Ken Pangborn booted from ASTC
freedom
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
--Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
--Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
--Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
--Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim
that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
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krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:e84df001b227d967...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
> He's no longer on their member list.....
Davey and you WHINE that you are not a STALKER! Oh how you WHINE like a
little baby who has lost his binkie. How would you KNOW this if you are the
POOR INNOCENT VICTIM and not the STALKER you a ARE? You are DO keep tabs
on me. Do you ever sleep? I am 900% sure you have NO idea as to why *I* may
have chosen to drop my affiliation with that group in favor of another that
*YOU* David STALKER Moore know nothing about. It is going to keep you up for
months as you TRY to see what other group I have affiliated with. Have your
mommy stock up on loads of coffeee, Davey, you are going to have plenty of
sleepless nights while you are on this assignment.
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>He's no longer on their member list.....
>
>
Maybe he'll claim he asked to be removed from the public list
like he's done in the past.
I'm sure someone out there would buy such a lie.
>
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
>criminals
"Quotes below have been highly altered."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn accidentally admitting in misc.legal
that he alters posts when he replies.
krp
"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:vjhtd556epiknpcft...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:40:20 +0200, freedom
> <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>
>>He's no longer on their member list.....
>>
>>
>
> Maybe he'll claim he asked to be removed from the public list
> like he's done in the past.
> I'm sure someone out there would buy such a lie.
Nope. I just quit the group to join a different group. Now all you STALKERS
need to figure out is; which one I joined.
Dan Sullivan
<aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>
> He's no longer on their member list.....
HILARIOUS!!!
pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the ASTC has
been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
sexist postings on usenet.
Time to start with the others.
krp
"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:9c15e487-66a4-43ad...@d4g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 21, 12:40 am, freedom
<aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>
> He's no longer on their member list.....
DJS#3> pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the ASTC has
DJS#3> been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
DJS#3> sexist postings on usenet.
Sullivan you pervert - WHY do you NEED to post such libel? Moore is bad
enough, but YOU have to embellish his BULLSHIT! You are showing you have
tremendous MENTAL PROBLEMS, Sullivan!
Or are YOU now "the OTHER Dan Sullivan" too?
Dan Sullivan
"krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4adf366d$0$4974$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
Your lack of denial is duly noted, pangborn.
When will you have your websites corrected on this issue?
krp
>>>
>>> He's no longer on their member list.....
>>
>> DJS#3> pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the ASTC
>> has
>> DJS#3> been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
>> DJS#3> sexist postings on usenet.
>>
>> Sullivan you pervert - WHY do you NEED to post such libel? Moore is
>> bad enough, but YOU have to embellish his BULLSHIT! You are showing you
>> have tremendous MENTAL PROBLEMS, Sullivan!
> Your lack of denial is duly noted, pangborn.
Denial of what? I called your LIBEL what it IS a LIE. YOU are a
pathetic fukking LIAR, Sullivan. I was NOT "booted" from ASTC . That is your
psychotic delusion.
Dan Sullivan
> DAN SULLIVAN THE DELIBERATE LIAR"Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
Not "booted?"
Asked to leave?
Dropped as a member?
Parted ways?
What reason could you possibly have for leaving the ASTC, pangborn?
freedom
>On Oct 21, 12:40=A0am, freedom
This is the second major organization which has dismissed Ken Pangborn from=
its ranks in recent years (the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's Association
kicked him out after his academic fraud with his mail-order degree was
exposed.) Perhaps someone complained to ASTC about his fraud and abuse?
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's=
Association or AN Y connection to them."
--Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie=
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde=
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves=
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
--Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
--Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
--Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim
that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
harassment,child abuse,domestic violence,rape allegations,false allegations=
Dan Sullivan
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Dan Sullivan <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>On Oct 21, 12:40=A0am, freedom
>><aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> He's no longer on their member list.....
>>
>>HILARIOUS!!!
>>
>>pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the ASTC has
>>been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
>>sexist postings on usenet.
>>
>>Time to start with the others.
>
> This is the second major organization which has dismissed Ken Pangborn
> from=
>
> its ranks in recent years (the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's Association
> kicked him out after his academic fraud with his mail-order degree was
> exposed.) Perhaps someone complained to ASTC about his fraud and abuse?
I'm sure pangborn's postings on usenet paid a large part in ASTC's decision
to dump his ass.
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:2816464504f08ef0...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>> He's no longer on their member list.....
>>HILARIOUS!!!
>>pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the ASTC has
>>been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
>>sexist postings on usenet.
>
>>Time to start with the others.
> This is the second major organization which has dismissed Ken Pangborn
> from
> its ranks in recent years (the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's Association
> kicked him out
Sorry Davey that's YOUR fantasy. I was never a member of the Texas group
for OBVIOUS reasons. I am NOT a lawyer. This is now the THIRD time YOU have
claimed that ASTC kicked me out. It is NOT true and you KNOW it is NOT true.
But you LIE anyway. It's WHO you are!
Dan Sullivan
What benefit did the ASTC cease to offer you, pangborn, that would cause you
to resign from their organization?
krp
DDM >>> He's no longer on their member list.....
> >> DJS#3> pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the
> >> ASTC has
> >> DJS#3> been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
> >> DJS#3> sexist postings on usenet.
>
> >> Sullivan you pervert - WHY do you NEED to post such libel? Moore is
> >> bad enough, but YOU have to embellish his BULLSHIT! You are showing you
> >> have tremendous MENTAL PROBLEMS, Sullivan!
> > Your lack of denial is duly noted, pangborn.
>
> Denial of what? I called your LIBEL what it IS a LIE. YOU are a
> pathetic fukking LIAR, Sullivan. I was NOT "booted" from ASTC . That is
> your
> psychotic delusion.
DJS#3> Not "booted?"
That's correct, NOT booted.
DJS#3> Asked to leave?
Also NOT true. But you'll LIE anyway. AS USUAL!
DJS#3> Dropped as a member?
No, Danny, I elected not to renew. BUT you are a pathological liar and
will claim otherwise because you can't help yourself.
DSS#3> What reason could you possibly have for leaving the ASTC, pangborn?
I have my reasons I choose NOT to make public. They have nothing to do
with ME. It is obvious you have been LYING again Danny when you claimed I
had been "booted>" One more of your BALD FACED LIBELOUS LIES!
krp
I didn't RESIGN Danny. YOU STUPID ASS!
krp
They didn't and you remain a BALD FACED LIAR Sullivan.
Dan Sullivan
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1b44a9ab-036b-47d9...@o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>
> DDM >>> He's no longer on their member list.....
>
> > >> DJS#3> pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the
> > >> ASTC has
> > >> DJS#3> been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
> > >> DJS#3> sexist postings on usenet.
>
> > >> Sullivan you pervert - WHY do you NEED to post such libel? Moore is
> > >> bad enough, but YOU have to embellish his BULLSHIT! You are showing you
> > >> have tremendous MENTAL PROBLEMS, Sullivan!
> > > Your lack of denial is duly noted, pangborn.
>
> > Denial of what? I called your LIBEL what it IS a LIE. YOU are a
> > pathetic fukking LIAR, Sullivan. I was NOT "booted" from ASTC . That is
> > your
> > psychotic delusion.
>
> DJS#3> Not "booted?"
>
> That's correct, NOT booted.
>
> DJS#3> Asked to leave?
>
> Also NOT true. But you'll LIE anyway. AS USUAL!
>
> DJS#3> Dropped as a member?
>
> No, Danny, I elected not to renew.
When will your websites reflect your decision not to renew your
membership with the ASTC?
> DSS#3> What reason could you possibly have for leaving the ASTC, pangborn?
>
> I have my reasons I choose NOT to make public. They have nothing to do
> with ME.
What did the ASTC do or not do to cause you to not renew your
membership?
If the reason had nothing to do with your decision, why would you
choose to protect the ASTC?
womanGoddess
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:40:20 +0200, freedom
>
> >He's no longer on their member list.....
>
> Maybe he'll claim he asked to be removed from the public list
> like he's done in the past.
> I'm sure someone out there would buy such a lie.
I like his crap about calling Moore a stalker while his bitch boi
Greg Hanson who does stalk and repeatedly proves it in his obsessive
C&Ps about Wills and Sullivan is somehow exempt from Kennie calling
him a stalker. IOW usual Kennie double standard.
Kennie, if he was as intelligent as he pretends to be, would know
that he's pissed off people on usenet for so long eventually someone
would have snuck into whatever list group Kennie has infected with his
presence. Apparently the group moderator banned him from the list. No
surprise there. Users who make trouble in list groups tend to find
themselves kicked out.
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
womanGoddess
> "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4adf366d$0$4974$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
>
>
> > DANNY SULLIVAN THE LIAR
> >news:9c15e487-66a4-43ad...@d4g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> > On Oct 21, 12:40 am, freedom
> > <aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>
> >> He's no longer on their member list.....
>
> > DJS#3> pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the ASTC
> > has
> > DJS#3> been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
> > DJS#3> sexist postings on usenet.
>
> > Sullivan you pervert - WHY do you NEED to post such libel? Moore is bad
> > enough, but YOU have to embellish his BULLSHIT! You are showing you have
> > tremendous MENTAL PROBLEMS, Sullivan!
>
> Your lack of denial is duly noted, pangborn.
>
> When will you have your websites corrected on this issue?
Remember when he claimed he put his web sites down because supposedly
someone hacked into his web sites and, according to him, put a virus
on his system?
Amazing he hasn't blamed Moore for that one. He's really eager to
blame Moore for everything.
freedom
>DAVID MOORE THE STALKER from CALUMET CITY, ILLINOIS
Nobody from Calumet City authored the post in question.
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:2816464504f08ef0...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
>>>> He's no longer on their member list.....
>
>>>HILARIOUS!!!
>
>>>pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the ASTC has
>>>been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
>>>sexist postings on usenet.
>>
>>>Time to start with the others.
>
>> This is the second major organization which has dismissed Ken Pangborn
>> from
>> its ranks in recent years (the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's Association
>> kicked him out
>
> Sorry Davey that's YOUR fantasy. I was never a member of the Texas group
>for OBVIOUS reasons. I am NOT a lawyer.
You were a member as an "expert." Your fat ass was already nailed on this
lie, months ago. But what the hell, I'll be glad to nail you on it
again.... keeps it at the top of the search engines:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde
x.shtml
The title of the page is "List of Experts" followed by "Members only."
About a page down, under "Child Abuse," your name is listed right above
that of Dean Tong.
>This is now the THIRD time YOU have
>claimed that ASTC kicked me out. It is NOT true and you KNOW it is NOT true.
>But you LIE anyway. It's WHO you are!
Projection noted.
You've just been outted on TWO lies...first, you claimed that someone from
Illinois authored my post....then, your feeble denial of TCDLA membership.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
--Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
--Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
--Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
--Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim
that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
harassment,child abuse,domestic violence,rape allegations,false allegations
womanGoddess
> "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4adf6f91$0$4987$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
>
>
> > DAVID MOORE THE STALKER from CALUMET CITY, ILLINOIS
> >news:2816464504f08ef0...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
> >>>> He's no longer on their member list.....
>
> >>>HILARIOUS!!!
>
> >>>pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the ASTC has
> >>>been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
> >>>sexist postings on usenet.
>
> >>>Time to start with the others.
>
> >> This is the second major organization which has dismissed Ken Pangborn
> >> from
> >> its ranks in recent years (the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
> >> Association
> >> kicked him out
>
> > Sorry Davey that's YOUR fantasy. I was never a member of the Texas
> > group for OBVIOUS reasons. I am NOT a lawyer. This is now the THIRD time
> > YOU have claimed that ASTC kicked me out. It is NOT true and you KNOW it
> > is NOT true. But you LIE anyway. It's WHO you are!
>
> What benefit did the ASTC cease to offer you, pangborn, that would cause you
> to resign from their organization?
Simple. They didn;t kiss his fat ass and bow to him.
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>>>>> He's no longer on their member list.....
>>
>>>>HILARIOUS!!!
>>
>>>>pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the ASTC has
>>>>been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
>>>>sexist postings on usenet.
>>>
>>>>Time to start with the others.
>>> This is the second major organization which has dismissed Ken Pangborn
>>> from
>>> its ranks in recent years (the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
>>> Association
>>> kicked him out
>> Sorry Davey that's YOUR fantasy. I was never a member of the Texas
>> group
>>for OBVIOUS reasons. I am NOT a lawyer.
> You were a member as an "expert."
Not by MY hand, Davey.
>
>>This is now the THIRD time YOU have
>>claimed that ASTC kicked me out. It is NOT true and you KNOW it is NOT
>>true.
>>But you LIE anyway. It's WHO you are!
> Projection noted.
Really, stalker? It remains that YOU LIED.
krp
> DDM >>> He's no longer on their member list.....
(Neither is Dean Tong)
> > >> DJS#3> pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the
> > >> ASTC has
> > >> DJS#3> been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist
> > >> and
> > >> DJS#3> sexist postings on usenet.
>
> > >> Sullivan you pervert - WHY do you NEED to post such libel? Moore is
> > >> bad enough, but YOU have to embellish his BULLSHIT! You are showing
> > >> you
> > >> have tremendous MENTAL PROBLEMS, Sullivan!
> > > Your lack of denial is duly noted, pangborn.
>
> > Denial of what? I called your LIBEL what it IS a LIE. YOU are a
> > pathetic fukking LIAR, Sullivan. I was NOT "booted" from ASTC . That is
> > your
> > psychotic delusion.
>
> DJS#3> Not "booted?"
>
> That's correct, NOT booted.
>
> DJS#3> Asked to leave?
>
> Also NOT true. But you'll LIE anyway. AS USUAL!
>
> DJS#3> Dropped as a member?
>
> No, Danny, I elected not to renew.
DJS#3> When will your websites reflect your decision not to renew your
DJS#3> membership with the ASTC?
When I get around to it. They will continue to document that I was a
member for almost 20 years. BUT you can wtite the folks again, Danny and
WHINE about that too.
> DSS#3> What reason could you possibly have for leaving the ASTC, pangborn?
> I have my reasons I choose NOT to make public. They have nothing to do
> with ME.
DJS#3> What did the ASTC do or not do to cause you to not renew your
membership?
Not a question you are entitled to an answer on, Danny. Not for public
consumption.
DJS#3> If the reason had nothing to do with your decision, why would you
choose to protect the ASTC?
Because I am NOPT a vengeful prick LIKE YOU, Sullivan!
> It is obvious you have been LYING again Danny when you claimed I
> had been "booted" One more of your BALD FACED LIBELOUS LIES!
The name DAN SULLIVAN has become a synonym for LIBELOUS BULLSHIT!
Kent Wills
wrote:
You're under the misguided impression I care.
That the ethical standards of its members has increased with your
departure is enough for me.
"I am insane!"
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-team,
posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated claiming that he was found
legally insane.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>DAVID MOORE THE STALKER from CALUMET CITY, ILLINOIS
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:2816464504f08ef0...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
>>>> He's no longer on their member list.....
>
>>>HILARIOUS!!!
>
>>>pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the ASTC has
>>>been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
>>>sexist postings on usenet.
>>
>>>Time to start with the others.
>
>> This is the second major organization which has dismissed Ken Pangborn
>> from
>> its ranks in recent years (the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's Association
>> kicked him out
>
> Sorry Davey that's YOUR fantasy. I was never a member of the Texas group
>for OBVIOUS reasons. I am NOT a lawyer.
Your bogus CV was on the site for a number of years. You may
recall how I proved it was listed for four years.
>This is now the THIRD time YOU have
>claimed that ASTC kicked me out. It is NOT true and you KNOW it is NOT true.
>But you LIE anyway. It's WHO you are!
Prove David lied. If you weren't kicked out, you should be able
to prove the real reason.
"(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"
Kenneth Robert Pangborn admitting he alters the context of posts
when he replies.
MID FyUom.1363$Jd7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net
Kent Wills
wrote:
>DAVID MOORE CALUMET CITY PANTYWAIST
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:d4d6ebc25242e40d...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
>>>>>> He's no longer on their member list.....
>>>
>>>>>HILARIOUS!!!
>>>
>>>>>pangborn, the only self proclaimed "certified" member of the ASTC has
>>>>>been booted because of the BS on his websites and his racist and
>>>>>sexist postings on usenet.
>>>>
>>>>>Time to start with the others.
>
>
>>>> This is the second major organization which has dismissed Ken Pangborn
>>>> from
>>>> its ranks in recent years (the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
>>>> Association
>>>> kicked him out
>
>>> Sorry Davey that's YOUR fantasy. I was never a member of the Texas
>>> group
>>>for OBVIOUS reasons. I am NOT a lawyer.
>
>> You were a member as an "expert."
>
> Not by MY hand, Davey.
No one claimed you made the web site, dullard.
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn claiming in misc.legal that David Moore can
and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
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Dan Sullivan
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
"Will continue???"
HOW will ASTC "continue" to document that you were a member?
> BUT you can wtite the folks again, Danny and
> WHINE about that too.
I never contacted the ASTC once about you, pangborn.
The fact that you believe the ASTC was contacted demonstrates that
complaints did cause them to drop you as a mamber.
> > DSS#3> What reason could you possibly have for leaving the ASTC, pangborn?
> > I have my reasons I choose NOT to make public. They have nothing to do
> > with ME.
>
> DJS#3> What did the ASTC do or not do to cause you to not renew your
> membership?
>
> Not a question you are entitled to an answer on, Danny. Not for public
> consumption.
Did the ASTC decline to allow you to renew your membership?
Is that how the ax fell on your scam?
> DJS#3> If the reason had nothing to do with your decision, why would you
> choose to protect the ASTC?
>
> Because I am NOPT a vengeful prick LIKE YOU, Sullivan!
So the ASTC DID do something to YOU!!!
I can't tell you how bad I feel about it!!!
krp
DJS#3> I never contacted the ASTC once about you, pangborn.
BULLSHIT! Check your FACTS DANNY BOY!
krp
> BUT you can write the folks again, Danny and
> WHINE about that too.
DJS#3> I never contacted the ASTC once about you, pangborn.
DJS#3> The fact that you believe the ASTC was contacted demonstrates that
DJS#3> complaints did cause them to drop you as a mamber.
A "mamber?" Sorry Danny get your FACTS right.
DJS#3> Did the ASTC decline to allow you to renew your membership?
Absolutely NOT. AGAIN you are a frigging LIAR, Sullivan. You can't help
it. It's a MENTAL thing with you.
krp
> Prove David lied. If you weren't kicked out, you should be able
> to prove the real reason.
What if I was NOT kicked out at all? What if your gay lover (Moore)
LIED????
krp
"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Oh Danny why do you guys NEVER check your FACTS? Try looking yourself
instead of just BRAIN DEAD accepting the word of the Moore-on with his dick
in your ear.
You are such an IDIOT!!
Dan Sullivan
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:2eb4d8df-bea1-41d0...@a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
> Oh Danny why do you guys NEVER check your FACTS? Try looking yourself
> instead of just BRAIN DEAD accepting the word of the Moore-on with his dick
> in your ear.
>
> You are such an IDIOT!!
>
What are you trying to prove, pangborn?
Greegor
Dave, When are you going to hand over your hate site to Ken?
krp
> Oh Danny why do you guys NEVER check your FACTS? Try looking yourself
> instead of just BRAIN DEAD accepting the word of the Moore-on with his
> dick
> in your ear.
>
> You are such an IDIOT!!
>
> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&...
DJS#3> What are you trying to prove, pangborn?
PROVED, Danny boy. PROVED, yet again, stalker. YOU claimed that ASTC had
"booted" me. I see you AGAIN deliberately SNIPPED the link so it wouldn't
connect. So you could continue to LIE your ass off. Sullivan you and the
rest of the "gang of 4" are so desperate.
CORRECT LINK but feel free to SNIP it again so you can keep on LYING:
You 4 have been very amusing LAB animals.
krp
"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7e087c05-3f14-465a...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> Dave, When are you going to hand over your hate site to Ken?
Well his DID "swear" that if I could show he was wrong about me allegedly
being "BOOTED" from ASTC that he'd "immediately" hand over the website to me
and leave the internet forever. One more chance for LITTLE DAVEY MOORE to
prove that his "WORD OF HONOR" is totally worthless.
Greegor
G > Dave, When are you going to hand over your hate site to Ken?
KRP > Well his DID "swear" that if I could show he
KRP > was wrong about me allegedly being "BOOTED"
KRP > from ASTC that he'd "immediately" hand
KRP > over the website to me and leave the internet
KRP > forever. One more chance for LITTLE DAVEY
KRP > MOORE to prove that his
KRP > "WORD OF HONOR" is totally worthless.
Dave?
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:333aa872-caf1-4c8f...@s6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Oh Danny why do you guys NEVER check your FACTS? Try looking yourself
>> instead of just BRAIN DEAD accepting the word of the Moore-on with his
>> dick
>> in your ear.
>>
>> You are such an IDIOT!!
>>
>> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&...
>
> DJS#3> What are you trying to prove, pangborn?
>
> PROVED, Danny boy. PROVED, yet again, stalker.
What you have proved, pangborn, is that you are a liar year after year.
Last year when you were caught not being listed as a member of the ASTC you
claimed you were "flying under the radar."
And then you paid your ASTC dues and were listed again.
This year you claimed you chose not to re-up your membership.
What lie have you got planned for next year?
krp
>>> Oh Danny why do you guys NEVER check your FACTS? Try looking yourself
>>> instead of just BRAIN DEAD accepting the word of the Moore-on with his
>>> dick
>>> in your ear.
>>>
>>> You are such an IDIOT!!
>
>>> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&...
AGAIN snipping to cover his LIE:
Poor DANNY, AGAIN his LIE is exposed.
>> DJS#3> What are you trying to prove, pangborn?
>> PROVED, Danny boy. PROVED, yet again, stalker.
> What you have proved, pangborn, is that you are a liar year after year.
> Last year when you were caught not being listed as a member of the ASTC
> you claimed you were "flying under the radar."
I WAS and you fell for it. You MORON this is the second year in a ROW I
have played "ROPE A DOPE" with you and WON. You're too stupid to know it.
> And then you paid your ASTC dues and were listed again.
> This year you claimed you chose not to re-up your membership.
> What lie have you got planned for next year?
You never know, Danny, until YOU step in it AGAIN!!! MORON!
krp
> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&dir_company=&dir_city=&dir_state=&areasofpractice=&areasoftc=&submit=Locate+Consultant
>
> G > Dave, When are you going to hand over your hate site to Ken?
>
> KRP > was wrong about me allegedly being "BOOTED"
> KRP > from ASTC that he'd "immediately" hand
> KRP > over the website to me and leave the internet
> KRP > forever. One more chance for LITTLE DAVEY
> KRP > MOORE to prove that his
> KRP > "WORD OF HONOR" is totally worthless.
>
> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&dir_company=&dir_city=&dir_state=&areasofpractice=&areasoftc=&submit=Locate+Consultant
>
> Dave?
He's HIDING. Maybe it's in the mail OR he's on his way EAST on an IMPORTANT
SECRET MISSION for his MASSIVE COALITION FORCES.
freedom
>"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:7e087c05-3f14-465a...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>
>> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&dir
>> _company=&dir_city=&dir_state=&areasofpractice=&areasoftc=&submit=Locate
>> +Consultant
>
>> Dave, When are you going to hand over your hate site to Ken?
>
>Well his DID "swear" that if I could show he was wrong about me allegedly
>being "BOOTED" from ASTC that he'd "immediately" hand over the website to me
>and leave the internet forever. One more chance for LITTLE DAVEY MOORE to
>prove that his "WORD OF HONOR" is totally worthless.
Funny, I don't recall "swearing" anything of the sort. Please refresh my
memory by posting a link to the message where I said this, and I'll indeed
hand the site over to you. I'll wait.
Kent Wills
wrote:
Dan would be in the best possition to know if he had or had not
contacted any organization.
If you can prove your claim that he's contacted the ASTC, do so. If
you're lying, you'll offer nothing.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>DJS#3> Did the ASTC decline to allow you to renew your membership?
>
> Absolutely NOT. AGAIN you are a frigging LIAR, Sullivan. You can't help
>it. It's a MENTAL thing with you.
How is Dan's asking you a question a lie? Be specific, unless
you've just exposed your LOVE of lies once again.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:9k70e5ljtc94fe4j3...@4ax.com...
>
>> Prove David lied. If you weren't kicked out, you should be able
>> to prove the real reason.
>
>
> What if I was NOT kicked out at all?
Then you'll be able to prove the real reason.
I note you've offered NOTHING to support your claim that you left
voluntarily.
Kent Wills
wrote:
Post the MID and/or Google link to the post where he did as you
claim.
If you're lying, you'll never post the MID and/or Google link.
"Maybe he's like me to attach some kiddie porn to aid his fantasies"
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, expressing
his fondness for child porn in
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Kent Wills
wrote:
Outside of your paranoia, there is no MASSIVE COALITION FORCE.
Really. I know you believe with all your being there is such a force
out to get you, but the simple truth is it's all in your head.
Get the mental health care you NEED, Pangborn. Clearly your
paranoia is acting up again.
"CPS cases are legal matters. Offering advice IS practicing law
without a license."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn admitting he practices law without a
license in misc.legal
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:4ae0e444$0$22536$607e...@cv.net...
>
>>>> Oh Danny why do you guys NEVER check your FACTS? Try looking yourself
>>>> instead of just BRAIN DEAD accepting the word of the Moore-on with his
>>>> dick
>>>> in your ear.
>>>>
>>>> You are such an IDIOT!!
>>
>>>> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&...
>
>AGAIN snipping to cover his LIE:
>
>http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&dir_company=&dir_city=&dir_state=&areasofpractice=&areasoftc=&submit=Locate+Consultant
>
>Poor DANNY, AGAIN his LIE is exposed.
>
>>> DJS#3> What are you trying to prove, pangborn?
>
>>> PROVED, Danny boy. PROVED, yet again, stalker.
>
>> What you have proved, pangborn, is that you are a liar year after year.
>> Last year when you were caught not being listed as a member of the ASTC
>> you claimed you were "flying under the radar."
>
> I WAS and you fell for it. You MORON this is the second year in a ROW I
>have played "ROPE A DOPE" with you and WON. You're too stupid to know it.
>
So two years in a row you were UNABLE to pay the dues when due?
Two years in a row you had to SCRAMBLE to get enough money to pay
AFTER you were made a laughing stock?
That should be a sign, Ken.
>> And then you paid your ASTC dues and were listed again.
>> This year you claimed you chose not to re-up your membership.
>> What lie have you got planned for next year?
>
>
> You never know, Danny, until YOU step in it AGAIN!!! MORON!
At least you admit you've been lying. That's a big step for you,
and I honestly applaud you for taking it.
krp
>>
>>>>> Oh Danny why do you guys NEVER check your FACTS? Try looking yourself
>>>>> instead of just BRAIN DEAD accepting the word of the Moore-on with his
>>>>> dick
>>>>> in your ear.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are such an IDIOT!!
>>>
>>>>> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&...
>>
>>AGAIN snipping to cover his LIE:
>>
>>http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&dir_company=&dir_city=&dir_state=&areasofpractice=&areasoftc=&submit=Locate+Consultant
>>
>>Poor DANNY, AGAIN his LIE is exposed.
>>
>>>> DJS#3> What are you trying to prove, pangborn?
>>
>>>> PROVED, Danny boy. PROVED, yet again, stalker.
>>
>>> What you have proved, pangborn, is that you are a liar year after year.
>>> Last year when you were caught not being listed as a member of the ASTC
>>> you claimed you were "flying under the radar."
>>
>> I WAS and you fell for it. You MORON this is the second year in a ROW
>> I
>>have played "ROPE A DOPE" with you and WON. You're too stupid to know it.
>>
>
> So two years in a row you were UNABLE to pay the dues when due?
If I didn't know better, I would think ALL Polish people were felons who
LIED all the time. Good thing I know is is a SMALL percentage of the
population that even other Poles refer to as dumb Polacks!
krp
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:30:17 -0400, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:c8524058-ce0d-42ec...@o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>>> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&dir_company=&dir_city=&dir_state=&areasofpractice=&areasoftc=&submit=Locate+Consultant
>>>
>>> G > Dave, When are you going to hand over your hate site to Ken?
>>>
>>> KRP > Well he DID "swear" that if I could show he
>>> KRP > was wrong about me allegedly being "BOOTED"
>>> KRP > from ASTC that he'd "immediately" hand
>>> KRP > over the website to me and leave the internet
>>> KRP > forever. One more chance for LITTLE DAVEY
>>> KRP > MOORE to prove that his
>>> KRP > "WORD OF HONOR" is totally worthless.
>>>
>>> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&dir_company=&dir_city=&dir_state=&areasofpractice=&areasoftc=&submit=Locate+Consultant
>>>
>>> Dave?
>>
>>He's HIDING. Maybe it's in the mail OR he's on his way EAST on an
>>IMPORTANT
>>SECRET MISSION for his MASSIVE COALITION FORCES.
> Outside of your paranoia, there is no MASSIVE COALITION FORCE.
I know that Kunt, buit yopurt GAY LOVER, Moore does NOT! He REALLY
BELIEVES he is the "Allied SUpreme Commander" of some MASSIVE ""coalition
forces" on the internet. Moore's raiders. You should get him to show you
his "Fuehrer Bunker" sometime in his mommy's basement. Although after a
defector told about the COMMAND BUNKER he is pretty sensitive about who he
lets down there. There are traitors everywhere.
> Really. I know you believe with all your being there is such a force
> out to get you, but the simple truth is it's all in your head.
No, Polack, I keep telling you that *I* do NOT believe that your pal
Moore commands ANYONE. It's all in HIS MIND.
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:7e087c05-3f14-465a...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com
>>> Dave, When are you going to hand over your hate site to Ken?
>>
>>Well his DID "swear" that if I could show he was wrong about me allegedly
>>being "BOOTED" from ASTC that he'd "immediately" hand over the website to
>>me
>>and leave the internet forever. One more chance for LITTLE DAVEY MOORE to
>>prove that his "WORD OF HONOR" is totally worthless.
>
> Funny, I don't recall "swearing" anything of the sort.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Again, Moore you PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt
that your "WORD OF HONOR" is worthless. It would only mean something IF you
had even an ounce of honor. But anyone who has followed your postings,
Moore, KNOWS how UTTERLY WORTHLESS your "WORD" is on ANYTHING! How
completely bereft of HONOR you are. Anyone NEAR normal would have slinked
off into the night sky by now. NOT YOU the sociopath.
Dan Sullivan
> TYPICAL DAVEY MOORE
> "freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
> news:adb6b38ffae8d6f6...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:7e087c05-3f14-465a...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com
>
>>>> Dave, When are you going to hand over your hate site to Ken?
>>>
>>>Well his DID "swear" that if I could show he was wrong about me allegedly
>>>being "BOOTED" from ASTC that he'd "immediately" hand over the website to
>>>me
>>>and leave the internet forever. One more chance for LITTLE DAVEY MOORE to
>>>prove that his "WORD OF HONOR" is totally worthless.
>>
>> Funny, I don't recall "swearing" anything of the sort.
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Again, Moore you PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt
> that your "WORD OF HONOR" is worthless. It would only mean something IF
> you had even an ounce of honor.
pangborn, you lie year after year, post after post.
You deserve everything you get.
lostintranslation
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c8524058-ce0d-42ec...@o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>
> >http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&...
>
> > G > Dave, When are you going to hand over your hate site to Ken?
>
> > KRP > Well he DID "swear" that if I could show he
> > KRP > was wrong about me allegedly being "BOOTED"
> > KRP > from ASTC that he'd "immediately" hand
> > KRP > over the website to me and leave the internet
> > KRP > forever. One more chance for LITTLE DAVEY
> > KRP > MOORE to prove that his
> > KRP > "WORD OF HONOR" is totally worthless.
>
>
> > Dave?
>
> He's HIDING. Maybe it's in the mail OR he's on his way EAST on an IMPORTANT
> SECRET MISSION for his MASSIVE COALITION FORCES.
I will have the coffee ready. I wonder if my visitors would like
pumpkin or apple pie. They are the all time favorites to us New
Englanders. Wonder if my want to be guests will be willing to post
here to let me know the time and dates of their supposed visits so I
will make sure I am here. Waiting.
freedom
>On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:33:50 -0400, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:7e087c05-3f14-465a...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&di
>>> r_company=&dir_city=&dir_state=&areasofpractice=&areasoftc=&submit=Loca
>>> te+Consultant
>>
>>> Dave, When are you going to hand over your hate site to Ken?
>>
>>Well his DID "swear" that if I could show he was wrong about me allegedly
>>being "BOOTED" from ASTC that he'd "immediately" hand over the website to me
>>and leave the internet forever. One more chance for LITTLE DAVEY MOORE to
>>prove that his "WORD OF HONOR" is totally worthless.
>>
>>http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&dir_
>>company=&dir_city=&dir_state=&areasofpractice=&areasoftc=&submit=Locate+C
>>onsultant
>
> Post the MID and/or Google link to the post where he did as you
>claim.
> If you're lying, you'll never post the MID and/or Google link.
Greg can get in in this as well. If he were to produce the message ID or
link, I'd hand http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com over to him, and he could
then do as he wished with it. He could hand it over to Ken, who might then
be proud of him and stop thinking of him as a "below average schmuck."
Alternatively, Greg could hold onto the URL himself and extort Ken for
cash, perhaps out of resentment for years of being used and kicked by Ken.
This would be interesting, but not likely, as it would require independent
thought by Greg.
Gotta say though, it's funny above how Greg repeats yet another of Ken's
lies, despite knowing what Ken really thinks of him.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>TYPICAL DAVEY MOORE
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:adb6b38ffae8d6f6...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:7e087c05-3f14-465a...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com
>
>>>> Dave, When are you going to hand over your hate site to Ken?
>>>
>>>Well his DID "swear" that if I could show he was wrong about me allegedly
>>>being "BOOTED" from ASTC that he'd "immediately" hand over the website to
>>>me
>>>and leave the internet forever. One more chance for LITTLE DAVEY MOORE to
>>>prove that his "WORD OF HONOR" is totally worthless.
>>
>> Funny, I don't recall "swearing" anything of the sort. Please refresh my
>>memory by posting a link to the message where I said this, and I'll indeed
>>hand the site over to you. I'll wait.
>
>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Again, Moore you PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt
>that your "WORD OF HONOR" is worthless. It would only mean something IF you
>had even an ounce of honor. But anyone who has followed your postings,
>Moore, KNOWS how UTTERLY WORTHLESS your "WORD" is on ANYTHING! How
>completely bereft of HONOR you are. Anyone NEAR normal would have slinked
>off into the night sky by now. NOT YOU the sociopath.
Where's the link, Ken?
Did David just expose ANOTHER of your MANY pathological lies?
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
[...]
>>>Well his DID "swear" that if I could show he was wrong about me allegedly
>>>being "BOOTED" from ASTC that he'd "immediately" hand over the website to me
>>>and leave the internet forever. One more chance for LITTLE DAVEY MOORE to
>>>prove that his "WORD OF HONOR" is totally worthless.
>>>
>>>http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&dir_
>>>company=&dir_city=&dir_state=&areasofpractice=&areasoftc=&submit=Locate+C
>>>onsultant
>>
>> Post the MID and/or Google link to the post where he did as you
>>claim.
>> If you're lying, you'll never post the MID and/or Google link.
>
>Greg can get in in this as well. If he were to produce the message ID or
>link, I'd hand http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com over to him, and he could
>then do as he wished with it. He could hand it over to Ken, who might then
>be proud of him and stop thinking of him as a "below average schmuck."
>
>Alternatively, Greg could hold onto the URL himself and extort Ken for
>cash, perhaps out of resentment for years of being used and kicked by Ken.
>This would be interesting, but not likely, as it would require independent
>thought by Greg.
>
>Gotta say though, it's funny above how Greg repeats yet another of Ken's
>lies, despite knowing what Ken really thinks of him.
>
Greg doesn't have much choice, really. He has NO friends on-line
other than Ken.
Yes, Ken uses Greg, but that's as close to a friends as Greg will
ever hope to get on-line. Possibly in real life as well, though I
know of no convenient way to confirm or deny this.
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
>criminals
"It's attached to a thing called a "WIFE" Betty."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn showing how he views his wife
as an object and NOT a human being.
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Kent Wills
wrote:
I will be using the Kenneth Robert Pangborn Rules of Posting� for
this reply. I'm confident he will be please.
[...]
>>>> Dave?
>>>
>>>He's HIDING. Maybe it's in the mail OR he's on his way EAST on an
>>>IMPORTANT
>>>SECRET MISSION for his MASSIVE COALITION FORCES.
>
>> Outside of your paranoia, there is no MASSIVE COALITION FORCE.
>
> I know that Kunt
Then why does your paranoid mind force you to believe and claim
there is?
Kent Wills
<lostintran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 22, 7:30�pm, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:c8524058-ce0d-42ec...@o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&...
>>
>> > G > Dave, When are you going to hand over your hate site to Ken?
>>
>> > KRP > Well he DID "swear" that if I could show he
>> > KRP > was wrong about me allegedly being "BOOTED"
>> > KRP > from ASTC that he'd "immediately" hand
>> > KRP > over the website to me and leave the internet
>> > KRP > forever. One more chance for LITTLE DAVEY
>> > KRP > MOORE to prove that his
>> > KRP > "WORD OF HONOR" is totally worthless.
>>
>> >http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&...
>>
>> > Dave?
>>
>> He's HIDING. �Maybe it's in the mail OR he's on his way EAST on an IMPORTANT
>> SECRET MISSION for his MASSIVE COALITION FORCES.
>
>I will have the coffee ready. I wonder if my visitors would like
>pumpkin or apple pie.
[...]
Please don't feed Ken's paranoia. I realize it's tempting to do
so. I've been tempted to do it from time to time.
Even though the temptation is great, I respectfully request that
you cease from feeding his paranoia. It's doing him more harm than
good.
--
"Kent"
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>>>
You hate honesty so much you are no longer even willing to TRY
and be honest, huh?
Why, exactly, do you love to lie so much, Pangborn?
krp
RE: Claims by the gang of 4 that I was kicked out of ASTC. FACT CLAIMS. Not
just that I was but claims of inside info on WHY!!!
>>>>>>> Oh Danny why do you guys NEVER check your FACTS? Try looking
>>>>>>> yourself
>>>>>>> instead of just BRAIN DEAD accepting the word of the Moore-on with
>>>>>>> his dick
>>>>>>> in your ear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are such an IDIOT!!
>>>>>>> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&...
Sullivan SNIPPED the full link no less than 6 times to TRY to perpetuate his
LIE that I was "booted" from ASTC and conceal that I wasn't.
>>>>AGAIN snipping to cover his LIE:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&dir_company=&dir_city=&dir_state=&areasofpractice=&areasoftc=&submit=Locate+Consultant
>>>>
>>>>Poor DANNY, AGAIN his LIE is exposed.
>>>>
>>>>>> DJS#3> What are you trying to prove, pangborn?
>>>>
>>>>>> PROVED, Danny boy. PROVED, yet again, stalker.
>>>>
>>>>> What you have proved, pangborn, is that you are a liar year after
>>>>> year.
>>>>> Last year when you were caught not being listed as a member of the
>>>>> ASTC
>>>>> you claimed you were "flying under the radar."
>>>> I WAS and you fell for it. You MORON this is the second year in a
>>>> ROW I
>>>>have played "ROPE A DOPE" with you and WON. You're too stupid to know
>>>>it.
>>> So two years in a row you were UNABLE to pay the dues when due?
>> If I didn't know better, I would think ALL Polish people were felons
>> who
>>LIED all the time. Good thing I know is is a SMALL percentage of the
>>population that even other Poles refer to as dumb Polacks!
> You hate honesty so much you are no longer even willing to TRY and be
> honest, huh?
> Why, exactly, do you love to lie so much, Pangborn?
The POINT here, KUNT - is the claims you guys in the GANG OF 4 have been
making. DELIBERATE LIES. AGAIN I have taken you people to the MAT and beat
the shit out of you. I played out the game with you IDIOTS just to see how
HUGE your lies would grow to be. And the old saying:
"LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE - NOSE AS LONG AS A TELEPHONE WIRE!" Applies to you
guys. CHANGE THE SUBJECT and RUN like a sissy, Kunt, it is ALL you have
left. I keep catching your lies and exposing them. I maneuver you into
continued embellishment of your bullshit just to PROVE what you people are.
And you oblige so easily.
krp
You mean all the people LAUGHING at your STUPIDITY is starting to hurt,
Kunt? Yesterday YOU were claiming that her name is NOT "Kim" and that she
is NOT a female. You said you had PROOF. Kunt you have become a
laughingstock. You aren't smart enough to know it.First your BULLSHIT that I
was kicked out of ASTC and then your STUPID STUPID STUPID shit about Kim.
We have to invent a new word signifying someone considerably more stupid
than a Polack. You have become an insult even to that group of idiots.
Kent Wills
wrote:
Post the MID and/or Google link to any post where I made such a
claim or admit you're constant consumption of alcohol (unless you were
lying about that as well) has once again forced you to lie.
>Kunt you have become a
>laughingstock. You aren't smart enough to know it.First your BULLSHIT that I
>was kicked out of ASTC
I made no such claim.
>and then your STUPID STUPID STUPID shit about Kim.
How is it stupid?
>We have to invent a new word signifying someone considerably more stupid
>than a Polack. You have become an insult even to that group of idiots.
>
That you're a bigot is well known and documented. A very small
sample of that documentation, consisting of your own writing, can be
seen at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/race.html
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:and5e5179u80nqrpi...@4ax.com...
>
>RE: Claims by the gang of 4 that I was kicked out of ASTC. FACT CLAIMS. Not
>just that I was but claims of inside info on WHY!!!
>
>>>>>>>> Oh Danny why do you guys NEVER check your FACTS? Try looking
>>>>>>>> yourself
>>>>>>>> instead of just BRAIN DEAD accepting the word of the Moore-on with
>>>>>>>> his dick
>>>>>>>> in your ear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are such an IDIOT!!
>
>>>>>>>> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&...
>
>Sullivan SNIPPED the full link no less than 6 times to TRY to perpetuate his
>LIE that I was "booted" from ASTC and conceal that I wasn't.
Liar.
Google, the service from which he posts, snipped it. And he only
posted it the one time. It remained snipped in replies, but unless
your legally insane (unless you lied) mind is so far gone there is no
hope, even you can't see quotes of an author as a post from said
author.
[...]
>
>>> If I didn't know better, I would think ALL Polish people were felons
>>> who
>>>LIED all the time. Good thing I know is is a SMALL percentage of the
>>>population that even other Poles refer to as dumb Polacks!
>
>> You hate honesty so much you are no longer even willing to TRY and be
>> honest, huh?
>> Why, exactly, do you love to lie so much, Pangborn?
>
>
> The POINT here, KUNT - is the claims you guys in the GANG OF 4 have been
>making. DELIBERATE LIES.
When has anyone lied? Be specific and prepared to have your lies
exposed.
>AGAIN I have taken you people to the MAT and beat
>the shit out of you. I played out the game with you IDIOTS just to see how
>HUGE your lies would grow to be. And the old saying:
So you LIED when you claimed you left the group and joined
another.
That you lied, unless you are lying now, does not come as a
surprise to me. I doubt, but can't know, that it failed to shock
anyone else.
>
>"LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE - NOSE AS LONG AS A TELEPHONE WIRE!" Applies to you
>guys.
You just PROVED you lied. How does your lying apply to anyone
other than you?
>CHANGE THE SUBJECT and RUN like a sissy, Kunt, it is ALL you have
>left.
You do change the subject a great deal. Projecting your actions
onto another only serves to further prove you HATE honesty.
>I keep catching your lies and exposing them. I maneuver you into
>continued embellishment of your bullshit just to PROVE what you people are.
>And you oblige so easily.
When have I embellished anything? I asked if you were unable to
pay your dues on time. You RAN from the question, giving me reason to
suspect that's exactly what happened.
Even if we pretend the ASTC would tell me the reason for your not
being listed, you lack the importance to motivate me to ask. It's
enough that your RUNNING from my question supports, though does not
prove, the idea that you couldn't afford to pay on time.
krp
>>RE: Claims by the gang of 4 that I was kicked out of ASTC. FACT CLAIMS.
>>Not
>>just that I was but claims of inside info on WHY!!!
>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh Danny why do you guys NEVER check your FACTS? Try looking
>>>>>>>>> yourself
>>>>>>>>> instead of just BRAIN DEAD accepting the word of the Moore-on with
>>>>>>>>> his dick
>>>>>>>>> in your ear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are such an IDIOT!!
>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&...
>>
>>Sullivan SNIPPED the full link no less than 6 times to TRY to perpetuate
>>his
>>LIE that I was "booted" from ASTC and conceal that I wasn't.
> Liar.
> Google, the service from which he posts, snipped it. And he only
> posted it the one time. It remained snipped in replies, but unless
> your legally insane (unless you lied) mind is so far gone there is no
> hope, even you can't see quotes of an author as a post from said
> author.
Funny Danny must have a SPECIAL GOOGLE service, everyone else seem s to
quote the whole link and they also use GOOGLE.. Of course, being a STUPID
POLACK you miss the part where he TRIES to argue that the link doesn't prove
that I wasn't BOOTED from ASTC. Note how Sullivan NOW tries to avoid the
subject? He did the same HOWLING act LAST YEAR! And in one post he even
BOASTED, "one down two more to go."
> When has anyone lied? Be specific and prepared to have your lies
> exposed.
Your FACT C LAIMS that I was kicked out of ASTC for starters. Then the
rest of your delusio0nal BULLSHIT, Kunt.
>>"LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE - NOSE AS LONG AS A TELEPHONE WIRE!" Applies to
>>you
>>guys.
>
>>AGAIN I have taken you people to the MAT and beat
>>the shit out of you. I played out the game with you IDIOTS just to see how
>>HUGE your lies would grow to be. And the old saying:
> So you LIED when you claimed you left the group and joined
> another.
It is called "ROPE A DOPE" you MORON. Playing along just far enough to
see how FAR you were willing to go. And you AGAIN fell for it HOOK - LINE-
and SINKER there fishie!
> Even if we pretend the ASTC would tell me the reason for your not
> being listed, you lack the importance to motivate me to ask. It's
> enough that your RUNNING from my question supports, though does not
> prove, the idea that you couldn't afford to pay on time.
Running from WHAT question pussycat? Doesn't your ASS hurt badly enough
POLACK? BEND OVER, I'll give you a few more whacks with the chain on it.
krp
Kunt you even TRIED to confront Kim that she isn't KIm and female. YOU
ARE A POLISHG JOKE, Wills! The folks in AUK are falling on the floor
splitting their guys LAUGHING at you!
>>Kunt you have become a
>>laughingstock. You aren't smart enough to know it.First your BULLSHIT that
>>I
>>was kicked out of ASTC
> I made no such claim.
Yeah you DID. Or maybe it was the "OTHER" Kent Wills? Little boy -
EVERYONE is laughing at you.
>>and then your STUPID STUPID STUPID shit about Kim.
> How is it stupid?
I can't explain it to a stupid Polack who can't understand it. You just
DENIED you made the claim.
Greegor
KRP > I can't explain it to a stupid Polack who
KRP > can't understand it. You just
KRP > DENIED you made the claim.
Of course!
Kent argues about it and when it's proven to
be BS he just denies he made the claim.
krp
That is when he isn't claiming it is the OTHER Kent Wills.
lostintranslation
> Poor CONFUSED"Kent Wills" <compu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Kent you are the one that said you and Greg knew for a long time that
I was not female nor was my name Kim. Why are you backpedalling and
denying you said that? Why are you also saying now that although you
DID say that, you were just repeating someone else's claims? Are you
confused and off your meds today ? Or is this your typical way of
thinking?
lostintranslation
Ken, it's stupid shit because that is all Kent knows how to spew. I
mean honestly, how can he go from claiming I am not Kim/female to
claiming he made no such claims to most recently, admitting he said it
but was just going on someone else's claim? It just gets curiouser
and curiouser.
lostintranslation
OH but now he's admitting he did say it but his claim was solely based
on someone else's claim. Oh the tangled web of Kent!
~The other LIT~female
Kent Wills
wrote:
>> Google, the service from which he posts, snipped it. And he only
>> posted it the one time. It remained snipped in replies, but unless
>> your legally insane (unless you lied) mind is so far gone there is no
>> hope, even you can't see quotes of an author as a post from said
>> author.
>
> Funny Danny must have a SPECIAL GOOGLE service, everyone else seem s to
>quote the whole link and they also use GOOGLE..
Have you ever read Greg's posts? He has the same problem.
How is it that you've never seen reason to whine about his
inability to post full links with Google?
Did I just expose ANOTHER of your double standards?
>Of course, being a STUPID
>POLACK
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/race.html
That you're a bigot is accepted and proved. A small sample of
the documentation, consisting of your own writings, can be found at
the link above.
It's nice that you feel the need or desire to add more proof, but
at this point, it's no longer necessary. That you're a bigot is
accepted.
>you miss the part where he TRIES to argue that the link doesn't prove
>that I wasn't BOOTED from ASTC.
In fact, it doesn't. It proves you are a member now, but it
doesn't explain why you weren't for a short time.
Maybe you see something I don't. If so, please point out where
it explains the reason you weren't a member. I freely admit I don't
see what you claim is there.
>Note how Sullivan NOW tries to avoid the
>subject?
You'll need to point out exactly how he's done so. I doubt those
who don't chug gallons of booze as you do (unless, of course, you lied
when you claimed alcoholism was the reason you were found legally
insane) will be able to see it. I assure you, I can't.
>He did the same HOWLING act LAST YEAR! And in one post he even
>BOASTED, "one down two more to go."
Why do you lie? What is the specific reason?
>
>> When has anyone lied? Be specific and prepared to have your lies
>> exposed.
>
> Your FACT C LAIMS that I was kicked out of ASTC for starters. Then the
>rest of your delusio0nal BULLSHIT, Kunt.
I've never made such a claim. Asking if you were unable to pay
the dues on time is not making the fact claim that you were booted.
What is the SPECIFIC reason you lie about such things?
>>>"LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE - NOSE AS LONG AS A TELEPHONE WIRE!" Applies to
>>>you
>>>guys.
>>
>
>
>>>AGAIN I have taken you people to the MAT and beat
>>>the shit out of you. I played out the game with you IDIOTS just to see how
>>>HUGE your lies would grow to be. And the old saying:
>
>> So you LIED when you claimed you left the group and joined
>> another.
>
> It is called "ROPE A DOPE" you MORON.
You may call your pathological lying any term that makes life a
bit easier for you. If you wish to call your constant lying rope a
dope, that's fine. It's still pathological lying on your part.
>Playing along just far enough to
>see how FAR you were willing to go. And you AGAIN fell for it HOOK - LINE-
>and SINKER there fishie!
How so? I asked a question. One you've never answered.
Rather than answer, you've done your best to try and distract from
it. It's one of your more favored tactics when you can no longer lie
your way out of something.
>
>> Even if we pretend the ASTC would tell me the reason for your not
>> being listed, you lack the importance to motivate me to ask. It's
>> enough that your RUNNING from my question supports, though does not
>> prove, the idea that you couldn't afford to pay on time.
>
>
> Running from WHAT question pussycat?
Where you unable to pay the dues on time, just like last year?
BTW, I'm not gay. Your addressing me with an affectionate pet
name isn't going to make me gay.
Visit a local gay bar, if there are any. You'll probably enjoy
more luck than trying to get me to suddenly become a homosexual by
reading your lustful desires for me and other men.
>Doesn't your ASS hurt badly enough
>POLACK? BEND OVER, I'll give you a few more whacks with the chain on it.
You're gay. I think everyone has accepted this. Certainly no
one is attempting to deny it.
You may attempt to divert the conversation into some gay bashing
angle, but it's not going to work. You've tried this same method for
well over a year (probably more), and you've always failed. Even you
should be able to accept the simple truth that no one cares that
you're actually gay.
Accept this simple truth and move on with your life.
"(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"
Kenneth Robert Pangborn admitting he alters the context of posts
when he replies.
MID FyUom.1363$Jd7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net
Kent Wills
wrote:
>>> You mean all the people LAUGHING at your STUPIDITY is starting to
>>> hurt,
>>>Kunt? Yesterday YOU were claiming that her name is NOT "Kim" and that she
>>>is NOT a female. You said you had PROOF.
>
>> Post the MID and/or Google link to any post where I made such a
>> claim or admit you're constant consumption of alcohol (unless you were
>> lying about that as well) has once again forced you to lie.
>
> Kunt you even TRIED to confront Kim that she isn't KIm and female. YOU
>ARE A POLISHG JOKE, Wills! The folks in AUK are falling on the floor
>splitting their guys LAUGHING at you!
Inability to post the MID and/or Google link acknowledged.
I also accept that you have admitted, by default, that you were
lying.
>
>>>Kunt you have become a
>>>laughingstock. You aren't smart enough to know it.First your BULLSHIT that
>>>I
>>>was kicked out of ASTC
>
>> I made no such claim.
>
> Yeah you DID. Or maybe it was the "OTHER" Kent Wills? Little boy -
>EVERYONE is laughing at you.
I made no such claim. You already admitted, by default, that you
were lying.
>
>>>and then your STUPID STUPID STUPID shit about Kim.
>
>> How is it stupid?
>
> I can't explain it to a stupid Polack who can't understand it. You just
>DENIED you made the claim.
Since I didn't claim to have proof, I denied your LIE that I did.
You could have posted the MID and/or Google link to any post where
I made the claim. Since I did, and you were once again offering proof
that your boozing (unless that was also a lie) forced you to lie.
"I am insane!"
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-team,
posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated claiming that he was found
legally insane.
Kent Wills
When did I claim to have proof? Be specific, unless you'd rather
admit you're lying.
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, or proving he's so
stupid he thinks I'm Asian.
MID:<c6bac3f6-7a0e-4bf8-8ddd-d77bccfc6...@p49g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.legal/msg/395db830731df54a
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott Hanson, wife beater and child abuser: "Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Greg Scott Hanson telling Usenet he's a FOUNDED child abuser.
Message-ID: <35120b16.04011...@posting.google.com>
" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
Path:
news.datemas.de!newsfeed.datemas.de!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!y21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
misc.kids,alt.support.foster-parents,uk.people.parents,alt.support.child-protective-services
With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.
--a true story
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
When have I made such a claim?
Greg stated the information he's posted that is supposed to be
about me is about the other Kent Wills. Outside your drunken stupors,
Greg and I are not the same person.
Greegor
wrote:
LIT > Ken, it's stupid shit because that is all Kent knows
LIT > how to spew. I mean honestly, how can he go
LIT > from claiming I am not Kim/female to claiming
LIT > he made no such claims to most recently,
LIT > admitting he said it but was just going on
LIT > someone else's claim? It just gets curiouser
LIT > and curiouser.
Yes, Kent has made evolving or galloping claims
about several things before.
If he stays true to his pattern soon you will be
accused of mental illness, drug and alcohol use.
Then there's this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
False dilemma
[ Wiki quality concerns snipped ]
The logical fallacy of false dilemma (also called false dichotomy, the
either-or fallacy) involves a situation in which only two alternatives
are considered, when in fact there are other options. Closely related
are failing to consider a range of options and the tendency to think
in extremes, called black-and-white thinking. Strictly speaking, the
prefix "di" in "dilemma" means "two". When a list of more than two
choices is offered, but there are other choices not mentioned, then
the fallacy is called the fallacy of false choice, or the fallacy of
exhaustive hypotheses.
False dilemma can arise intentionally, when fallacy is used in an
attempt to force a choice ("If you are not with us, you are against
us.") But the fallacy can arise simply by accidental omission—possibly
through a form of wishful thinking or ignorance—rather than by
deliberate deception ("I thought we were friends, but all my friends
were at my apartment last night and you weren't there.")
When two alternatives are presented, they are often, though not
always, two extreme points on some spectrum of possibilities. This can
lend credence to the larger argument by giving the impression that the
options are mutually exclusive, even though they need not be.
Furthermore, the options are typically presented as being collectively
exhaustive, in which case the fallacy can be overcome, or at least
weakened, by considering other possibilities, or perhaps by
considering a whole spectrum of possibilities, as in fuzzy logic.
Contents [hide]
1 Examples
1.1 Morton's Fork
1.2 False choice
1.3 Black and white thinking
1.4 Falsum in uno, falsum in omnibus
1.5 There is no alternative
2 See also
3 References
4 External links
[edit] Examples
[edit] Morton's Fork
Very often a Morton's Fork, a choice between two equally unpleasant
options, is a false dilemma. The phrase originates from an argument
for taxing English nobles:
"Either the nobles of this country appear wealthy, in which case they
can be taxed for good; or they appear poor, in which case they are
living frugally and must have immense savings, which can be taxed for
good." [1]
This is a false dilemma, because it fails to allow for the possibility
that some members of the nobility may in fact lack liquid assets.
[edit] False choice
The presentation of a false choice often reflects a deliberate attempt
to eliminate the middle ground on an issue. Eldridge Cleaver used such
a quotation during his 1968 presidential campaign: "You're either part
of the solution or part of the problem." [2]
A common argument against noise pollution laws involves a false
choice. It might be argued that in New York City noise shouldn't be
regulated, because if it were, the city would drastically change in a
negative way. This argument involves assuming that for example: a bar
must be shut down for it to not cause disturbing levels of noise after
midnight. This ignores the fact that the bar could simply lower its
noise levels, and/or install more soundproof structural elements to
keep the noise from excessively transmitting onto others' properties.
[edit] Black and white thinking
A common form of the false dilemma is black-and-white thinking. Many
people routinely engage in black-and-white thinking, an example of
which is feeling boundless optimism when things are going well and
suddenly switching to total despair at the first setback. Another
example is someone who labels other people as all good or all bad.[3]
[edit] Falsum in uno, falsum in omnibus
This Latin phrase means "false in one thing, false in everything", and
it is often used to label someone found to be wrong on one issue to
also be wrong with regard other issues. This is a logical fallacy
because being found incompetent in one respect does not imply that one
is incompetent in all other respects. This is an example of an ad
hominem argument and a special case of the association fallacy.
[edit] There is no alternative
The assertion that there is no alternative is an example of the false
dichotomy taken to its ultimate extreme, in which the options are
reduced to one, the proposal of the speaker. Of course the speaker
does not believe there are no alternatives otherwise they would not
bother to argue the point; rather they oppose the alternatives and
seek to dismiss them by denying their existence.
"This was the mantra chanted by 'dries' during the prime ministerial
reign of Margaret Thatcher, by which they demonstrated their belief
that free-market capitalism was the only possible economic theory. The
phrase was repeated so often amongst them that it was shortened to
TINA. The hard-right Thatcherites called themselves 'dries' to
demonstrate their opposition to the 'wets', i.e. the One-Nation Tories
whom Thatcher despised."[citation needed]
[edit] See also
The length of this "see also" section may adversely affect
readability. Please ensure that the "see also" links are not mentioned
elsewhere in the article, are not red links, are as few in number and
as relevant as possible.
Thinking portal
Bivalence
Correlative-based fallacies
Degrees of truth
Fuzzy logic
Law of excluded middle
Nondualism
Nolan chart
Half-truths
Multivalued logic
Perspectivism
Principle of bivalence
Rogerian argument
Sorites paradox
[edit] References
^ Ivor H. Evans, editor, Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase & Fable, 14th
edition, Harper & Row, 1989, ISBN 0-06-016200-7,
^ Yale Book of Quotations [1] p158
^ AJ Giannini. Use of fiction in therapy. Psychiatric Times. 18(7):
56-57,2001.
[edit] External links
The Black-or-White Fallacy entry in The Fallacy Files
krp
>>> KBW > I made no such claim.
I know. It was that "OTHER" Kent Wills, not "?OUR" Kent Wills.
>>> KRP > I can't explain it to a stupid Polack who
>>> KRP > can't understand it. You just
>>> KRP > DENIED you made the claim.
>>> Of course!
>>> Kent argues about it and when it's proven to
>>> be BS he just denies he made the claim.
>>That is when he isn't claiming it is the OTHER Kent Wills.
> When have I made such a claim?
Which Kent Wills are you? Are you "OUR" Kent Wills, or are you that
"OTHER" Kent Wills? Please PROVE which Kent Wills you are.
krp
>>>> You mean all the people LAUGHING at your STUPIDITY is starting to
>>>> hurt,
>>>> Kunt? Yesterday YOU were claiming that her name is NOT "Kim" and that
>>>> she
>>>> is NOT a female. You said you had PROOF.
>>> Post the MID and/or Google link to any post where I made such a
>>> claim or admit you're constant consumption of alcohol (unless you were
>>> lying about that as well) has once again forced you to lie.
Oh, it was probably the "OTHER" Kent Wills who posted it. "OUR" Kent
Wills would NEVER LIE!
>>>> Kunt you even TRIED to confront Kim that she isn't KIm and female.
>>>> YOU
>>ARE A POLISH JOKE, Wills! The folks in AUK are falling on the floor
>> splitting their guts LAUGHING at you!
> Inability to post the MID and/or Google link acknowledged.
> I also accept that you have admitted, by default, that you were lying.
Are you "OUR" Kent Wills, or that "OTHER" Kent Wills?
krp
>
>>> Google, the service from which he posts, snipped it. And he only
>>> posted it the one time. It remained snipped in replies, but unless
>>> your legally insane (unless you lied) mind is so far gone there is no
>>> hope, even you can't see quotes of an author as a post from said
>>> author.
>>
>> Funny Danny must have a SPECIAL GOOGLE service, everyone else seem s
>> to
>>quote the whole link and they also use GOOGLE..
>
> Have you ever read Greg's posts? He has the same problem.
> How is it that you've never seen reason to whine about his
> inability to post full links with Google?
> Did I just expose ANOTHER of your double standards?
No the "OTHER" Kent WIll explained all of that.
>>Of course, being a STUPID POLACK
THAT woulkd be "OUR" Kent Wills. Are you the "OTHER" Kent Wills?
>>you miss the part where he TRIES to argue that the link doesn't prove
>>that I wasn't BOOTED from ASTC.
> In fact, it doesn't.
Now THAT is "OUR" Kent Wills. Never allowing REALITY to change his mind.
> Maybe you see something I don't. If so, please point out where
> it explains the reason you weren't a member. I freely admit I don't
> see what you claim is there.
This must be the "OTHER" Kent Wills.
>> Your FACT CLAIMS that I was kicked out of ASTC for starters. Then the
>>rest of your delusional BULLSHIT, Kunt.
> I've never made such a claim. Asking if you were unable to pay
> the dues on time is not making the fact claim that you were booted.
> What is the SPECIFIC reason you lie about such things?
Maybe I am the "OTHER" Ken Pangborn?
Kent WIlls and his Pinocchio Syndrome!
>>>>"LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE - NOSE AS LONG AS A TELEPHONE WIRE!" Applies to
>>>>you guys.
>>>>AGAIN I have taken you people to the MAT and beat
>>>>the shit out of you. I played out the game with you IDIOTS just to see
>>>>how
>>>>HUGE your lies would grow to be. And the old saying:
>>
>>> So you LIED when you claimed you left the group and joined
>>> another.
>>
>> It is called "ROPE A DOPE" you MORON.
> You may call your pathological lying any term that makes life a
> bit easier for you. If you wish to call your constant lying rope a
> dope, that's fine. It's still pathological lying on your part.
Just fun watching you STALKERS trip all over yourself. Of course we all
KNOW it really was that "OTHER" Kent Wills!
>>Playing along just far enough to
>>see how FAR you were willing to go. And you AGAIN fell for it HOOK - LINE-
>>and SINKER there fishie!
> How so? I asked a question. One you've never answered.
You made a CLAIM OF FACT! You guys went so far as to CLAIM the REASON
you say I was "KICKED OUT" of ASTC. But maybe that was the "OTHER" Kent
Wills.
>>> Even if we pretend the ASTC would tell me the reason for your not
>>> being listed, you lack the importance to motivate me to ask. It's
>>> enough that your RUNNING from my question supports, though does not
>>> prove, the idea that you couldn't afford to pay on time.
>> Running from WHAT question pussycat?
> Where you unable to pay the dues on time, just like last year?
More fact claims from the "OTHER" Kent Wills.
> BTW, I'm not gay.
Sure you are. Moore says you give the best blow jobs in the country. But
maybe he means the "OTHER" Kent Wills.
> Visit a local gay bar, if there are any.
Why? Is SUNDAY your day for cruising? Or is it the "THER" Kent Wills
turn?
Kent Wills
<lostintran...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
>> >>and then your STUPID STUPID STUPID shit about Kim.
>> > ïŋ― ïŋ―How is it stupid?
>>
>> ïŋ― ïŋ― I can't explain it to a stupid Polack who can't understand it. You just
>> DENIED you made the claim.
>
>Ken, it's stupid shit because that is all Kent knows how to spew. I
>mean honestly, how can he go from claiming I am not Kim/female to
>claiming he made no such claims to most recently, admitting he said it
>but was just going on someone else's claim? It just gets curiouser
>and curiouser.
You stated I claimed that you are not LIT. I've never made such a
claim, directly or through implication. I did ask you to prove your
claim. In true Gregborn Logicïŋ―, you RAN from the request.
In a futile effort to distract from the truth that you lied (had
you made a mistake, or I misunderstood your intended meaning, you
would have stated so) you try and distract.
I doubt anyone is falling for it, but it's possible. Pangborn has
presented evidence that he believes your lie. But then, you proved
long ago how easy it is to con Pangborn.
--
"Kent"
Kent Wills
I wasn't aware there was more than one of you.
Oh wait, you're just exposing your dishonesty some more.
--
"Kent"
Kent Wills
<lostintran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>and then your STUPID STUPID STUPID shit about Kim.
>> > =A0 =A0How is it stupid?
>>
>> =A0 =A0 I can't explain it to a stupid Polack who can't understand it. Yo=
>u just
>> DENIED you made the claim.
>
>Kent you are the one that said you and Greg knew for a long time that
>I was not female nor was my name Kim.
I gave no indication of time.
I did state that Greg also knows.
>Why are you backpedalling and
>denying you said that?
I've never denied that I wrote that Greg also knows. If I did,
you'll be able to offer something in the way of evidence. I suggest
the MID and/or Google link to such a post.
Is there a specific reason you're exposing your dishonesty here?
>Why are you also saying now that although you
>DID say that, you were just repeating someone else's claims?
I stated, in my reply to you, that the information came from
another.
Here is the verbatim quote from Message-ID:
<pod5e5pjcfk86tm19...@4ax.com>
>I do not know where you got your information, Kent.
From a source that has been right far more often than wrong.
It's certainly possible said source is wrong in this instance, of
course.
Again I ask, is there a specific reason you're exposing your
dishonesty here? I would also like to know why you chose to be
dishonest about that which is so easy to prove. Would you tell me
your motivation for that as well?
>Are you
>confused and off your meds today ? Or is this your typical way of
>thinking?
I often use truth and logic. This is the norm for me.
It's sad that you can't *honestly* make the same claim.
You're making use of what I call Gregborn Logic�. It's never
worked with Greg or Ken. There's no reason to presume you'll have any
more luck than they have, but if you want to continue trying, please
do. They've never managed to cause me any harm. I don't see you
doing so either.
--
"Kent"
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:99v6e5tkujblpidbl...@4ax.com...
>
>>>> KBW > I made no such claim.
>
> I know. It was that "OTHER" Kent Wills, not "?OUR" Kent Wills.
>
>>>> KRP > I can't explain it to a stupid Polack who
>>>> KRP > can't understand it. You just
>>>> KRP > DENIED you made the claim.
>
>>>> Of course!
>>>> Kent argues about it and when it's proven to
>>>> be BS he just denies he made the claim.
>
>>>That is when he isn't claiming it is the OTHER Kent Wills.
>
>> When have I made such a claim?
>
>
> Which Kent Wills are you?
None.
You acknowledged my name in real life isn't Kent.
>Are you "OUR" Kent Wills, or are you that
>"OTHER" Kent Wills? Please PROVE which Kent Wills you are.
You already admitted and acknowledged my nym, Kent Wills, is not
my name in real life.
Are you telling the readers you were LYING when you stated that
in the thread about your listserv? If you are, would you please
explain why you would lie about such a thing?
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 24, 4:52 pm, lostintranslation <lostintranslation...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>LIT > Ken, it's stupid shit because that is all Kent knows
>LIT > how to spew. I mean honestly, how can he go
>LIT > from claiming I am not Kim/female to claiming
>LIT > he made no such claims to most recently,
>LIT > admitting he said it but was just going on
>LIT > someone else's claim? It just gets curiouser
>LIT > and curiouser.
>
>Yes, Kent has made evolving or galloping claims
>about several things before.
Such as?
Do be specific and prepared to have any lies exposed.
>
>If he stays true to his pattern soon you will be
>accused of mental illness, drug and alcohol use.
I've seen nothing from LIT to describe anything you claim. Perhaps
you see something I don't?
As far as I know, s/he's never admitted to using drugs (illegal
ones, I should add) or being an alcoholic. If s/he were to do so, and
s/he continues to refuse proper treatment, I would likely use it in
discussions.
If s/he makes the claim yet points out s/he hasn't partaken of
either or both in X years, I would do all I can to encourage continued
sobriety.
I expect you'll cry, as you often do, about my presenting the
truth, and in doing so further destroying your lies. I'm used to it.
I expect most everyone, if not everyone, reading is.
>
>Then there's this:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
>
[snip of Greg's PROVING, again, he holds the delusion he's not bound
by any laws. Copyright in this case.]
That is a GREAT description of your behavior on Usenet, Greg.
I know you wanted it to be about me, but since I point out that if
you can prove your claims, it would be a win for you, well, you fail
once again. You should be quite used to it.
Perhaps you mean when I expose your posting contradictory claims.
When you do that, you only allow yourself two options. You lied in
claim one or you lied in claim two.
If you had the ability to be honest, you wouldn't get yourself
caught lying as you so often do.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:n2v6e5pofipe3eam2...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> Google, the service from which he posts, snipped it. And he only
>>>> posted it the one time. It remained snipped in replies, but unless
>>>> your legally insane (unless you lied) mind is so far gone there is no
>>>> hope, even you can't see quotes of an author as a post from said
>>>> author.
>>>
>>> Funny Danny must have a SPECIAL GOOGLE service, everyone else seem s
>>> to
>>>quote the whole link and they also use GOOGLE..
>>
>> Have you ever read Greg's posts? He has the same problem.
>> How is it that you've never seen reason to whine about his
>> inability to post full links with Google?
>> Did I just expose ANOTHER of your double standards?
>
> No the "OTHER" Kent WIll explained all of that.
Does he post to Usenet? In reality, and not your drunken
delusions, I mean.
>
>
>>>Of course, being a STUPID POLACK
>
> THAT woulkd be "OUR" Kent Wills.
That would be your well established and proved bigotry.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/race.html contains a very small
sample of the available proof, said proof consisting of your own
writings, that you're a bigot, and proud of it.
>Are you the "OTHER" Kent Wills?
As you stated in the thread about your listserv, my name in real
life isn't Kent.
>
>>>you miss the part where he TRIES to argue that the link doesn't prove
>>>that I wasn't BOOTED from ASTC.
>
>> In fact, it doesn't.
>
> Now THAT is "OUR" Kent Wills. Never allowing REALITY to change his mind.
It doesn't. It proves you are a member. There is nothing that
proves your claim as to why you weren't for a while.
>
>> Maybe you see something I don't. If so, please point out where
>> it explains the reason you weren't a member. I freely admit I don't
>> see what you claim is there.
>
> This must be the "OTHER" Kent Wills.
You really do need professional mental health care.
>
>>> Your FACT CLAIMS that I was kicked out of ASTC for starters. Then the
>>>rest of your delusional BULLSHIT, Kunt.
>
>> I've never made such a claim. Asking if you were unable to pay
>> the dues on time is not making the fact claim that you were booted.
>> What is the SPECIFIC reason you lie about such things?
>
> Maybe I am the "OTHER" Ken Pangborn?
>
Experiencing Dissociateive Identity Disorder?
>
>Kent WIlls and his Pinocchio Syndrome!
>
Projection is a bad thing, Ken. You should cease.
>>>>>"LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE - NOSE AS LONG AS A TELEPHONE WIRE!" Applies to
>>>>>you guys.
>
>>>>>AGAIN I have taken you people to the MAT and beat
>>>>>the shit out of you. I played out the game with you IDIOTS just to see
>>>>>how
>>>>>HUGE your lies would grow to be. And the old saying:
>>>
>>>> So you LIED when you claimed you left the group and joined
>>>> another.
>>>
>>> It is called "ROPE A DOPE" you MORON.
>
>> You may call your pathological lying any term that makes life a
>> bit easier for you. If you wish to call your constant lying rope a
>> dope, that's fine. It's still pathological lying on your part.
>
> Just fun watching you STALKERS trip all over yourself. Of course we all
>KNOW it really was that "OTHER" Kent Wills!
Whereas no one named or nymed Kent Wills made the claim, you
additional lie fails.
>
>>>Playing along just far enough to
>>>see how FAR you were willing to go. And you AGAIN fell for it HOOK - LINE-
>>>and SINKER there fishie!
>
>> How so? I asked a question. One you've never answered.
>
> You made a CLAIM OF FACT!
I did no such thing.
>You guys went so far as to CLAIM the REASON
>you say I was "KICKED OUT" of ASTC. But maybe that was the "OTHER" Kent
>Wills.
I've never offered a reason. I asked if you were unable to pay
the dues.
Maybe you were so drunk you misunderstood?
>
>>>> Even if we pretend the ASTC would tell me the reason for your not
>>>> being listed, you lack the importance to motivate me to ask. It's
>>>> enough that your RUNNING from my question supports, though does not
>>>> prove, the idea that you couldn't afford to pay on time.
>
>>> Running from WHAT question pussycat?
>
>> Where you unable to pay the dues on time, just like last year?
>
> More fact claims from the "OTHER" Kent Wills.
That's the question I asked.
Outside of your drunken stupors, a question is not a fact claim.
>
>> BTW, I'm not gay.
>
> Sure you are. Moore says you give the best blow jobs in the country. But
>maybe he means the "OTHER" Kent Wills.
You may wish I were gay. That you have lustful desires for me,
and other men, is well established by your own posts. Still, you must
accept that I'm not gay.
If I were, I would hope I would have better taste than to find
you a catch.
>
>> Visit a local gay bar, if there are any.
>
> Why? Is SUNDAY your day for cruising? Or is it the "THER" Kent Wills
>turn?
You can desire me as much as you want/need. So long as you
realize your fantasies about me will never become reality, well, it's
weird, but it does no harm.
I do have to wonder why you continue to express your sexual
interest in me, since you're well aware that even if I were gay, you
would hold no interest for me.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>THE "OTHER" KENT WILLS
How many people post with the nym Kent Wills in your drunken
fantasy world?
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:a7v6e55j321ck79r1...@4ax.com...
>
>>>>> You mean all the people LAUGHING at your STUPIDITY is starting to
>>>>> hurt,
>
>>>>> Kunt? Yesterday YOU were claiming that her name is NOT "Kim" and that
>>>>> she
>>>>> is NOT a female. You said you had PROOF.
>
>>>> Post the MID and/or Google link to any post where I made such a
>>>> claim or admit you're constant consumption of alcohol (unless you were
>>>> lying about that as well) has once again forced you to lie.
>
> Oh, it was probably the "OTHER" Kent Wills who posted it. "OUR" Kent
>Wills would NEVER LIE!
You already admitted you lied.
>
>>>>> Kunt you even TRIED to confront Kim that she isn't KIm and female.
>>>>> YOU
>>>ARE A POLISH JOKE, Wills! The folks in AUK are falling on the floor
>>> splitting their guts LAUGHING at you!
>
>> Inability to post the MID and/or Google link acknowledged.
>> I also accept that you have admitted, by default, that you were lying.
>
> Are you "OUR" Kent Wills, or that "OTHER" Kent Wills?
>
Again I accept your admission that you were lying.
I doubt anyone is surprised that you lied. They may be surprised
that you've chosen to admit it, even if by default. In the past
you've always opted to RUN when asked to either prove your claim or
admit you lied.
krp
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:21:58 -0400, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>
> How many people post with the nym Kent Wills in your drunken
> fantasy world?
>
Just "OUR" Kent Wills and the "OTHER" Kent Wills.
krp
>> No the "OTHER" Kent Wills explained all of that.
> Does he post to Usenet?
Sometimes, whenever something was said by the "OTHER" Kent WIlls that
"OU" Kent Wills tells us HE never said. So it MUST be the "OTHER" Kent WIlls
saying those things.
>>Are you the "OTHER" Kent Wills?
> As you stated in the thread about your listserv, my name in real
> life isn't Kent.
No *I* didn't say that, the "OTHER" Kent Wills claims his name isn't really
"KENT WILLS."
krp
> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:52:56 -0700 (PDT), lostintranslation
> <lostintran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> >>and then your STUPID STUPID STUPID shit about Kim.
>>>
>>> I can't explain it to a stupid Polack who can't understand it. You just
>>> DENIED you made the claim.
>>
>>Ken, it's stupid shit because that is all Kent knows how to spew. I
>>mean honestly, how can he go from claiming I am not Kim/female to
>>claiming he made no such claims to most recently, admitting he said it
>>but was just going on someone else's claim? It just gets curiouser
>>and curiouser.
>
> You stated I claimed that you are not LIT. I've never made such a
> claim, directly or through implication.
No we KNOW that - it was "OUR" Kent Wills the pathological LIAR that
said that.
krp
Oh there are MANY LITs. YOU just discovered the tip of the iceberg. She's
the "OTHER" LIT.
krp
> Yes, and I think you're hot!
Kent Wills
wrote:
While possible, I've seen nothing to support your claim.
Please offer something in the way of evidence, unless you are
letting the readers know you were being honest when you claimed you
were found legally insane.
>YOU just discovered the tip of the iceberg. She's
>the "OTHER" LIT.
>
How long have you held the delusion there is more than one person
posting with the nym lostintranslation?
Serious question.
Kent Wills
wrote:
You really need to get the professional mental health care you've
once again PROVE you need.
Unless, of course, you're simply lying.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>THE "OTHER" KENT WILLS
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4o28e59qh5kr5mouo...@4ax.com...
>
>>> No the "OTHER" Kent Wills explained all of that.
>
>> Does he post to Usenet?
>
> Sometimes, whenever something was said by the "OTHER" Kent WIlls that
>"OU" Kent Wills tells us HE never said. So it MUST be the "OTHER" Kent WIlls
>saying those things.
When have I ever denied I said anything I've ever said, or even
wrote?
Be specific and prepared to have any and all lies exposed.
>
>>>Are you the "OTHER" Kent Wills?
>
>> As you stated in the thread about your listserv, my name in real
>> life isn't Kent.
>
>No *I* didn't say that, the "OTHER" Kent Wills claims his name isn't really
>"KENT WILLS."
I don't know if you SAID it or not. Since I can't hear you when
you speak, I can't know.
I do know you wrote it. You said it meant I had been lying about
my name on Usenet, even though I've been very open about the truth
that my name in real life isn't Kent.
You may lie as often as your mind needs/wants. The truth will
remain the truth.
"CPS cases are legal matters. Offering advice IS practicing law
without a license."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn admitting he practices law without a
license in misc.legal
Kent Wills
wrote:
>krp, ye blubbery foolish lout, a most pathetical nit, ye yearned:
>
>> Yes, and I think you're hot!
Not the worse forgery of Pangborn I've seen, but you could have
done better.
--
"Kent"
krp
And you probably HAVE!
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
Why would I want or need to? You offer the proof that you're a
fraud and con man without any help from anyone else.
Greegor
KBW > Why would I want or need to?
KBW > You offer the proof that you're a
KBW > fraud and con man without any
KBW > help from anyone else.
Wait! You're the OTHER Kent Wills again
aren't you!
You're not the famous one who really
IS an ex-con con artist and constant liar?
Who are you and what have you done
with ""OUR"" Kent Bradley Wills?
Ours wouldn't dare call somebody
else a con artist! LOL
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 25, 2:38�pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>KBW > Why would I want or need to?
>KBW >�You offer the proof that you're a
>KBW > fraud and con man without any
>KBW > help from anyone else.
>
>Wait! You're the OTHER Kent Wills again
>aren't you!
>
I'm the same one who has been posting with the nym Kent Wills
since 1993.
How many people does your drug induced mental defects command you
believe post with the nym? I know of only one other, Kevin. He did
so in one post to help prove the nym being used isn't going to
instantly mean that's the person's real name.
So how many people, Greg? Do TRY to be honest, as impossible as
such an act is for you.
krp
On Oct 25, 2:38 pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
KBW > Why would I want or need to?
KBW > You offer the proof that you're a
KBW > fraud and con man without any
KBW > help from anyone else.
GH> Wait! You're the OTHER Kent Wills again
GH> aren't you!
GH> You're not the famous one who really
GH> IS an ex-con con artist and constant liar?
I am sorry, Greg. "OUR Kent Wills is busy in the GARAGE!
krp
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:32:24 -0700 (PDT), Greegor
> <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Oct 25, 2:38 pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>KBW > Why would I want or need to?
>>KBW > You offer the proof that you're a
>>KBW > fraud and con man without any
>>KBW > help from anyone else.
>>
>>Wait! You're the OTHER Kent Wills again
>>aren't you!
>>
>
> I'm the same one who has been posting with the nym Kent Wills
> since 1993.
No, "OUR" Kent Wills is in the GARAGE!
Kent Wills
wrote:
I was in the machine shed earlier today, but since I didn't leave
the property, I had no cause to enter either of the garages.
If you're going to post a lie, as you surely knew your post was
and is, do a little checking first. You can avoid having your lies
exposed so quickly.
womanGoddess
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:2eb4d8df-bea1-41d0...@a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>
> Oh Danny why do you guys NEVER check your FACTS? Try looking yourself
> instead of just BRAIN DEAD accepting the word of the Moore-on with his dick
> in your ear.
>
> You are such an IDIOT!!
>
> http://www.astcweb.org/public/consultants/list.cfm?dir_last=pangborn&...
Kennie's homoerotic fantasies noted.
Kennie, why for a supposedly straight guy do you talk about dicks a
lot?
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
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