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Sharon Molloy

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Jun 25, 2001, 11:59:27 AM6/25/01
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Also posted to asc regular...

Okay folks, they're asking for it, so here's our chance to give it to 'em.

The Toronto Globe and Mail has a weekly feature in its Review section
which poses an ethical dilemma and invites readers to give their responses
at eth...@globeandmail.ca

This was today's. We don't have computer access at work so I charged home
at lunchtime in the pouring rain to post this:


A reader asks:

"During a two-day first-aid course, the question came up of what to do in
a situation where you have more victims than helpers. One of the tips
given was to help children before adults.

[Now THAT'S a two cent tip...]

Asked if that was because children are more likely to survive, we were
told that we are [hold onto your craniums here] ethically bound to help
children first.

[Here is what sent my brain, already through the ceiling AND the roof,
clear into orbit. Th only counterpoint the writer could come up with for
that was...]

But what about adults who may have children at home who need them? Should
children be helped first?"

[&^%*^$*&^*&AAAAAAAAAAAAAAI swear to fuck, chiiiildruuun safe at home, and
hypothetical to boot, matter more to this GONAD than a bleeding injured
adult right in front of him/her. If anyone could be refused a first aid
certificate like they refuse doctor's licences, it's this diaperhead.]

Pant, pant, wheeeze, short breath in, loooong breaaaath ooooout, okay.
That's better.

Once I was able to see straight, I composed this:

The truly ethical response in this situation is to first help those MOST
SERIOUSLY injured... regardless of age. Of course it's perfectly ethical
to attend someone with a broken limb before someone with say, a skinned
knee. The many things adults can do for themselves move outside their
ability after serious injury.

And why should anybody have to provide the "correct" answer to a question
like "Before I begin, who do you have at home?" in order to immediately
qualify for urgently needed first aid?

That address again is eth...@globeandmail.ca

Just please let's don't feed the stereotypes.

I'll post the results next week... unless my head irretrieveably
explodes.

Help keep Sharon's brain from exploding! Give 'em a piece of your mind!

_/\/\_
Sharon

"Children are gifts from Gawd!"
Then God's really into gag gifts.


Douglas Henke

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Jun 25, 2001, 3:04:04 PM6/25/01
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Sharon Molloy <an...@chebucto.ns.ca> writes:
> [ first aid triage scenario ]

> Asked if that was because children are more likely to survive, we were
> told that we are [hold onto your craniums here] ethically bound to help
> children first.

That's an emotional[1] decision, not a rational or ethical one. Both
rationally (i.e. from the standpoint of pure cost/benefit analysis)
and ethically ("good of the many") you must clearly attend to the
adult first, all else being equal.

Justification: Society has already paid the bulk of the costs
associated with the adult (years of upbringing and training for a
sprog who consumes but does not produce). Let him die, and you lose
the return on that investment.

Let the sprog bleed out. Easier to replace. Less wastage of up-front
costs already paid. Less collateral damage to other people who depend
on what the adult produces.

[1]-- For brood-sow values of "emotional"; I imagine most readers
here feel rather differently.

--
Mail to henke at insync dot net.

Ted Easton

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Jun 26, 2001, 2:38:41 PM6/26/01
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Gimme a break. Who is this lunkhead posing the question and where is her common sense?   Anyone who has been taught any kind of medical training -even the most basic generic kind- knows that in any given situation, when the injured outnumber the helpers, you triage the victims.   This is a concept that is practiced in every ER across the country.  They dont pick and choose from among the childruuuuuun who has the worst boo-boo meanwhile allow some (for instance) GSW adult to bleed out. 
 
 
 
 
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