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Bob & KC Molnar

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Nov 26, 2001, 10:21:38 PM11/26/01
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A very vague and misunderstood effect of celiac appears to be various levels
of depression especially when coupled with mid-life crisis. A variety of
inconclusive opinions more than suggest mental depression is a seriously
overlooked problem in dealing with celiac diagnosis and treatment. My wife
is experiencing a depression which has lasted about 1.5 yrs now and after
being gluten free for about 6 weeks felt better then went of the diet and
without serious physical repercussions, has been slipping once again into
this depressive state.
Anyone have any feedback or personal experiences with this?

Bob


Annemarie

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Nov 26, 2001, 10:55:54 PM11/26/01
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"Bob & KC Molnar" <find...@globalserve.net> wrote in message
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You bet, before being gluten free, I was a little low, lacking energy, but
not really depressed. Does that make sense. But since being gluten free,
if I make a mistake it causes awful depression. Once I went to a Thai
restaurant, and I think because of language difficulties got some gluten,
probably in fish sauce or similar ingredient. I had the immediate
indigestion, followed by severe pain, etc etc.
The next day though I really really felt suicidal, I really just wanted to
curl up into a little ball and die. I knew it was just a gluten reaction
and that was enough to pull me though to the next day when I felt a lot
better. Takes a few days to fully recover though. I am very very careful
not to make mistakes now.
My niece lost two months of her live to it. She was living in Sydney and
can really not remember what she was doing all that time. Sleeping mostly
she thinks, the blood runs cold at the thought of what could have happened
to her.
When she came back to NZ and the gastroenterologist put her on a gluten
challenge, she was apparently hell to live with, completely obnocious and
very down. As soon as she went gluten free she said a bit tongue in cheek
to her parents. You two seem much nicer today.
So yes I do believe it has a profound affect on the mind. My husband once
found a site, I've lost it :o( about how there are huge numbers of nerve
endings in the gut, and they are close to the backbone and therefore
intestinal health etc has a physical affect on the mind, and therefore the
mood.
Hope this helps
A


Mark

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Dec 5, 2001, 3:23:32 AM12/5/01
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Dr. Fassan (sp?) covered this topic in an interview. Apparently what
leaks from the gut enters the blood stream & goes straight to the brain
which impairs function. I've been experimenting with myself & I feel
much better when I don't eat gluten-based food. For awhile I was eating
soy-burgers & most of them have a high-gluten content as a binder. I got
practically bed-ridden when I was eating them. I'm slowly weaning
myself off of wheat but it's tough when you've spent your whole life
eating it & so many foods have gluten in them. I don't eat any dairy
products anymore so also having to cut out gluten products means that
I'll be doing alot more cooking for myself. I'm also cutting down on all
processed because you really never know what's the ingredients are. MSG
is used in most of them & it goes under different names.
Mark


Lisa Ivory

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Dec 6, 2001, 8:11:38 PM12/6/01
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I agree with you that it's incredibly difficult. I was on a gluten-free
eating regemine and felt wonderful, but slipped... into the old, easy
habits. I am now attempting to go back on it.

I wish you all the best *S*

Lisa


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MagsSchwa

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Dec 13, 2001, 9:11:05 PM12/13/01
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My gluten sensitivity became obvious when I was a teen, but I didn't know that
at the time. Just knew that some grains messed me up: rye, wheat, oats. It
wasn't until my 30's when my older brother was diagnosed with full blown Celiac
that I learned all the names of gluten.

About 5 years ago I learned about the milk protein, casein, being processed in
a similar manner in the body. It took me nearly 3 years to go gluten and milk
free (GFCF). After I learned what I learned by being GFCF free, I would have
gone through the hassle to do it earlier!

One of the main sideaffects of eating casein when your body can't handle it, is
mind altering. It seems that the protein is not fully processed into amino
acids, and enters the bloodstream as a peptide. The peptide acts in the brain
like an opiate. The GFCFKids list has many stories of the Jekyll and Hyde
behavior of their children.

Because I did not have any major off-the-wall behavior, I was surprised at my
reaction. I was without milk or gluten for a month when I made homemade
macaroni and cheese. It was so cheesy and creamy! I ate so much! After all, a
gluten problem for me is a messed up abdomin, it was worth it.

24 hours later I had a major panic attack! I melted down for 4 days. There was
no reason for the panic. Hmm. I waited two weeks, and had a small something. 24
hours later I had warnings of an attack. A few more weeks, and another test. A
panic warning.

Guess who has been vigilant! I am also diagnosed BiPolar II, a mild form of
bipolar. Since I have been as GFCF as possible, I have been calmer and
smoother. I still get panic, and I still have the mood swings, but everything
is turned down several notches.

For me, the obvious reaction to a gluten infraction is tummy troubles and a
milk infraction is a cotton head, right in the middle of my forehead and behind
my eyes. The time lost to a shut down head is unacceptable, so I avoid it.


Margaret S.

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Jul 28, 2008, 2:09:53 PM7/28/08
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Yes I know exactly how you feel. I'm just learning that removing
gluten is starting to remove the cotton from behind my eyes. When I
accidentily eat gluten, i slump into a huge depression knowing that I
won't having energy for another week. Extremely unacceptable!

Janice

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Aug 1, 2008, 10:00:34 PM8/1/08
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I hope you didn't read the date of the posting you were answering...LOL

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Kofi

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Aug 5, 2008, 12:57:32 AM8/5/08
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It's an old posting, but there's some interesting new research that
might tie the depression angle together with the opiates. Some
antidepressents help nerve cells maintain their
norepinephrine/adrenaline levels and low-dose naltrexone blocks
withdrawal-induced norepinephrine efflux in the forebrain of
morphine-addicted rats, attenuating noradrenergic hyperactivity [PMID
18367303].
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