constantly the same advice
paula
this post is for all those who are lurking and to afraid to write, and for those
who are honest about wanting to improve their health. Others need not apply :-)
Having attend a few huge seminars, and my husband even more, where part of the
program was talking to people about (health) problems, we both were amazed
about the responses we received when we mentioned IBD. How many people have
friends or relatives with IBD is astonishing. Both of us have been consistently
advised to take, yes indeed, USANA products. It seems their loved ones only got
significantly better after taking those. Sadly most did not know what was taken
so I can't help you there. But if anyone was wondering if they are worth the
cost, it sure seems to be the case. So far, the seminars were in Alberta so we
thought maybe once known in the region it snowballs, and of course the lash out
here from posting something like that has prevented me from posting this sooner.
But, now recently in L.A. and on the cruise people from the US had the same
advice and one person we talked to had crohn's himself and only after using
USANA for a couple of months was he able to leave the house again and is even
working now. Snort if you want, that is what people told us and since hubby
helped to kill file the ones I wanted to, I now feel free to post this info
here.
In any case, proper nutrition is no doubt of he utmost importance and products
from Wall mart, Walgreens etc. are indeed useless. Make sure to get a good
quality product. Which ones are good in your area is for you to figure out, but
obviously Usana is doing something right. I will be buying for sure.
Wishing you all a healthier new year
"Most people are more comfortable with old problems than with new solutions."
-author unknown to me at this time-
** Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit
of the goal. ~Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Jeff and Mary
seeing such a hard sell here with such a long post. would be curious as to
know how you gain from this.
jeff
"paula" <nom...@lspam.net> wrote in message
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Howard Jarrett
Yes I did try USASA vitamins at one time.
My experience was that within hours of starting to take USANA vitamins I
began to pass blood.
Of course I stopped taking them. The bleeding stopped.
Yes, I still do take a few vitamins. With no ill effects.
(A multivitamin, a B-Complex, Zinc, Saw Palmeto-that's a man thing because I
have a prostate)
I recommend that if you are going to take vitamins, you look for them at a
vitamin store/natural food store. They most likely would carry vitamins made
by a number of good companies.
I have been in remission for two years or so.
I take Colazal, one of the 5-ASA drugs.
It's what works for me.
Howard
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Paul
What you are saying sounds interesting and encouraging, but you must keep in mind that it is still anecdotal evidence.
Without proper double blind studies with a significant number of people the usefulness of this information is
questionable. What other medications are these people on? I for one have never heard of USANA until I came to this group
a few years ago and I have never heard of them outside the Internet. What types of seminars are you going to? If they
are marketing types, then that would explain a lot. I use to go to a lot of marketing seminars 10 years ago but I got
sick and tired of all the hype, lies and misinformation. With IBD it is very difficult to accept anecdotal evidence. The
placebo rate has been shown in many proper studies to be as high as 30 to 40 percent.
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jeff
"Howard Jarrett" <hjar...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Lisa S. Quinn
I wish I had stopped at the earliest warning signals but I was lost in that
sea of hope that most of us have fallen into from time to time in our search
for health. Vitamins can be terrific IF tolerated and not contraindicated
by any of your prescription meds so it is ALWAYS a good idea to have your
physician's input and dosage recommendations.
~Lisa S. Quinn
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Ken.W
When it comes to quality USANA can't be beat.
It's definitely been a huge blessing in my life.
Price wise there multi is the best deal in town.....
The only way to get a better deal is to decrease or cut
out a nutrient.
Whenever something is good people do have a tendency to talk about it.
And yes the word is definitly spreading like wildfire.
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>
Sdores
changes are you seeing? I am on a prescribe RX vitamin called B-Complexes
that my GI has me on because of absorption issues from my resection. So far
this is working for me. UM MOM Susan
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>
nonava...@hotmail.com
it.
Translation: I didn't bother to read the scientific literature to see
if this racket's claims are supported by actual data--data derived from
testing the merchandise on actual people with actual medical problems.
I just believed everything the company told me, and questioned nothing.
nonava...@hotmail.com
it.
People, maybe, but not scientists. The PubMed database shows not a
single independent study has ever been conducted on USTANKA
merchandise. Not one. So much for "what science is teaching us," as Ken
likes to put it.
Lisa S. Quinn
WELCOME independent testing!! If it looks, smells, and tastes like Snake
Oil then it probably is just Snake Oil....
Just my opinion...
~Lisa S. Quinn
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would
> WELCOME independent testing!! If it looks, smells, and tastes like
Snake
> Oil then it probably is just Snake Oil....
>
$1,000-a-day wheatgrass-enema "clinic": www.sanoviv.com
nonava...@hotmail.com
Mexican
> $1,000-a-day wheatgrass-enema "clinic": www.sanoviv.com
PS: This is from "Sanoviv's" web site:
The skin is the largest detoxification organ of the body. Dry skin
brushing is an important part of the detoxification process because it
removes dead skin cells, improves circulation, opens pores, and
increases the skin's ability to remove toxins. The only equipment
needed is a natural bristle body brush, preferably one with a
detachable long handle. It is important to keep the brush clean, as it
will be removing dead skin and impurities from the body. Every few
days, wash the brush with a mild soap, rinse well, towel dry, and allow
24 hours for further drying before using it again.
Benefits of Dry Skin Brushing
Removes dead skin and other impurities
Keeps pores open for better toxin elimination
Stimulates and increases blood circulation throughout the body
Stimulates hormone and oil producing glands
Rejuvenates the nervous system by stimulating nerve endings in the skin
Helps prevent colds, especially when used with hot/cold showers
Makes skin look younger, fresher, and softer
Dry Skin brushing is of particular importance during fasting, when the
body is releasing toxins.
Jeff and Mary
health a beauty. Said nothing about detoxifying.
Mary
<nonava...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Lisa S. Quinn
Too bad they are actually successful in luring so many sick and desperate
people...
~Lisa S. Quinn
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to
> health a beauty. Said nothing about detoxifying.
>
pharmaceutical cartel.
Anyway, the dry brushing is only for external "detoxifying." For the
internal kind, Sanoviv uses wheatgrass enemas. (And you thought you
weren't getting your $1,000/day worth...)
nonava...@hotmail.com
>
scene showed founder Myron Wentz standing on the beach, trying to look
scientific, while a soundtrack of seagulls cawing in the background
would start up...
Back then they also admitted that they'd do plastic surgery if the
"guest" requested it; this latest version of the Website appears to
have hushed up any mention of that.
nonava...@hotmail.com
Lisa S. Quinn wrote:
> I know!! I sometimes just visit their site if I need some giggles!!
>
expect at the state-of-the-art Sanoviv Clinic:
"The VEGA Audiocolor is a bipolar color and audio tone therapy device
for strengthening the constitution. Twelve colors and tones over four
octaves can be used individually or combined by mixing for customized
therapy.
"The tone frequencies are transmitted to the patient acoustically via
headphones or by means of a phonator. For color therapy, the color
information can be applied using bipolar therapy electrodes or
magnetic-field probes.
"In addition, the device has over 50 pre-stored therapy program
sequences. The program sequences are designed to address a wide variety
of conditions from neurosis, stress, shock, depression, sleep
disorders, allergies, asthma, heart, liver and kidney disturbances,
chronic inflammations and pain.
Deb Schuback
Debs
nonava...@hotmail.com wrote:
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Jeff2
I personally don't take them but I've looked at the ingredients and I don't
see anything wrong with them. Not sure what all the fuss is about but I
think it's more about the delivery of the message rather than the products
themselves.
I do take a number of supplements and I agree with you that quality matters.
I've always bought my supps at reputable health foods stores such as Whole
Foods, formerly Bread and Circus in the Boston area, which even stopped
selling margarine for Pete's sake. Anyway I'm fairly confident that their
products such as Solgar, Country Life or Rainbow Light contain what they say
they do since there hasn't been any evidence to the contrary. :)
tx
Jeff
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>
John H
"Ken.W" <phos...@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Paula
> When it comes to quality USANA can't be beat.
> It's definitely been a huge blessing in my life.
> Price wise there multi is the best deal in town.....
> The only way to get a better deal is to decrease or cut
> out a nutrient.
> Whenever something is good people do have a tendency to talk about it.
> And yes the word is definitly spreading like wildfire.
>
>
>
go on cruises too. You'll just have to spend a while posting supporting
posts on newsgroups (alt. mole onbigtoe etc) in support of all the people
you 'sponsered'.
John
Paul
>
> Yes and if you build up a big downline (pyramid) yourself you can retire and
> go on cruises too. You'll just have to spend a while posting supporting
> posts on newsgroups (alt. mole onbigtoe etc) in support of all the people
> you 'sponsered'.
> John
You mean that cruises are full of MLM sales people? Darn, I just book a
cruise and now I can look forward to a ship full of Kens. LOL
Rebeccake
Paul!! Glad you are feeling well enough to go.
Rebecca :-)
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Paul
There are 7 of us going, my brother, his wife, my sister, my Aunt, my wife and of course our daughter. When I suggested
we leave Alana behind my wife wouldn't hear of it. I hope my UC behaves itself.
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Rebeccake
entire time.
Rebecca :-)
Hugs to Alana
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Rebeccake
they really grow up fast! I can't believe my oldest is going to college in a
year!! Enjoy every minute with Alana ---
Rebecca :-)
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Sdores
give her a hug and a Happy Birthday for me! Enjoy the cruise, I think you
will find that cruising and IBD go very nicely together. If you have any
diet limitations that you know you "can't" eat, just tell the waiter the
first sit down dinner and he will make sure it isn't in any of your food,
like I can't eat nuts and seeds, he made sure that if the food had nuts or
seed in it that mine didn't or if the food couldn't be changed that it was
flagged for him so that I would pick something else safe for me to eat. I
have been on a lot of cruises, one out of Miami and then we started the rest
closer to home at FT Lauderdale after finding a ship we really like. If I
can help you at all just drop an email in. I have my surgery for this
Tuesday but should be able to be back to answering at least my emails
hopefully in a few days. Enjoy the trip! UM MOM Susannews:41EDA2EF...@deadspam.com...
paula
When I wrote this I was not on USANA at all yet. We just got from well over 100
people we talked to the name USANA ( that was to many to ignore). Actually the
idiot GI I had told me to go off everything I was on. My husband wasn't happy
but I thought it was for possible interference. Later I found out he "thought it
was a waste of money" ( BS of course, he gladly takes my money in his pocket
!!!) I since have developed a real bad case of 3 types of hives ( ?? we think it
is). I am already 5 months on the waiting list for a dermatologist ( next week,
and as long but a May appointment with a allergist). My GP thinks taking vit/
mineral in large doses will be excellent again; he knows it took me from being
bedridden for over 2 years to being able to shop a bit every other day. But he
wanted me to wait till I see the dermatologist ( obviously the hives would be
blamed on the vit/minerals one takes duh! Seems all specialist here have a
version of doing that type of blaming).
Before I became bedridden I too thought vit C is vit C right??? Well, it didn't
work. I decide to listen to some of the people who did get better and said you
need a good brand name; the rest is a waste of money. I didn't even know I had
crohn's but knew I needed much more then others to make a difference. I
researched a lot and 2 years later I walked down the stairs*. My general health
has gone down very steadily since seeing the GI and having not only quit the
vit/ minerals, but the GI medications have done a real bad number to my health.
Now with the hives I am scared to start any, but I have to.
Sdores wrote:
>
> Hi Paula! How long have you been taking them and if you don't mind, what
> changes are you seeing? I am on a prescribe RX vitamin called B-Complexes
> that my GI has me on because of absorption issues from my resection. So far
> this is working for me. UM MOM Susan
Susan, if it works then that is great. Do you feel you are at optimum?? Most
doc, incl specialist know very little about vit/ minerals. All they know if what
they learned in a class of about 4 hours length, and what they themselves have
learned, but often not in regard to certain illnesses. One really has to learn
themselves. I really hope you are on other groups also. This one is
brainscrabled as I call it. Unless deep down you feel that if you try something
and it doesn't work for you, you are a failure instead of seeing it as
"education costs money"; but I just don't see you like that. Others here, yes I
see the type of thinking ........
Will let you know once started on USANA; hopefully I can start end of the month.
Have to find one yet, except one, none of these people were distributors, and
she lived 3 hours drive from here. to far for me.
* I did not take Usana products at that time. But I did take various different
brands depending on the item taken. None from wall mart, wall greens etc. I did
those before I started to get better.
Take care, hope your surgery goes well and that you can plan another cruise. I
bought mine from sky auction for relatively cheap. Maybe an idea unless you get
it even cheaper.
"failures are only made by those who fail to dare,
never by those who dare to fail"
---------Lester B Pearson------------
"Most people are more comfortable with old problems
than with new solutions."
"a person's position in life is a direct result of
what (s)he does not know"
Sdores
than I should be able to do a lot more because lifting has become an issue
with the hernia hurting easily now. I can tell the difference from my
vitamin when I take them, I am off of them and another med until I have the
surgery done on Tuesday. Gi and another dr I see regularly try to keep up
with alternates and my pain dr does have education in alternates, not sure
about my other two drs though, I mean how much education they have in
supplements/alternates. I just know my dr's all have to talk to each other
when I see one he better tell the others. It took a long time to train them
but they do stay in touch. Even the surgeon slips into the loop easily.
I hope they find out what the hives are about. Had some before with
allergic reaction and it's no fun. Mine was from a plant I brushed into and
another time from fire ants that bit me. UM MOM Susan
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Paul
later with a few questions about cruising. With today's snowstorm here in Toronto I sure wish I were on that cruise.
Good luck with your surgery.
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non-stop food. What I really like too is you can go to shows and things
but if you get tired you can go to your cabin and take a nap and even have
someone wake you for the special buffet or what ever. I bet you'll love it!
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John H
John
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Lisa S. Quinn
--
~Lisa S. Quinn
Criticize the words they're selling - Think for yourself and feel the walls
become like sand beneath your feet....
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paula
down the toilet. That was the sound you heard; not any USANA advertising.
Why would I even think of advertising USANA??? Make you a deal. If you can find
any connection between me and Usana, or me and Ken, then I will pay you
$10,000.*. However, if you can't find any you will be refused ANY internet
access for 5 years.
note* I offer money as that seems to be the only thing important to many on this
group, incl. you. Will find a lawyer to draw up the agreement, and that will
include severe fines for going on line anyway!!!
Now, why am I convinced John will not take me up on this offer, but still will
make his accusations ( probably because his brain went down the drain).
TEN THOUSAND John, think about it. Could buy you lots of USANA stuff :-)
P.S. Ken, you better not be my long lost cousin :-)
paula
NOTHING
Bruce
> Me thinks your brains went south ended up in your behind and you
flushed them
> down the toilet. That was the sound you heard;
>not any USANA advertising.
> Why would I even think of advertising USANA??? Make you a deal. If
you can find
> any connection between me and Usana, or me and Ken, then I will pay you
> $10,000.*. However, if you can't find any you will be refused ANY
internet
> access for 5 years.
You're a quack, one has to only look at any of your past posts to
recognize that. You buy completely into junk science over established
medical practices. You recently encouraged someone to stop taking their
medications. I'd say *your* brains went south some time ago.
nonava...@hotmail.com
> recognize that.
Why, I think following a diet based of your blood type is a brilliant
idea! I can't imagine why it hasn't caught on...
nonava...@hotmail.com
> any connection between me and Usana, or me and Ken,
The kinship between you and Ken is not genetic; it's intellectual. In
that respect, you may as well be identical twins.
Bruce
John H
the sort of motivational hipe they use in MLM schemes and such like'
You spoke to 100 people who said Usana helped them???.
This is Usana:
Our on-line process:· Training - learn from the best Internet communicators.
Learn how people "shake hands on the Internet" and apply their techniques
with your member sites.
· You and your team can scrub prospects clean of prejudices and
misconceptions about Network Marketing with our optional Brilliant Movie
educational process (English and Spanish).
· For opt-in lead-generation services and newspaper ads we provide a
marketing landing site where prospects get to "meet you" and let you know
the best time to get together.
· Several database driven web sites provide you with focused, specific
entrances, for prospects to learn about your USANA business (product only,
I suspect your Kens assistant, trying to keep his alt.support.crohns-colitis
portal from closing up.
John
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John H
supplements are any better than the majority?
http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsMultivitamins.php
Surely this is just marketing.
The fuss is all about the fact that they are part of a pyramid scheme (I
feel I can use that word in all honesty) and marketed by slanted posting on
a health support group.
John
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John H
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> Jeff you seem to me to be a sincere person.
Maybe I'm confusing you with the other Jeff.
John
mgbio
Bruce wrote:
BTW Bruce, have you noticed her e-mail has changed. I was wondering why her posts were slipping through my filter.
mgbio
Jeff
Anyway I'll answer your question even if I'm not the "right" Jeff.
No, I don't think their products are better than the ones I can get here
locally at my usual health food stores in Boston, but I don't doubt that
they are better than what you would get at WalMart. Personally I've always
been more attracted to products, brands, or teachers who take a more humble
approach. USANA seems to put themselves up on a pedistal and use a lot of
marketing to sell their products. Not that the pharma industry doesn't do
the same thing though.
tx
Jeff
Jeff and Mary
Maybe she's Ken in disguise...
mary
Lisa S. Quinn
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~Lisa S. Quinn
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