Kenny's Challenge
Ron
> Ronny - nice shifting of the burden of proof. You want me to
prove I do
> NOT have that HUGE criminal history Moore and YOU claim. Nice TRY.
>
I offered:
Nope, I don't want to know anything about your criminal history. Just
show us ONE thing, with proof, that mr moore has on his web site about
you that is incorrect. One. Just one. You say you have it, He says
that you say you have it. Show it to us. Give us the opportunity to
review the proof of the pudding and take mr moore to task for failing to
live up to his often posted promise.
Or don't, and we can all draw our own conclusions about the veracity of
mr moores claims. And your claims as well. Willing to take the gamble
kenny? Willing to put it on the line, your word against mr moore's?
With this entire news group as the jury?
Of course if you don't want to do that we can draw our own conclusions,
after all this is your chance to get rid of his web site once and for
all, and his chance to prove to the news group that everything he has
said about you is correct and accurate.
Come on kenny, show us the money!
Ron
firemonkey
Have you all noticed that not even greg is defending kennie anymore,
thats bad, lol
freedom
That's really bad. Greg dragged Ken in here, then abandoned him to the
wolves.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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Ron
I take exception to that, I am no wolf.
I am a hardworking citizen, a citizen who knows a snow job when he sees one.
Ron
Greegor
> > That's really bad. Greg dragged Ken in here,
> then abandoned him to the wolves.
Ronald Van Dyne, Omaha Foster Contractor wrote
> I take exception to that, I am no wolf.
> I am a hardworking citizen, a citizen who
> knows a snow job when he sees one.
You'd play patty cake with Osama if you
felt his death threats served your political ends.
freedom
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Greegor <Gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Dave Moore of Calument IL wrote
Wow, you took Ken's incorrect guess of where I live, and can't even spell
it right. What a good puppet you are.
By the way, do you happen to have "The Mummy," "The Mummy Returns" and the
Indiana Jones collection?
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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Dan Sullivan
GFYS, greg.
KRP
"Ron" <apositi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> > Ronny - nice shifting of the burden of proof. You want me to prove
> > I do
> > NOT have that HUGE criminal history Moore and YOU claim. Nice TRY.
>
> I offered:
>
> Nope, I don't want to know anything about your criminal history. Just
> show us ONE thing, with proof, that mr moore has on his web site about you
> that is incorrect. One. Just one. You say you have it, He says that you
> say you have it. Show it to us. Give us the opportunity to review the
> proof of the pudding and take mr moore to task for failing to live up to
> his often posted promise.
It's simple Moore claims I have a criminal history. I don't. He offers no
proof. He claims I have DUI's I never have. He offers NO proof.
He claims I am a "registered sex offender in Wisconsin and Florida" both
state have their registries ON-LINE - I don't appear in either.
Moore claims I had the records "nuked." Like every other claim he can't
prove.
Here's one you can sink your teeth into. Robert J Kozlovskiy, Esq allegedly
an attorney who was associated with me in some way according to Moore, you
practices law or did in Baltimore, Maryland. You can check with the
Baltimore Bar Association and see if he was ever a member. (If he practiced
law he had to be.) Then maybe you could check with the Maryland Bar and see
if he was ever admitted to practice in Maryland. If you are looking for
excuses you might check with the surrounding states. When you find no
listing there you could check with the American Bar Association and see if
there has EVER been an attorney admitted ANYWHERE in the United States by
that name. You'll find out that the person, just like Will Rainey (Named
after a college near where Moore used to live) Rob Wedlock and some others
don't exist either. Moore mixes some half-truths with blatant lies.
He has posts that he claims he can't find on Google because I had them
"nuked." Of course that's not true. If you look REAL HARD you'll see that
the one in specific is a CUT AND PASTE of several messages that I DID write.
Search on key words. Davey loves to make a great deal of the "Mr. Moto"
comment he calls "racist." That's BULLSHIT! Mr. Moto was a Japanese
detective character in several movies made between 1935 and 1941. Nothing at
all racist at all about it in the original context of an imaginary brother
of the woman who was allegedly in Japan and "checking me out." Not to
mention her false claim of being half Japanese. Oh Ron I could go on there
were several places that archived Usenet posts, the libraries of them still
exist somewhere I believe. David could never explain why the posts didn't
appear in them either, and they did not offer any ability to "NUKE" a post
as Davey LOVES to call it.
So that should cover enough ground. It's not MY place to prove I do NOT
have a criminal record, it is Moore's to prove that I DO! In 10 years he has
been unable to.Same with DUI etc. I have NO criminal record, no convictions
for anything. That includes any DUI cases. I have had speeding tickets. So
the burden of proof is on him. You SHOULD have asked HIM to prove things
like the "registered sex offender" claim. But neither you nor Danny have.
KRP
That's "BLOW JOB" Ron.
firemonkey
> "Ron" <apositivepl...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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He has never claimed any of that stuff here kennie, post proof if you
expect to be believed. On the other hand you accuse him of everything
under the sun, never with any proof. You are full of more shit than a
Christmas goose old man. You are the one who has been caught forging
posts, forgetting your using an alias, etc. Unbelievable!!
freedom
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, "KRP" <web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
>"Ron" <apositi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>news:8isPi.18918$495....@newsfe22.lga...
>
>> > Ronny - nice shifting of the burden of proof. You want me to prove
>> > I do
>> > NOT have that HUGE criminal history Moore and YOU claim. Nice TRY.
>
>>
>> I offered:
>>
>> Nope, I don't want to know anything about your criminal history. Just
>> show us ONE thing, with proof, that mr moore has on his web site about you
>> that is incorrect. One. Just one. You say you have it, He says that you
>> say you have it. Show it to us. Give us the opportunity to review the
>> proof of the pudding and take mr moore to task for failing to live up to
>> his often posted promise.
>
>It's simple Moore claims I have a criminal history. I don't. He offers no
>proof. He claims I have DUI's I never have. He offers NO proof.
>He claims I am a "registered sex offender in Wisconsin and Florida" both
>state have their registries ON-LINE - I don't appear in either.
>Moore claims I had the records "nuked." Like every other claim he can't
>prove.
Which page of http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com makes such claims? URL,
please.
>
>Here's one you can sink your teeth into. Robert J Kozlovskiy, Esq allegedly
>an attorney who was associated with me in some way according to Moore,
Which page at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com makes such an allegation?
URL, please.
you
>practices law or did in Baltimore, Maryland. You can check with the
>Baltimore Bar Association and see if he was ever a member. (If he practiced
>law he had to be.) Then maybe you could check with the Maryland Bar and see
>if he was ever admitted to practice in Maryland. If you are looking for
>excuses you might check with the surrounding states. When you find no
>listing there you could check with the American Bar Association and see if
>there has EVER been an attorney admitted ANYWHERE in the United States by
>that name. You'll find out that the person, just like Will Rainey (Named
>after a college near where Moore used to live) Rob Wedlock and some others
>don't exist either.
The only hole in your story is that you had discussions with and about
these potential clients here on usenet. Still can't quite figure out an
excuse for that, can you?
> Moore mixes some half-truths with blatant lies.
>
>He has posts that he claims he can't find on Google because I had them
>"nuked." Of course that's not true. If you look REAL HARD you'll see that
>the one in specific is a CUT AND PASTE of several messages that I DID write.
No, it isn't. It's a verbatim reproduction of ONE of your posts, in which
you state that you'd like to arrange to have a woman raped. When you took
heat for it, you indeed had it "nuked" from the then-Dejanews archives.
I was able to effectively nail your fat ass on this denial....the archives
still contain several message threads in which your tasteless post was
being discussed. You never denied authoring it, until the day you figured
out how to "nuke" it from the archives. Rather, you tried to explain it
away as "sarcasm" and "ridicule". Proof of this is available at
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com, and can also be corroborated independently
in the Google archives.
>Search on key words. Davey loves to make a great deal of the "Mr. Moto"
>comment he calls "racist." That's BULLSHIT! Mr. Moto was a Japanese
>detective character in several movies made between 1935 and 1941. Nothing at
>all racist at all about it in the original context of an imaginary brother
>of the woman who was allegedly in Japan and "checking me out." Not to
>mention her false claim of being half Japanese. Oh Ron I could go on there
>were several places that archived Usenet posts, the libraries of them still
>exist somewhere I believe.
Such as?
David could never explain why the posts didn't
>appear in them either, and they did not offer any ability to "NUKE" a post
>as Davey LOVES to call it.
>
> So that should cover enough ground. It's not MY place to prove I do NOT
>have a criminal record, it is Moore's to prove that I DO! In 10 years he has
>been unable to.Same with DUI etc. I have NO criminal record, no convictions
>for anything. That includes any DUI cases. I have had speeding tickets. So
>the burden of proof is on him. You SHOULD have asked HIM to prove things
>like the "registered sex offender" claim. But neither you nor Danny have.
Because these things have already been proven. You even admitted to some
of them here on usenet. You get outted on these things, then you turn
around and resume lying about them. I for one am not going to dig up old
messages every week and repost them....suffice to say that you do have a
criminal history and several DUIs. People can decide who to believe :)
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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KRP
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>>Here's one you can sink your teeth into. Robert J Kozlovskiy, Esq
>>allegedly
>>an attorney who was associated with me in some way according to Moore,
>
> Which page at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com makes such an allegation?
> URL, please.
Right from your website Davey under complaints about krp consulting.
"Others claim to have had dealings with Ken Pangborn in a professional
capacity. Their postings are included below. Note that the author of this
site has simply reproduced these posts from internet archives, and does not
necessarily vouch for the authenticity of the allegations:
a.. Thomas Walsh (former Pangborn client)
b.. Rob Wedlock (former Falseacc Listserv member and "mark" of Ken)
c.. Robert J Kozlovskiy, Esq "
> you
>>practices law or did in Baltimore, Maryland. You can check with the
>>Baltimore Bar Association and see if he was ever a member. (If he
>>practiced
>>law he had to be.) Then maybe you could check with the Maryland Bar and
>>see
>>if he was ever admitted to practice in Maryland. If you are looking for
>>excuses you might check with the surrounding states. When you find no
>>listing there you could check with the American Bar Association and see if
>>there has EVER been an attorney admitted ANYWHERE in the United States by
>>that name. You'll find out that the person, just like Will Rainey (Named
>>after a college near where Moore used to live) Rob Wedlock and some others
>>don't exist either.
>> It's not MY place to prove I do NOT
>>have a criminal record, it is Moore's to prove that I DO! In 10 years he
>>has
>>been unable to.Same with DUI etc. I have NO criminal record, no
>>convictions
>>for anything. That includes any DUI cases. I have had speeding tickets. So
>>the burden of proof is on him. You SHOULD have asked HIM to prove things
>>like the "registered sex offender" claim. But neither you nor Danny have.
> Because these things have already been proven. You even admitted to some
> of them here on usenet.
No that's BULLSHIT moore. If they have been proven as you claim SURELY you
can merely copy it and post it right away.
> You get outted on these things, then you turn around and resume lying
> about them. I for one am not going to dig up old
> messages every week and repost them....suffice to say that you do have a
> criminal history and several DUIs. People can decide who to believe :)
When and where were they posted Davey? YOU ARE LYING! Where is your
official proof I killed a cop in Salt Lake City?
freedom
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, "KRP" <web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
>DAVID MOORE
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:42412236b1187ed8...@pseudo.borked.net...
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>>>Here's one you can sink your teeth into. Robert J Kozlovskiy, Esq
>>>allegedly
>>>an attorney who was associated with me in some way according to Moore,
>>
>> Which page at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com makes such an allegation?
>> URL, please.
>
>Right from your website Davey under complaints about krp consulting.
>
>"Others claim to have had dealings with Ken Pangborn in a professional
>capacity. Their postings are included below. Note that the author of this
>site has simply reproduced these posts from internet archives, and does not
>necessarily vouch for the authenticity of the allegations:
LOL.....
"Note that the author of this site has simply reproduced these posts from
internet archives, and does not necessarily vouch for the authenticity of
the allegations:"
I love the fact that you quoted the part which shoots down your entire
claim....oh, if only you had a real education....
Sorry, do your own detective work.
>
>> You get outted on these things, then you turn around and resume lying
>> about them. I for one am not going to dig up old
>> messages every week and repost them....suffice to say that you do have a
>> criminal history and several DUIs. People can decide who to believe :)
>
>
>When and where were they posted Davey? YOU ARE LYING! Where is your
>official proof I killed a cop in Salt Lake City?
I never claimed you did.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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Ron
KRP wrote:
> "Ron" <apositi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:8isPi.18918$495....@newsfe22.lga...
>
>>> Ronny - nice shifting of the burden of proof. You want me to prove
>>> I do
>>> NOT have that HUGE criminal history Moore and YOU claim. Nice TRY.
>
>> I offered:
>>
>> Nope, I don't want to know anything about your criminal history. Just
>> show us ONE thing, with proof, that mr moore has on his web site about you
>> that is incorrect. One. Just one. You say you have it, He says that you
>> say you have it. Show it to us. Give us the opportunity to review the
>> proof of the pudding and take mr moore to task for failing to live up to
>> his often posted promise.
>
> It's simple Moore claims I have a criminal history. I don't. He offers no
> proof. He claims I have DUI's I never have. He offers NO proof.
> He claims I am a "registered sex offender in Wisconsin and Florida" both
> state have their registries ON-LINE - I don't appear in either.
> Moore claims I had the records "nuked." Like every other claim he can't
> prove.
Are these things on his web site? If so please provide us with links.
You want the web site down kenny, you gotta do some of the work. After
all, its is YOUR "good" name that he is defaming, right? Give us the
link to the error, with a quote, and then please provide your proof that
it is indeed an error.
> Here's one you can sink your teeth into. Robert J Kozlovskiy, Esq allegedly
> an attorney who was associated with me in some way according to Moore, you
> practices law or did in Baltimore, Maryland. You can check with the
> Baltimore Bar Association and see if he was ever a member. (If he practiced
> law he had to be.) Then maybe you could check with the Maryland Bar and see
> if he was ever admitted to practice in Maryland. If you are looking for
> excuses you might check with the surrounding states. When you find no
> listing there you could check with the American Bar Association and see if
> there has EVER been an attorney admitted ANYWHERE in the United States by
> that name. You'll find out that the person, just like Will Rainey (Named
> after a college near where Moore used to live) Rob Wedlock and some others
> don't exist either. Moore mixes some half-truths with blatant lies.
Are these things on his web site? If so please provide us with links.
> He has posts that he claims he can't find on Google because I had them
> "nuked." Of course that's not true. If you look REAL HARD you'll see that
> the one in specific is a CUT AND PASTE of several messages that I DID write.
Which one? Link please.
> Search on key words. Davey loves to make a great deal of the "Mr. Moto"
> comment he calls "racist." That's BULLSHIT! Mr. Moto was a Japanese
> detective character in several movies made between 1935 and 1941. Nothing at
> all racist at all about it in the original context of an imaginary brother
> of the woman who was allegedly in Japan and "checking me out."
The actor who played Mr. Moto was actually of Caucasian decent. I know
the show.
I've not read anything about this on mr moore's web site. Please
provide a link to the page.
> Not to
> mention her false claim of being half Japanese. Oh Ron I could go on there
> were several places that archived Usenet posts, the libraries of them still
> exist somewhere I believe. David could never explain why the posts didn't
> appear in them either, and they did not offer any ability to "NUKE" a post
> as Davey LOVES to call it.
Actually, there is a way to not have a post archived. Dont know how to
do it myself, but you might ask Mikey about it, he does it all the time.
> So that should cover enough ground. It's not MY place to prove I do NOT
> have a criminal record, it is Moore's to prove that I DO! In 10 years he has
> been unable to.Same with DUI etc. I have NO criminal record, no convictions
> for anything. That includes any DUI cases. I have had speeding tickets. So
> the burden of proof is on him. You SHOULD have asked HIM to prove things
> like the "registered sex offender" claim. But neither you nor Danny have.
Proving a negative is not simple, we know this. But there should be
something on his web site that you can prove is inaccurate kenny. After
all, he has dedicated many pages and quite a bit of time and effort in
keeping that page running and in covering you with crap at every
opportunity.
The web site is directed at you kenny, not any of us. Moore has offered
to remove it and completely shut it down if you can prove that anything
there is inaccurate about you. You say you have the proof, you say you
have provided it to him. You also say that he refuses to abide by his
word. You want the site down? Show us the proof. The proof kenny, not
your word on things. Something we can verify, something we can look at
and confirm that what you say is indeed right and he is wrong. Not
posts, but actual information on his www.aboutkenpangborn.com web site.
There's your challenge kenny. I for one would be more than happy to
stuff a sock in mr moore's mouth (I am actually getting quite bored with
both of you and the constant back and forth tit-for-tat crap you two
engage in). It would be a service to the entire internet community if
we could bring this childish squabble between the two of you to an end.
Ron
NOTE: I am intentionally cross posting this to several other news
groups, groups that kenny and moore have been spamming for years, in an
attempt to get the users there to support this cause.
KRP
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>>>>Here's one you can sink your teeth into. Robert J Kozlovskiy, Esq
>>>>allegedly
>>>>an attorney who was associated with me in some way according to Moore,
>>> Which page at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com makes such an allegation?
>>> URL, please.
>>Right from your website Davey under complaints about krp consulting.
>>
>>"Others claim to have had dealings with Ken Pangborn in a professional
>>capacity. Their postings are included below. Note that the author of
>>this
>>site has simply reproduced these posts from internet archives, and does
>>not
>>necessarily vouch for the authenticity of the allegations:
>
Oh Davey you constantly claim that "EVERYTHING" on your website is TRUE.
Now you try a DISCLAIMER that it might not be? Davey you were challenged on
this attorney YEARS ago. When you were saying prove ONE thing wrong. I
challenged you that NO SUCH ATTORNEY exists, other people went to look too
and said there was NO such person in Maryland. Not just no LAWYER Davey -
nobody by that name in Maryland. You have known the challenges to the
existence of that fictional character for years, Davey, a DISCLAIMER doesn't
excuse you. You KNOW it is a FAKE and you keep it there. Along with the
other FAKE posts from FICTIONAL CHARACTERS.You can deny all you want that
you made these people up. Intelligent people can see you are LYING.
KRP
>>>> Ronny - nice shifting of the burden of proof. You want me to prove
>>>> I do
>>>> NOT have that HUGE criminal history Moore and YOU claim. Nice TRY.
>>
>>> I offered:
>>>
>>> Nope, I don't want to know anything about your criminal history. Just
>>> show us ONE thing, with proof, that mr moore has on his web site about
>>> you that is incorrect. One. Just one. You say you have it, He says
>>> that you say you have it. Show it to us. Give us the opportunity to
>>> review the proof of the pudding and take mr moore to task for failing to
>>> live up to his often posted promise.
> NOTE: I am intentionally cross posting this to several other news groups,
> groups that kenny and moore have been spamming for years, in an attempt to
> get the users there to support this cause.
NO Ronny it's to give your bullshit a wider audience. People familiar with
Moore's bullshit claims. I gave examples of Moore's bullshit on his website
with the links, namely people he invented. What you do with that is
something I can't control. Meanwhile you can try to PROVE what you claimed
about me having a "criminal record" and DUI convictions. I await that proof
or an admission that you were wrong. I am betting we shall never see either!
Ron
You are running out of time there kenny. Since you have all that
evidence at hand, or so you say, please post it so that we can review it
and then ask mr moore to shut down his web page. Its your name being
dragged through the mud, not mine. I am offering you the oppertinuty to
post the proof and get the web page taken down. I am willing to go
through the effort necessary to review the information and task mr moore
with living up to his word. And of course all of the efforts afterwards
if he refuses. Its not costing you a dam thing kenny, all you have to
do is provide the proof that you say you already have and I (and a few
others here) will do the rest. Its an honest offer ken, you wont get a
better one this year.
Ron
KRP
>>>>>> Ronny - nice shifting of the burden of proof. You want me to
>>>>>> prove I do
>>>>>> NOT have that HUGE criminal history Moore and YOU claim. Nice TRY.
>>>>> I offered:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, I don't want to know anything about your criminal history. Just
>>>>> show us ONE thing, with proof, that mr moore has on his web site about
>>>>> you that is incorrect. One. Just one. You say you have it, He says
>>>>> that you say you have it. Show it to us. Give us the opportunity to
>>>>> review the proof of the pudding and take mr moore to task for failing
>>>>> to live up to his often posted promise.
>>
>>> NOTE: I am intentionally cross posting this to several other news
>>> groups, groups that kenny and moore have been spamming for years, in an
>>> attempt to get the users there to support this cause.
>>
>> NO Ronny it's to give your bullshit a wider audience. People familiar
>> with Moore's bullshit claims. I gave examples of Moore's bullshit on his
>> website with the links, namely people he invented. What you do with that
>> is something I can't control. Meanwhile you can try to PROVE what you
>> claimed about me having a "criminal record" and DUI convictions. I await
>> that proof or an admission that you were wrong. I am betting we shall
>> never see either!
>>
>
> You are running out of time there kenny. Since you have all that evidence
> at hand, or so you say, please post it so that we can review it
So you think I should prove that your claims of me having a criminal record
is something *I* must prove to be false? Nice try Ron. Of course you and
your pals are becoming increasingly insane. Some folks are keeping tabs on
your hysterical efforts to GET THE GOODS on me. You bunch are getting more
and more frantic in your searches. Ron - you lack the IQ to figure out why
after almost 2 months you people are sitting there empty handed. It's WAY
over your head to the point you have become paralyzed- I OWN you guys.
Ron
Could you be more obtuse?
No kenny. You pick the thing that you choose to prove incorrect.
Anything on mr moore's web site that is about you, specifically, that is
in error or a lie. Provide the proof you say you have and let us do the
rest.
Would you like to get rid of mr moore's web site? Have him off your
case for good? Here is you chance. It was his offer, he is the one
that offered to shut down the web site if you could prove that something
he says about you on that site is incorrect. I am willing to give you
the oppertunity to prove it to us and then WE can get him to stick to
his word.
I cant make that offer any more clear. If you continue to obfuscate the
issue then we must assume that you have no such proof, that everything
mr moore writes about you is accurate, and that you are indeed a fraud
and a liar.
> Of course you and
> your pals are becoming increasingly insane. Some folks are keeping tabs on
> your hysterical efforts to GET THE GOODS on me.
We already "have the goods" on you kenny. This is your chance to show
us the goods on mr moore and remove an irritant from your life. Show us
what you have dude, or STFU and go away. Your choice.
Ron
KRP
>> So you think I should prove that your claims of me having a criminal
>> record is something *I* must prove to be false? Nice try Ron.
>
> Could you be more obtuse?
> No kenny. You pick the thing that you choose to prove incorrect. Anything
> on mr moore's web site that is about you, specifically, that is in error
> or a lie. Provide the proof you say you have and let us do the rest.
Have done that. Again what of the claims of my criminal record? Have you
seen ANY proof it is true yet? The DUI's? Easy to find IF the claims were
true.
You folks have looked. Come up with anything yet? Even ONE DUI? Even an
ARREST for it? Let's forget about convictions. EVEN AN ARREST?
Ron
KRP wrote:
> "Ron" <apositi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:ku8Qi.3751$5b2....@newsfe19.lga...
>
>>> So you think I should prove that your claims of me having a criminal
>>> record is something *I* must prove to be false? Nice try Ron.
>> Could you be more obtuse?
>
>> No kenny. You pick the thing that you choose to prove incorrect. Anything
>> on mr moore's web site that is about you, specifically, that is in error
>> or a lie. Provide the proof you say you have and let us do the rest.
>
> Have done that. Again what of the claims of my criminal record? Have you
> seen ANY proof it is true yet? The DUI's? Easy to find IF the claims were
> true.
Done it 'eh? Where? When? Why cant I see it? Why didn't you provide
it here? Its an honest offer ken, and time is running out. If you like
you can email it to me rather than put it in a news group.
Quit avoiding the request ken, either provide the info or say you wont.
Why would be nice as well, but then again I dont expect nice. Stop
obfuscating and show me the money. You say you have it, lets see it.
Ron
KRP
>>
>>>> So you think I should prove that your claims of me having a criminal
>>>> record is something *I* must prove to be false? Nice try Ron.
>>> Could you be more obtuse?> Quit avoiding the request ken, either provide
>>> the info or say you wont.
> Why would be nice as well, but then again I dont expect nice. Stop
> obfuscating and show me the money. You say you have it, lets see it.
Where's your PROOF of my VAST VAST VAST VAST Criminal record Ron? All those
DUI's you and your boyfriend Moore SWEAR I have?
Moore's had 10 years to post his proof. You've had a month.
Greegor
> "Ron" <apositivepl...@netscape.net> wrote in message
Ron, since you were a cop, why don't you use your old
LEO connections to get an NCIC report on Ken?
How LONG would it take for you to come up with that information?
Dan Sullivan
Do you really think a retired policeman for no good reason can access
NCIC?
Citations?
Kent Wills
Sullivan <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote:
[...]
>> > Where's your PROOF of my VAST VAST VAST VAST Criminal record Ron? All those
>> > DUI's you and your boyfriend Moore SWEAR I have?
>> > Moore's had 10 years to post his proof. You've had a month.
>>
>> Ron, since you were a cop, why don't you use your old
>> LEO connections to get an NCIC report on Ken?
>
>Do you really think a retired policeman for no good reason can access
>NCIC?
>
>Citations?
Probably not, but said retired policeman *might* know some
people still on the force who can access it.
I don't know how legal it would be, but it could be done.
--
Kent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJfS1v-fU0
Dan Sullivan
> As was fortold by the sage, on Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:05:09 -0700, Dan
>
>
> [...]
>
> >> > Where's your PROOF of my VAST VAST VAST VAST Criminal record Ron? All those
> >> > DUI's you and your boyfriend Moore SWEAR I have?
> >> > Moore's had 10 years to post his proof. You've had a month.
>
> >> Ron, since you were a cop, why don't you use your old
> >> LEO connections to get an NCIC report on Ken?
>
> >Do you really think a retired policeman for no good reason can access
> >NCIC?
>
> >Citations?
>
> Probably not, but said retired policeman *might* know some
> people still on the force who can access it.
> I don't know how legal it would be, but it could be done.
> --
> Kenthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJfS1v-fU0
I doubt it would be worth the potential cost for either.
Greegor
KRP > Moore's had 10 years to post his proof. You've had a month.
G > Ron, since you were a cop, why don't you use your old
G > LEO connections to get an NCIC report on Ken?
DS > Do you really think a retired policeman for
DS > no good reason can access NCIC?
DS >
DS > Citations?
Didn't he make any friends on the force?
Kent Wills
<Gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem is the legality of it. While it certainly *could*
be done, it would be illegal.
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/is/ncic.htm
--
Kent
A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
firemonkey
> As was fortold by the sage, on 15 Oct 2007 21:10:51 -0700, Greegor
>
Here we have another example of who greg scott hanson is.. his mindset
appears to be so criminal that he automatically assumes others would
break the law, for him no less, ROFL
Dan Sullivan
That's not a citation, greg.
KRP
news:1192482267....@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>> >>>> So you think I should prove that your claims of me having a criminal
>> >>>> record is something *I* must prove to be false? Nice try Ron.
>> >>> Could you be more obtuse?> Quit avoiding the request ken, either
>> >>> provide
>> >>> the info or say you wont.
>> > Why would be nice as well, but then again I dont expect nice. Stop
>> > obfuscating and show me the money. You say you have it, lets see it.
>>
>> Where's your PROOF of my VAST VAST VAST VAST Criminal record Ron? All
>> those
>> DUI's you and your boyfriend Moore SWEAR I have?
>> Moore's had 10 years to post his proof. You've had a month.
>
> Ron, since you were a cop, why don't you use your old
> LEO connections to get an NCIC report on Ken?
>
> How LONG would it take for you to come up with that information?
He already HAS used his contacts, but isn't honest enough to explain his
frustration HERE!
They have had TWO MONTHS to "get the goods on Pangborn" and SO FAR? Even
with the best of David Moore's help????
The lack of sound is deafening.. Must anyone wonder why?
KRP
"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1192489509.8...@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Ah but when you are on the trail of a "MASTER CRIMINAL" Ronny they can.
TWIT - I have several friends who are retired cops. They can get anything
they want. Sorry you guys need excuses.
KRP
"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fc78h39frn2u1u47b...@4ax.com...
>
>>> > Where's your PROOF of my VAST VAST VAST VAST Criminal record Ron? All
>>> > those
>>> > DUI's you and your boyfriend Moore SWEAR I have?
>>> > Moore's had 10 years to post his proof. You've had a month.
>>>
>>> Ron, since you were a cop, why don't you use your old
>>> LEO connections to get an NCIC report on Ken?
>>
>>Do you really think a retired policeman for no good reason can access
>>NCIC?
>>
>>Citations?
>
> Probably not, but said retired policeman *might* know some
> people still on the force who can access it.
> I don't know how legal it would be, but it could be done.
It is legal, what you do with it might NOT be. So what's the excuse for NOT
proving the claim of my great criminal history and DUI's? They admit trying.
So? It's easy. The claim is also that I shot and killed a Salt Lake City
cop. Do you think that IF that were true it would be difficult to find in
minutes?
So why can't they find ANY of the proof of the claims?
KRP
>
>>KRP > DUI's you and your boyfriend Moore SWEAR I have?
>>KRP > Moore's had 10 years to post his proof. You've had a month.
>>
>>G > Ron, since you were a cop, why don't you use your old
>>G > LEO connections to get an NCIC report on Ken?
>>
>>DS > Do you really think a retired policeman for
>>DS > no good reason can access NCIC?
>>DS >
>>DS > Citations?
>>
>>Didn't he make any friends on the force?
>
> The problem is the legality of it. While it certainly *could*
> be done, it would be illegal.
Not IF they were HOT ON THE TRAIL of a MASTER CRIMINAL!
dragonsgirl
"KRP" <web2...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:gq4Ri.970$H92.18@trnddc07...
You wouldn't suggest that law enforcement would check the criminal history
of someone based on a reqest by a friend, give that friend the findings, and
then cover it up the illegality of it with an excuse such as that, would
you?
That is totally absurd.
I would not lose my job such silliness, I doubt any officer who took his job
seriously would either.
KRP
"dragonsgirl" <drago...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:JA4Ri.6353$lE2....@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>KRP > DUI's you and your boyfriend Moore SWEAR I have?
>>>>KRP > Moore's had 10 years to post his proof. You've had a month.
>>>>
>>>>G > Ron, since you were a cop, why don't you use your old
>>>>G > LEO connections to get an NCIC report on Ken?
>>>>
>>>>DS > Do you really think a retired policeman for
>>>>DS > no good reason can access NCIC?
>>>>DS >
>>>>DS > Citations?
>>>>
>>>>Didn't he make any friends on the force?
>>>
>>> The problem is the legality of it. While it certainly *could*
>>> be done, it would be illegal.
>> Not IF they were HOT ON THE TRAIL of a MASTER CRIMINAL!
> You wouldn't suggest that law enforcement would check the criminal history
> of someone based on a reqest by a friend, give that friend the findings,
> and then cover it up the illegality of it with an excuse such as that,
> would you?
> That is totally absurd.
> I would not lose my job such silliness, I doubt any officer who took his
> job seriously would either.
Well if it came to light it might be hard, BUT, if there were some
suggestion of criminal activity, there'd not be a question.
Since I am supposed to be this INTERNATIONAL MASTER CRIMINAL there should be
NO problem. Coule be arranging a BIG BUST, who knows?
A Internet STING! You figure it out Betty. I am sure some excuse can be
found.
dragonsgirl
Please! Ken.
I'm not looking for an excuse.
I'm just rying to figure out why someone would even attempt to do something
so stupid.
>
>
>
KRP
You tell me. I'm not the OBSESSED one trying to "GET THE GOODS" on
somebody so I can play BADASS on a newsgroup. That's folks in your little
POSSE and you keep coming up with handfuls of AIR, and the funny thing is
that NONE of you has the brains to figure out why! I am amused at seeing
your HYSTERICAL efforts and not even the slightest recognition of why you
can't find anything. Not even the faintest glimmer of a CLUE! Like a bunch
of dogs chewing frantically on their own tails and NO understanding of where
the pain is coming from. What's worse, Betty, there seems to be NO HOPE that
any of you will EVER catch on.
dragonsgirl
No, what's worse is that you call yourself a successful trial consultant and
then group people with the bias that you do.
You'll note that in your pargraph above YOU talk to ME as if I am EVERYONE.
FYI......
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/is/ncic.htm
... PURPOSE: The purpose for maintaining the NCIC system is to provide a
computerized database for ready access by a criminal justice agency
making an inquiry and for prompt disclosure of information in the system
from other criminal justice agencies about crimes and criminals. This
information assists authorized agencies in criminal justice and related
law enforcement objectives, such as apprehending fugitives, locating
missing persons, locating and returning stolen property, as well as in
the protection of the law enforcement officers encountering the
individuals described in the system.
ACCESS CONSTRAINTS: All records in NCIC are protected from unauthorized
access through appropriate administrative, physical, and technical
safeguards. These safeguards include restricting access to those with a
need to know to perform their official duties, and using locks, alarm
devices, passwords, and/or encrypting data communications.
USE CONSTRAINTS: Users of the NCIC system will be restricted to only
those privileges necessary to perform an authorized task(s). ...
And that, I think, just might be classified as a felony.
>
>
Dan Sullivan
> "dragonsgirl" <dragonsg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
No, you just accuse people of saying things they never said and when
they ask for you to post the link to their supposed accusations you
FAIL to provide any credible evidence that they did... similarly as
you do with all the bulkshit on your websites when people ask for
proof... you fail to substantiate the "information."
Why is your name on the Wall of Tolerance, kenny boy?
> That's folks in your little
> POSSE and you keep coming up with handfuls of AIR, and the funny thing is
> that NONE of you has the brains to figure out why! I am amused at seeing
> your HYSTERICAL efforts and not even the slightest recognition of why you
> can't find anything. Not even the faintest glimmer of a CLUE! Like a bunch
> of dogs chewing frantically on their own tails and NO understanding of where
> the pain is coming from. What's worse, Betty, there seems to be NO HOPE that
> any of you will EVER catch on.
We all caught on, kenny boy, you're a lying, pig-looking, third-rate
bulkshitter.
And the evidence is ALL OVER your websites.
KRP
You group yourself honeybuns. You spew the same crap as Danny, Ronnie
and Kane.
KRP
But you DID say them.
> Why is your name on the Wall of Tolerance, kenny boy?
Asked and answered jackass.
dragonsgirl
Aw, ken, come on old buddy old pal...I am just asking for my own knowledge.
I WOULD have asked you privately, but what with all the accusations of
stalking and what not, I just didn't want to be accused of same.
>
>
>
>
KRP
Asked me what privately? A civil question? Betty pardon me if I just do
NOT buy you as my news bestest buddy and pal!
Dan Sullivan
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
Prove it. Post the link.
> > Why is your name on the Wall of Tolerance, kenny boy?
>
> Asked and answered jackass.
You a self-glorifying third-rate bulkshitter, and if there's any
reason other than you making a pledge against intolerance to get your
name on the wall, post the link!
Or you can go back to sticking your nose in the trough.
dragonsgirl
Ken, you really misunderstand me!
I'm crushed!
I'm a reasonable person.
Although you may have been (con)vinced otherwise.
Really!
I just don't have the hate, loathing, contempt for you that you seem to
believe I have.
In fact, I don't hate anyone.
It's such a harsh word to be used in expression of your feelings for others,
isn't it?
I can give you examples to prove that I don't hate you, and in fact, even
dislike you, I feel pretty much nothing for you.
I'm an unbiased person, Ken. I can see near everything from both sides,
understand the impact to both sides, and understand the reasoning of both
sides.
I use the word 'if' alot. That's because there are many things in life I am
uncertain of.
Take you for example.
You seem to be a pretty knowledgable man. Seems to me that 'if' you work to
help others who have been falsely accused in legal matters, then that's
awesome. However, 'if' I'm reading you correctly in this newsgroup, you
don't present much in the way of professionalism. That web site about you
has no bearing on my opinions. The only things that I actually looked at
there were your legal records and I did listen to that silly audio.
Can I weigh one issue against another?
Sure!
Your personality vs your ability to help people.
No hard choice there...'if' the issue is simply your personality.
There are accusations that you have conned people into contracting for your
services...
'if' that is true, then things change a little...it goes beyond simply
personality clash.
'If' those claims are untrue, then I would think your self respect would
prevent you from spending so much time trying to counter accusations that
are untrue.
I don't know what is true, and what isn't.
I do like to have faith in people and basic goodness.
Sometimes that's impossible, I've learned.
Sometimes there's a healthy mix of good and bad.
Some people are just saints...like me old gramma.
For me, confusion comes into play when one exhibits behaviors that would
make near anything said about them plausible.
As far as you go, Ken...I'm on the fence, really. I don't necessarily think
you're a bad guy doing bad things, but I also don't think you're a good guy
doing good things.
Does that make sense to you?
So, best friend, no. Neither enemy.
Personally, I just don't believe I've seen or know enough of you to form a
solid opinion.
Here are some things I do know:
I know that you have contact with Greg.
I know that Greg has accused me of stalking and harassment in the past.
Given that, why would I contact you privately?
I certainly don't want to be accused of stalking and harrassment again!
In fact, when I was first accused I had done nothing that could be construed
as stalking or harrassment.
I certainly never privately contacted the individual.
I never visited the individual's home, or hunted down legal records on the
individual.
I didn't even call the individual's place of employment.
I did absolutely nothing but take part in internet discussions about issues
surrounding the individual.
And yet, I was accused of stalking and harrassment...though no proof of that
exists...
Now, why would I contact you privately to give someone PROOF that I did so?
So that more accusations could be launched?
Nah. I'm not stupid.
If you ever want to tell me your side of things, feel free.
You may do so privately as well.
I guarantee that nothing you say to me privately will be revealed publicly,
or to others.
That's just the kinda gal I am.
Over the last few years I have had people that I didn't even know from Adam
pour out their hearts to me...and never do I divulge their personal
information to another person.
I believe in holding up to my end of implied confidentiality.
Some people call that lying.
I call it exactly what it is...minding my own business.
Remember, just because I don't contact you, doesn't mean you can't contact
me.
>
>
Dan Sullivan
dragonsgirl
<GASP!>
Greg asked you a question!
On USENET!
He's stalking you Dan!
>
Kent Wills
<web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
[...]
>>> You tell me. I'm not the OBSESSED one trying to "GET THE GOODS" on
>>> somebody so I can play BADASS on a newsgroup.
>
>> No, you just accuse people of saying things they never said and when
>> they ask for you to post the link to their supposed accusations you
>> FAIL to provide any credible evidence that they did... similarly as
>> you do with all the bulkshit on your websites when people ask for
>> proof... you fail to substantiate the "information."
>
> But you DID say them.
>
Ok. Then you should be able to post the MID for the post, or a
link to it on Google.
>
>> Why is your name on the Wall of Tolerance, kenny boy?
>
> Asked and answered jackass.
I missed the answer. Would you repeat it for me, and anyone
else who is new? Thanks.
--
Kent
"The war for the future will be fought in the past."
-- Jordan Collier
Kent Wills
firemonkey <mehit...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
>> >DS > Do you really think a retired policeman for
>> >DS > no good reason can access NCIC?
>> >DS >
>> >DS > Citations?
>>
>> >Didn't he make any friends on the force?
>>
>> The problem is the legality of it. While it certainly *could*
>> be done, it would be illegal.
>>
>> http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/is/ncic.htm
>>
>
>Here we have another example of who greg scott hanson is.. his mindset
>appears to be so criminal that he automatically assumes others would
>break the law, for him no less, ROFL
I can't imagine anyone thinking Greg is worthy of breaking the
law.
For the record, I can't imagine anyone thinking I'm worthy of
it either.
--
Kent
Recuerdo del Fin Del Mundo!
Kent Wills
<web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
[...]
>>> Ron, since you were a cop, why don't you use your old
>>> LEO connections to get an NCIC report on Ken?
>>
>> Do you really think a retired policeman for no good reason can access
>> NCIC?
>
>
>Ah but when you are on the trail of a "MASTER CRIMINAL" Ronny they can.
I admit I don't pay all that much attention to posts about
you, but when has ANYONE claimed you're a "master criminal?"
>TWIT - I have several friends who are retired cops. They can get anything
>they want. Sorry you guys need excuses.
No one has claimed the information can't be found. The
problem is the legality of searching it. That your alleged friends
are willing to violate the law says a great deal. None of it good.
--
Kent
Aspire to inspire before you expire.
Kent Wills
<web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
[...]
>>
>> Probably not, but said retired policeman *might* know some
>> people still on the force who can access it.
>> I don't know how legal it would be, but it could be done.
>
>
>It is legal, what you do with it might NOT be.
No it's not. I posted a link to a site I found explaining
this.
Here's the link again, in case you missed it:
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/is/ncic.htm
>So what's the excuse for NOT
>proving the claim of my great criminal history and DUI's?
When have I ever made such claims? Can you post the MIDs for
the messages and/or Google links?
I've got $10,000.00 that says you can't. You game?
>They admit trying.
>So? It's easy. The claim is also that I shot and killed a Salt Lake City
>cop. Do you think that IF that were true it would be difficult to find in
>minutes?
>So why can't they find ANY of the proof of the claims?
I'm more interested in your lie that I claimed you have a
great criminal record and DUIs. I've never made any such claims,
directly or through implication.
Is there any particular reason you need to lie about such a
thing?
--
Kent
"I most stonger than Darth Vapor!"
-- Zladko "Zlad" Vladcik
Kent Wills
<web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
Even then it would be.
See:
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/is/ncic.htm
--
Kent
No todos los que ven tus obras ven tus virtudes.
Kent Wills
<web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
When has anyone claimed you're a master criminal (I like the
addition of international, BTW).
>A Internet STING! You figure it out Betty. I am sure some excuse can be
>found.
>
It's still illegal.
dragonsgirl
"The One True Roger" <love...@gawab.com> wrote in message
news:kmoah35qos5hdonu2...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:36:49 GMT, "KRP" <web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>> No, you just accuse people of saying things they never said and when
>>> they ask for you to post the link to their supposed accusations you
>>> FAIL to provide any credible evidence that they did... similarly as
>>> you do with all the bulkshit on your websites when people ask for
>>> proof... you fail to substantiate the "information."
>>
>> But you DID say them.
>
>
Oh, I see!
You want one of our secret decoder rings too, huh?
Man, they're spiff from what I hear. I haven't gotten mine yet.
It's in the mail.
But the 'keeper of the rings' has assured me that I can decode nonsense
spewed by conspiracy theorists when I get it.
I can see why anyone would covet them.
Long Live The Grannie Brigade!
>
> --
> "What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of
> liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
> patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
> - Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787
>
> "The best propaganda omits rather than invents" - Mason Cooley
Kent Wills
"dragonsgirl" <drago...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>"The One True Roger" <love...@gawab.com> wrote in message
>news:kmoah35qos5hdonu2...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:36:49 GMT, "KRP" <web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> No, you just accuse people of saying things they never said and when
>>>> they ask for you to post the link to their supposed accusations you
>>>> FAIL to provide any credible evidence that they did... similarly as
>>>> you do with all the bulkshit on your websites when people ask for
>>>> proof... you fail to substantiate the "information."
>>>
>>> But you DID say them.
>>
>>
>> I'm going with the majority, post your proof.
>
>Oh, I see!
>You want one of our secret decoder rings too, huh?
They're more in demand than the iPhone.
>Man, they're spiff from what I hear. I haven't gotten mine yet.
>It's in the mail.
I'm still drinking my Ovalteen. A few more containers and
I'll be able to send for mine.
>But the 'keeper of the rings' has assured me that I can decode nonsense
>spewed by conspiracy theorists when I get it.
>I can see why anyone would covet them.
>
I just want to know what Little Orphan Annie is saying each
week.
BTW, my radio is really OLD :-)
>Long Live The Grannie Brigade!
>
I'm so stealing that! :)
--
Kent
dragonsgirl
Kent, assuming your name implies that you're male, I highly doubt you
qualify for membership!
But we can branch out...How about the Gramps Brigade working on conjunction
with the Secret Order of The Grannie Brigade?
(we get top billing)
LOL
Kent Wills
"dragonsgirl" <drago...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>Long Live The Grannie Brigade!
>>>
>>
>> I'm so stealing that! :)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kent
>> Long Live The Grannie Brigade!
>
>Kent, assuming your name implies that you're male,
Hold on. I'll check.
Yep. I'm male. My wife keeps up to date on such things :)
>I highly doubt you
>qualify for membership!
Hey! That's total sexual discrimination.
Just for that, I'm going to see to it you're bared from
membership in the Hair Club for Men! :)
>But we can branch out...How about the Gramps Brigade working on conjunction
>with the Secret Order of The Grannie Brigade?
>(we get top billing)
Well, that should go without saying.
>LOL
--
Kent
Long Live The Grannie (and its subset, Gramps) Brigade!
Greegor
my eleven year old misdemeanor domestics over and over.
I wonder if she'll believe your "false birthday" story!
She'd have a COW if she figures out you're a FELON!
I suspect she'll overlook that if you threaten me though.
Kent Wills
<Gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Kent: You should know that Firemonkey has posted
>my eleven year old misdemeanor domestics over and over.
There are new people to the topic.
>
>I wonder if she'll believe your "false birthday" story!
She's shown herself to be smart enough not to buy anything you
spew.
>
>She'd have a COW if she figures out you're a FELON!
If I'm a felon, how is it that I *LEGALLY* own a modern
firearm? How is it I can LEGALLY vote? How is it that I can LEGALLY
leave the U.S. with no more or less restrictions than anyone else?
>
>I suspect she'll overlook that if you threaten me though.
I suspect that since I treat her with respect, she isn't going
to care about what I may or may not have done.
Maybe, just maybe, if you had the ability to treat others with
respect, no one would care if you did or did not commit domestic
assault, child abuse, and assorted other things.
You have only yourself to blame.
Dan Sullivan
> Kent: You should know that Firemonkey has posted
> my eleven year old misdemeanor domestics over and over.
Because you've been claiming over and over since 2001 that you did
nothing inappropriate to Lisa Watkins' little girl... when you have a
history of abusing defenseless people as exampled by two convictions
for domestic abuse... and all the while you've been admitting doing
terrible things to her.
firemonkey
greggor,
your whining again, I'm just playin with the rules you set up for
us.Not my fault you picked the WRONG woman and her daughter to mess
with.
I just think woman beating, little girl raping pedophiles are the
lowest form of life and people should know who they are.. They have as
much right to know this as I do to tell them, since all the
information comes from YOU jackass.
Your trying to run with the big dogs again and again getting
trampled.
Whoever Kent is, he's got the drop on you, give up now before he makes
a complete ass out of you, again.. and again... and again.
KRP
>> Asked me what privately? A civil question? Betty pardon me if I just
>> do NOT buy you as my news bestest buddy and pal!
>
> Ken, you really misunderstand me!
> I'm crushed!
> I'm a reasonable person.
SURE you are!!
KRP
"The One True Roger" <love...@gawab.com> wrote in message
news:kmoah35qos5hdonu2...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:36:49 GMT, "KRP" <web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>> they ask for you to post the link to their supposed accusations you
>>> FAIL to provide any credible evidence that they did... similarly as
>>> you do with all the bulkshit on your websites when people ask for
>>> proof... you fail to substantiate the "information."
>>
>> But you DID say them.
>
>
>
Look at the posting history in Google.
KRP
>>> Do you really think a retired policeman for no good reason can access
>>> NCIC?
>>
>>
>>Ah but when you are on the trail of a "MASTER CRIMINAL" Ronny they can.
> I admit I don't pay all that much attention to posts about
> you, but when has ANYONE claimed you're a "master criminal?"
Oh I am making fun of them and their desperation to prove I have a
criminal record. The one they can't find.
>>TWIT - I have several friends who are retired cops. They can get anything
>>they want. Sorry you guys need excuses.
>
> No one has claimed the information can't be found. The
> problem is the legality of searching it. That your alleged friends
> are willing to violate the law says a great deal. None of it good.
Any PI could find it in an hour. So could anyone, the criminal history
is available online in Florida.
KRP
>>>
>>>>KRP > DUI's you and your boyfriend Moore SWEAR I have?
>>>>KRP > Moore's had 10 years to post his proof. You've had a month.
>>>>
>>>>G > Ron, since you were a cop, why don't you use your old
>>>>G > LEO connections to get an NCIC report on Ken?
>>>>
>>>>DS > Do you really think a retired policeman for
>>>>DS > no good reason can access NCIC?
>>>>DS >
>>>>DS > Citations?
>>>>
>>>>Didn't he make any friends on the force?
>>>
>>> The problem is the legality of it. While it certainly *could*
>>> be done, it would be illegal.
>>
>>
>>Not IF they were HOT ON THE TRAIL of a MASTER CRIMINAL!
>>
>
> Even then it would be.
> See:
>
> http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/is/ncic.htm
So have YOU found anything on me?
KRP
A SUPER MASTER INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL MASTERMIND!
freedom
On 16 Oct 2007, Greegor <Gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Kent: You should know that Firemonkey has posted
>my eleven year old misdemeanor domestics over and over.
Like your hundreds of posts ranting about the "puppet bear"? Or your
falsely alleging my use of Hipcrime software or VOIP hacking, repeated
dozens of times in the hopes that it will become true?
>
>I wonder if she'll believe your "false birthday" story!
>
>She'd have a COW if she figures out you're a FELON!
Better keep her far away from Ken, then.
>
>I suspect she'll overlook that if you threaten me though.
I would.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about a fraud from Palm Harbor, Florida
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Kent Wills
<web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
So you can't offer any proof as requested.
Anyone surprised?
--
Kent
Bless me, Father, for I have committed an original sin.
I poked a badger with a spoon.
Kent Wills
firemonkey <mehit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 17, 7:40 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 17, 2:06 am, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Kent: You should know that Firemonkey has posted
>> > my eleven year old misdemeanor domestics over and over.
>>
>> Because you've been claiming over and over since 2001 that you did
>> nothing inappropriate to Lisa Watkins' little girl... when you have a
>> history of abusing defenseless people as exampled by two convictions
>> for domestic abuse... and all the while you've been admitting doing
>> terrible things to her.
>
>greggor,
>your whining again, I'm just playin with the rules you set up for
>us.Not my fault you picked the WRONG woman and her daughter to mess
>with.
>I just think woman beating, little girl raping pedophiles are the
>lowest form of life and people should know who they are..
WHOA!
When has Greg been accused of raping anyone of any age? He
was found to have abused the girl, but no where did I see anything
about the abuse being sexual.
> They have as
>much right to know this as I do to tell them, since all the
>information comes from YOU jackass.
>Your trying to run with the big dogs again and again getting
>trampled.
>Whoever Kent is, he's got the drop on you, give up now before he makes
>a complete ass out of you, again.. and again... and again.
>
I don't know any more than anyone else at this point. And I
don't expect DHS will violate the confidentiality laws for me.
I did ask, but was told they couldn't confirm or deny anything
in regards to any investigation that did or did not occur. To be
honest, I expect to hear something like that.
Kent Wills
<web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
I don't have access to NCIC. Further, I've never claimed I
did.
I do know law enforcement personnel who do have access, but
I'm not going to ask them to look. They would say no anyway, so
there's no gain in it.
--
Kent is awl that matters on the usenets and awl that matters to the
Wereos!!! if you see so!
http://snurl.com/1robu
KRP
>> So have YOU found anything on me?
> I don't have access to NCIC. Further, I've never claimed I did.
> I do know law enforcement personnel who do have access, but
> I'm not going to ask them to look. They would say no anyway, so
> there's no gain in it.
Here is a clue. In FLORIDA - criminal court records are ON LINE as
public records. Some of the ASSHOLES here - in FACT four of them have looked
and looked and looked and looked and looked and looked and looked and looked
and looked and looked and looked and looked and looked and looked and looked
and looked and for more than 2 months have only bleary eyes for the effort.
Allegedly I am a "REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER" in Wisconsin and Florida. Both
states have their registries ON LINE! They are convinced that because my
name does NOT appear on either that I MUST BE guilty! ABSOLUTELY MUST BE!
One has used his CPS job to research me and comes away with only a sweaty
palm. Why do you suppose with all these GREAT master sleuths, these INTERNET
Investigators are not able to find anything more on me than a speeding
ticket? Hey a couple days ago - we got the best ANSWER from one of the
losers so far, that was they are SURE --- 100% POSITIVE that I did all kinds
of bad shit when I was young and they didn't keep records WAY BACK THEN!
I just LOVE the bullshit here.
Here - I'll repeat a clue. The simple answer, the reason they can't find
anything is because THERE IS NOTHING TO FIND! But we have some WHACKOS here
that are 1 MILLION percent positive that there MUST BE! They just KNOW it
in their bones and NOBODY or nothing will EVER convince them otherwise. It's
a religious thing with these whack jobs!
KRP
>>>
>>>>> No, you just accuse people of saying things they never said and when
>>>>> they ask for you to post the link to their supposed accusations you
>>>>> FAIL to provide any credible evidence that they did... similarly as
>>>>> you do with all the bulkshit on your websites when people ask for
>>>>> proof... you fail to substantiate the "information."
>>>>
>>>> But you DID say them.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm going with the majority, post your proof.
>>>
>>
>>Look at the posting history in Google.
>>
>
> So you can't offer any proof as requested.
> Anyone surprised?
I' not your little doggie to play FETCH for you. Jesus Christ the assholes
even repeated it on a daily basis and you want me to go back to prove they
said something 2 months ago that they said yesterday?
Ron
Ron wrote:
> Kenny wrote:
> > Ronny - nice shifting of the burden of proof. You want me to
> prove I do
> > NOT have that HUGE criminal history Moore and YOU claim. Nice TRY.
> >
>
> I offered:
>
> Nope, I don't want to know anything about your criminal history. Just
> show us ONE thing, with proof, that mr moore has on his web site about
> you that is incorrect. One. Just one. You say you have it, He says
> that you say you have it. Show it to us. Give us the opportunity to
> review the proof of the pudding and take mr moore to task for failing to
> live up to his often posted promise.
>
> Or don't, and we can all draw our own conclusions about the veracity of
> mr moores claims. And your claims as well. Willing to take the gamble
> kenny? Willing to put it on the line, your word against mr moore's?
> With this entire news group as the jury?
>
> Of course if you don't want to do that we can draw our own conclusions,
> after all this is your chance to get rid of his web site once and for
> all, and his chance to prove to the news group that everything he has
> said about you is correct and accurate.
>
> Come on kenny, show us the money!
>
> Ron
Time is nearly up ken. We have been waiting for quite some time now,
and still you refuse to provide that which you say you have.
Please. I'm asking quite nicely. Give us the evidence that proves that
something, anything, specifically about you on mr moore's web site is
incorrect or inaccurate. Email it to me if necessary, just take the few
moments necessary to send it.
Ron
KRP
"Ron" <apositi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:4SqSi.9740$sO1....@newsfe17.lga...
:
>> > Ronny - nice shifting of the burden of proof. You want me to prove
>> I do
>> > NOT have that HUGE criminal history Moore and YOU claim. Nice TRY.
>> >
>>
>> I offered:
>>
>> Nope, I don't want to know anything about your criminal history. Just
>> show us ONE thing, with proof, that mr moore has on his web site about
>> you that is incorrect. One. Just one. You say you have it, He says that
>> you say you have it. Show it to us. Give us the opportunity to review
>> the proof of the pudding and take mr moore to task for failing to live up
>> to his often posted promise.
>>
>> Or don't, and we can all draw our own conclusions about the veracity of
>> mr moores claims. And your claims as well. Willing to take the gamble
>> kenny? Willing to put it on the line, your word against mr moore's? With
>> this entire news group as the jury?
>>
>> Of course if you don't want to do that we can draw our own conclusions,
>> after all this is your chance to get rid of his web site once and for
>> all, and his chance to prove to the news group that everything he has
>> said about you is correct and accurate.
>>
>> Come on kenny, show us the money!
> Time is nearly up ken. We have been waiting for quite some time now, and
> still you refuse to provide that which you say you have.
Well let's see Ron - the LAWYER on his site is FAKE. Also it seems the
claims that I am a registered sex offender in Wisconsin and Florida come up
just a little short, not to mention the killing of that cop in Utah. You
want ME to prove I didn't do those things. Instead YOU prove I did Ronny or
demand that Moore prove it.
freedom
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007, Greegor <Gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>G > But you refused to publicly announce that
>G > and claimed it was "confidential"!
>
>BW > I REFUSED?
>BW > Please show proof that I REFUSED.
>
>G > Wouldn't it be easier to show that you PRODUCED?
>
>BW > Wouldn't it be easier to just admit that you lied about what I
>said?
>
>I didn't lie.
>You never in any form said the accusation was crap.
>
>You didnt "many times" state that Dave Moore is crazy.
>But you claimed that you said it many times!
>Where? In some butt crack somewhere?
>
>G > After all, your pack made the assertion of a criminal record,
>G > and you were CENTRAL to the orchestrated ""investigation"".
>
>BW > Yeah, ho-kay.
>
>Damn straight skippy!
>
>> > G >--- Here ya go! everything below without quotation marks
>> > G >------------
>> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
>> > From: "dragonsgirl" <dragonsg...@sbcglobal.net>
>> > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:00:25 -0500
>>
>> > Betty, you say you wouldn't tell if somebody
>> > was investigating him? So what?
>>
>> > Why then deny that somebody paid a PI
>> > to investigate him? Isn't the denial pointless?
>>
>> > You just said you wouldn't tell.
>>
>> > Would it not also be reasonable to expect
>> > that if you found evidence of Ken's innocence
>> > that you wouldn't tell THAT either, Betty?
>>
>> > No Greg, because I am at liberty to discuss my
>> > OWN findings any time I like. I am not, however,
>> > at liberty to discuss confidential information given
>> > to me by others. Is that a foreign concept to you?
>>
>> > KW > You're really desperate, Greg.
>> > KW > The context makes it clear she is NOT
>> > KW > referring to the Florida criminal database
>> > KW > but to anything someone may have sent her.
>>
>> > G > From another database...
>> > G > Remember the context IS about Ken's
>> > G > ""CRIMINAL"" history.
>> > G > What context did you think she was referring to?
>>
>> > BW > Does the context matter so much as the fact
>> > BW > that you did not ASK me to give you any
>> > BW > information that I REFUSED to give, as you asserted?
>
>Ken tormented you with requests for the proof of the
>stupid assertions. You chafed and whined about
>counties that are not computerized, a smokescreen
>to dance around the fact that the search came up EMPTY!
>
>Any reader could see you were DANCING for the pack.
>
>> > KW > 10 out of 10 for style, but negative
>> > KW > several million for honesty.
>>
>> > G > Kent, This is a central issue in a GROUP ATTACK
>> > G > and the group basically ALL
>>
>> > BW > Liar. ALL, means ALL.
>> > BW > Your supposed GROUP is me, Dan, Ron, Kane, and FM.
>> > BW > I have not seen Kane assert that Ken has a criminal history.
>> > BW > And I KNOW I haven't. So that's not 'basically ALL'.
>>
>> > Betty, YOU e-mailed internal coordination on the search.
>> > Wasn't there one or two MORE on your TO list?
>> > Apparently YOU thought they were ALL involved!
>>
>> Internal coodination?
>> LOL
>> OMG that is soooo effin funny!
>
>But you bypassed the 5/7 thing, sort
>of a duck and shuffle wouldn't you say?
>
>By the way, since 3 people in your pack
>jumped on Dave's bandwagon with this crap,
>had there been only 5 members it would
>have been 3/5 which is closer to 100% than
>3/7 is.
>
>
>G > asserted that Ken has a criminal history and
>G > a CPS history. This group has repeatedly
>G > made such false accusations or take what
>G > IS true and fabricate half truths.
>
>BW > The 'group' you speak of has done no such thing.
>BW > If you wish to lump us all together, at least
>BW > make it known that you are lying when you say
>BW > that ALL have done so and so and such and such.
>
>G > The central statement that she refused to provide
>G > the RESULTS of a search publicly is true.
>
DUI BOY
I never claimed otherwise. http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com claims only
that someone once made the post in question and signed the name in question
at the end of the post.
> Also it seems the
>claims that I am a registered sex offender in Wisconsin and Florida come up
>just a little short,
No such claim is made at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com.
> not to mention the killing of that cop in Utah.
No such claim is made at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com. Nor have I ever
claimed it elsewhere.
> You
>want ME to prove I didn't do those things. Instead YOU prove I did Ronny or
>demand that Moore prove it.
Anything else before you head out for your weekend DUI?
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about a fraud from Palm Harbor, Florida
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KRP
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:7d4f88451099b10b...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
> that someone once made the post in question and signed the name in
> question
> at the end of the post.
YOU MADE IT DAVEY. PROVE OTHERWISE!!! And your site DID once claim the
lawyer was once an associate of mine. You still have it up REPRESNETING it
as the TRUTH! PROVE such a lawyer exists Davey!
>> Also it seems the claims that I am a registered sex offender in Wisconsin
>> and Florida come up just a little short,
PROOF DAVEY? You made it Davey MANY TIMES............. PROOF?
>> not to mention the killing of that cop in Utah.
>
> No such claim is made at http://www.aboutken. Nor have I ever
> claimed it elsewhere.
LIAR!!!!!
>> You
>>want ME to prove I didn't do those things. Instead YOU prove I did Ronny
>>or
>>demand that Moore prove it.
>
> Anything else before you head out for your weekend DUI?
SO Davey where is the PROOF of all my alleged DUI's DAVEY!
Kent Wills
<web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
[...]
>>>> Time is nearly up ken. We have been waiting for quite some time now,
>>>> and
>>>> still you refuse to provide that which you say you have.
>>>
>>> Well let's see Ron - the LAWYER on his site is FAKE.
>>
>> I never claimed otherwise. http://www.aboutken claims only
>> that someone once made the post in question and signed the name in
>> question
>> at the end of the post.
>
>YOU MADE IT DAVEY. PROVE OTHERWISE!!!
You claim he made it. As such, it befalls you to prove your
claim.
>And your site DID once claim the
>lawyer was once an associate of mine. You still have it up REPRESNETING it
>as the TRUTH! PROVE such a lawyer exists Davey!
>
So no lawyer is associated with you? If so, this speaks well
for the legal community.
>>> Also it seems the claims that I am a registered sex offender in Wisconsin
>>> and Florida come up just a little short,
>
>PROOF DAVEY? You made it Davey MANY TIMES............. PROOF?
You claim he's made it, but when asked to offer evidence
(evidence would get others to help you in demanding that David support
his claim), you dance around it.
>
>>> not to mention the killing of that cop in Utah.
>>
>> No such claim is made at http://www.aboutken. Nor have I ever
>> claimed it elsewhere.
>
>LIAR!!!!!
>
Offer a link to the Google archive where such a claim is made.
If it was made only on the web site, offer a link to the
wayback machine archive.
>>> You
>>>want ME to prove I didn't do those things. Instead YOU prove I did Ronny
>>>or
>>>demand that Moore prove it.
>>
>> Anything else before you head out for your weekend DUI?
>
>SO Davey where is the PROOF of all my alleged DUI's DAVEY!
>
Ken makes a valid request.
David, you are, at the very least, implying that Ken is going
to drive while under the influence of alcohol. If he has a history of
doing this, then such a allegation would have a basis in fact.
However, if he does not, then there is no gain in making the
statement.
--
Kent
A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Ron
I can do that ken. Please provide links to the pages that say this.
That will make it a bit easier for me to track it.
Ron
freedom
KENNETH PANGBORN CHILD ABUSER
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, "KRP" <web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
>DIPSHIT DAVID MOORE
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:7d4f88451099b10b...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>> I never claimed otherwise. http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com claims only
>> that someone once made the post in question and signed the name in
>> question
>> at the end of the post.
I note that you altered the URL to http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com. Not to
worry, I put it back :)
>
>YOU MADE IT DAVEY. PROVE OTHERWISE!!! And your site DID once claim the
>lawyer was once an associate of mine.
No, http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com never made this claim. The only claim
made was that the archived post in question once appeared on usenet. In
fact, a disclaimer at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com specifically states
that I was not vouching for the accuracy of the post.
> You still have it up REPRESNETING it
>as the TRUTH!
No, I don't. I have the post up on http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
"REPRESNETING" that it was once published to usenet.
>PROVE such a lawyer exists Davey!
I don't care whether or not such a lawyer exists.
>
>>> Also it seems the claims that I am a registered sex offender in Wisconsin
>>> and Florida come up just a little short,
>
>PROOF DAVEY? You made it Davey MANY TIMES............. PROOF?
Has already been posted several times in other groups, in the past. Do
your own research.
>
>>> not to mention the killing of that cop in Utah.
>>
>> No such claim is made at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com. Nor have I ever
>> claimed it elsewhere.
>
>LIAR!!!!!
Feel free to post proof that I've ever made such a claim at
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com, or anywhere else.
>
>>> You
>>>want ME to prove I didn't do those things. Instead YOU prove I did Ronny
>>>or
>>>demand that Moore prove it.
>>
>> Anything else before you head out for your weekend DUI?
>
>SO Davey where is the PROOF of all my alleged DUI's DAVEY!
You've admitted to them in the past.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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KRP
>>And your site DID once claim the
>>lawyer was once an associate of mine. You still have it up REPRESNETING it
>>as the TRUTH! PROVE such a lawyer exists Davey!
>>
>
> So no lawyer is associated with you? If so, this speaks well
> for the legal community.
Kent, you troll, the point is that Davey claimed THAT lawyer was
associated with me. NO SUCH LAWYER EXISTS! He maintains the alleged post by
that NON-EXISTENT lawyer on his website. Thereby holding it to be TRUE.
Don't you think if it is proven that NO SUCH LAWYER ever existed he should
have removed the alleged post? Why does he keep it up there if not attesting
to its accuracy?
KRP
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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> KENNETH PANGBORN CHILD ABUSER
PROOF Moore????? Or will your ANGRILY DENY you made this allegation this
afterneoon like you do so many other of your BULLSHIT claims about me?
>>YOU MADE IT DAVEY. PROVE OTHERWISE!!! And your site DID once claim the
>>lawyer was once an associate of mine.
>
> No, http://www.aboutken never made this claim. The only claim
> made was that the archived post in question once appeared on usenet.
Yet you KNOW the claims to be FALSE and you KNOW that no such lawyer
EVER existed, yet you keep it on your website allowing the claim that it is
100% true.. You claim that "EVERYTHING ON THIS WEBSITE IS TRUE AND
ACCURATE." But Davey you KNOW that it is NOT!
>>PROVE such a lawyer exists Davey!
> I don't care whether or not such a lawyer exists.
Oh THAT is OBVIOUS Moore.You don't give a shit if ANYTHINB on your
wesbite is tgrue or not.
>>>> Also it seems the claims that I am a registered sex offender in
>>>> Wisconsin
>>>> and Florida come up just a little short,
>>PROOF DAVEY? You made it Davey MANY TIMES............. PROOF?
> Has already been posted several times in other groups, in the past. Do
> your own research.
Moore you dork, you can;'t claim in ONE post that you NEVER made the
claim, and then in a post like this claim that you have PROVED in other
newsgroups the claim that I am a registered sex offender. KEEP YOUR LIES
STRAIGHT Moore! You have NEVER proved it!!!!! You just claimed it. Both
Wisconsin and Florida have ON LINE sex offender registries where anyone can
check out your BULLSHIT CLAIMS. Not only am I not listed in them, but nobody
with my last name is either. And MOORE what's WORSE for your lying bullshit
is that there is a NATIONAL registry. Guess what nobody with my last name
listed there either, and of course neither am I! In the past you claimed I
had ,y name "NUKED" from the registries. Do you want to make the same STUPID
claim again Davey? OR will you go back to claiming you never made the claim?
What is it Davey? Which lie now?
KRP
>>>> > Ronny - nice shifting of the burden of proof. You want me to
>>>> prove I do
>>>> > NOT have that HUGE criminal history Moore and YOU claim. Nice TRY.
>>>> I offered:
(TEXT REMOVED BY RON)
>>>> Nope, I don't want to know anything about your criminal history. Just
>>>> show us ONE thing, with proof, that mr moore has on his web site about
>>>> you that is incorrect. One. Just one. You say you have it, He says
>>>> that you say you have it. Show it to us. Give us the opportunity to
>>>> review the proof of the pudding and take mr moore to task for failing
>>>> to live up to his often posted promise.
>>>>
>>>> Or don't, and we can all draw our own conclusions about the veracity of
>>>> mr moores claims. And your claims as well. Willing to take the gamble
>>>> kenny? Willing to put it on the line, your word against mr moore's?
>>>> With this entire news group as the jury?
>>>>
>>>> Of course if you don't want to do that we can draw our own conclusions,
>>>> after all this is your chance to get rid of his web site once and for
>>>> all, and his chance to prove to the news group that everything he has
>>>> said about you is correct and accurate.
>>>>
>>>> Come on kenny, show us the money!
>>
>>> Time is nearly up ken. We have been waiting for quite some time now,
>>> and still you refuse to provide that which you say you have.
>>
>> Well let's see Ron - the LAWYER on his site is FAKE. Also it seems
>> the claims that I am a registered sex offender in Wisconsin and Florida
>> come up just a little short, not to mention the killing of that cop in
>> Utah. You want ME to prove I didn't do those things. Instead YOU prove I
>> did Ronny or demand that Moore prove it.
> I can do that ken. Please provide links to the pages that say this. That
> will make it a bit easier for me to track it.
He just repeated it again this morning and said he HAS proved it in
newsgroups. FIND IT! Just to REPLAY it fop you since you love to DENY
things;
============================
freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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> KENNETH PANGBORN CHILD ABUSER
PROOF Moore????? Or will your ANGRILY DENY you made this allegation this
afternoon like you do so many other of your BULLSHIT claims about me?
>>YOU MADE IT DAVEY. PROVE OTHERWISE!!! And your site DID once claim the
>>lawyer was once an associate of mine.
> No, http://www.aboutken never made this claim. The only claim
> made was that the archived post in question once appeared on Usenet.
Yet you KNOW the claims to be FALSE and you KNOW that no such lawyer
EVER existed, yet you keep it on your website allowing the claim that it is
100% true.. You claim that "EVERYTHING ON THIS WEBSITE IS TRUE AND
ACCURATE." But Davey you KNOW that it is NOT!
>>PROVE such a lawyer exists Davey!
> I don't care whether or not such a lawyer exists.
Oh THAT is OBVIOUS Moore.You don't give a shit if ANYTHING on your
website is true or not.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Also it seems the claims that I am a registered sex offender in
>>>> Wisconsin
>>>> and Florida come up just a little short,
>>PROOF DAVEY? You made it Davey MANY TIMES............. PROOF?
> Has already been posted several times in other groups, in the past. Do
> your own research.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Moore you dork, you can't claim in ONE post that you NEVER made the
claim, and then in a post like this claim that you have PROVED in other
newsgroups the claim that I am a registered sex offender. KEEP YOUR LIES
STRAIGHT Moore! You have NEVER proved it!!!!! You just claimed it. Both
Wisconsin and Florida have ON LINE sex offender registries where anyone can
check out your BULLSHIT CLAIMS. Not only am I not listed in them, but nobody
with my last name is either. And MOORE what's WORSE for your lying bullshit
is that there is a NATIONAL registry. Guess what nobody with my last name
listed there either, and of course neither am I! In the past you claimed I
had my name "NUKED" from the registries. Do you want to make the same STUPID
claim again Davey? OR will you go back to claiming you never made the claim?
What is it Davey? Which lie now?
=======================================================
Now Ronny it is simple you can look for Moore's PROOF posted MANY TIMES in
"other groups" (unnamed of course) OR you can go to the OFFICIAL websites
for the sex offender registries of Florida and Wisconsin and show us the
PROOF that I AM listed. OR you can suffer with Moore's bullshit. How about
you just IGNORE this post and claim it NEVER appeared???? That is always
good for deniability, right Ronny? Except for all the other people who SEE
it!
LIE YOU WAY OUT OF THIS BAG you walked into.
Dan Sullivan
> DAVID DIPSHIT MOORE"freedom" <aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ed3648acfd366694...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > KENNETH PANGBORN CHILD ABUSER
>
> PROOF Moore????? Or will your ANGRILY DENY you made this allegation this
> afterneoon like you do so many other of your BULLSHIT claims about me?
>
> >>YOU MADE IT DAVEY. PROVE OTHERWISE!!! And your site DID once claim the
> >>lawyer was once an associate of mine.
>
> > made was that the archived post in question once appeared on usenet.
>
> Yet you KNOW the claims to be FALSE and you KNOW that no such lawyer
> EVER existed, yet you keep it on your website allowing the claim that it is
> 100% true.. You claim that "EVERYTHING ON THIS WEBSITE IS TRUE AND
> ACCURATE." But Davey you KNOW that it is NOT!
>
> >>PROVE such a lawyer exists Davey!
> > I don't care whether or not such a lawyer exists.
>
> Oh THAT is OBVIOUS Moore.You don't give a shit if ANYTHINB on your
> wesbite is tgrue or not.
>
> >>>> Also it seems the claims that I am a registered sex offender in
> >>>> Wisconsin
> >>>> and Florida come up just a little short,
> >>PROOF DAVEY? You made it Davey MANY TIMES............. PROOF?
> > Has already been posted several times in other groups, in the past. Do
> > your own research.
>
> Moore you dork, you can;'t claim in ONE post that you NEVER made the
> claim, and then in a post like this claim that you have PROVED in other
> newsgroups the claim that I am a registered sex offender.
You do shit like that on a daily basis, kenny boy.
Why break his stones.
He probably learned it from YOU!
KRP
"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1193061937.2...@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> DAVID DIPSHIT MOORE"freedom" <aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com>
>> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ed3648acfd366694...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>
>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> > KENNETH PANGBORN CHILD ABUSER
>> PROOF Moore????? Or will your ANGRILY DENY you made this allegation
>> this
>> afterneoon like you do so many other of your BULLSHIT claims about me?
>> >>YOU MADE IT DAVEY. PROVE OTHERWISE!!! And your site DID once claim the
>> >>lawyer was once an associate of mine.
>> > No,http://www.aboutkennever made this claim. The only claim
>> > made was that the archived post in question once appeared on usenet.
>> Yet you KNOW the claims to be FALSE and you KNOW that no such lawyer
>> EVER existed, yet you keep it on your website allowing the claim that it
>> is
>> 100% true.. You claim that "EVERYTHING ON THIS WEBSITE IS TRUE AND
>> ACCURATE." But Davey you KNOW that it is NOT!
>> >>PROVE such a lawyer exists Davey!
>> > I don't care whether or not such a lawyer exists.
>> Oh THAT is OBVIOUS Moore.You don't give a shit if ANYTHING on your
>> wesbite is true or not.
>> >>>> Also it seems the claims that I am a registered sex offender in
>> >>>> Wisconsin
>> >>>> and Florida come up just a little short,
>> >>PROOF DAVEY? You made it Davey MANY TIMES............. PROOF?
++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > Has already been posted several times in other groups, in the past. Do
>> > your own research.
++++++++
WHERE IS IT DANNY? You said the PROOF is "ALL OVER THE INTERNET" so WHERE IS
IT DANNY?
>> Moore you dork, you can;'t claim in ONE post that you NEVER made the
>> claim, and then in a post like this claim that you have PROVED in other
>> newsgroups the claim that I am a registered sex offender.
> You do shit like that on a daily basis, kenny boy.
So where's the PROOF Danny? You yourself claimed that the PROOF is "ALL
OVER THE INTERNET" so WHERE IS IT DANNY?
Or are you ready, now, to admit you were lying when you said that?
Dan Sullivan
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1193061937.2...@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >> DAVID DIPSHIT MOORE"freedom" <aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com>
> >> wrote in message
>
> >>news:ed3648acfd366694...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
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> >> > KENNETH PANGBORN CHILD ABUSER
> >> PROOF Moore????? Or will your ANGRILY DENY you made this allegation
> >> this
> >> afterneoon like you do so many other of your BULLSHIT claims about me?
> >> >>YOU MADE IT DAVEY. PROVE OTHERWISE!!! And your site DID once claim the
> >> >>lawyer was once an associate of mine.
I said facts are all over the internet.
Prove otherwise.
Ron
KRP wrote:
> "Ron" <apositi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:xlVSi.4789$KX4....@newsfe14.lga...
>
>>>>> > Ronny - nice shifting of the burden of proof. You want me to
>>>>> prove I do
>>>>> > NOT have that HUGE criminal history Moore and YOU claim. Nice TRY.
>
>>>>> I offered:
>
> (TEXT REMOVED BY RON)
Hmmm once again you have it wrong kenny (dam thats getting to be an OLD
story). I didnt remove anything. In fact it looks to me like a direct
quote from the previous post. Please, show us what you think I removed.
I'm sorry kenny, did you misunderstand what I was asking for? Here, let
me quote it for you from the first post in this thread:
"Just show us ONE thing, with proof, that mr moore has on his web site
about you that is incorrect. One. Just one. You say you have it, He
says that you say you have it. Show it to us. Give us the opportunity
to review the proof of the pudding and take mr moore to task for failing
to live up to his often posted promise."
Nothing there about posts to news groups now is there? Was there
anything in mr moore's promise to remove his web page about posts to
news groups?
Its a simple request kenny, even you should be able to understand it and
from what you say you should be able to comply with it without any
problems.
I wouldn't call it a bag kenny, more like a large comfortable room with
a great view. Now I know you have some issues understand the simple
things in life, but this one should be easy. If you still have problems
understanding the request please let me know, I'll get my 8 year old to
explain it to you.
Ron
Kent Wills
<web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
Ultimately you would need to ask him.
If it has been shown the lawyer in question is not now, nor
has ever been, associated with you, the item should be removed.
Ethics, if not the law, would demand such.
--
(บท.ธ(จ*ท.ธ ธ.ท*จ)ธ.ทบ)
ซ.ทฐKENTฐท.ป
(ธ.ทบ(ธ.ทจ* *จท.ธ)บท.ธ)
freedom
The challenge, when I made it, consisted mainly of two parts. One of these
did refer to several claims which Ken had often made on the newsgroups and
elsewhere, such as the "1000 mile restraining order" against me,
dishonorable military discharge, etc. I've also written this challenge
many times into my replies to the unfounded statements he frequently makes
against me on usenet....for example "feel free to post a single example of
xxxxxxx, and I'll immediately remove http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com from
the web and leave usenet forever."
The part which we're talking about in this thread, of course, is him
proving that I've lied about anything at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com.
Ken typically counters this by changing the subject and screaming about
numerous topics which don't appear anywhere on the website. (A good
example of this is "Will Rainey"....there is supposedly a college with a
similar name. Rainey was an actual person who claims that Ken tried to
swindle him, but he requested that I not put his story on the webpage due
to Ken's harassment of he and his family. Ken claims that I made this
person up...however, the Google archives contain instances of Ken
acknowledging the person's existence.)
The only argument of Ken's which comes close, would be the page referring
to "Robert Koslovskiy." Ken makes much of the alleged fact that the person
can't be verified to be a real lawyer....however, I don't feel that
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com makes that claim in the first place. I
have merely reproduced a particular posting as it appeared on usenet, and
in fact there is even a disclaimer attached to this.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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freedom
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Ron <apositi...@netscape.net> wrote:
The challenge, when I made it, consisted mainly of two parts. One of these
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>>>>>> > Ronny - nice shifting of the burden of proof. You want me to
>>>>>> prove I do
>>>>>> > NOT have that HUGE criminal history Moore and YOU claim. Nice TRY.
>>>>>> I offered:
>>
>> (TEXT REMOVED BY RON)
>
> Hmmm once again you have it wrong kenny (dam thats getting to be an OLD
> story). I didnt remove anything. In fact it looks to me like a direct
> quote from the previous post. Please, show us what you think I removed.
Yes Ronny you DID LIAR! See the COLON???? Oh SHIT you forgot to remove
that!!!! DAMN!!! There was a bunch of stuff AFTER the colon Ronny!
YOU snipped it out. NICE TRY!
>> LIE YOUR WAY OUT OF THIS BAG you walked into.
>
> I'm sorry kenny, did you misunderstand what I was asking for? Here, let
> me quote it for you from the first post in this thread:
> "Just show us ONE thing, with proof, that mr moore has on his web site
> about you that is incorrect. One. Just one. You say you have it, He says
> that you say you have it. Show it to us. Give us the opportunity to
> review the proof of the pudding and take mr moore to task for failing to
> live up to his often posted promise."
Nice TAP DANCING RONNY! Although it looks more like the CHA CHA. I did
show it to you. NON-EXISTENT people.
Simple Ronny boy FIND THAT LAWYER! Oh wait, you HAVE tried, haven't you?
And his OFFICE is LOCATED WHERE?
What did you find Ronny? Same SHIT you found on my alleged MASSIVE CRIMINAL
RECORD? When do we get to see it?
Your pal Sullivan says the proof is "ALL OVER THE INTERNET!" Why can't you
guys show us even ONE example of that proof when you have had now almost 3
MONTHS to produce that PROOF that is "ALL OVER THE INTERNET!" Why is that
Ronny?
Non existent former clients named after colleges, NON EXISTENT lawyers
and on and on and on....
KRP
> Ultimately you would need to ask him.
> If it has been shown the lawyer in question is not now, nor
> has ever been, associated with you, the item should be removed.
> Ethics, if not the law, would demand such.
Keith here is Moore's problem. It's VASTLY bigger than that. The lawyer
does NOT EXIST! He isn't a lawyer ANYWHERE, but especially NOT in Baltimore
where it is claimed he is from. But even then Davey has a much BIGGER
problem. Nobody BY THAT NAME has EVER lived in MARYLAND!
Not as far back as records exist. Moore knows that.
KRP
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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> The challenge, when I made it, consisted mainly of two parts. One of
> these
> did refer to several claims which Ken had often made on the newsgroups and
> elsewhere, such as the "1000 mile restraining order" against me,
> dishonorable military discharge, etc.
Which is NOT what I actually said. I said your original discharge was
"less than honorable" and it was UPGRADED 6 months later to HONORABLE, I
never said DISHONORABLE. YOU ARE LYING.
> The part which we're talking about in this thread, of course, is him
> proving that I've lied about anything at http://www.aboutken.
Actually again not what you originally said. You said if anything was
WRONG on your site. After proving several things to be BULLSHIT you changed
the rules. Your WORD, Moore is 100% WORTHLESS!
> Ken typically counters this by changing the subject and screaming about
> numerous topics which don't appear anywhere on the website. (A good
> example of this is "Will Rainey"....there is supposedly a college with a
> similar name. Rainey was an actual person who claims that Ken tried to
> swindle him, but he requested that I not put his story on the webpage due
> to Ken's harassment of he and his family. Ken claims that I made this
> person up...however, the Google archives contain instances of Ken
> acknowledging the person's existence.)
Davey you used to live in Bolingbrook Illinois. Your history was one of
adopting names for yourself of landmarks in your area or neighbors, just as
your JEFF JOHNSON personna. William Rainey Harper college is just a few
miles up the road from your old shanty in Bolingbrook (the one that got
forclosed on) in Palatine, Illinois. A college that was heavily advertized
on TV in the Chicago area. You DID as a MATTER OF FACT make him up along
with several other people Moore.NO acknowledgement from me Davey.
> The only argument of Ken's which comes close, would be the page referring
> to "Robert Koslovskiy." Ken makes much of the alleged fact that the
> person
> can't be verified to be a real lawyer....however, I don't feel that
> http://www.aboutken makes that claim in the first place. I
> have merely reproduced a particular posting as it appeared on usenet, and
> in fact there is even a disclaimer attached to this.
Who posted it Davey? Your problem doesn't start and end with the FACT
that there is NO SUCH LAWYER Moore, BUT it gets compounded with the FACT
that NO SUCH PERSON has ever lived in MARYLAND as far as records can
document. NO SUCH PERSON by that NAME EVER in Maryland.
Not even with that LAST NAME..................... HOW COME DAVEY? Yet you
keep it up and you DO represent it as the TRUTH!
KRP
FIRST **YOU** prove that even ONE FACT that proves I have a criminal
record exists on ANY credible place on the internet! Your PSYCHOTIC mind is
NOT credible. Any OFFICIAL source. GO FOR IT DANNY!!!
ONE!
Dan Sullivan
> DAVID PATHOLOGICAL LIAR MOORE"freedom" <aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > The challenge, when I made it, consisted mainly of two parts. One of
> > these
> > did refer to several claims which Ken had often made on the newsgroups and
> > elsewhere, such as the "1000 mile restraining order" against me,
> > dishonorable military discharge, etc.
>
> Which is NOT what I actually said.
LOOK WHO'S COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SAID!!!!!!!!!!
HILARIOUS!!!!!!!
freedom
KENNETH PANGBORN CHILD ABUSER
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, "KRP" <web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
>DAVID PATHOLOGICAL LIAR MOORE
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:ef85e284f4b5b2b8...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>> The challenge, when I made it, consisted mainly of two parts. One of
>> these
>> did refer to several claims which Ken had often made on the newsgroups and
>> elsewhere, such as the "1000 mile restraining order" against me,
>> dishonorable military discharge, etc.
>
> Which is NOT what I actually said. I said your original discharge was
>"less than honorable" and it was UPGRADED 6 months later to HONORABLE, I
Which is just as much of a lie. I was honorably discharged on the day of
discharge, no "UPGRADE" etc. You were challenged to provide any proof to
back up your claims, and failed to do so.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/defame.html also contains several examples
of your lies on this topic. Your story on this changed on a daily basis,
and the lies you told directly contradict one another.
>never said DISHONORABLE. YOU ARE LYING.
>
>> The part which we're talking about in this thread, of course, is him
>> proving that I've lied about anything at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com.
Now why did you snip the http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com link?
>
> Actually again not what you originally said. You said if anything was
>WRONG on your site. After proving several things to be BULLSHIT you changed
>the rules. Your WORD, Moore is 100% WORTHLESS!
You haven't proved a single thing to be wrong on
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com.
>
>> Ken typically counters this by changing the subject and screaming about
>> numerous topics which don't appear anywhere on the website. (A good
>> example of this is "Will Rainey"....there is supposedly a college with a
>> similar name. Rainey was an actual person who claims that Ken tried to
>> swindle him, but he requested that I not put his story on the webpage due
>> to Ken's harassment of he and his family. Ken claims that I made this
>> person up...however, the Google archives contain instances of Ken
>> acknowledging the person's existence.)
>
> Davey you used to live in Bolingbrook Illinois. Your history was one of
>adopting names for yourself of landmarks in your area or neighbors, just as
>your JEFF JOHNSON personna.
Care to post proof of this?
>William Rainey Harper college is just a few
>miles up the road from your old shanty in Bolingbrook (the one that got
>forclosed on)
I've never owned a "shanty," nor have I ever had anything foreclosed or
repossessed. Unlike you, I know how to manage my finances.
> in Palatine, Illinois. A college that was heavily advertized
>on TV in the Chicago area. You DID as a MATTER OF FACT make him up along
>with several other people Moore.NO acknowledgement from me Davey.
>
>> The only argument of Ken's which comes close, would be the page referring
>> to "Robert Koslovskiy." Ken makes much of the alleged fact that the
>> person
>> can't be verified to be a real lawyer....however, I don't feel that
>> http://www.aboutken makes that claim in the first place. I
>> have merely reproduced a particular posting as it appeared on usenet, and
>> in fact there is even a disclaimer attached to this.
>
> Who posted it Davey?
Don't know and don't care; it's beyond the scope of the page in question at
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com, which states merely that the post in
question appeared on usenet.
> Your problem doesn't start and end with the FACT
>that there is NO SUCH LAWYER Moore,
You're right, because it's not my problem at all. Rather, it's your
problem, everytime someone considers hiring you and Googles your name to
find http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com. Get a lot of prospective clients who
seem interested, and then suddenly stop returning phone calls or e-mails?
Those would be the ones whom I cost you :)
You're welcome.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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> KENNETH PANGBORN CHILD ABUSER
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, "KRP" <web2...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> The challenge, when I made it, consisted mainly of two parts. One of
>>> these
>>> did refer to several claims which Ken had often made on the newsgroups
>>> and
>>> elsewhere, such as the "1000 mile restraining order" against me,
>>> dishonorable military discharge, etc.
>>
>> Which is NOT what I actually said. I said your original discharge was
>>"less than honorable" and it was UPGRADED 6 months later to HONORABLE, I
> Which is just as much of a lie. I was honorably discharged on the day of
> discharge, no "UPGRADE" etc. You were challenged to provide any proof to
> back up your claims, and failed to do so.
No Davey - remember I have a copy of your 214. UPGRADE.
>>never said DISHONORABLE. YOU ARE LYING.
>> Actually again not what you originally said. You said if anything was
>>WRONG on your site. After proving several things to be BULLSHIT you
>>changed
>>the rules. Your WORD, Moore is 100% WORTHLESS!
> You haven't proved a single thing to be wrong on http://www.aboutken
I have PROVEN lots of things WRONG Davey. You keep up a post and you
represent it as TRUE from a "lawyer" in Baltimore, Maryland, who not only is
NOT a lawyer in Baltimore - he isn't one ANYWHERE ELSE either! Not just that
MOORE - but NOBODY by that name has ever lived anywhere in MARYLAND! SO -
keeping it up, regardless of your RATIONALIZATIONS as a matter of FACT -
IS keeping something up that is WRONG! WIll Rainey is wrong. You said I only
needed ONE.................. So EVERYONE can see what your "WORD" is worth
again Davey.
>> Davey you used to live in Bolingbrook Illinois. Your history was one
>> of
>>adopting names for yourself of landmarks in your area or neighbors, just
>>as
>>your JEFF JOHNSON personna.
> Care to post proof of this?
The old JEFF JOHNSON posts still exist Davey.
>>William Rainey Harper college is just a few
>>miles up the road from your old shanty in Bolingbrook (the one that got
>>forclosed on)
> I've never owned a "shanty," nor have I ever had anything foreclosed or
> repossessed. Unlike you, I know how to manage my finances.
Moore you also declared bankruptcy. It's part of why you and Linda got
divorced. You and OASIS Computing Solutions. TANKO! Now let's STROLL DOWN
MEMORY LANE for a moment shall we Davey? Now that you bring it up.
DAVEY DIPSHIT MOORE
228 N. Pinecrest Rd.
Bolingbrook, IL 60440-2406
Date Filed11/12/2002
CASE NUMBER: 0244228
Illinois Northern - Chicago
ATTORNEY FOR DAVID MOORE: Timothy J. Crowley, 1025 Ogden Avenue, STE 207,
Lisle, IL. 60532
TRUSTEE: Michael G. Berland
JUDGE ASSIGNED: Bruce W. Black
Location: Will County Corthouse. 14 W. Jefferson Street, Courtroom 100,
Joliet, IL.
And you were SAYING little PANSY?
>> in Palatine, Illinois. A college that was heavily advertized
>>on TV in the Chicago area. You DID as a MATTER OF FACT make him up along
>>with several other people Moore.NO acknowledgement from me Davey.
>>> The only argument of Ken's which comes close, would be the page
>>> referring
>>> to "Robert Koslovskiy." Ken makes much of the alleged fact that the
>>> person
>>> can't be verified to be a real lawyer....however, I don't feel that
>>> http://www.aboutken makes that claim in the first place. I
>>> have merely reproduced a particular posting as it appeared on usenet,
>>> and
>>> in fact there is even a disclaimer attached to this.
(Merely reproduced with NO regard for accuracy Davey) But we all KNOW you
wtote it. Not only that he isn't a "REAL LAWYER" he isn't even a "REAL
PERSON" Davey.
> Don't know and don't care; it's beyond the scope of the page in question
> at
> http://www.aboutken which states merely that the post in question appeared
> on usenet.
It is FAKE Moore and you KNOW it is FAKE. And YOU probably write it
anyway.
>> Your problem doesn't start and end with the FACT that there is NO SUCH
>> LAWYER Moore,
> You're right, because it's not my problem at all. Rather, it's your
> problem, everytime someone considers hiring you and Googles your name to
> find http://www.aboutken Get a lot of prospective clients who
> seem interested, and then suddenly stop returning phone calls or e-mails?
> Those would be the ones whom I cost you :)
Well some people believe your lies and that is UNFORTUNATE for them
Davey. Spoken like a TRUE SOCIOPATH!
But that last paragraph pretty well defines the issues between us.
Ron
KRP wrote:
> "Ron" <apositi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:ps3Ti.22187$UN.1...@newsfe24.lga...
>
>>>>>>> > Ronny - nice shifting of the burden of proof. You want me to
>>>>>>> prove I do
>>>>>>> > NOT have that HUGE criminal history Moore and YOU claim. Nice TRY.
>
>>>>>>> I offered:
>>> (TEXT REMOVED BY RON)
>> Hmmm once again you have it wrong kenny (dam thats getting to be an OLD
>> story). I didnt remove anything. In fact it looks to me like a direct
>> quote from the previous post. Please, show us what you think I removed.
>
> Yes Ronny you DID LIAR! See the COLON???? Oh SHIT you forgot to remove
> that!!!! DAMN!!! There was a bunch of stuff AFTER the colon Ronny!
> YOU snipped it out. NICE TRY!
Kenny kenny kenny, you really need to learn to use a news reader. I
didnt remove it, mr moore did. True, there was a "bunch of stuff after
the colon", but I was not the one that removed it. And my reply WAS an
exact quote from the previous post kenny.
You provided a link to the information? Where? What post? Point it
out to me ken, quote the link for me.
Now, if you had actually tried to read what I posted (I dont think I
took into account your reading problems) you would have noted that I am
asking for things on mr moores web site that are specifically about YOU,
lies or inaccurate about YOU Kenneth Pangborn, not other people.
Now, if you are unable to meet that criteria please let me know so that
we can end this thread and I can get onto the next one.
I'm trying to do you a service here ken, get rid of a major main in your
ass, if indeed what mr moore writes about you on his web site is
inaccurate. But all I'm getting is static from you, misdirection and it
looks like an intentional effort to avoid having to put forth any effort
to help yourself with my assistance.
> Simple Ronny boy FIND THAT LAWYER! Oh wait, you HAVE tried, haven't you?
> And his OFFICE is LOCATED WHERE?
Are you the lawyer in question kenny? If not then I am not interested.
I want something specifically about YOU that is inaccurate on mr
moore's web site. That WAS the original request, or did you miss that?
> What did you find Ronny? Same SHIT you found on my alleged MASSIVE CRIMINAL
> RECORD? When do we get to see it?
Thats another thread kenny. I wont bother to address that here. We
have other fish to fry here, try and stay on topic please.
> Your pal Sullivan says the proof is "ALL OVER THE INTERNET!" Why can't you
> guys show us even ONE example of that proof when you have had now almost 3
> MONTHS to produce that PROOF that is "ALL OVER THE INTERNET!" Why is that
> Ronny?
Thats another thread kenny. I wont bother to address that here. We
have other fish to fry here, try and stay on topic please.
> Non existent former clients named after colleges, NON EXISTENT lawyers
> and on and on and on....
I want something specifically about YOU that is inaccurate on mr moore's
web site. That WAS the original request, or did you miss that? I am
truly trying to assist here. Try and keep up ken, its for your benefit.
Ron