I'm such a wimp! [Delurk]
AJ
Sticks to all interested parties] and, although I don't have a problem
with kids in general, displays of obvious lack of parental
responsibility make me crazy.
So I was in Kroger's yesterday, picking up some noshables on the way
home from work, and I come around the corner to see a toddler grab a box
of Hostess Sugarfilled Somethings off a display table and proceed to rip
the box open (as in rip the cardboard, not just open the flap) and pull
out a (thankfully individually wrapped) goodie from inside. It wasn't
until this point that mummie turned around to notice him. To her (and
his) credit, he started to protest loudly but desisted immediately when
she quietly told him no.
I figured at this point that we had a slightly distracted PNB on our
hands, which I can easily forgive, but that illusion was quickly
shattered when she picked up the kid, *put the ripped box and loose
snackpack back on the display table* and walked away, crooning. Didn't
it used to be "you break it, you bought it"? If I had ever so much as
accidentally bent a box corner or dented a can in a store you can bet
that item would have gone home, bought and paid for!
Unfortunately, having been brought up to be a good little 'don't make
waves' kinda co-dependent amerikun female, I stood by and watched,
without saying a word or even getting in a good 'hairy eyeball'. I was
hoping that hanging around you guys would have rubbed off on me a little
by now. I guess I'll just have to stick around a while longer and see
what happens next time.
Thanks for making this a great space to vent.
AJ
dph...@my-deja.com
Welcome. Don't worry about the missed opportunity, another
example of such behavior is right around the corner.
Now that you have de-lurked (with appropriate offerings),
how about some info about yourself ?
--
--dph.
(preferred email: dhayes AT iname DOT com)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
hepron
sit down a bit and tell us about yourself. We want details!!! : )
AJ
Well, I'm not one of those rich CFs you've been hearing so much about
lately. I'm an underpaid reasearch technician at a public University,
but I'm doing a job I love in a lab full of people I really like so I
accept the trade-off of driving a 10 year old car and not buying
nearly
as many books as I'd like. I'm rapidly approaching the dreaded 35-50
demographic (we're talking a matter of weeks here), although the coda
to
the Kroger story is that when I checked out with a bottle of wine in
my
order I was seriously carded (not just "we have to ask if you look
younger than 80" kind of thing) and really surprised the cashier when
he
saw my DOB <grin>.
As far as being CF goes, I've been very lucky. I come from a large and
very accepting family and I never really had to think about it much.
None of my blood relatives has ever asked me when I'm having kids (it
probably helps that I'm single, although that never stopped anyone
else
in the family!) but I do occasionally get it from my brother's wife
(and
*her sister* of all people to be interested in my reproductive
choices!). Growing up, I was never babee crazee. It never occured to
me
that I could *not want* kids, but I always said "I only want one,
that's
all I could handle." I've always known I don't have the patience to be
around non-reasoning beings 24/7. Heck, as much as I want a *dog*, I
know I don't have the time for one!
I firmly believe in the existence of PNBs and, as heretical as it may
sound, I even believe that they outnumber the BNPs (although that
margin
seems to be shrinking). But then I've always been a cross-eyed
optimist.
My brother and SIL are sterling examples. They told their two girls
(they both wanted more, but knew they couldn't afford them, so he got
snipped right after #2 - this is what's known as 'responsibility',
kiddies) straight out and in so many words from the time they were
toddlers that if they were brats, no one would want to be around them,
including their parents. "Emotional abuse!" I hear the modern parunts
cry! Nope. Those kids got all the love and attention they could
possibly
want *because they were a pleasure to be around*. They knew that their
parents and family loved them and they understood that when they were
told "no means no because I said so", it was for their own good and
they
listened.
I made a deal with my bro and SIL when the girls were little: I get to
borrow them whenever I want someone to buy toys for, play Hungry
Hungry
Hippos with or read a bedtime story to, and they get to stay up for
all
night feedings, drive to ballet and pay for college and orthodontia.
Heck, I even offered to change a few diapers early on! I think it was
a
fair deal. They are now both teenagers and are two of the most well
adjusted, self confident, mature kids I've ever known. I love being
the
crazy aunt with all the weird friends and being able to corrupt them!
Wow! I do tend to ramble once I get started, don't I? Sorry for the
verbosity, it's kind of a floodgate thing. I've lurked for so long I
feel like I know youse guys. I'll shut up now and let someone more
interesting take over.
AJ [who will now pass around the Ghirardelli squares and shut up
shuttin' up]
"I don't buy everything I read, I haven't even read everything I've
bought" - Steven Page
L K Larkins
Mark Langsdorf
>Well, I'm not one of those rich CFs you've been hearing so much
about
>lately. I'm an underpaid reasearch technician at a public
University,
>but I'm doing a job I love in a lab full of people I really like
so I
>accept the trade-off of driving a 10 year old car and not buying
>nearly
>as many books as I'd like. I'm rapidly approaching the dreaded
35-50
>demographic
I know you might be shocked, but there's a fair number of
people here who are already in that demographic, and most of them
seem to be enjoying it quite a bit.
I don't mean to be nosy, but roughly where do you live? I
keep thinking that Kroger's is a Houston chain, but I may be
getting confused. I'm mostly curious because I'm keeping an
email list of CF people in Texas, and I'd like to add you if
you're one of us.
-Mark Langsdorf
Austin No Kidding!
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inscribed, in words of cybernetic fire:
>snip great intro<
>AJ [who will now pass around the Ghirardelli squares and shut up
>shuttin' up]
*snarf* Thank you, and welcome! ;-)
>"I don't buy everything I read, I haven't even read everything I've
>bought" - Steven Page
Steven Page, as in Barenaked-Ladies-singer,
one-of-the-best-vocalists-I've-ever-heard Steven Page? Gawd *damn* I
love this group! (Even if it's not him, it's still a great quote--as
you've no doubt noticed, this is a heavily literate crowd...)
---JesterKat
scott...@my-deja.com
> So I was in Kroger's yesterday, picking up some noshables on the way
For those of you who are unfamiliar woth Krogers it's a grocery store.
>I come around the corner to see a toddler grab a box
> of Hostess Sugarfilled Somethings off a display table and proceed to
rip
> the box open (as in rip the cardboard, not just open the flap
....
> she picked up the kid, *put the ripped box and loose
> snackpack back on the display table* and walked away, crooning. Didn't
> it used to be "you break it, you bought it"? If I had ever so much as
> accidentally bent a box corner or dented a can in a store you can bet
> that item would have gone home, bought and paid for!
>
> Unfortunately, having been brought up to be a good little 'don't make
> waves' kinda co-dependent amerikun female, I stood by and watched,
> without saying a word or even getting in a good 'hairy eyeball'. I was
> hoping that hanging around you guys would have rubbed off on me a
little
> by now.
OK, for future reference:
1. pick it up and put it in their cart and say something to them.
2. Get store manager and explain the situation.
3. Say something; the ruder and louder the better.
Kent
: I don't mean to be nosy, but roughly where do you live? I
: keep thinking that Kroger's is a Houston chain, but I may be
: getting confused. I'm mostly curious because I'm keeping an
: email list of CF people in Texas, and I'd like to add you if
: you're one of us.
You didn't REALLY ask me, but we have Kroger all over NC.
Kent
Mark Langsdorf
Doh! Like I said, I may be getting confused.
-Mark Langsdorf
Jodi
>Well, I'm not one of those rich CFs you've been hearing so much about
>lately. I'm an underpaid reasearch technician at a public University,
>but I'm doing a job I love in a lab full of people I really like so I
>accept the trade-off of driving a 10 year old car and not buying
>nearly
>as many books as I'd like.
Join the club! SO is the IT and safety guy for a university department,
and also earns a pittance to do something he likes in a pleasant work
environment.
I'm chronically ill so I do secretarial work when I can.
We're poor. No doubt about it.
The point is, we have no kids! Being poor is nobody's business but
ours, and as long as we can pay our bills and feed the zoo, it stays
that way!
I'm supposed to be looking for more profitable employment, but feel too
crappy to send off many CVs.
Jodi
Rat & Swan
> Welcome. Don't worry about the missed opportunity, another
> example of such behavior is right around the corner.
Maybe it's a little early yet for the WWSD bracelet. :)
Swan
"What Would SWAN Do?"
Snicker!
JesterKat
inscribed, in words of cybernetic fire:
>Maybe it's a little early yet for the WWSD bracelet. :)
>
>Swan
>
>"What Would SWAN Do?"
>
>Snicker!
Ooooh, IwantoneIwantoneIwantone! ;-)
---JesterKat, who thinks this would be (to quote Winnie-the-Pooh) a
Very Useful Thing
Ron Sullivan
>
> Maybe it's a little early yet for the WWSD bracelet. :)
>
> Swan
>
> "What Would SWAN Do?"
>
> Snicker!
However, I have of late been seeing "What Would Xena Do?"
bumperstickers hereabouts.
Ron ("HeeeeeeYAH!")
AJ
>Before exiting, pursued by a bear on Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:17:51 -0400,
>in alt.support.childfree, L K Larkins <llar...@umich.edu> had time to
>say:
Just wanted to clarify, this was actually me. I use a shared computer
at work and forgot to change the user settings. I thought I had
cancelled the post before it got out but I guess it wasn't fast
enough. GRR! Time to start switching to Free Agent to post with...
AJ
AJ
<mark.langsd...@amd.com.invalid> wrote:
>alexa...@hotmail.com (AJ) wrote:
>
<snip>
. I'm rapidly approaching the dreaded
>35-50
>>demographic
>
> I know you might be shocked, but there's a fair number of
>people here who are already in that demographic, and most of them
>seem to be enjoying it quite a bit.
Not shocked. I really don't have a problem with growing older (it's a
darn sight better than the alternative), I just refuse to grow up and
when you get to 'a certain age' people expect you to be all, like,
serious and stuff!
> I don't mean to be nosy, but roughly where do you live? I
>keep thinking that Kroger's is a Houston chain,
I'm in Michigan. Kroger's is apparently everywhere these days.
AJ
<jest...@lostmymindspring.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 23:42:03 GMT, alexa...@hotmail.com (AJ)
>inscribed, in words of cybernetic fire:
>
>>snip great intro<
>
>>AJ [who will now pass around the Ghirardelli squares and shut up
>>shuttin' up]
>
>*snarf* Thank you, and welcome! ;-)
>
>>"I don't buy everything I read, I haven't even read everything I've
>>bought" - Steven Page
>
>Steven Page, as in Barenaked-Ladies-singer,
>one-of-the-best-vocalists-I've-ever-heard Steven Page? Gawd *damn* I
>love this group! (Even if it's not him, it's still a great quote--as
>you've no doubt noticed, this is a heavily literate crowd...)
>
>---JesterKat
The very same. As my friends will testify, I have turned into a
giggling, stammering teenage fangirl over BNL over the last three
years or so, especially Steve. He has all the qualities of my perfect
man: intelligent, slightly chubby with glasses, down to earth smile
and expressive eyes, incredible (warped) sense of humor, amazing
music/poetry writing/comedy improv skills, orgasm-indicing vocal
abilities, and, according to a recent issue of WineX magazine, *he
cooks too*! Swoon! Unfortunately, he's taken. Ah well.
The quote, BTW, is from the song "This Is Where It Ends" which also
provided another of my favorite lines: "Mental health is overrated".
OK, I'll stop gushing now. I can (and often do) drive my friends a bit
nutso with BNL discussion...
AJ [who is waiting very *im*patiently for September 12th,
thankyouverymuch!]
Marie Braden
wrote:
And on Ebay, someone was selling "what would Dawn do?"
bracelets...referring to those dolls I collect.
---
Marie Braden
Bitburg, Germany
"Sometimes it's difficult having sympathy with everyone's point of view"
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hepron
"Ginny" wrote in message >
> I draw the line (maybe) at getting a "What Would Daffy Do"
> bumpersticker. I know what he would do,
> he would go "woo-woo! woo-woo! woo-woo!"
>
>
Actually out of all the WW_D suggestions that is the one I REALLY like. If I
ever find one it is on my car.
tibbi
<hep...@home.com> wrote:
Just asked DH if he had any suggestions for a good "what would"
bumpersticker, and his is:
"What Would Feynman Do?"
http://www.scs-intl.com/online/
(for those interested)
Joy
Jeri Jo Thomas <kata...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.13f7d302a...@news.earthlink.net...
> Ginny said ...
>
> Q:Maybe us Highlander fans could have "What Would Duncan Do"
> Q:bumperstickers.
> Q:
> Heck, we know what Duncan would do. SCHIIIIINNNNG!!!
>
> Hey, have you seen the trailer for H4?
I was just at the WizardWorld Comicon in Chicago this weekend, and I was
able to catch most of it. It made me, uh, twitch... The guys running the
trailer booth were mightily amused at the reactions the roomie and I had to
it... I like both Christopher Lambert and Adrian Paul, and to see them in
costumes, with swords... <sigh> I don't know how I'm going to survive the
whole movie without an extra towel to mop up the drool and such-like...
~ Joy
... still in love with Ray Park, also a little smitten with Tyler Mane
D. Dietz / S. Franz
a lot of x-tian concept, but the first time I saw the WWJCD? thing I
almost gagged.
We we're on the road, in a Cracker Barrell
restaurant, so we deserved it. Sat over our snax after "the revelation"
and made "WW" jokes. The winner...............WWVIDT!
.....................(wait for it).........................
"What Would Vlad The Impaler Do?"
"I'm bullish on sanity"
Setting new standards Yardstick of
in mental health SANITY
since 1952... For the
Americas
nosprogs
by my loud and crude mouth and dislike for sproggen! I am very
glad that my husband likes to do the grocery shopping because I
am not good at just "ignoring" the uncivilized brats and the
ignorant breeders. I definately make comments that they DO hear
and I have the evil eye down to a tee.
JesterKat
inscribed, in words of cybernetic fire, regarding Steven Page of the
Baremaked Ladies:
> Unfortunately, he's taken. Ah well.
Even more unfortunately, he's sprogged at least twice...
>The quote, BTW, is from the song "This Is Where It Ends" which also
>provided another of my favorite lines: "Mental health is overrated".
My own favorite would have to be one from the other singer/songwriter,
Ed Robertson: "I have a tendency to wear my mind on my sleeve/I have a
history of losing my shirt." ("One Week")
>AJ [who is waiting very *im*patiently for September 12th,
>thankyouverymuch!]
Oh, me too. It's long past time for some new stuff. ;-)
---JesterKat
Joy
Ginny <red57...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >~ Joy
> >... still in love with Ray Park, also a little smitten with Tyler Mane
>
Uh, yeah. Several times in fact. <sheepish grin> Although he's not nearly as
studly as Toad than he was as Maul (which is to say, Toad's not studly in
the least.) Course, I thought he was terribly studly as the Headless
Horseman in "Sleepy Hollow" (all the ground HH stuff was his. Damn sexy for
a guy with no head...)
There was some sprog stuff at the con I posted this morning, but I haven't
seen it yet. If another hour or so goes by, I may repost it. There was a
pretty heinous sprog incident.
~ Joy...
... humongous geek...
Cheryl M Greer
Ginny <red57...@aol.com> wrote:
>Before exiting, pursued by a bear on Tue, 08 Aug 2000 05:18:56 GMT, in
>alt.support.childfree, "Joy" <Naug...@att.net> had time to say:
>
>>Uh, yeah. Several times in fact. <sheepish grin> Although he's not nearly as
>>studly as Toad than he was as Maul (which is to say, Toad's not studly in
>
>a very Darth Maulish pose? My friends and I were the *only* ones who
>got it.
I got it! Ray Park is cool, but howsabout that Hugh Jackman? WHOA. I
can't believe they went and made nasty old Wolverine that sexy. It's
wrong, i tell ya! I had to see X-Men twice to leer at the dude, and I feel
rather dirty. Wolvie isn't supposed to be sexy! Oh well... :)
And Ian McKellan was yummy as well (yes, I know he's gay).
Cheryl
not ordinarily an X-fan
Joy
Cheryl M Greer <vici...@pitt.edu> wrote:
> I got it! Ray Park is cool, but howsabout that Hugh Jackman? WHOA. I
> can't believe they went and made nasty old Wolverine that sexy. It's
> wrong, i tell ya! I had to see X-Men twice to leer at the dude, and I feel
> rather dirty. Wolvie isn't supposed to be sexy! Oh well... :)
> And Ian McKellan was yummy as well (yes, I know he's gay).
That film was just soooo full of beefcake... the question everyone was
asking Tyler Mane and Ray Park during their Q&A's at the con was "Who'd win
in a fight? You or <insert co-star's name here>?" Lame, lame, lame, but they
answered the questions politely every time. I should have asked, "Out of all
the XMen and Brotherhood of Mutants, who'd win in a wet t-shirt contest?"
<drool>.
I was very sad to see that Jackman and his wife had just acquired a sprog,
but at least they chose one from existing stock, rather than making a new
one. We'll forgive them the name "Oscar", just for that shirtless-cage-match
scene.
~ Joy
... big dork
Joy
Ginny <red57...@aol.com> wrote in message > >a guy with no head...)
>
> And did you like the part when he whipped that pipe around his head in
> a very Darth Maulish pose? My friends and I were the *only* ones who
> got it.
Yeah, the roomie and I giggle every time we see that. He explained it was a
flourish he always wanted to end with when he was playing Darth Maul, but he
couldn't, since he would have (theoretically) cut his arm off with the
lightsaber.
I enjoy seeing that movie, but it seems every time we go, it gets worse with
rude people and their ruder offspring. Last time, we took De's parents, who
like to sit in the back to cut down on the crap they have to hear from
sprogs. Naturally, a group of 5 or so 12-y.o.s sat down at the end of the
row with the express purpose of pissing us off. They were loud, stupid,
nasty and rude. We "shhhh'd" them, and they periodically giggled and "shhhd"
eachother loudly. Fuckers. De's dad told em to shut up, and then stared at
them. He's somewhat intimidating, so they were relatively tame the rest of
the show. Wish my look of death were that good.
~ Joy...
"...lunchboxes for Sith Lords is one thing, but let me know if I'm ever at
the PotHolders for Klingons stage, OK?"
The Lemming
*happy dance*
Parcel not arrived yet though... ;-)
The Lemming
x
:-)
In Your Face, Space Coyote!
JesterKat <jest...@lostmymindspring.com> wrote in message
news:29luosol07575uhke...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 06 Aug 2000 03:03:21 GMT, alexa...@hotmail.com (AJ)
> inscribed, in words of cybernetic fire, regarding Steven Page of the
> Baremaked Ladies:
>
Rat & Swan
> >Maybe it's a little early yet for the WWSD bracelet. :)
> >Swan
> >"What Would SWAN Do?"
> >Snicker!
> Ooooh, IwantoneIwantoneIwantone! ;-)
> ---JesterKat, who thinks this would be (to quote Winnie-the-Pooh) a
> Very Useful Thing
You know, I've been thinking of this! :) It started me wondering if I
could do a nifty cartoon and put it on a tee shirt for the childfree.
ANYONE who has access to tee shirt transfer technology, let me know.
I did a rough of the cartoon and will work on refining it to a good
illo. It shows me, in my trademark three piece suit (lapel vest and silk
cravat) leaning against something (I haven't decided yet, but the grille
of a Rolls Royce appeals) casually tossing and catching a baby's
pacifier or a piece of candy. In front of me is a messy, dripping infant
wailint away in a full blown tantrum. On my face is a vicious grin as I
contemplate all the hideous things I could do to the unattended
criblizard. Int he distance is the sillhouette of a mother calling for
her calf. The caption would be (natch!) "What Would SWAN Do?" and on
the bottom in smaller letters it would say alt.support.childfree and
alt.support.childfree.moderated Set Yourself Free.
Or something like that.
Would anyone like to do this? I don't have the cash to do it, and I'm
not certain my eyesight will permit me to do a cartoon as slick as I
used to be able to do. If I cannot, I might ask any of our talented
illustrators or animators if they could work something up from my rough.
Would this be a total kick? A childfree tee shirt that WE designed and
sold?
Alternatively, qwe could do one that reads (wait for it..)
"What would PETE Do?"
Pete can suggest what HE would want as an illo! :)
Any other suggestions are eagerly entertained! Bumperstickers, other
designs (I don't want to seem hubristic! I don't necessarily need it to
be MY name and face on there!)
Let's see if this will fly!
Swan
Dora Robinson
Your local CF decorated apparel specialist at your command.
I will be going to Hollister August 17 and returning August 19.
I will be more than happy to go to Hollister via the "northern route" or
return via "northern route."
Please email me privately and we will make arrangements.
I am an embroidery designer and have 7 years graphic experience and I also
work closely with screen printers. I will be happy to donate my graphic and
design end of it. I can turn your rough into camera-ready art and set it
up for embroidery or send to one of my screen-printers.
Let's get together.
Yours,
Dora Robinson
EMBROIDESIGNS
Marie Braden
>could do a nifty cartoon and put it on a tee shirt for the childfree.
>ANYONE who has access to tee shirt transfer technology, let me know.
transfer technology? I wish! No screening equipment here. I have,
however, had good successes with my inkjet and the transfer
paper....seems to work best for smaller, spot art, rather than a huge
design.....Basically, the breast-pocket area, and then a line of text
on the back, rather then the "blown-up baseball card" look of some
T-shirts.
>illo. It shows me, in my trademark three piece suit (lapel vest and silk
>cravat) leaning against something (I haven't decided yet, but the grille
>of a Rolls Royce appeals) casually tossing and catching a baby's
>pacifier or a piece of candy. In front of me is a messy, dripping infant
>wailint away in a full blown tantrum. On my face is a vicious grin as I
>contemplate all the hideous things I could do to the unattended
>criblizard. Int he distance is the sillhouette of a mother calling for
>her calf. The caption would be (natch!) "What Would SWAN Do?" and on
>the bottom in smaller letters it would say alt.support.childfree and
>alt.support.childfree.moderated Set Yourself Free.
Hmmm...simplify it a bit to make it work well in a reduced
size....maybe remove the silhouette as extraneous. Most T-shirt
designs work best with strong lines and not a lot of shading.....And
for some reason, I got a visual of you twirling the pacifier on your
finger, just out of reach of the snotrocket....hmmm...shame I can't
draw....
Then over the image, curved, What would SWAN do? And on the back, the
three lines of text: Set Yourself
Free/Alt.support.childfree/alt.support.childfree.moderated
Not that I've ever spent time putting together T-shirt designs.....LOL
>Would this be a total kick? A childfree tee shirt that WE designed and
>sold?
With fundage after costs going to Planned Parenthood? LOL. Of course,
if it was done via the transfer-paper method I was referring to,
people could just print their own if you made the graphic available to
them...
>Any other suggestions are eagerly entertained! Bumperstickers, other
>designs (I don't want to seem hubristic! I don't necessarily need it to
>be MY name and face on there!)
>
>Let's see if this will fly!
I love the "Set Yourself Free" phrase....it's really perfect.
O'course, I can visualize a whole line of 'em...Pete smacking a
snotrocket over the head with a guitar (think Pete Townshend), Jason
peering out of a Miata as a chiyuld coughs from the exhaust as he
drives off, etc.....and then maybe a more-generic graphic, not so
personality dependent....(for some reason I am visualizing Mari in
combat boots....LOL).....Like a street sign that says "No Sprogs" or
something like that....
Dora Robinson
I'm going to see my screen printer tomorrow and he's 1/2 way to Livermore.
Send me an email if August 10 isn't too soon for ya!
Dora
Rat & Swan
keep me in mind. I will work on the design and try to get something good
together maybe later on.
Thank you! Oh, and Livermore is now no longer my town of residence. I'm
in the east Bay Delta area, now. Email me privately and we can go over
details.
Swan
>
> Dora
John & Mari Morgan
wrote:
>(for some reason I am visualizing Mari in combat boots....LOL)
*bwahahahahahaha*
I have never, ever owned a pair of combat boots. Closest I ever got
were redneck boots - those yellow suede workboots with the thick beige
lugged sole and the dark brown top collar. Putting combat boots on me
would be like putting a lace bonnet on a moose!
Mari
washu
you we a wimp. Really, we don't have rules for such breaking of
responsible behavior. Maybe notifying the manager about such
behavior, but that's about it.
There's a grocery term called "spillage". It mostly refers to
people spilling or sampling food from produce and dry goods
which have scoops, but I guess it also refers to other damaged
goods (eg. dented cans!).
Probably the only good news is that if it happens enough, it
won't be profitable (money talks, ethics walks) to put "kid-
attractive" stuff out there.
Now. Where's that Karma thread? (:
Washu! ^O^
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Rat & Swan
>
> On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 13:09:18 -0700, Dora Robinson
> <embroi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >I am an embroidery designer and have 7 years graphic experience and I also
> >work closely with screen printers. I will be happy to donate my graphic and
> >design end of it. I can turn your rough into camera-ready art and set it
> >up for embroidery or send to one of my screen-printers.
> >
> with my biz logo on them, and I've seen her desgin book as well.
>
> Elise
I've had the great good fortune to talk to Dora on the phone today! We
will be meeting up next week and I'll have some roughs for her to play
with.
OK, folks! This thing is thinkin' of gettin' off the ground! WE will
work on a good design and what to put it on (Tee shirts, staind glass
windows, neckties, condoms!) and we'll see what happens!
As someone commented that IO am the Resident Famous Columnist, I thought
I'd interject that I just signed a new contract with Halfthe planet.com
and will go to a shorter, monthly column. But at a higher rate of pay!
Also, I'm negotiating a contract with PanGaia Magazine as well. Life is
definitely looking GOOD!
We'll keep you abreast of the details.
Swan
Rat & Swan
>
> There's a grocery term called "spillage". It mostly refers to
> people spilling or sampling food from produce and dry goods
> which have scoops, but I guess it also refers to other damaged
> goods (eg. dented cans!).
>
> Probably the only good news is that if it happens enough, it
> won't be profitable (money talks, ethics walks) to put "kid-
> attractive" stuff out there.
Sampling produce. I learned from a grocer that it is actually OK to
sample ONE grape from a bunch to see if they are good. They expect that.
I make a firm point of buying the bunch I sample from and limiting my
sampling to ONE grape. Period. I will never 'sample' from bins if I can
help it because I don't know what has gone into them (sticky sprog
fingers, saliva ech!)
What really crisps my toast is seeing half empty packages, opened soda
cans and other signs of people munching their way down the aisles! On
the rare occasion that I am VERY thirsty or hungry, I will actually take
an item to the ten or less checkout, buy it, eat it outside and return
to my shopping! For some reason, I cannot eat anything IN a store.
I'm also the sort who will , upon dropping or denting an item, put it in
my cart and buy it! My grandmother dinned it into my sorry skull that
"You break/eat/damage/open it, you've BOUGHT it! Yeesh! It's worse than
being Catholic! :)
Some people have guilt trips on religion or sex. Mine is grocery
shopping! And YES, it DOES come from being dragged back in and made to
pay for (and apologize for) a shoplifted piece of candy! That little
lesson STUCK with me! I remember the store, the item, the day, my age,
how I felt! Ouch!
Swan
Still sometimes looking over my shoulder for the cops...
E l i s e
Noelle
news:399230...@pacbell.net...
> E l i s e wrote:
> >
> will be meeting up next week and I'll have some roughs for her to play
> with.
>
> OK, folks! This thing is thinkin' of gettin' off the ground! WE will
> work on a good design and what to put it on (Tee shirts, staind glass
> windows, neckties, condoms!) and we'll see what happens!
>
> As someone commented that IO am the Resident Famous Columnist, I thought
> I'd interject that I just signed a new contract with Halfthe planet.com
> and will go to a shorter, monthly column. But at a higher rate of pay!
> Also, I'm negotiating a contract with PanGaia Magazine as well. Life is
> definitely looking GOOD!
>
> We'll keep you abreast of the details.
Put me down for a T-shirt for sure, and definitely keep us abreast!
Then again, I like unusual/thoughtprovoking/controversial slogans and/or
designs on T-shirts.
Some of my T-shirts:
* A PETA T-shirt with an earth as seen from space, except the continents are
made of red, marbled meat, and a big bite is taken out of the earth. The
caption says: "Think you can be a meat-eating environmentalist? Think
again."
* A Neal Boortz Show "Blah, blah, blah" shirt
* A David Bowie "Aladdin Sane" shirt
* A Church of Euthanasia "Thank you for not breeding" shirt
* A shirt which reads "Laoch Ceilteach" (Celtic Warrior)
* A shirt precisely the color of chocolate milk, with a cool black Celtic
design over the left breast area
* A shirt with a black cow silhouette crossed out by a red "not" circle on
the front, and the words, "Don't Have a Cow: Go Vegetarian" on the back
* A lime-green, tie-dyed T-shirt with a Jethro Tull logo and the creature
from the cover of their album "The Broadsword and the Beast"
* And, a shirt that I'm bidding on, on Ebay, and hope to win (it looks good
so far): an Asterix T-shirt featuring a stylistic design of Asterix and
Obelix facing each other down.
* This one's not really mine, but my husband's, and it came from Goodwill: a
black T-shirt with a bizarre design in white. A creature's face of some sort
is made from altered photographs of three human eyes and a mouth. Hands
reach toward a giant asterisk over the creature's head, and the slogan says
"Midnight Twisters." We have no idea what it means. It was too weird to pass
up, and anyway it only cost a dollar.
What are some of YOUR unusual T-shirts?
Noelle, loving double-takes
Monica
> What are some of YOUR unusual T-shirts?
Hmmm... let's see
*The one I'm wearing now, black with white writing: "I survived
Catholic School." (I inherited it from my Dad when it shrunk.)
*A white shirt with an anime-type naked woman with two long braids
sitting down with her hands over her "southern region", and the caption
"Taboo" on top. (A gift from one of my BIL's)
* A white 20th Anniversary Good Vibrations T-shirt
* A black Rocky Horror Picture Show t-shirt. Front: "The Lips" and the
logo. On the back, the "Enter At Your Own Risk" sign from the movie
* A red t-shirt that says, "What part of http://www.getalife.com don't
you understand? (DH has one that says www.s*ckmyd!ck.com)
* A Lucky Charms t-shirt (red)
I probably have a few other unusual ones, but most of 'em are in
storage at my folks' place.
-Monica L.
Cheryl M Greer
>I did a rough of the cartoon and will work on refining it to a good
>cravat) leaning against something (I haven't decided yet, but the grille
>of a Rolls Royce appeals) casually tossing and catching a baby's
>pacifier or a piece of candy. In front of me is a messy, dripping infant
>wailint away in a full blown tantrum. On my face is a vicious grin as I
>contemplate all the hideous things I could do to the unattended
>criblizard. Int he distance is the sillhouette of a mother calling for
>her calf. The caption would be (natch!) "What Would SWAN Do?" and on
>the bottom in smaller letters it would say alt.support.childfree and
>alt.support.childfree.moderated Set Yourself Free.
Ooh, neat! I wish I was a better cartoonist, I'd volunteer. But I DO
know that other newsgroups (rec.food.cooking) have had sucess in getting
t-shirts printed up and sold. I've been in charge of custom t-shirt
buying for committees at work, and the company we ordered from will do
shirts with print on both sides for about $10/shirt. (This is if you use
only one color of ink in the design). I believe if you order more shirts,
the cost goes down.
Anyway, I'd be first in line for asc gear, and will help in any way
possible. Hey! Here's a thought: maybe we could contact that cartoonist
who hangs out here (Nina someone?) and she if she would grant permission
for one of her 'toons to be reproduced on a shirt, or if she would design
one just for the purpose? Is anyone chummy with her?
Cheryl
Ilona
"E l i s e " <ely...@nospamnothanks.tiac.net> wrote in message
news:3996213e....@news.tiac.net...
> On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 13:09:18 -0700, Dora Robinson
> <embroi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >I am an embroidery designer and have 7 years graphic experience and I
also
> >work closely with screen printers. I will be happy to donate my graphic
and
> >design end of it. I can turn your rough into camera-ready art and set
it
> >up for embroidery or send to one of my screen-printers.
> >
> Just my $.02...Dora's embroidery *rocks*. She did up some patches
> with my biz logo on them, and I've seen her desgin book as well.
I'll have to "ditto" that one ... Dora sent me a hat last year with "2bal by
2K" on it before my tubal in Nov ... and yes, I did wear it out of the
house, and no, I didn't get any comments on it .... people are dense ...
maybe I can hope it was a subliminal message.
hehehe
Dora Robinson
> > Just my $.02...Dora's embroidery *rocks*. She did up some patches
> > with my biz logo on them, and I've seen her desgin book as well.
>
> I'll have to "ditto" that one ... Dora sent me a hat last year with "2bal by
> 2K" on it before my tubal in Nov ... and yes, I did wear it out of the
> house, and no, I didn't get any comments on it .... people are dense ...
> maybe I can hope it was a subliminal message.
>
> hehehe
Thanks guys for the plug. I will be seeing Swan August 17 or 19 and we'll get
this rolling. Glad you did wear the hat out of the house ;-)
Told you Elise: I'll be on that roadtrip with a car full of CF T's yet!
I guess I'll have to make a WWDD (What Would Dora Do?) with a woman in the
gyno's office and he says, "well, you're infertile!" and the woman says "so? I
want BC anyways!!" And I'll trudge out of the office with an IUD and a stack of
BC pills in one hand and my ripped out tubes and ovaries in the other. ;-)
Dora
"just wanna be sure"
Rat & Swan
> What are some of YOUR unusual T-shirts?
>
> Noelle, loving double-takes
Well, having JUST unpacked manyseveral of them, here's a rundown.
Rare T-shirts:
An original Revenge o the Jedi shirt from lucasfilm. These were
discontinued after the title change to Return.
An original Rocky Horror Show T. BEFORE the movie came out! VERY old.
An original 'Death Records' T from Phantom of the Paradise. I have
several more newer ones that I wear.
A Snake Pliisken T with the illo from our fanzine. The artwork hangs in
the computer room at Swanage.
A 1984 Olympics T advertising the Los Angeles Central Jail. (from my
ex.)
An ancient (from 1968) Foundation for the Junior Blind T shirt.
A Ross Perot for President T shirt.
Unusual T shirts:
Manyseveral beer ad T shirts.
An LA in 84 Rat T shirt (concom got those)
Flame red Dykes From Hell T shirt
BEautiful green FAT LADY RESTAURANT (in Oakland) T shirt
"I Survived the 1989 Loma Prieta Earthquake" Which I wear on each
anniversary of the quake! Tradition!
Homemade Swan Song logo T shirt
Oldest shirt I have is the Foundation for the Jr Blind shirt. Largest
one I have is a six X that is simply huuuuuuge!
Smallest is a MediaWestCon shirt made for newborns. It's on a doll.
Rarest is probably the Foundation shirt or the Rocky Horror Show one.
Rattiest is an Aerosmith shirt from their 1987 tour.
Funniest is a Spinal Tap Break Like the Wind tour shirt.
Wierdest is probsbly the one advertising a S/M magazine.
Most beautiful is the one with an Indian morphing into a wolf with the
legend "We Are All One Family." on it.
Swan
Ron Sullivan
> Ooh, neat! I wish I was a better cartoonist, I'd volunteer. But I DO
> know that other newsgroups (rec.food.cooking) have had sucess in getting
> t-shirts printed up and sold.
Hey, I have one of those. And LotP has another. And Someone Else Here
has yet another, and we've walked into at least one restaurant looking
like a cult...
They were a fundraising thing, too. $ went to the transplant unit at
UCLA in memory if a wonderful smartass named Susan Hattie Steinsapir,
still missed by most of rfc. Who, come to think of it, was childfree
too. Also come to think of it, Joe (LotP) and I met Val at Susan
Hattie's wake. Small fookin' world.
>Here's a thought: maybe we could contact that cartoonist
> who hangs out here (Nina someone?) and she if she would grant permission
> for one of her 'toons to be reproduced on a shirt, or if she would design
> one just for the purpose?
Nina Paley, and I'd wear that, yabetcha.
Ron, digging out the laundry pen for autographs
Voris Tracy Van
> > > with my biz logo on them, and I've seen her desgin book as well.
> >
> > I'll have to "ditto" that one ... Dora sent me a hat last year with
> > "2bal by 2K" on it before my tubal in Nov ...
>
> we'll get this rolling. Glad you did wear the hat out of the house ;-)
Hey Dora - have you got any of your stuff on line so's I can take a
gander? I'd LOVE to see your work!
T.
Noelle
news:399455a7.3635592@news...
> 7) Ban School Prayer.
> Features hands clasped in prayer w/ a red circle and line through
> them. Reads "Exercise your First Amendment Right - Just say NO to
> School Prayer"
> "Carneal: 3 Fundamentalists: 0"
Ted, you might be interested in the new addition to my website, then. You
may recall my letter to the editor re: school prayer (well, specifically,
prayer at high school football games) that I posted on here a month or so
ago. Or you may not. Anyway, it's now on my website, complete with amusing
graphic:
http://www.fastlane.net/~gnoelle/editor.html
--
"If you have anything really valuable to contribute to the world it will
come through the expression of your own personality, that single spark of
divinity that sets you off and makes you different from every other living
creature."--Bruce Barton
http://www.fastlane.net/~gnoelle
Dora Robinson
> Hey Dora - have you got any of your stuff on line so's I can take a
> gander? I'd LOVE to see your work!
>
> T.
I just captured your address and will send you a .bmp of my latest good
piece. I'm not online. I keep thinking I will when I'm during slow time, but
then I get busy and say "why?" Someday, I may get on-line, but until then,
there's email for anyone who wants to see something. If your address is
munged, email me privately with your real address.
Thanks for your interest.
Dora
Citizen Ted
wrote:
>What are some of YOUR unusual T-shirts?
Got lots.
Here's the best:
1) A Secular Atavism shirt.
"Free Snot of Jesus!"
"Boogers of our Lord and Messiah!"
"Scientific Fact!"
"Biblical Proof!"
2) A GWAR shirt.
Features teen returning from concert with his skull peeled.
Shirt is still discolored from the blood and gore of a live GWAR mosh
pit.
3) Silent gesture.
Features two 30's-era black and white cartoon characters. One
character is bending over, pointing at his ass. The other is
astonished and insulted. Makes a great statement.
4) Mojo Nixon.
Mojo himself bequeathed me this shirt during an interview. It's a
button-up gas station shirt with two patches: "Mushroom Mania Inc" and
"Mojo". What a guy!
5) George W
Features George Washington (from the dollar bill) smoking a fat joint.
Shirt is circa 1976. Rare.
6) Deadbolt.
One of my favorite bands. Features rifle motif inscribed with "One
Shot, One Kill."
7) Ban School Prayer.
Features hands clasped in prayer w/ a red circle and line through
them. Reads "Exercise your First Amendment Right - Just say NO to
School Prayer"
"Carneal: 3 Fundamentalists: 0"
There's more - a Dudley Perkins 75th Anniversary shirt (oldest Harley
dealer anywhere), a vintage Clockwork Orange shirt, etc.
But the above are my faves.
- TR
- Mr. Fashionable.
Gutterboy
>What are some of YOUR unusual T-shirts?
I've gotten rid of most of mine. Let's see...
<Gutterboy goes to the closet>
- An "El Vez, the Mexican Elvis" shirt, with his backup chiquitas Priscillita,
Gladysita, and Lisa Maria
- A shirt that's 180 degrees of an enormous cloud Afro, with "The History of
Funk" written across it
- A "Baldknobbers" shirt from Branson, Missouri, with two gap-toothed
hillbillies on it
- A "Jim Beam Backroom Whiskey" shirt with "It's a Backroom Night!" on the back
(which makes gay guys do a double take)
- "You Are Leaving the American Sector" (the sign from the former Checkpoint
Charlie)
- A 1940s medical label that says "WARNING: Under This Seal Lies Germ-Laden
Household FILTH! Destroy It! Dirt - Disease - Death" (a guy in a movie line in
California actually told me, "Oooh, good self-esteem, dude")
- And, of course, the shirt that got me the nickname: a pulp novel cover from
the 1950s. Pictured: a swinger with his shirt off, cavorting with two buxotics,
and the cover line "Shame and Degradation Were Sin Kicks For This...GUTTER
BOY."
Gutterboy
-----------------
"Mothers should be made saints. I don't know how anyone could not get that. Its
like your TRYING to be dumb about it." -- Posted to themommies.com
Marie Braden
wrote:
>Wrote Noelle:
>
>>What are some of YOUR unusual T-shirts?
>
>I've gotten rid of most of mine. Let's see...
Me too.
Some of my better ones were:
*Joe Satriani (but you have to understand that this was PRIOR to
Surfing with the Alien, so NO ONE had ever heard of him)
*The Reefer Madness poster
*A white T-shirt with the Virgin records logo--not UNUSUAL, but it
caused quite a stir in high school....LOL
*One with a picture of Elvis as a Rastafarian....or at least it was a
Rastafarian that looked a LOT like Elvis
*One with a little crown between the breasts and the saying, "Bitch
Goddess"
.....mostly lots and lots of concert shirts, though(\Big surprise?
probably NOT)
Now, jacket pins,.....seeing as I grew up in the 80s....I had LOTS of
cool jacket pins...the more the merrier.....
Ron Sullivan
<lab...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> As someone commented that IO am the Resident Famous Columnist, I thought
> I'd interject that I just signed a new contract with Halfthe planet.com
> and will go to a shorter, monthly column. But at a higher rate of pay!
> Also, I'm negotiating a contract with PanGaia Magazine as well. Life is
> definitely looking GOOD!
Congrats!! Getting out there with good stuff is where it starts! And
it's decent that you get more pay for shorter columns; it's harder to
write short. (Jo Mancuso, one of the two best editors I've ever had,
gave me one sterling piece of advice re: writing short pieces: focus
closely on one detail and work the hell out of that. Keeps it from
being sketchy. Smart lady.) I'll be watching.
Hell, I've already doubled your readership in this house. I can't
resist calling Joe in to read your posts over my shoulder.
> We'll keep you abreast of the details.
Abreast of details, nose to the grindstone, shoulder to the wheel, ear
to the ground... Crisco Twister!
Ron, party gal
John & Mari Morgan
wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:07:34 -0500, "Noelle" <gno...@fastlane.net>
>wrote:
>
>>What are some of YOUR unusual T-shirts?
>
> Got lots.
Gosh. Am I the _only_ one who doesn't wear logo t-shirts?
Mari
who doesn't much like to draw visual attention *wry grin*
Jim
John & Mari Morgan wrote:
> Gosh. Am I the _only_ one who doesn't wear logo t-shirts?
>
> Mari
> who doesn't much like to draw visual attention *wry grin*
I don't wear t-shirts. Except for swimming, when I have to cover my HMT.
Jim
Noelle
news:ShVk5.3351$jh.2...@news-reader.ntrnet.net...
> :>>What are some of YOUR unusual T-shirts?
> -one with the "Funny Face" drink mix characters (Goofy Grape, Lefty Lemon,
> Rootin-Tootin Raspberry, Choo-Choo Cherry, Jolly-Olly-Orange, etc.) on it.
Hee hee! I have a book called "What a Character" that lists lots of
advertising mascots from the 1920s or so on. The Funny Face guys are in
there, along with Twinkie the Kid, Jean LaFoote, the Frito Bandito (who was
done away with because he was considered racially insensitive), Red-E
Kilowatt, and so on. Great book. There's a completely weird pharmaceutical
promo from the late 70s that's a little rubber blobby guy with an unhappy
face on one side and a happy face on the other. It's advertising....Ritalin.
>-A black shirt with a photo transfer of Almira Gulch (from The Wizard of
Oz")
The Wicked Witch of the West is now my favorite character from the Wizard of
Oz. I have a checkbook cover that has a picture of her looking into her
crystal ball, with one of the flying monkeys looking on. An order form came
with it to order Wizard of Oz checks, but all the designs had Dorothy on
them, and she most definitely is not my favorite character.
Have I brought up the Wizard of Oz/Dark Side of the Moon connection on here
before?
Noelle
http://www.fastlane.net/~gnoelle/ritalin.jpg
Worth a look.
hepron
Gosh. Am I the _only_ one who doesn't wear logo t-shirts?
>
>
Nope, all of my t-shirts are very boring, nothing but white t-shirts, and
maybe if I am feeling daring (joke) I may put on an olive green t-shirt.
Kent
: The Wicked Witch of the West is now my favorite character from the Wizard of
: Oz. I have a checkbook cover that has a picture of her looking into her
: crystal ball, with one of the flying monkeys looking on. An order form came
: with it to order Wizard of Oz checks, but all the designs had Dorothy on
: them, and she most definitely is not my favorite character.
You would love this Cabaret-style album I have; this guy named Fred
Barton, the show is called "Miss Gulch Returns". The whole thing is all of
these wonderfully witty songs written and performed by him, including the
song he says the Witch had but was cut from the movie, called "I'm a
Bitch". :) The cleverest one is this one alluding to Judy Garland, with
wonderful lyrics like "62 men and me, singing 'Over the Rainbow', is not
my idea of a gig!" and "...I know she was grand; she was heavenly at
Metro, but her fan club is not heavily hetero..."
: Have I brought up the Wizard of Oz/Dark Side of the Moon connection on here
: before?
You haven't, but that 'connection' has been floating around for a few
years now. With Oz on TV recently, it was even in the mainstream
newspapers. I got a tape of DSOTM from someone but have never managed to
sit down and test it.
Kent, who played the Tin Man in 9th grade
Rat & Swan
> I don't wear t-shirts. Except for swimming, when I have to cover my HMT.
> Jim
Now why would you wanna cover those sweet thangs UP fer?
Swan
Who once referred to an International Mr. Leather winner as "A bushel
and a pec'!
Scott Eiler
the robotic servitors of "Noelle" <gno...@fastlane.net>
rose up with the following chant:
>What are some of YOUR unusual T-shirts?
The current front-runner is my "Nuluaq Community Internet Access" T-shirt from
Baffin Island. "Nuluaq", of course, is spelled in big letters in Inuktitut
language.
Other contenders are:
* My T-shirt with the logo of Luftgruppe Vest, Royal Danish Air Force,
Detachment Greenland. It should look even more fun, after I've tie-dyed it.
* My "Mage" T-shirt, which has a "Shazam!" lightning-bolt motif, only in
villainous colors.
* My Fatface the Baby T-shirt, custom-adorned with the image of the official
baby of http://www.tftb.com/childfree/ (for those who wonder what Frenchy and
Lara have been doing lately).
And, of course, I have several T-shirts with other superhero logos and
"Charlie Brown" stripes.
-------- Scott Eiler B{D> -------- http://www.ultranet.com/~seiler
The two things most often said about Lincoln (Nebraska) are it's very clean
and it's a great place to raise children. If reproduction is not your aim,
at least you won't step in anything distasteful.
-- From the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy entry on Lincoln, Nebraska,
USA (http://www.h2g2.com/A296165).
Veronique
>On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:50:46 -0400, John & Mari Morgan
><john...@gis.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:27:11 GMT, enoi...@omit.home.com
(Citizen Ted)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:07:34 -0500, "Noelle"
<gno...@fastlane.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Gosh. Am I the _only_ one who doesn't wear logo t-shirts?
>
>
> Though I have a nice collection of weird T shirts, I rarely
>wear them. The only time you'll catch me in public with a
slogan or ad
>shirt is when I'm jogging down the street, sweating up a storm.
> The rest of the time, I insist on wearing nondescript clothes
>bereft of any manufacturer's label.
>
> The way I figure it, if I'm gonna walk around like a breathing
>goddamn billboard, I want some reimbursement.
>
> I think $90 per day should be just fine.
>
> - TR
> - oh, except Hilfiger. You couldn't pay me to wear that crap.
<snort> Hilfiger has lots of stuff remaindered at Ross.
Apparently
you aren't the only one!
I don't wear t-shirts generally (except for my soccer team one,
but we're going to jerseys, alas); therefore the only t-shirts I
own are ones that are too odd to throw out.
A beautiful dark green "Save The Sheep" one with line drawing of
several unusual breeds of sheep;
An ancient official unofficial black t-shirt from Reed College
"Communism, Atheism, Free Love" (and I only wish I'd been there
the year before to snap up its alternative: "Capitalism,
Hedonism,
Free Beer");
A "Temple of the Dove" in dove gray, of course, from the Temple
of
the Dove in Missoula, Montana (which seems to be unaccountably
missing, along with my white silk slip, what is going on in my
closets?)
V.
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
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Cristabel
>Or you may not. Anyway, it's now on my website, complete with amusing
> graphic:
>
> http://www.fastlane.net/~gnoelle/editor.html
Oh, dear. That graphic looks *just* like my Mormon friend who made a
half-hearted attempt to convert me.
Cristabel. Tina was never that sanctimonious, thankfully. She played
*cards.*
Citizen Ted
MRFeathers
Wow, they really used those guys in advertising. Better Living Through
Chemistry, eh?
Mary
Woof
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Kent wrote:
>You haven't, but that 'connection' has been floating around for a few
>years now. With Oz on TV recently, it was even in the mainstream
>newspapers. I got a tape of DSOTM from someone but have never managed to
>sit down and test it.
One of the lesser movie channels (it wasn't AMC or Turner, so maybe Fox?)
recently showed the movie with the DSOTM soundtrack on the secondary audio
channel. Rather unfortunately, they completely suppressed all the normal
dialog and music, which made it pretty darn boring during the slow parts of
DSOTM. Still, the coincidences, when they happened, were pretty remarkable.
I think you'll enjoy it more with the movie sound and DSOTM both playing at the
same time.
Woof
Tracey C.
>
> : The Wicked Witch of the West is now my favorite character from the Wizard of
> : Oz. I have a checkbook cover that has a picture of her looking into her
> : crystal ball, with one of the flying monkeys looking on. An order form came
> : with it to order Wizard of Oz checks, but all the designs had Dorothy on
> : them, and she most definitely is not my favorite character.
And may I suggest the book "Wicked", by somebody whose last name starts with M
(Maguire?) -- it's the story told from the green lady's pov.
Tracey
--
"My grandma always said that God made libraries so that people didn't have any
excuse to be stupid" -- Joan Bauer, _Rules of the Road_
Tracey C.
> the robotic servitors of "Noelle" <gno...@fastlane.net>
> rose up with the following chant:
>
I don't have some of the cool t-shirts being mentioned (I'm afraid I wasn't
born when most of them were circulating), but I do have:
one with snowpeople engaging in a variety of sexual acts.
one that says "my library has something to offend everyone"
one with the Hogwarts school crest (new!) Okay, not unusual.
My husband's fave t-shirt at the moment is one that has the code
for hacking dvd's printed on it. He likes to say that since it's
illegal to look at that code, wearing the shirt makes him
invisible.
Tracey
Noelle
news:3994F3AF...@wwa.com...
> > Noelle wrote:
> >
> > : The Wicked Witch of the West is now my favorite character from the
Wizard of
> > : Oz. I have a checkbook cover that has a picture of her looking into
her
> > : crystal ball, with one of the flying monkeys looking on. An order form
came
> > : with it to order Wizard of Oz checks, but all the designs had Dorothy
on
> > : them, and she most definitely is not my favorite character.
>
> And may I suggest the book "Wicked", by somebody whose last name starts
with M
> (Maguire?) -- it's the story told from the green lady's pov.
Got it. It's among my favorite books of all time. :) I was the person who
mentioned it to the newsgroup, as a matter of fact. After I read "Wicked,"
(Geoffrey Maguire, by the way) I never saw "The Wizard of Oz" in the same
way again, and that's why the Witch is my favorite character. Fantastic
writing style, and a brilliant story. I wonder if he's written anything
else.
JesterKat
inscribed, in words of cybernetic fire:
>> And may I suggest the book "Wicked", by somebody whose last name starts with M
>> (Maguire?) -- it's the story told from the green lady's pov.
>
>Got it. It's among my favorite books of all time. :) I was the person who
>mentioned it to the newsgroup, as a matter of fact. After I read "Wicked,"
>(Geoffrey Maguire, by the way) I never saw "The Wizard of Oz" in the same
>way again, and that's why the Witch is my favorite character. Fantastic
>writing style, and a brilliant story. I wonder if he's written anything
>else.
"Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister," by Gregory Maguire, published
last year, according to Amazon. Also... well... a bunch of children's
books (eeek!). ;-)
---JesterKat, who also loved "Wicked"--about halfway through, I
thought, with considerable apprehension, "Oh... she has to die..."
nosprogs
overloaded planet full of people on the back
- Abortion is biodegradable
- The Family Tree Stops Here
- I Will Be A Post-Feminist in the Post-Patriarchy
- Against Abortion? Don't Have One! (Yes, it is really that
simple! Too bad the pro-lifers/pro-breeders can't figure that
out!)
-
John & Mari Morgan
wrote:
>John & Mari Morgan wrote:
>
>> Gosh. Am I the _only_ one who doesn't wear logo t-shirts?
>>
>> Mari
>> who doesn't much like to draw visual attention *wry grin*
>
>I don't wear t-shirts. Except for swimming, when I have to cover my HMT.
Pierce 'em. That's what DH did to his HMT. ;-)
I _have_ t-shirts, several of 'em, but I really prefer very plain
ones. I do own one logo tee, one I bought to benefit the Alliance for
Animals in Boston which gives the phone number for their spay/neuter
program, but I don't wear it often up here in NH. Not as much point in
being a walking billboard, since they don't have any branches within
fifty miles. I used to wear more logo t-shirts (I was a fan of
comic-strip tees, specifically - Bill the Cat, Opus, Mother Goose &
Grim, etc.), but I've gotten less enthusiastic about them in recent
years.
Mari
Tracey C.
> mentioned it to the newsgroup, as a matter of fact. After I read "Wicked,"
> (Geoffrey Maguire, by the way) I never saw "The Wizard of Oz" in the same
> way again, and that's why the Witch is my favorite character. Fantastic
> writing style, and a brilliant story. I wonder if he's written anything
> else.
Why yes, he has. :) (and it's Gregory, btw, I did some checking) It's a
retelling
of the Cinderella tale called Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister -- I managed
to read about the first two chapters and was bored out of my mind, but ymmv.
It's set in Amsterdam about Renaissance era, I think. You can check Amazon
for reviews, etc.
Tracey
marsha_wm
on a white background. I still wear it.
BethD
"Rat & Swan" <lab...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:399230...@pacbell.net...
>
> As someone commented that IO am the Resident Famous Columnist, I thought
> I'd interject that I just signed a new contract with Halfthe planet.com
> and will go to a shorter, monthly column. But at a higher rate of pay!
> Also, I'm negotiating a contract with PanGaia Magazine as well. Life is
> definitely looking GOOD!
>
>
OOOOOOHHHHHHH, I subscribe to PanGaia!!!!!! Eagerly looking forward to
hopefully seeing you in print....can I send an email to anybody encouraging
them to add your column????
BethD
Abbie F.
> I am very
>glad that my husband likes to do the grocery shopping because I
>am not good at just "ignoring" the uncivilized brats and the
>ignorant breeders. I definately make comments that they DO hear
>and I have the evil eye down to a
>tee.
:-) My first long-distance supermarket Death Stare worked! We're at one end
of an aisle when this Doppler-like wailing got my attention. At the other end,
a moomie and a whining brat attached by its suckers to the front of the cart
sailed across from left to right. I only saw them for a few seconds, and gave
them the snootiest stare I could. She instantly started trying to shush the
brat, and even looked kind of mortified too. :-) I don't know if it was
actually because of me or just coincidence, but it sure *felt* good!
"Empty brains are easier to wash." - Abbie, proud hotelier to Nikki, Jellyroll,
>Teena and Tigger, who aren't nearly as demanding or annoying as babies! ;>
Jim
John & Mari Morgan wrote:
>
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:55:24 -0400, Jim <flam...@cybercomm.net>
> wrote:
> >I don't wear t-shirts. Except for swimming, when I have to cover my HMT.
>
> Pierce 'em. That's what DH did to his HMT. ;-)
>
With all due respect to the pierced in the group, it just isn't gonna
happen. ;-)
Jim
Rat & Swan
> > Also, I'm negotiating a contract with PanGaia Magazine as well. Life is
> > definitely looking GOOD!
> > We'll keep you abreast of the details.
> > Swan
> OOOOOOHHHHHHH, I subscribe to PanGaia!!!!!! Eagerly looking forward to
> hopefully seeing you in print....can I send an email to anybody encouraging
> them to add your column????
It's now a done deal. My debut will be the First Church of the Holy
Roadrunner piece and the next will be (already turned in, BTW) a
commentary on Xmas. Just in time for the holidays. The column is the
final thing in the 'zine and is titled The Last Word.
The pay is quite a bit less than Halftheplanet.com, but this is not a
problem! I am in agtreement with the magazine and its focus and am more
than willing to give them (as I give every publisher) my very best for
what they can afford to reimburse me. I wholeheartedly support them and
am looking forward to seeing my work in their magazine.
On the WWSD Tee-shirt: I've finished the roughs, several of them, and
also will have a couple of professionally rendered drawings of my
(Swan's) face to show what I want done, as well as a couple of character
sketches. I have some artwork done by Linda Miller that, while I cannot
allow it to be reproduced without her permission, I *can* show to the
artist as a baseline of what style I'd like the shirt done in.
*however*, I have already told people that these are guidelines only!
What emerges, eventually, I hope, will be a collaborative effort with my
ideas as the springboard and the artist's rendition as s/he sees fit.
Since I cannot draw as well as I'd *like* to, it's only fair that I be
the 'idea' end of it.
I will also be submitting a cute illo of my impression of what Swan
looked like as a baby! The perfect CF infant!
Keep those body parts crossed!
Swan
Rat & Swan
to visit yesterday, and pick up the designs. She said that they would be
very good for tee-shirt and possibly even patch logos for caps ir
jackets. We even discussed an 'elite' high-end kind of satin jacket
with the illo of Swan-as-infant on the front and the WWSD logo on the
back, like studio jackets. I dug back through the Swan Archives and
found a wealth of good clear line drawings, three quarter, full profile,
full length, facial detail et cetera, sp with my sketches and the
character drawings, the artist(s) who complete the logo will have a lot
to work with in terms of getting it right.
BTW, for those who do NOT like the idea of wearing the depiction of an
infant (the small Swan Baby logo) it's an optional one! Cute, it aint!
In fact, it will give most pah-runts the willies! heeheeheeheehee!
Anyway, Dora will get back to me with the finished artwork and then
we'll find out how many people want which item and make up batches.
Here are the ideas we had:
Tee-shirt with the Swan and screaming sprog on the front with
"alt.support.childfree alt.support.childfree.moderated .. Set Youself
FREE!" on the back, and either WWSD or "What Would Swan Do?" on the
front with the art.
Caps with embroidered logos (probably the WWSD logo)
Patches that could be placed on whatever the person wanted.
Satin jackets as described above.
I think the tee-shirt should be dark, like black, blue or maroon, with
the logo in white or yellow. Other options might be yellow shirt with
black or dark red logo.
Anyone with ideas, feel free to chime in! What I want is an item that
will make people look, chuckle and *think*! I want it to publicize
childfreedom and the groups.
Once we see what type of items are wnated, what amount to make and what
quality shirt (I want something nice, that will last) then we can decide
prices and all.
Anyway, that's where it stands now.
For those late into this thread, the logos are as follows:
WWSD or What Would Swan Do shows (in my roughs) Swan (myself, the
Internet denizen) leaning indolently against the grille of a Rolls
Royce, looking down with a nasty evil smirk. At his feet is an infant,
squalling and waving its arms. Tears cascade from its head (seen from
the back) and its diaper is sagging, laden with unutterable stains as it
sits in a puddle of nameless liquid. Flies buzz around the stinking
child. Swan, watching it, is tossing and catching a pacifier, either
stolen from the baby or to be used as some type of lure. In Swan's
expensive suit pocket is a lollipop or candy cane.
The Swan as Baby logo has a caption that reads "Even as an infant, Swan
was different." and it shows an infant in long dress (think Swee'Pea
from Popeye) and lace bonnet, crawling. You cannot see the baby's face,
but, projecting from the front edge of the lace of the bonnet, you see
the smouldering tip of an expensive cigar with smoke curling from it!
That's what's up for now.
Swan
Dora Robinson
> "alt.support.childfree alt.support.childfree.moderated .. Set Youself
> FREE!" on the back, and either WWSD or "What Would Swan Do?" on the
> front with the art.
Just to keep things on the up and up, I want to thank Cheryl Greer for the
suggestion of "set yourself Free". Whose ever ideas we use, will be
acknowledged as being a contributor to the project.
Later,
Dora
Mallory O'Brien
across in a long time. get over yourself swan, a GAWd you ain't.
mallory
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:45:24 -0700, Rat & Swan <lab...@pacbell.net>
wrote:
>Well, Dora, her very nice DH and their very well behaved pup, Bear came
>to visit yesterday, and pick up the designs. She said that they would be
>very good for tee-shirt and possibly even patch logos for caps ir
>jackets. We even discussed an 'elite' high-end kind of satin jacket
>with the illo of Swan-as-infant on the front and the WWSD logo on the
>back, like studio jackets. I dug back through the Swan Archives and
>found a wealth of good clear line drawings, three quarter, full profile,
>full length, facial detail et cetera, sp with my sketches and the
>character drawings, the artist(s) who complete the logo will have a lot
>to work with in terms of getting it right.
>
>BTW, for those who do NOT like the idea of wearing the depiction of an
>infant (the small Swan Baby logo) it's an optional one! Cute, it aint!
>In fact, it will give most pah-runts the willies! heeheeheeheehee!
>
>Anyway, Dora will get back to me with the finished artwork and then
>we'll find out how many people want which item and make up batches.
>Here are the ideas we had:
>
>Tee-shirt with the Swan and screaming sprog on the front with
>"alt.support.childfree alt.support.childfree.moderated .. Set Youself
>FREE!" on the back, and either WWSD or "What Would Swan Do?" on the
>front with the art.
>
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Jennifer Landry
O'Brien) wrote:
>this sounds like the most idiotic, egotistical nonsense i have come
>across in a long time. get over yourself swan, a GAWd you ain't.
>
That's a pretty harsh condemnation coming from someone with a 32 line
bandwidth waster for a sig Mallory.
Jennifer
Jennifer Landry -- http://www.gis.net/~dlandry1
mailto:jdla...@mail2.gis.net
"Friends don't let friends breed"
IleneB
Sounds great! I also love the "set yourself free." (or some mention of
freedom!)
I had the pleasure of meeting Dora and Bear in Albuquerque, and saw her
work in her portfolio (and the work she did for Elise's school).
Really, really nice stuff. Yay, Dora! (Hi, Bear!)
Ilene B
In article <39A03711...@ix.netcom.com>, Dora Robinson
B. Sock
(Mallory O'Brien) wrote:
> this sounds like the most idiotic, egotistical nonsense i have come
> across in a long time. get over yourself swan, a GAWd you ain't.
I want to know what sort of person would wear a satin jacket in 2000.
- B.
tibbi
Landry <jdla...@mail2.gis.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:14:54 GMT, mall...@my-deja.com (Mallory
> O'Brien) wrote:
>
> >this sounds like the most idiotic, egotistical nonsense i have come
> >across in a long time. get over yourself swan, a GAWd you ain't.
> >
>
> That's a pretty harsh condemnation coming from someone with a 32 line
> bandwidth waster for a sig Mallory.
Ignore Mallory. Better to killfile as I did a lo-o-o-ng time ago.
She's desperately jealous of Swan. It kills her that Swan is the one we
all want on the T-shirt.
tibbi
> > Tee-shirt with the Swan and screaming sprog on the front with
> > "alt.support.childfree alt.support.childfree.moderated .. Set Youself
> > FREE!" on the back, and either WWSD or "What Would Swan Do?"
> > on the front with the art.
>
> Just to keep things on the up and up, I want to thank Cheryl Greer
> for the suggestion of "set yourself Free". Whose ever ideas we use,
> will be acknowledged as being a contributor to the project.
I am so glad that you were able to get together with Swan and do this.
Maybe after the clothes are done, you could do a screen-aver. I'd love
to have one on at work, to counter all those yucky xtian ones that some
people have.
Cheryl M Greer
Dora Robinson <embroi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Just to keep things on the up and up, I want to thank Cheryl Greer for the
>suggestion of "set yourself Free". Whose ever ideas we use, will be
>acknowledged as being a contributor to the project.
Quick correction: It was Swan who came up with the "set yourself Free"
catchphrase, I just made up that logo incorporating the phrase. Do you
plan on using it?
Cheryl
Dora Robinson
> Quick correction: It was Swan who came up with the "set yourself Free"
> catchphrase, I just made up that logo incorporating the phrase. Do you
> plan on using it?
>
> Cheryl
Yes. I liked the way you had it presented. Cheryl contributed the ART for the
Set Yourself Free... At any rate, I just want people to know I'm not in this
to capitalize on anything and actually knowing the potential numbers on this, am
doing it just because it's CF and I like it. Swan's drawings are great. There
is detail I'm going to have to leave out. The baby Swan is great as is. Very
simple lineart and I think it'll be the bigger hit for the general public to
notice and also understand. The other one I think most CFer's that know us will
want to have. I still think a mini-series of personalities on the WWSD shirt
would be cool and will take any ideas.
If you post ideas, please also send them personally to me. At the present, I
just took deposits on 11 custom-fitted, fully embroidered dresses, a job which
has led me to give away clients in the past few weeks so I can concentrate on
this custom job and I have some exciting devlopments going on in my business
which I'll go into detail later. Let's just say that my in-home, one-room
business is exploding into a 2200 sq ft building with 3 offices and two
employees. ;-) See what happens when you start living the CF life? (for those
not in the know...I've been living in limbo for quite some time. I'm soooo
liberated and excited now...)
And, didn't mean to leave out that Swanage was wonderful. Delsie is also a very
well-behaved dog and like Bear, isn't shy about asking for affection. (Sorry
Ilene, I think he was just traumatized by the trip and the kennel thing but he
loved getting attention from Delsie and Swan) And now I know I'm not so weird.
We don't use the master bedroom for a bedroom. We use a 10x10 room based on the
fact that all we do is sleep and change clothes, which Swan also has masterfully
done. (and I'm jealous of your desk!) Now that the business is moving out, the
master bedroom will go back to being a library/guest quarters/hobby room.
Also, if you have ideas on what garments you'd like it on, let me know. What
I'm proposing is that I'll get the art done, somehow get it displayed on one of
the CF pages, Ilona? And then since I'm a small custom shop, I can do as few
as one of a particular style (in embroidery) as long as I'm ordering it at the
same time from the same vendor. Those that are silk-screened, I still need to
speak to the silk screener now that I have the art. I have a vendor that has
just about every style. Satin jackets are extremely popular in the decorated
apparel industry. I have gone to client's homes and they have shown me their
collections with pride, as did Swan with one. Embroidery especially is often
accepted on clothing that people ordinarily wear but it shows exceptionally well
on satin and people collect them for the art value.
I must go now. The day awaits.
Take care,
Dora
B. Sock
Oh, my. This is funny.
- B.
Just Dying To Be On A Satin Jacket
Cheryl M Greer
Cool!
>
>Also, if you have ideas on what garments you'd like it on, let me know. What
>I'm proposing is that I'll get the art done, somehow get it displayed on one of
>the CF pages, Ilona? And then since I'm a small custom shop, I can do as few
>as one of a particular style (in embroidery) as long as I'm ordering it at the
>same time from the same vendor. Those that are silk-screened, I still need to
>speak to the silk screener now that I have the art. I have a vendor that has
>just about every style. Satin jackets are extremely popular in the decorated
>apparel industry. I have gone to client's homes and they have shown me their
>collections with pride, as did Swan with one. Embroidery especially is often
>accepted on clothing that people ordinarily wear but it shows exceptionally well
Well, speaking only for myself, I'd like to have the option of
getting either the Swan shirt, or just a plain shirt with the "Set Your
self Free" logo screenprinted on it. For that, I think either a plain
white tee (or sweatshirt) with black and red lettering, or a black shirt
with white and red letting would look great! (Especially the
black..please, please!)
Cheryl
Rat & Swan
> I am so glad that you were able to get together with Swan and do this.
> Maybe after the clothes are done, you could do a screen-aver. I'd love
> to have one on at work, to counter all those yucky xtian ones that some
> people have.
Screensavers are easy. Most graphics or image programs (like ACDee
IIRC) have an option to save an image in your Screen Saver File. If
you're Windozing, the Screen Saver option (Windows > My Computer >
Control Panel > Screen Savers > File) allow you to search your captured
i9mages in graphics programs to place any image on the screen as a
saver. In the File section, go to Open and then browse your saved
images. Alternatively, to start conversations, go into your ScreenSaver
area and put on Marquee. Marquee is programmable to any on-screen
message you want. You could put 'What Would Swan Do?' or 'ASCF' on there
and wait for the questions to start! (quickly ducks out to see what's
on my marquee) Ah! "Rat and her beloved garbagecan, Swan, are the Porn
Queens of the Internet!" *snicker* I still have that quote from a flame
sent to Rattie about five years ago!
Swan
The 'Beloved Garbagecan'! heeheeheehee!
Rat & Swan
>
> this sounds like the most idiotic, egotistical nonsense i have come
> across in a long time. get over yourself swan, a GAWd you ain't.
>
Of course not! Never claimed to be. In fact, if you read the original
posts, I suggested that SEVERAL ASCF 'net personas' be done in a series
of shirts. The only reason I used myself as a starting example is
because I seem to have developed the reputation (have NO idea why...
snicker) for being outrageous in public. The question, 'What would Swan
dfo?' is not one of admiration, but of horrorstruck anticipation!
BTW, 'Swan' is a net-persona. The image of 'Swan' on the shirt, bears
only passing resemblance to my meatlife body and identity. If I'm
conferring godjhood onto anything, it is onto an alias.
Only Grim responded to my suggestion of a 'What Would Pete Do?' shirt,
which would be a hoot and a half! You, mallory, would be another person
suitable for 'lionization' silkscreen on cloth, because of your vivid
contributions to the ng.
Now be off with you, before I part the heavens and send the lightning
after you! :)
Swan
"If I'm supposed to be an agent of Satan, where's my ten percent?!"
Rat & Swan
> In article <1b31qssle5r0583gu...@4ax.com>, Jennifer
> Landry <jdla...@mail2.gis.net> wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:14:54 GMT, mall...@my-deja.com (Mallory
> > >this sounds like the most idiotic, egotistical nonsense i have come
> > >across in a long time. get over yourself swan, a GAWd you ain't.
> > That's a pretty harsh condemnation coming from someone with a 32 line
> > bandwidth waster for a sig Mallory.
> Ignore Mallory. Better to killfile as I did a lo-o-o-ng time ago.
> She's desperately jealous of Swan. It kills her that Swan is the one we
> all want on the T-shirt.
I doubt that Mallory's jealous of me... more that she is annoyed at the
whole idea of using a personality on the shirt instead of a more generic
logo or concept. Can't say as I blame her, but the idea was not about
'me' as much as it was about outrageousness.
After all, while I did come up with the suggestion, it was others who
ran with it. Many groups on the I'net have tee shirts or other things
with group in-jokes on them. My importance (if inceed I have *any*) is
as a netgroup in-joke. Nothing more.
Anyone wanting to add to the festivities is more than welcome to! In
fact, perhaps either Mallory or Bonus Sock or someone else with whom I
often disagree could be placed on a teeshirt as 'the Anti-Swan'
'anti-Pete' or some such, (to further stretch the labored analogy!) with
the logo "Dare To Disagree With The Lunchtable Princesses!".
I LOVE it! Hell, I'd be the first in line!
Lunchtable Rebel
Marie Braden
>which would be a hoot and a half! You, mallory, would be another person
>suitable for 'lionization' silkscreen on cloth, because of your vivid
>contributions to the ng.
>
>Now be off with you, before I part the heavens and send the lightning
>after you! :)
Actually, I said the following, which was suggestions for more than
just Pete as a T-shirt (Though I'm sure Grim's idea for a Pete T-shirt
was way way better than mine, for obvious reasons!)....
I love the "Set Yourself Free" phrase....it's really perfect.
O'course, I can visualize a whole line of 'em...Pete smacking a
snotrocket over the head with a guitar (think Pete Townshend), Jason
peering out of a Miata as a chiyuld coughs from the exhaust as he
drives off, etc.....and then maybe a more-generic graphic, not so
personality dependent........Like a street sign that says "No Sprogs"
or something like that....
---
Marie Braden
Bitburg, Germany
"Sometimes it's difficult having sympathy with everyone's point of view"
--Wendy Wasserstein
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Mallory O'Brien
<jdla...@mail2.gis.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:14:54 GMT, mall...@my-deja.com (Mallory
>O'Brien) wrote:
>
>>this sounds like the most idiotic, egotistical nonsense i have come
>>across in a long time. get over yourself swan, a GAWd you ain't.
>>
>
>That's a pretty harsh condemnation coming from someone with a 32 line
>bandwidth waster for a sig Mallory.
>
>Jennifer
ah well,
so how's that diet going, jen?
tibbi
> I doubt that Mallory's jealous of me... more that she is annoyed at the
> whole idea of using a personality on the shirt instead of a more generic
> logo or concept. Can't say as I blame her, but the idea was not about
> 'me' as much as it was about outrageousness.
You are just generous to a fault so of course you don't see it.
That's ok. It's one of the things that makes you who you are.
And yes, the shirts were never about you, but you just turned out to be
the best one to start out with. Actually I thought it was more because
Dora was going to be closeby enough to be able to get the project off
the ground. But again, all the that was in the very public discussion,
and _because_ of her jealousy she choose to ignore it just in order to
get a dig at on you.
Her loss.
Judy
John & Mari Morgan wrote:
>
> Gosh. Am I the _only_ one who doesn't wear logo t-shirts?
>
> Mari
> who doesn't much like to draw visual attention *wry grin*
No, I don't usually wear tees, because they look awful on me. That
tight round neck doesn't do a thing for this pear-shaped bod. And I
will never wear a logo like Hilfugger or even 0ldNavy. I do have two
that are tres cool (IMO) though: a devil Betty Page, and a black tee
with tribal wings on the back and a tribal heart on the front.
-Judy
--
Drive carefully: 90% of people are caused by accidents.
Jason G
> Jason
>peering out of a Miata as a chiyuld coughs from the exhaust as he
>drives off, etc.....
One does not "peer" from a Miata. One glances jauntily, or, in extremis,
casts a gimlet eye.
--
Jason G
"You know you're having fun when your tires melt."
Pete
Mallory, you are a stupid bitch, just like Kyle's Mom.
*PLONK*...Pete
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