what is going on
at the time.... total lack of self control is the best way for me to
describe it.
Of course my relationship has broken down due to this strange
behaviour which I couldn't 'get' or didn't want to claim. Now I
understand myself a bit better and agree that you need to watch out
for 'enablers' or 'enabling' - yes, the most important thing is
compassion and understanding; tolerance and love; but communicate with
the person what has happened.
I know for a fact I did and said many many things which I didn't mean
which I can't take back now... no going back. And yes, I take
responsibility for that I suppose even if I'm in a low right now; and
yes, I apologised... one thing I've never been rid of is guilt...
guilt for acting the way i do when I lose all sense of myself...
Part of me taking responsiblity for my behavior is remembering - all
the way back to youngdom - the things i did and said. Talk about not
being able to take it back. All i can do now is wince and groan when
i remember. I really feel bad about it. I wish i could let go.
shawn
Try not to think about it... easier said than done... i know... I go
over and over and over every single event of my life and I do remember
most things, and in a lot of detail, which sux... I try to imagine
that "everything happens for a reason"; or "there is no right or wrong
in the school of life" ...... but it still hurts like hell...
Can you say sorry to the people you hurt? Or... Why don't you write
them a letter and put everything into it and then when you are done,
read it over and when you are ready tear it into pieces and consider
it 'gone'... or some other way to get some kind of 'catharsis'
going...
Listen to me, I'm on an 'up' at the moment which is why I sound like
some kind of expert...
I wish I could too but not quite the same way if you catch my drift
Shawn? I'm beginning to think this stone won't pass, which means
another Hospital visit. As you know, with super bugs all flying about,
nows not the best timing for this... I've tried everything: Exercise,
diet, rest, girlie mags... Nothing works! Nothing!
I'm exactly the opposite; It's just to awful for me to remember my
crap. It throws me into night sweats... Now it's plastered all over
the T.V. with Fundamentalist this and Religious that! That and war
movies. I just plain don't associate with T.V. people anymore. I wish
they'd just hurry up and slaughter each other so I can get some peace!
LOL! 'I'm planning to blow up the earth. It obstructs my view of
Venus!' (Marvin The Martian)