Sick and Tired
lbm
I am just looking for a little support. I have been trying to become
pregnant aggressively for the past year. My crohns has been on and
off. It seems for the past six months I haven't been able to get off
the Predisone. I take 4 Asacol 3x's a day along with the
predisone(start at 20mg and tapper down). Everytime I get off a few
days later I get another flare up. I have been experimenting with all
kinds of natural herbs and accupunture. Molo-Cure for 5 months and
I'm becoming very disappointed in the results because I am back on the
predisone. Needless to say the amount I'm spending every month to
feel the way I felt before.
My doctor has recommended Remicade several times and being that I want
to have a another child I feel that's not the best idea. I am trying
not to give up on becoming pregant, but it's starting to feel
hopeless. I feel like if I do the Remicade I've given up. My
fertility specialist and all other drs. say it have nothing to do with
the Crohns(although my problem is unexplained). I just don't believe
it. Has anyone experienced difficulty becoming pregant? Thoughts on
Remicade?
Thanks for listening!
lmb
Ken.W
No idea what Molo-Cure is ...But far as i know there isn't a cure for IBD
....but one should try and go with what science is recommending for
health...Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Proanthocyanidins, Coeanzyme q10, Essential
Fatty Acids, etc. etc etc........ along with a nutritious diet and moderate
exercise.
It almost sounds like your trying to replace your meds with something less
toxic.....Great Concept.....but personally I don't know of any onething
that
will work. It took me 8 months to where i felt i know longer needed to be
taking drugs for my crohn's and I pushed it. But i knew I was
ready......My health was stead fastly improving and I knew I didn't need
the drugs anymore.
It wasn't a matter of what I needed to fight this disease......but what do
I need to do to help improve my overall health and the learning never
ends.It was also anything but easy..... for when I was sick it was very easy
for me to find excuses for me not to do so. But the bottomline was and
still is if it's to be ...it's going to be upto me to do it. I was just sick
and tired of being sick and tired all the time.It's friggin depressing being
that way.
Most doctors will agree that a healthy patient usually responds to
treatment a lot better.
Some people call it Alternative Medicine, or Compilmentary Medicine.....I
like to term it "common sense"....for the evidence out there for people to
do so I find is irrefutable. Even more so when we are sick. Just take a
quick looksee at Vitamin E....it's amazing the benefits that Science has
shown we can derive from supplementing just 400 IU's a day. Vitamin E being
just one of many. And if you find that interesting wait till you find out
about Vitamin E and Vitamin C working together in Synergy. Then add some
Proanthocyanidins to the Vitamin E and Vitamin C mixture and you will see
why I term Proanthocyanidns (The Turbocharger).
The more informed one is about there health the Better.
There are tons of books out there on how to help improve one's health
One of my favorites and fairly upto date book is Dr. Ray D Strands
"What your Doctor Doesn't know about Nutritonal Medicine maybe Killing You"
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Rob
lot of things to control my crohns before heput me on remicade and to be
honest the remicade was one of the best meds that i have bee given to
control my crohns so far.
Talk to your doctor and ask about how the remicade will affect your attemtps
to get pregnant and it's other side effects. that is the best advice I can
give.
feel better,
Rob
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"Rob" <robrai...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3f4d8269$0$52173$a046...@nnrp.fuse.net>...
NA
> "What your Doctor Doesn't know about Nutritonal Medicine maybe Killing You"
For more on this author, check out www.sanoviv.com. This is a "clinic"
in Mexico that treats cancer patients with wheatgrass enemas and
colored-light therapy and charges patients $700/day. The
"international medical director" of this "clinic" is Ray Strand, who
wrote the book Ken recommends.
Ed Torres
South Dakota, not at Sanoviv (Baha, Mexico).
Ken.W
very accurate...his sole purpose is to create a argument...so he tries hard
to make things look bad even if he has to falsify it.
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Carole Allen
clinic..., not Strand...
Keyser Soze
> If you haven't noticed already one will find that most of NA's facts aren't
> very accurate...his sole purpose is to create a argument...so he tries hard
> to make things look bad even if he has to falsify it.
>
>
That's funny coming from you Ken Ward, hell you don't worry ever
getting the facts right so why should you complain about someone else?
BTW Ken I thought you were leaving this NG for good? You're just
another drama queen on this newsgroup with a grade 10 education.
Stick to stacking boxes in a warehouse, it's about the only thing a
half-wit like you is suited to do.
Keyser Soze
> very accurate...his sole purpose is to create a argument...so he tries hard
> to make things look bad even if he has to falsify it.
>
>
That's funny coming from you Ken Ward, hell you don't worry ever
Ken.W
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I never said I was perfect!! close ...but not perfect.:)..The difference is
NA knows he is lieing. HE has to make things up so he can make it look bad.
Yes, I can stack the boxes!!! 10 hours a day. Even with this
disease....Wanna see if you can do it? I'm a bettin you wouldn't last 5
hours. It can be pretty physical....I'd like to see how well you could do
against this halfwit. :) It's easy to put things in writing...but lets see
you back it up :)
As for another example of getting the facts right... I had to go to colledge
to work in the warehouse.Have you never heard of Logistics? I have my MM1
and MM2 and I'm TQ.
So now lets hear how perfect you are!!! I really want to hear this......
Tell us about yourself...or are you just one of those people? :)
Keyser Soze
> NA knows he is lieing. HE has to make things up so he can make it look bad.
> Yes, I can stack the boxes!!! 10 hours a day. Even with this
> disease....Wanna see if you can do it? I'm a bettin you wouldn't last 5
> hours. It can be pretty physical....I'd like to see how well you could do
> against this halfwit. :) It's easy to put things in writing...but lets see
> you back it up :)
> As for another example of getting the facts right... I had to go to colledge
> to work in the warehouse.Have you never heard of Logistics? I have my MM1
> and MM2 and I'm TQ.
> So now lets hear how perfect you are!!! I really want to hear this......
> Tell us about yourself...or are you just one of those people? :)
Ken Ward, the smiley faces don't make you any less dangerous and can't
mask the obvious need for attention you have. Furthermore, Kenny boy
you don't understand science and you sure as hell don't have a good
grasp on basic medicine. For the good of everyone here just leave
this NG once and for all, and don't come back this time.
PS Please take everyone's favorite headcase, MsTjay, with you. Thanks.
Ken.W
> If you haven't noticed already one will find that most of NA's facts
aren't
> very accurate...his sole purpose is to create a argument...so he tries
hard
> to make things look bad even if he has to falsify it.
>
>
That's funny coming from you Ken Ward, hell you don't worry ever
getting the facts right so why should you complain about someone else?
BTW Ken I thought you were leaving this NG for good? You're just
another drama queen on this newsgroup with a grade 10 education.
Stick to stacking boxes in a warehouse, it's about the only thing a
half-wit like you is suited to do.
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I'm still waiting...and I really thought as much :)
Carole Allen
>
>As for another example of getting the facts right... I had to go to colledge
>to work in the warehouse.Have you never heard of Logistics? I have my MM1
>and MM2 and I'm TQ.
Colledge? I have no idea what MM1 and MM2 are, but apparently they
don't involve English classes, spelling or homophones.
MsTjay
from yours?
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NA
Which "colledge" did you go to?
NA
Sanoviv.
I don't know if that means he mixes the wheatgrass enemas himself or
he hires people to do it.
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NA
> If you haven't noticed already one will find that [etc. etc. etc.]
Ken W. and Ed Torres both get embarrassed when the subject of Sanoviv
is brought up. The Sanoviv "clinic" is owned by the same person who
runs their vitamin-shilling pyramid scheme.
see www.sanoviv.com for more on this $700/day wheatgrass-enema resort.
MsTjay
"NA" <nonava...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ed Torres
> Sanoviv.
Where can I read the information above?
Regards,
Ed Torres
Ed Torres
You should be embarrassed for providing misleading information based
on prejudice and ignorance.
NA
> Quite opposite, I'm proud!
Yet you and Ken never--ever--bring up Sanoviv yourselves. This
indicates to me that you are ashamed of it and its association to your
pyramid-scheme employer.
>
>... providing misleading information
The "information" in question is not misleading, as it came straight
from Sanoviv's website: www.sanoviv.com. That includes the price ($700
a day) and the type of "treatment" given there: wheatgrass enemas and
colored lights. The website also includes the people targeted:
patients with cancer and others who are scared and vulnerable. It also
gives its location: Mexico, out of the regulatory oversight of the
U.S. government and its fraud-busting power.
To be clear: though they never bring it up first in this newsgroup,
the pyramid scheme that Ed and Ken work for is owned by the same
people who run this so-called "clinic."
NA
board of the pyramid scheme that Ed and Ken sell vitamins for. Not
sure why Ed didn't admit that either. Another case of embarrassment?
(I guess "family practitioner in Rapid City" sounded so nice and
homey, like a painting by Norman Rockwell. Who wouldn't trust a doctor
with such an aw-shucks, down-home description? Why, he could be played
by Henry Fonda!)
NA
> I'm still waiting...and I really thought as much :)
"Still waiting" for what? Did you want him to brag that he can stack
boxes ***11*** hours a day?
This is the Internet. Keep your challenges appropriate to that medium.
NA
> to make things look bad
So when I say Ray Strand is affiliated with the Sanoviv "clinic," I'm
actually making Strand "look bad"? Your words exactly, Ken.
MsTjay
henry fonda is dead.
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NA
> > Correction: Strand calls himself "international medical director" of
> > Sanoviv.
>
> Where can I read the information above?
>
I post material about your pyramid scheme and Mexican enema mill for
two purposes: to warn patients with IBD just what kind of operations
these really are, and to advise them to steer clear. This is a
newsgroup focused on the topic of inflammatory bowel disease, and if
you have a question or comment on IBD, I'm sure several people here
will be happy to help you. If your question is on some internal matter
related to your pyrmaid-scheme, take it up with one of the pyramid
higher-ups.
NA
> Correction: Strand calls himself "international medical director" of
> Sanoviv.
>
> I don't know if that means he mixes the wheatgrass enemas himself or
> he hires people to do it.
>
during your $700-a-day stay at Sanoviv (the following is directly from
www.sanoviv.com, though I know it sounds like something in a
Neutrogena ad):
"Dry Skin Brushing
The skin is the largest detoxification organ of the body. Dry skin
brushing is an important part of the detoxification process because it
removes dead skin cells, improves circulation, opens pores, and
increases the skin's ability to remove toxins. The
only equipment needed is a natural bristle body brush, preferably one
with a detachable long handle. It is important to keep the brush
clean, as it will be removing dead skin and impurities from the body.
Every few days, wash the brush with a mild soap, rinse well, towel
dry, and allow 24 hours for further drying before using it again."
Now combine that with wheatgrass enemas and the colored-light therapy,
and if THAT's not worth $700 a day, I don't know what is.
NA
> FYI
>
> henry fonda is dead.
as is Norman Rockwell. These are rhetorical statements, not literal suggestions.
NA
He's lonely. He's isolated where he lives and works. This newgroup is
his primary social outlet, it seems. He's even agreed to give up all
mentions of "USANA" just to get a little human contact here in the
newsgroup again.
MsTjay
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Doc
RE: Re: Sick and Tired
BY: "Ken.W" <ken...@direct.ca>
>If you haven't noticed already one will find that most of NA's facts aren't
>very accurate...his sole purpose is to create a argument...so he tries hard
>to make things look bad even if he has to falsify it.
>"Ed Torres" <edtor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Correction: Dr. Ray Strand is a family practitioner in Rapid City,
>> South Dakota, not at Sanoviv (Baha, Mexico).
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Then start policing the USANA websites.
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I found several which state:
"Dr. Ray Strand, USANA Medical Advisory Board, International Medical Director
of Sanoviv."
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