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Gutterboy

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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I was reading a story in the LA Weekly about the state of TV news in Los
Angeles, and I came across "Women2Women."

"Women2Women," it seems, is the local CBS affiliate's attempt to differentiate
itself from the news pack--a newscast anchored by and, presumably, geared
toward women. Okay, whatever. But get this:

"KCBS’s Women2Women is self-described as news from a female point of view,
and, on paper at least, it may have resembled a real alternative to the
police-blotter content of other news shows. In fact, the 4 to 5 p.m. program,
anchored by Ann Martin, Catherine Anaya, Pamela Wright and Kelly Lange, might
more aptly be titled Four Chicks Sitting Around Talking. On the show’s
September 13 inaugural, Martin announced: "We’re going to have so much fun
— you know, the pregnant fashions, what’s new for babies, all of that
wonderful stuff!" "Because we are all mothers!" Lange added, a little too
loudly. Anaya got into the fun by showing off a picture of her 3-year-old
daughter, while weatherwoman Pamela Wright let it be known (as she would for
the rest of the week) that she was pregnant."

What the hell? Do they really think that women watch the news to hear a bunch
of other women natter about their freakin sprog? I'm sure that some women would
be charmed listening to strangers babble about their crotchdroppings, but
wouldn't most of them be watching Kathie Lee Gifford or home shopping or
something? And what happens when actual NEWS breaks--if all this happeebabee
talk actually gets interrupted by a tragedy?

Does anyone find this just a tad insulting? And have any Southern California
CFers seen this show? Is it as bad as it sounds?

Gutterboy
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90.4 percent of all cases of child abuse. The other 9.6% include all other
people. (source: The Chinese Fund for Children and Families, 1999)

CL55logan

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G boy posted about LA's girly news>>"We’re going to have so much fun

>— you know, the pregnant fashions, what’s new for babies, all of that
>wonderful stuff!" "Because we are all mothers!" >

It's worse than you could ever imagine-- all the pontificating (about bad
people who do bad things to others) and Mommys need to know news is so bad...
Ann Martin used to be a fairly professional news reader-- but the station took
a marketing stance that we're here for you with the the news you need crap, and
now she seems to take her role as community protector a little too seriously.
Cathy

E l i s e

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On 30 Dec 1999 01:07:47 GMT, gutte...@aol.comngtyrluv (Gutterboy)
wrote:

"We’re going to have so much fun
>— you know, the pregnant fashions, what’s new for babies, all of that

>wonderful stuff!" "Because we are all mothers!" Lange added, a little too
>loudly. Anaya got into the fun by showing off a picture of her 3-year-old
>daughter, while weatherwoman Pamela Wright let it be known (as she would for
>the rest of the week) that she was pregnant."

Wow! Sounds like they're trying to copy the success of the the
formula used for "The View", a multi-host, all-woman talk show.

However, this one sounds so simpering that it makes "The View" look
like "Firing Line".

Elise

Steelette1

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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>Does anyone find this just a tad insulting? And have any Southern California
>CFers seen this show? Is it as bad as it sounds?
>
>Gutterboy

I live just outside of LA... and I saw this show... first and last time. I
watched for the first 10 minutes wondering when they were going to get to the
news. I should have known there wouldn't be any, judging by the furnishings on
the set. No newsdesk or copy... just the sofa, stupid coffee table, coffee
mugs, and baby chatter. I thought it was the STUPIDEST thing I have ever seen.
I watch ABC now.

Laurie

Cranky

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In article <19991229200747...@ng-cu1.aol.com>,
gutte...@aol.comngtyrluv (Gutterboy) wrote:
<snip of breedertalk that sets women back 40 years>


> What the hell? Do they really think that women watch the news to
> hear a bunch
> of other women natter about their freakin sprog?

Bite your tongue, Gutterboy! Don't you know that we wimmenfolk live to
breed? Don't you realize that a woman's only true joy in life is the
ratchetlike squall of a baybee?? Aren't you aware that the smell of
sour milk and runny buttnuggets is like perfume to us? Shame on you.
Shame, shame, shame.

(sarcasm firmly in hand)


I'm sure that
> some women would
> be charmed listening to strangers babble about their
> crotchdroppings, but
> wouldn't most of them be watching Kathie Lee Gifford or home
> shopping or
> something?

Or trying to get on the Rosie O'Donnell show, presumably.


And what happens when actual NEWS breaks--if all this
> happeebabee
> talk actually gets interrupted by a tragedy?

It probably wouldn't get much airtime on this show. Unless, of course,
there was a kid involved. Then it would be the top story for the next
two months. Because after all, it's only a *real* tragedy if a kid gets
waxed.


> Does anyone find this just a tad insulting?

Absofriggenlutely. Not only as a childfree person but as a woman. I'm
insulted that even in this day and age "a woman's POV" is automatically
supposed to equal "gushing about babies, kids, and everything that goes
with them in near-masturbatory fashion." Feh.


Peace,
Cassie...fuming


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Judith Huszar

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monica wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> <major snippage>


>
> >> Does anyone find this just a tad insulting?
> >
> >Absofriggenlutely. Not only as a childfree person but as a woman. I'm
> >insulted that even in this day and age "a woman's POV" is automatically
> >supposed to equal "gushing about babies, kids, and everything that goes
> >with them in near-masturbatory fashion." Feh.
>

> AMEN SISTER!! This pisses me off too. It's like "Lifetime:
> Entertainment for Women". BLECCCCH!! More like Entertainment for
> Vapid Airheads of Any Gender Who Love Melodrama.
>
> God, this annoys me.... don't say "from a woman's POV" when women are
> so diverse. I guess they couldn't really say the truth, which would
> be "Stupid Non-Issues to Placate the Breedersow Masses, So They Don't
> Know What The Real Issues Are".
>
> Damn damn damn.... I'm sick of hearing about Wimmin's Issues when they
> really only mean mooooomie issues!!
>
> monica, not a moomie, never gonna be, but definitely a WOMAN.

i'm with you all the way on this one, monica! the only thing worse than
this "women's programming" or
"women's news" shit on TV is during political campaigns when all the moomie
and breeder interests
are lumped into the good ole "women's issues" bucket!!!

judy (go, libertarians, go!), who's sooo excited about starting her new job
in january so she won't
waste more time watching (a la accident gapers) morning "women's tv shows"!


Ian Davis

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Cranky wrote in message <20c2f050...@usw-ex0101-002.remarq.com>...

>In article <19991229200747...@ng-cu1.aol.com>,
>gutte...@aol.comngtyrluv (Gutterboy) wrote:
><snip of breedertalk that sets women back 40 years>
>
>
>> What the hell? Do they really think that women watch the news to
>> hear a bunch
>> of other women natter about their freakin sprog?
>
>Bite your tongue, Gutterboy! Don't you know that we wimmenfolk live to
>breed? Don't you realize that a woman's only true joy in life is the
>ratchetlike squall of a baybee?? Aren't you aware that the smell of
>sour milk and runny buttnuggets is like perfume to us?

BUTTNUGGETS!!!! I love this word! Did you invent it?

Janet


>

Mike Fox

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Gutterboy wrote:
> "KCBS’s Women2Women is self-described as news from a female point of view,
> and, on paper at least, it may have resembled a real alternative to the
> police-blotter content of other news shows. In fact, the 4 to 5 p.m. program,
> anchored by Ann Martin, Catherine Anaya, Pamela Wright and Kelly Lange, might
> more aptly be titled Four Chicks Sitting Around Talking. On the show’s
> September 13 inaugural, Martin announced: "We’re going to have so much fun

> — you know, the pregnant fashions, what’s new for babies, all of that
> wonderful stuff!" "Because we are all mothers!" Lange added, a little too
> loudly. Anaya got into the fun by showing off a picture of her 3-year-old
> daughter, while weatherwoman Pamela Wright let it be known (as she would for
> the rest of the week) that she was pregnant."
>
> What the hell? Do they really think that women watch the news to hear a bunch
> of other women natter about their freakin sprog? I'm sure that some women would

> be charmed listening to strangers babble about their crotchdroppings, but
> wouldn't most of them be watching Kathie Lee Gifford or home shopping or
> something? And what happens when actual NEWS breaks--if all this happeebabee

> talk actually gets interrupted by a tragedy?
>
> Does anyone find this just a tad insulting?

I applaud this new development. I hope it spreads like wildfire across
the nation. After all, what used to be the real local newscasts have
all been slowly but surely turning into this format anyway. Maybe if
they actually have a separate news show dedicated to mooooommmie fluff,
a pink-collar news ghetto so to speak, the regular newscasts will no
longer be polluted by this crap and will go back to being newscasts, and
there will finally be a time again when the news is worth watching if
you're a non-mooommie who actually wants to watch the news and keep
informed about local issues!

Mike
--
"We're not against ideas. We're against people spreading them."
(General Augusto Pinochet of Chile)

Jim

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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Ian Davis wrote:
>
> >Bite your tongue, Gutterboy! Don't you know that we wimmenfolk live to
> >breed? Don't you realize that a woman's only true joy in life is the
> >ratchetlike squall of a baybee?? Aren't you aware that the smell of
> >sour milk and runny buttnuggets is like perfume to us?
>
> BUTTNUGGETS!!!! I love this word! Did you invent it?
>
> Janet

Indeed. Mr. Gutterboy, lexicon alert.

Jim

Cheryl M Greer

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In article <19991229200747...@ng-cu1.aol.com>,
Gutterboy <gutte...@aol.comngtyrluv> wrote:

Snip description of Barbie's News for Girls.


>
>Does anyone find this just a tad insulting? And have any Southern California
>CFers seen this show? Is it as bad as it sounds?

Of course I find it insulting. And demenaing and degrading and appalling.
It's things like this that sometimes make me feel ashamed to be female.
Because I'd bet that the stupid show will do well. One local news station
around here has been running terribly sprog-centric
everyone-is-a-parrrunnt ads lately. Stuff like "After you make time for
your kids, make time for news with us"..with warm, out-of-focus images of
some Moomie reading to a passle of sprggen. Or "Get your weather first
from us, and find out how to dress your kids for school." And of course,
"Our anchors have made Pittsburgh their home..they raise Their
Chillldrunnn here."

Anyway I'm getting off topic, but I guess my point is that yes, local news
in any place seems to be aimed entirely towards breeders.

Cheryl

Cranky

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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> Ian Davis wrote:
> >

> BUTTNUGGETS!!!! I love this word! Did you invent it?
>
> Janet


I don't remember where it came from, exactly, but it was a popular
euphemism among me and my friends. It pretty much describes poo-poo of
any stripe, but "runny buttnuggets" would be evocative of baybee waste.

Anybody grossed out yet? :)

Peace,
Cassie

Lee Ann

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On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:45:41 GMT, monica wrote:
>x-no-archive: yes
><major snippage> (including headers...)

>
>>> Does anyone find this just a tad insulting?
>>
>>Absofriggenlutely. Not only as a childfree person but as a woman. I'm
>>insulted that even in this day and age "a woman's POV" is automatically
>>supposed to equal "gushing about babies, kids, and everything that goes
>>with them in near-masturbatory fashion." Feh.
>
<snip>

>Damn damn damn.... I'm sick of hearing about Wimmin's Issues when they
>really only mean mooooomie issues!!
>
>monica, not a moomie, never gonna be, but definitely a WOMAN.

Hear, hear!!

On this same line, does it irk anyone else when companies claim to be
"women-friendly", when what they mean is they provide day care and
maternity leave??? I recently read an article in a women's magazine
about companies that were "good places for women to work". Every
single one of the companies dwelled on their long maternity leave,
generous day care, etc.

Personally, I'd rather hear about the tuition reimbursement plans,
health club allowances and the possibilities of a sabbatical...

Lee Ann

Kent

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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Cranky <DarthCran...@mad.scientist.com.invalid> wrote:

: I don't remember where it came from, exactly, but it was a popular


: euphemism among me and my friends. It pretty much describes poo-poo of
: any stripe, but "runny buttnuggets" would be evocative of baybee waste.

: Anybody grossed out yet? :)

Sorry, it's difficult to type through a vomit-covered keyboard...

Kent

Cranky

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In article <84gbsj$31m$2...@netra-news.ntrnet.net>, Kent

Sorry. Had to close out the year with at least one "Beavis and
Butthead"-ism.:)

argentine penguin

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Lee Ann wrote:

> Personally, I'd rather hear about the tuition reimbursement plans,
> health club allowances and the possibilities of a sabbatical...

My job-hunting concern: I've already been "burnt" career-wise
by having co-workers and bosses who were dumb breeders (and mostly
male .... can't get away from these issues by going into
engineering).

I would be **so very** happy if I could find a place where respect
existed for my technical expertise. I rejected a very well-paying
offer because during the interview, someone who knew my marital
status started talking about what I call "Gah-gah-goo-goo" issues,
totally disregarding that it was illegal, and I resented all the
assumptions.

I have 3 technical degrees, so I don't care as much about the tuition
reimbursement (I would just like to use what I know!!!) Health club
stuff sounds good .... I need to improve my dodging skills while
bicycling (has anyone else noticed that the most dangerous drivers
out there are in ....... MINI-VANS??)

-Mb

Gutterboy

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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Wrote Jim:

<< Don't you realize that a woman's only true joy in life is the
> >ratchetlike squall of a baybee?? Aren't you aware that the smell of
> >sour milk and runny buttnuggets is like perfume to us?
>

> BUTTNUGGETS!!!! I love this word! Did you invent it?
>
> Janet

Indeed. Mr. Gutterboy, lexicon alert.
>>

At your service, Mr. Lexicographer!

By the way, who was it that coined (or used) the sprightly little term? I
couldn't find the attribution.

Kent

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argentine penguin <mb...@nospam.mediaone.net> wrote:

: stuff sounds good .... I need to improve my dodging skills while


: bicycling (has anyone else noticed that the most dangerous drivers
: out there are in ....... MINI-VANS??)

Mais oui. In this state there is a law that if it's raining, your
headlights must be on (actually, I think the technical law is, "If your
windshield wipers are on, the headlights must be on"). I always love to
note those who don't comply with this. Most than once I've seen POLICE
CARS riding around with no headlights on, but that's a different issue.
However, there's an elementary school I pass on the way to work, and last
time it was raining, I noticed *LOTS* of vehicles with no lights on--and
*all* were minivans full of sprogs. "Most precious possession" and all
that, yeah. I guess they probably thought sticking a "B@by on Board" sign
up or a bumper sticker saying "My brat goes to XYZ Elementary" would
protect them; who needs precautions like following the law? If someone got
hurt, they'd just sue the weatherman or something, as we know.

Kent

Gutterboy

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Wrote Lee Ann:

>On this same line, does it irk anyone else when companies claim to be
>"women-friendly", when what they mean is they provide day care and
>maternity leave??? I recently read an article in a women's magazine
>about companies that were "good places for women to work". Every
>single one of the companies dwelled on their long maternity leave,
>generous day care, etc.
>

>Personally, I'd rather hear about the tuition reimbursement plans,
>health club allowances and the possibilities of a sabbatical...

Lee Ann, my little butterbean...don't you know those are MEN'S issues? And that
women don't care if they earn less than men, as long as they have a Lactation
Room that locks?

Cranky

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Gutterboy <gutte...@aol.comngtyrluv> wrote in message
news:19991230154526...@ng-bh1.aol.com...
> Wrote Jim:


>
> By the way, who was it that coined (or used) the sprightly little term? I
> couldn't find the attribution.
>
> Gutterboy

Oo! Oo! That was me.:) (I'm such a glory-whore.) I didn't make that one up,
though.

--
Peace,
Cassie

Remove 'CLOTHES' to reply via e-mail (heh heh)

"What if the Hokey Pokey really *is* what it's all about?"

IleneB

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And then there's "Chet and Nat" here in Boston.
Chet Curtis and Natalie Jacobson have been married for 25 years, and
co-anchors on local ABC news. The show has promoted itself as "the
Channel 5 family" and been all community-focused and all. The anchors
seem like very nice people, professional, and good (for local news).
Their one child was followed avidly in the media.

Last week's announcement, a divorce. Channel 5 gulps. 'whoops'

Ilene B "who gets the place in Nantucket, that's what I want to know"


In article <R%Na4.7523$k7.2...@news1.teleport.com>, Lorz
<lo...@teleport.com> wrote:

> There's a news anchor couple here, named John Marler and Cathy Marshall.
> Those of you from Boston may remember them. They seem like good journalists
> in their own right, BUT the station continually plays the "look at us!
> Isn't it cute that we're married and have three kids?"

E l i s e

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On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:24:06 -0500, IleneB <ile...@shore.net> wrote:

>And then there's "Chet and Nat" here in Boston.
>Chet Curtis and Natalie Jacobson have been married for 25 years, and
>co-anchors on local ABC news. The show has promoted itself as "the
>Channel 5 family" and been all community-focused and all. The anchors
>seem like very nice people, professional, and good (for local news).
>Their one child was followed avidly in the media.
>
>Last week's announcement, a divorce. Channel 5 gulps. 'whoops'

WHAT!?!?!?!? Chet and Nat are foundering on the rocks? Is nothing
sacred? (I first watched them in 1977 while I was a middle-school
student!!!)

That's what I get for watching MUR (NH news) and Weenie-TV (NH/VT
news) and only tuning in to Chet and Nat occasionally. It's still the
best, least sensational local newscast in Boston, but that is sure one
dubious distinction lately.

Are they still going to co-anchor? Or just take turns being "on
assignment"? ;^)

Elise


MRFeathers

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>>Lee Ann, my little butterbean...don't you know those are MEN'S issues? And
>that
>>women don't care if they earn less than men, as long as they have a
>Lactation
>>Room that locks?
>
>Only if the lock works from both sides, so we can lock them IN.

Ha! There's a woman at work who sprogged in October and just came back. Twice
a day she disappears to do the pumping thing. I was discussing this with a
friend:

Me: The whole idea of pumping bre@st milk gives me the heebie jeebies.

Lori: Moooooooooo

I cracked up.

Mary

John & Mari Morgan

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On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:26:25 GMT, ely...@nospamnothanks.tiac.net (E l
i s e ) wrote:

>WHAT!?!?!?!? Chet and Nat are foundering on the rocks? Is nothing
>sacred? (I first watched them in 1977 while I was a middle-school
>student!!!)
>
>That's what I get for watching MUR (NH news) and Weenie-TV (NH/VT
>news) and only tuning in to Chet and Nat occasionally. It's still the
>best, least sensational local newscast in Boston, but that is sure one
>dubious distinction lately.
>
>Are they still going to co-anchor? Or just take turns being "on
>assignment"? ;^)

I normally watch channel 7 (yes, I'm a freak *grin* but channel 4
annoys me and I find channel 5 very dry) but I've watched them on
channel 5 from time to time and they both appear quite amicable about
the whole thing. Last I heard they did intend to continue working
together and are at least faking it very well, if they're not actually
getting along. (The news has been out for a while, maybe a few months,
btw. It really wasn't all that big a deal, just kind of "oh, that
sucks, on to the next thing.")

Mari


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trying to teach a cat to snorkel by providing written instructions.
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John & Mari Morgan

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On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 08:37:22 -0500, Linda Dachtyl
<lind...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I almost walked in on someone doing the "pump thing". I would have rather caught
>someone masturbating as that would have been less "squickish"....
>
>Hmm, perhaps it REALLY is the same thing. Maybe that is the real motivation for
>the t*t-Nazi movement and their fanaticism? I wouldn't be surprised.

I have read quite a few times of women orgasming while they br*astf*d,
because of the nipple stimulation. (Some women are lucky like that. A
tweak or two and they're off like a rocket.) I wouldn't be surprised
if quite a few of the more fanatical-about-bf'ing types are such just
because it's an "appropriate" *snicker* outlet for their sexuality,
for them to get their jollies while doing something serene and
soft-focus (since remember, women aren't _supposed to_ like sweaty,
shrieking sex or anything else involving that dirty stuff Down There).

Personally, I'd MUCH rather walk in on someone honestly masturbating
than m*lkpumping, because masturbation is generally such a wonderfully
self-indulgent act (I don't count forced ejaculation for medical
purposes, like f*rtility testing, as masturbation). People who are not
interested in their own comfort and happiness rarely masturbate - it's
something nice they can do for themselves. BFing and pumping are
so.... martyrized isn't a word, but it fits. "It's allll for the
bayyyyybeeeee." Ptui.

Mari
thanking any and all deities she didn't grow up warped like that

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