Clueless and annoying!!!!!
Ted M.
or 4,run
by me screaming and jumping up and down. Their parents yell at them ,
then in their brilliance they shush them.....of course when it doesn't
work they do it again and again. One might think that after endless
shush and scolding they would realize this museum is not a place for
kids. A miserable experience for all involved, but hey, it was good
they "got that experience".
Ted M.
Seth C. Triggs
Parents must not have found a good place to drop off the sprog, eh?
-Seth
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Ted M.
Parents must not care that everyone else is annoyed by their choices.
When I go to the science museum I expect it to be loud and full of
kids, I don't complain. This was so disrespectful to those wanting to
enjoy the exhibit.
Ted M.
Virginia
"Ted M." wrote:
>
> I am at the Boston Institute of Contemporary Art when two kids about 3
> or 4,run
> by me screaming and jumping up and down.
Yet another example of parental selfishness, and not thinking
about what is an appropriate place for small children.
Note to lurking parents: Parents want to enjoy art. Cool.
Toddlers don't give a rats ass about it. Find a sitter or wait
till your kids can control themselves.
va :)
Caelan
kids DON'T CARE! They're not interested, they don't learn anything.
They're bored and run around because they don't give a rats ass about
fine art or natural history or whatever was in the museum. When
brother and I were small, Mom used to drag us to antique shops..we
would howl and yowl and make ourselves as annoying as possible so we
COULD GO HOME! At least Mom was a PNB who took us home when we
misbehaved rather than try to pretend she didn't hear us. Even so, I
don't know why she insisted on dragging us shopping for HOURS. We
hated it.
Caelan.
Mainesrus
>> shush and scolding they would realize this museum is not a place for
>> kids.
Not a good place for THESE kids--my mum tells a story about my dad throwing his
back out on a trip to the Chicago Art Institute when I was about 6 years old. I
was (and am still) very nearsighted, and apparently I kept asking my poor
father to "pick me up so I can see the pictures". The poor man did weight
lifting reps all the way through the freaking museum.
My mum also tells me that as a toddler, when I saw something really
"fascinating" I'd put my hands in my pockets or clasp them behind my back so I
didn't touch.
My sister, when she felt a "squeal" building up, would put her own hands over
her mouth...what can I say...we were trained right...<g>
Reva
George Dau
]Note to lurking parents: Parents want to enjoy art. Cool.
]Toddlers don't give a rats ass about it. Find a sitter or wait
]till your kids can control themselves.
Leave the kiddies in the car while you go in and enjoy the art.
Solves lots of problems at once.
Rorqhual
"Seth C. Triggs" <vze2...@mail.verizon.net> wrote in message >
> Parents must not have found a good place to drop off the sprog, eh?
>
really think that all the shushing and scolding was anything but an
automatic reaction, the way we carry on listening to music or talking to
somebody, while simultaneously swatting the occasional fly away or brushing
back a stray hair?
I'm sure if you asked those breeders whether they had a good time, they
wouldn't even *remember* what their kids were up to, any more than we would
say 'Well, it was OK talking to Pete, but I had to swat this little green
fly away twice, then there was a medium sized bluebottle (note for the
Aussies in the group - REAL bluebottles fly around and annoy, they don't
hide under the water and try to kill you)
:o)
Voris Tracy Van
<snippees>
> My mum also tells me that as a toddler, when I saw something really
> "fascinating" I'd put my hands in my pockets or clasp them behind my
> back so I didn't touch.
Heck, Reva - I *still* do that today! I don't know where I got that habit
from, either. It's just really, really hard for me to go into a
fabric/craft store or art gallery or pet store and not want to touch.
Just because I *want* to doesn't mean I will - but I can tell you that
whenever I've gone to see any of the major traveling art exhibitions, I go
through the whole museum with my hands behind my back. Yeah, it may be
'kewl' to be able to say that I've touched a Monet or a Van Gogh or a
Rosetti or a Rodin - but NO, NO, NO says that voice in my head called a
conscious.
I don't handle fabric I've no intention of purchasing, and I don't pick up
little kittens I have no intention of adopting, either.
T. - well-trained
Kent
: I don't know why parents bother taking the kids to museums etc. The
: kids DON'T CARE! They're not interested, they don't learn anything.
: They're bored and run around because they don't give a rats ass about
: fine art or natural history or whatever was in the museum.
Well, "natural history"=science, and many kids DO appreciate those museums
(spiders and snakes=KEWL!); I never got tired of the piddly one we used to
have here when I was growing up (recently replaced by a MUCH cooler one, I
hear). I agree about the History stuff though; we got dragged to the state
history museum on school field trips (grew up in the state capital) and I
NEVER cared for any of that stuff.
Kent
Noelle
news:duuh7.6471$t4....@news-reader.ntrnet.net...
Call me weird, then, because I always enjoyed museums. I remember my dad
taking me to the planetarium and museums when I was 5 (that was when I could
identify just about all the dinosaurs and pronounce their names properly).
The only museum I've ever been to that I didn't enjoy was the "Fire Museum"
that we went to one day when we had the choice between where I wanted to go
(the Ripley's Believe It Or Not museum and the Wax museum) and where my
brother wanted to go (the Fire museum).
I'm sure it would have been interesting to some people, but it was a museum
about...firefighting, complete with antique fire engines and displays of
gory color photographs showing the damage that fireworks could do if they
went off in little kiddie hands. Just not my thing.
--
I know but one freedom and that is the freedom of the mind.
--Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
http://www.fastlane.net/~gnoelle
Kent
:>
:> Well, "natural history"=science, and many kids DO appreciate those museums
:> (spiders and snakes=KEWL!); I never got tired of the piddly one we used to
:> have here when I was growing up (recently replaced by a MUCH cooler one, I
:> hear). I agree about the History stuff though; we got dragged to the state
:> history museum on school field trips (grew up in the state capital) and I
:> NEVER cared for any of that stuff.
: Call me weird, then, because I always enjoyed museums. I remember my
: dad taking me to the planetarium and museums when I was 5 (that was when
: I could identify just about all the dinosaurs and pronounce their names
: properly).
Uh, I just finihsed saying that SCIENCE museums (which includes
planetaria, and dinosaurs) are usually what kids like. But "Here's an
exhibit about how the colonists milled grain" and "Look at this silver tea
set that once belonged to the Lt. Governor in 1790" usually aren't.
Kent
Noelle
> Uh, I just finihsed saying that SCIENCE museums (which includes
> planetaria, and dinosaurs) are usually what kids like. But "Here's an
> exhibit about how the colonists milled grain" and "Look at this silver tea
> set that once belonged to the Lt. Governor in 1790" usually aren't.
Eep! Sorry, Kent, I was just piggybacking on your post, not necessarily
responding to the comments that you'd made. I missed the chance to respond
to Caelan's original.
And I guess I'm still weird, because I liked the history stuff, too. :)
ChildfreeinPhilly
"Noelle" <gno...@fastlane.net> wrote in message
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> "Kent" <kmpREM...@pageREMOVEsz.net> wrote in message
> news:duuh7.6471$t4....@news-reader.ntrnet.net...
> > Caelan contributed:
> > : I don't know why parents bother taking the kids to museums etc. The
> > : kids DON'T CARE! They're not interested, they don't learn anything.
> > : They're bored and run around because they don't give a rats ass about
> > : fine art or natural history or whatever was in the museum.
> >
> > Well, "natural history"=science, and many kids DO appreciate those
museums
> > (spiders and snakes=KEWL!); I never got tired of the piddly one we used
to
> > have here when I was growing up (recently replaced by a MUCH cooler one,
I
> > hear).
OMG, you kidding me? I used to LOVE to go to the Walters Art Museum in
Baltimore (http://www.thewalters.org/), The Baltimore Musuem of Art
(http://www.artbma.org/) and heading down to DC to the Smithsonian
(http://www.si.edu/info/education.htm). LOVE IT as a kid! I think what is
missing with some (or even most) kids is that there is a lack of
"appreciation" for fine art and history. I grew up in a conservative home
where reading, art (or being artistic) and appreciation of such things was
encouraged. Plus, I just like learning about things. The problem also is
that some parents think that they can just take the kid (s) to the art
gallery/museum, and that they'll automatically like the culture. One would
have had to introduce it to them first, and see how receptive they are to
it.
I think this is why many museums try to cater to the childed a lot, to bring
in more of the youngings, and try to build up interests.
Ah...one of the last things that I did before leaving the Baltimore area
(sniff!) was to go to the BMA with my parents to see an exhibt of African
Art. It was amazing. *sighs wistfully*
'ladysyc'
Ted M.
Children's toys, that way "everyone" will be happy, you have some
crayons and paper next to the Monet while in the background the theme
from Looney Tunes plays.
Ted M.
Mouse
Solves lots of problems at once.
It solves exactly two problems - no whining while trying to enjoy
Monet, and no kids when you get back to the car - just Li'l Sizzlers
awaiting you...
Pat
>On 24 Aug 2001, Mainesrus wrote:
><snippees>
>> My mum also tells me that as a toddler, when I saw something really
>> "fascinating" I'd put my hands in my pockets or clasp them behind my
>> back so I didn't touch.
>
>Heck, Reva - I *still* do that today! I don't know where I got that habit
>from, either.
Ditto and I can tell you where I got the habit. Mom. <g> She made me
put my hands behind my back so that it wouldn't be as easy for me to
be tempted. And I know other people who were trained the same way and
who still do it. Conditioning!
Mainesrus
>put my hands behind my back so that it wouldn't be as easy for me to
>be tempted. And I know other people who were trained the same way and
>who still do it. Conditioning!
Funny thing is that I have very clear memories of my very early years. Those
memories certainly do NOT include having been horribly abused by my parents.
I asked my Mum about this and she told me that she did NOT train me to do that,
but rather removed me from situations where I couldn't manage not to touch
things that weren't my own. She DID tell me that if "I wanted to stay wherever,
I was not allowed to touch." She says I taught myself to "restrain my hands" in
order to avoid the consequences of being made to leave wherever exciting and
interesting she'd taken me.
Reva
Brenda Nelson
My mom tells the story of coming upon me shortly before my first
birthday, sitting in front of the living room coffee table upon which
were two ceramic kittens, which I dearly loved but was not allowed to
touch. According to Mom, I would first slap my right hand and say,
"No-no, don't touch!" then do the same with my left hand. Apparently
this went on for some minutes.
No memories of horrible child abuse from me, either. Unless having to
help with the chores counts. ;-P
Brenda "Who Now Has All the Kittens She Wants" Nelson, A.A. #34
sky...@dakotacom.net
Corine Kling
Noelle wrote:
Well then, I'm also weird because my mom would take me to the Met, which I
really enjoyed (the Egyptian wing, ooh) , and to the Museum of Natural History,
mandatory stops beneath the blue whale and by the slice of redwood tree. And I
truly hope that I behaved well, but I'm also sure that Mom kept me in line!
Cori