There is so much I want to ask without being able to. Both my wife, myself and both of our families are in a horrible law mess to try and get our three year old son back following the death of his five month old brother. I am unable to really go into detail in a public forum because there are still open investigations. what I can say are the following: 1)the maternal grandparents home is unable to be accessed. 2) A judge ruled for our son to be placed with the paternal grandparents (my parents). We were given UNlimited and UNsupervised visitation. At all times the child WAS supervised by his paternal grandparents as was the visitation, though it needn't be. 3) NO set of visitation guidelines was ever given to the paternal granparents. No paperwork at all was. not even a copy of the safety checklist from the DEFACS walkthrough. 4) On Tuesday, January 10th, A DEFACS case worker appeared at the paernal grandparents home with two police officers. She removed the child. Her reasons were that my wife and I were in violation by having stayed the night with the child at my parents home, and that because it was after dark, we were not to be there. We asked to see her court order, she would not produce one. The police would not enforce any of the grandparents rights, Defacs was able to have their way. 5)My three year old son has an auditory and learning disorder for which the mother and I had set appointments up for. These disabilities have been written off by the department. 6)The lawyers fees are becoming out of hand. 7) Every one at DEFACS who we have spoke to has referred us on to one "supervisor" or another, though in fact all these supervisors are at the same level. 8) DEFACS states that the grandparents were in "violation" of their guidelines which were never given to the grandparents, nor discussed with. They are saying that these rules had been gone over in the initial "TDM" meeting, even though no one in either family present remember this, and even though this meeting took place before the judge had made his ruling. 9) The judge states that his role in the courtroom is advisory, we know this is true. He was municipal... 10) The reason that the doctor had called DEFACS in the first place has turned out to be a misdiagnosis on his part.
As I said before, the lawyers fees are stacking up. I understand that this is their business, but the billing is getting atrocious. All families involved are becoming bankrupted between the family lawyer and the criminal lawyer we have waiting to step in should charges be filed. We have been in contact with the governors office to members on the board of Human Resources. We are trying to be as pro-active as possible. Can anyone provide us any more possible leads to help get our son at least placed back with the paternal grandparents? Is an emergency hearing more likely to be beneficial for us at this point? Has anyone had a like experience like this? Please help us if you can.
I would consider looking into the option of filing a Motion for Administrative Review. This usually sends CPS into a panic, where they then file false criminal charges against a parent.
Therefore, notify your State and local police, and FBI, that you will be doing this first. Notify also, the Chief State's Attorney's office and as many of the local State's Attorney's offices that you can find, and let them all know your intent.
There are some examples of the CT DCF doing this to parents, and several other incidents we know about, but are not listed on the website.
And that very evening DCF's AAG Jessica Gauvin filed a totally false police report to the Berlin Police on her way home from work. http://actionlyme.org More of the story there, and of the "frauds on the court."
Here is another case where a foster parent filed a Motion for an Administrative Review and then the DCF, knowing they were liable, decided to criminally charge the foster parent with child abuse: http://actionlyme.org/CARROLL_VS_RAGAGLIA.htm
Whenever these assholes are caught breaking the law, they file a false police report against their victims. Therefore contact the police first, and preferably your state and federally elected representatives even before the police.
Describe the case, mention your intent, mention these other cases.
Then, when all are aware that you are motioning for an Administrative Review, fax the Motion for the Review.
Don't make any moves that could be considered in violation of any law, Don't contact CPS, Don't make any unwitnessed or unrecorded phone calls, Be aware that the CPS has bugged your phones and knows about all conversations you are having with your lawyer, and therefore these conversations have to take place in person.
They are watching every move you make, and will try to disrupt any defensive action you are taking.
Therefore, when you notify State and Federal law enforcement of your intent, use someone else's phone or a pay phone.
Notify everyone you know, personally, about your intentions: The doctors who care for your child, the schools, the daycare, your employers,... But do not use your own phone.
Get to work on this right away. I believe you are entitled to 10 days to contest the order or warrant for the child's removal.
The worst thing you can do is sit back and do nothing, because they are spending ALL of their time conspiring against you, and throwing all of their effort into screwing you over, frightening your friends and frightening every one you know.
Donte wrote: > There is so much I want to ask without being able to. Both my wife, > myself and both of our families are in a horrible law mess to try and > get our three year old son back following the death of his five month > old brother. I am unable to really go into detail in a public forum > because there are still open investigations. what I can say are the > following: > 1)the maternal grandparents home is unable to be accessed. > 2) A judge ruled for our son to be placed with the paternal > grandparents (my parents). We were given UNlimited and UNsupervised > visitation. At all times the child WAS supervised by his paternal > grandparents as was the visitation, though it needn't be. > 3) NO set of visitation guidelines was ever given to the paternal > granparents. No paperwork at all was. not even a copy of the safety > checklist from the DEFACS walkthrough. > 4) On Tuesday, January 10th, A DEFACS case worker appeared at the > paernal grandparents home with two police officers. She removed the > child. Her reasons were that my wife and I were in violation by having > stayed the night with the child at my parents home, and that because it > was after dark, we were not to be there. We asked to see her court > order, she would not produce one. The police would not enforce any of > the grandparents rights, Defacs was able to have their way. > 5)My three year old son has an auditory and learning disorder for which > the mother and I had set appointments up for. These disabilities have > been written off by the department. > 6)The lawyers fees are becoming out of hand. > 7) Every one at DEFACS who we have spoke to has referred us on to one > "supervisor" or another, though in fact all these supervisors are at > the same level. > 8) DEFACS states that the grandparents were in "violation" of their > guidelines which were never given to the grandparents, nor discussed > with. They are saying that these rules had been gone over in the > initial "TDM" meeting, even though no one in either family present > remember this, and even though this meeting took place before the judge > had made his ruling. > 9) The judge states that his role in the courtroom is advisory, we know > this is true. He was municipal... > 10) The reason that the doctor had called DEFACS in the first place has > turned out to be a misdiagnosis on his part.
> As I said before, the lawyers fees are stacking up. I understand that > this is their business, but the billing is getting atrocious. All > families involved are becoming bankrupted between the family lawyer and > the criminal lawyer we have waiting to step in should charges be filed. > We have been in contact with the governors office to members on the > board of Human Resources. We are trying to be as pro-active as > possible. > Can anyone provide us any more possible leads to help get our son at > least placed back with the paternal grandparents? > Is an emergency hearing more likely to be beneficial for us at this > point? > Has anyone had a like experience like this? > Please help us if you can.
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I would consider looking into the option of filing a Motion for Administrative Review. This usually sends CPS into a panic, where they then file false criminal charges against a parent.
Therefore, notify your State and local police, and FBI, that you will be doing this first. Notify also, the Chief State's Attorney's office and as many of the local State's Attorney's offices that you can find, and let them all know your intent.
There are some examples of the CT DCF doing this to parents, and several other incidents we know about, but are not listed on the website.
And that very evening DCF's AAG Jessica Gauvin filed a totally false police report to the Berlin Police on her way home from work. http://actionlyme.org More of the story there, and of the "frauds on the court."
Here is another case where a foster parent filed a Motion for an Administrative Review and then the DCF, knowing they were liable, decided to criminally charge the foster parent with child abuse: http://actionlyme.org/CARROLL_VS_RAGAGLIA.htm
Whenever these assholes are caught breaking the law, they file a false police report against their victims. Therefore contact the police first, and preferably your state and federally elected representatives even before the police.
Describe the case, mention your intent, mention these other cases.
Then, when all are aware that you are motioning for an Administrative Review, fax the Motion for the Review.
Don't make any moves that could be considered in violation of any law, Don't contact CPS, Don't make any unwitnessed or unrecorded phone calls, Be aware that the CPS has bugged your phones and knows about all conversations you are having with your lawyer, and therefore these conversations have to take place in person.
They are watching every move you make, and will try to disrupt any defensive action you are taking.
Therefore, when you notify State and Federal law enforcement of your intent, use someone else's phone or a pay phone.
Notify everyone you know, personally, about your intentions: The doctors who care for your child, the schools, the daycare, your employers,... But do not use your own phone.
Get to work on this right away. I believe you are entitled to 10 days to contest the order or warrant for the child's removal.
The worst thing you can do is sit back and do nothing, because they are spending ALL of their time conspiring against you, and throwing all of their effort into screwing you over, frightening your friends and frightening every one you know.
Donte wrote: > There is so much I want to ask without being able to. Both my wife, > myself and both of our families are in a horrible law mess to try and > get our three year old son back following the death of his five month > old brother. I am unable to really go into detail in a public forum > because there are still open investigations. what I can say are the > following: > 1)the maternal grandparents home is unable to be accessed. > 2) A judge ruled for our son to be placed with the paternal > grandparents (my parents). We were given UNlimited and UNsupervised > visitation. At all times the child WAS supervised by his paternal > grandparents as was the visitation, though it needn't be. > 3) NO set of visitation guidelines was ever given to the paternal > granparents. No paperwork at all was. not even a copy of the safety > checklist from the DEFACS walkthrough. > 4) On Tuesday, January 10th, A DEFACS case worker appeared at the > paernal grandparents home with two police officers. She removed the > child. Her reasons were that my wife and I were in violation by having > stayed the night with the child at my parents home, and that because it > was after dark, we were not to be there. We asked to see her court > order, she would not produce one. The police would not enforce any of > the grandparents rights, Defacs was able to have their way. > 5)My three year old son has an auditory and learning disorder for which > the mother and I had set appointments up for. These disabilities have > been written off by the department. > 6)The lawyers fees are becoming out of hand. > 7) Every one at DEFACS who we have spoke to has referred us on to one > "supervisor" or another, though in fact all these supervisors are at > the same level. > 8) DEFACS states that the grandparents were in "violation" of their > guidelines which were never given to the grandparents, nor discussed > with. They are saying that these rules had been gone over in the > initial "TDM" meeting, even though no one in either family present > remember this, and even though this meeting took place before the judge > had made his ruling. > 9) The judge states that his role in the courtroom is advisory, we know > this is true. He was municipal... > 10) The reason that the doctor had called DEFACS in the first place has > turned out to be a misdiagnosis on his part. > As I said before, the lawyers fees are stacking up. I understand that > this is their business, but the billing is getting atrocious. All > families involved are becoming bankrupted between the family lawyer and > the criminal lawyer we have waiting to step in should charges be filed. > We have been in contact with the governors office to members on the > board of Human Resources. We are trying to be as pro-active as > possible. > Can anyone provide us any more possible leads to help get our son at > least placed back with the paternal grandparents? > Is an emergency hearing more likely to be beneficial for us at this > point? > Has anyone had a like experience like this? > Please help us if you can.
Donte wrote: > There is so much I want to ask without being able to. Both my wife, > myself and both of our families are in a horrible law mess to try and > get our three year old son back following the death of his five month > old brother. I am unable to really go into detail in a public forum > because there are still open investigations. what I can say are the > following: > 1)the maternal grandparents home is unable to be accessed. > 2) A judge ruled for our son to be placed with the paternal > grandparents (my parents). We were given UNlimited and UNsupervised > visitation. At all times the child WAS supervised by his paternal > grandparents as was the visitation, though it needn't be. > 3) NO set of visitation guidelines was ever given to the paternal > granparents. No paperwork at all was. not even a copy of the safety > checklist from the DEFACS walkthrough. > 4) On Tuesday, January 10th, A DEFACS case worker appeared at the > paernal grandparents home with two police officers. She removed the > child. Her reasons were that my wife and I were in violation by having > stayed the night with the child at my parents home, and that because it > was after dark, we were not to be there. We asked to see her court > order, she would not produce one. The police would not enforce any of > the grandparents rights, Defacs was able to have their way. > 5)My three year old son has an auditory and learning disorder for which > the mother and I had set appointments up for. These disabilities have > been written off by the department. > 6)The lawyers fees are becoming out of hand. > 7) Every one at DEFACS who we have spoke to has referred us on to one > "supervisor" or another, though in fact all these supervisors are at > the same level. > 8) DEFACS states that the grandparents were in "violation" of their > guidelines which were never given to the grandparents, nor discussed > with. They are saying that these rules had been gone over in the > initial "TDM" meeting, even though no one in either family present > remember this, and even though this meeting took place before the judge > had made his ruling. > 9) The judge states that his role in the courtroom is advisory, we know > this is true. He was municipal... > 10) The reason that the doctor had called DEFACS in the first place has > turned out to be a misdiagnosis on his part.
> As I said before, the lawyers fees are stacking up. I understand that > this is their business, but the billing is getting atrocious. All > families involved are becoming bankrupted between the family lawyer and > the criminal lawyer we have waiting to step in should charges be filed. > We have been in contact with the governors office to members on the > board of Human Resources. We are trying to be as pro-active as > possible. > Can anyone provide us any more possible leads to help get our son at > least placed back with the paternal grandparents? > Is an emergency hearing more likely to be beneficial for us at this > point? > Has anyone had a like experience like this? > Please help us if you can.
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