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callalily

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Jan 24, 2007, 6:52:46 PM1/24/07
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Worried about prostate cancer? Tomato-broccoli combo shown to be
effective

Shrinking Prostate Cancer
A new University of Illinois study shows that tomatoes and broccoli -
two vegetables known for their cancer-fighting qualities - are better
at shrinking prostate tumors when both are part of the daily diet than
when they're eaten alone.

"When tomatoes and broccoli are eaten together, we see an additive
effect. We think it's because different bioactive compounds in each
food work on different anti-cancer pathways," said University of
Illinois food science and human nutrition professor John Erdman.

In a study published in the January 15 issue of Cancer Research, Erdman
and doctoral candidate Kirstie Canene-Adams fed a diet containing 10
percent tomato powder and 10 percent broccoli powder to laboratory rats
that had been implanted with prostate cancer cells. The powders were
made from whole foods so the effects of eating the entire vegetable
could be compared with consuming individual parts of them as a
nutritional supplement.

Other rats in the study received either tomato or broccoli powder
alone; or a supplemental dose of lycopene, the red pigment in tomatoes
thought to be the effective cancer-preventive agent in tomatoes; or
finasteride, a drug prescribed for men with enlarged prostates. Another
group of rats was castrated.

After 22 weeks, the tumors were weighed. The tomato/broccoli combo
outperformed all other diets in shrinking prostate tumors. Biopsies of
tumors were evaluated at The Ohio State University, confirming that
tumor cells in the tomato/broccoli-fed rats were not proliferating as
rapidly. The only treatment that approached the tomato/broccoli diet's
level of effectiveness was castration, said Erdman.

"As nutritionists, it was very exciting to compare this drastic surgery
to diet and see that tumor reduction was similar. Older men with
slow-growing prostate cancer who have chosen watchful waiting over
chemotherapy and radiation should seriously consider altering their
diets to include more tomatoes and broccoli," said Canene-Adams.

How much tomato and broccoli should a 55-year-old man concerned about
prostate health eat in order to receive these benefits? The scientists
did some conversions.

"To get these effects, men should consume daily 1.4 cups of raw
broccoli and 2.5 cups of fresh tomato, or 1 cup of tomato sauce, or Ѕ
cup of tomato paste. I think it's very doable for a man to eat a cup
and a half of broccoli per day or put broccoli on a pizza with Ѕ cup
of tomato paste," said Canene-Adams.

Erdman said the study showed that eating whole foods is better than
consuming their components. "It's better to eat tomatoes than to take a
lycopene supplement," he said. "And cooked tomatoes may be better than
raw tomatoes. Chopping and heating make the cancer-fighting
constituents of tomatoes and broccoli more bioavailable."

"When tomatoes are cooked, for example, the water is removed and the
healthful parts become more concentrated. That doesn't mean you should
stay away from fresh produce. The lesson here, I think, is to eat a
variety of fruits and vegetables prepared in a variety of ways,"
Canene-Adams added.

Another recent Erdman study shows that rats fed the tomato carotenoids
phytofluene, lycopene, or a diet containing 10 percent tomato powder
for four days had significantly reduced testosterone levels. "Most
prostate cancer is hormone-sensitive, and reducing testosterone levels
may be another way that eating tomatoes reduces prostate cancer
growth," Erdman said.

Erdman said the tomato/broccoli study was a natural to be carried out
at Illinois because of the pioneering work his colleague Elizabeth
Jeffery has done on the cancer-fighting agents found in broccoli and
other cruciferous vegetables. Jeffery has discovered sulfur compounds
in broccoli that enhance certain enzymes in the human body, which then
act to degrade carcinogens.

"For ten years, I've been learning how the phytochemicals in tomatoes
affect the progression of prostate cancer. Meanwhile Dr. Jeffery has
been investigating the ways in which the healthful effects of broccoli
are produced. Teaming up to see how these vegetables worked together
just made sense and certainly contributes to our knowledge about
dietary treatments for prostate cancer," said Erdman.

jeff_B

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Jan 26, 2007, 11:08:04 AM1/26/07
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On Jan 24, 6:52 pm, "callalily" <lfc...@aol.com> wrote:
> Worried aboutprostatecancer? Tomato-broccoli combo shown to be


> effective
>
> ShrinkingProstateCancer
> A new University of Illinois study shows that tomatoes and broccoli -

> two vegetables known for theircancer-fighting qualities - are better
> at shrinkingprostatetumors when both are part of the daily diet than


> when they're eaten alone.
>
> "When tomatoes and broccoli are eaten together, we see an additive
> effect. We think it's because different bioactive compounds in each

> food work on different anti-cancerpathways," said University of


> Illinois food science and human nutrition professor John Erdman.
>

> In a study published in the January 15 issue ofCancerResearch, Erdman


> and doctoral candidate Kirstie Canene-Adams fed a diet containing 10
> percent tomato powder and 10 percent broccoli powder to laboratory rats

> that had been implanted withprostatecancercells. The powders were


> made from whole foods so the effects of eating the entire vegetable
> could be compared with consuming individual parts of them as a
> nutritional supplement.
>
> Other rats in the study received either tomato or broccoli powder
> alone; or a supplemental dose of lycopene, the red pigment in tomatoes

> thought to be the effectivecancer-preventive agent in tomatoes; or


> finasteride, a drug prescribed for men with enlarged prostates. Another
> group of rats was castrated.
>
> After 22 weeks, the tumors were weighed. The tomato/broccoli combo

> outperformed all other diets in shrinkingprostatetumors. Biopsies of


> tumors were evaluated at The Ohio State University, confirming that
> tumor cells in the tomato/broccoli-fed rats were not proliferating as
> rapidly. The only treatment that approached the tomato/broccoli diet's
> level of effectiveness was castration, said Erdman.
>
> "As nutritionists, it was very exciting to compare this drastic surgery
> to diet and see that tumor reduction was similar. Older men with

> slow-growingprostatecancerwho have chosen watchful waiting over


> chemotherapy and radiation should seriously consider altering their
> diets to include more tomatoes and broccoli," said Canene-Adams.
>

> How much tomato and broccoli should a 55-year-old man concerned aboutprostatehealth eat in order to receive these benefits? The scientists


> did some conversions.
>
> "To get these effects, men should consume daily 1.4 cups of raw
> broccoli and 2.5 cups of fresh tomato, or 1 cup of tomato sauce, or Ѕ
> cup of tomato paste. I think it's very doable for a man to eat a cup
> and a half of broccoli per day or put broccoli on a pizza with Ѕ cup
> of tomato paste," said Canene-Adams.
>
> Erdman said the study showed that eating whole foods is better than
> consuming their components. "It's better to eat tomatoes than to take a
> lycopene supplement," he said. "And cooked tomatoes may be better than
> raw tomatoes. Chopping and heating make thecancer-fighting
> constituents of tomatoes and broccoli more bioavailable."
>
> "When tomatoes are cooked, for example, the water is removed and the
> healthful parts become more concentrated. That doesn't mean you should
> stay away from fresh produce. The lesson here, I think, is to eat a
> variety of fruits and vegetables prepared in a variety of ways,"
> Canene-Adams added.
>
> Another recent Erdman study shows that rats fed the tomato carotenoids
> phytofluene, lycopene, or a diet containing 10 percent tomato powder

> for four days had significantly reduced testosterone levels. "Mostprostatecanceris hormone-sensitive, and reducing testosterone levels


> may be another way that eating tomatoes reducesprostatecancer
> growth," Erdman said.
>
> Erdman said the tomato/broccoli study was a natural to be carried out
> at Illinois because of the pioneering work his colleague Elizabeth

> Jeffery has done on thecancer-fighting agents found in broccoli and


> other cruciferous vegetables. Jeffery has discovered sulfur compounds
> in broccoli that enhance certain enzymes in the human body, which then
> act to degrade carcinogens.
>
> "For ten years, I've been learning how the phytochemicals in tomatoes

> affect the progression ofprostatecancer. Meanwhile Dr. Jeffery has


> been investigating the ways in which the healthful effects of broccoli
> are produced. Teaming up to see how these vegetables worked together
> just made sense and certainly contributes to our knowledge about
> dietary treatments forprostatecancer," said Erdman.

I'v been taking 1/3 cup dryroasted peanuts (unsalted and based on 165
lbs of body weight) 2 hours before bedtime for 3 months with dramatic
(almost immediate) results....no waking up for bladder runs, no
disrupted flow in am. When I have on occassion forgotten to take the
nuts, the old pattern returned immediately.....(I've adjusted the 180
calories within my regular diet of food, it's well worth giving up
something else for uninterupted sleep) Something in the peanuts is
affecting the prostate!!

3Putt from South Carolina

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Jan 26, 2007, 6:30:04 PM1/26/07
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"jeff_B" <jeff...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169827684.5...@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> broccoli and 2.5 cups of fresh tomato, or 1 cup of tomato sauce, or Š.


> cup of tomato paste. I think it's very doable for a man to eat a cup

> and a half of broccoli per day or put broccoli on a pizza with Š. cup

The tomato theory has been around for years. I use to eat one 8oz can of
diced tomato 3-4 times weekly. I took saw palmetto for years. I believe I
read a similar item that said just tomato alone daily would shrink the
prostate 40%. It's just hard to fathom, digest, or whatever. Seems new
articles come out weekly now. But are the urologists just slow to react to
this information? I don't know if another 10 year study will do most of us
much good. but right now, I'd give anything for shrinkage in my prostate.


callalily

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Jan 26, 2007, 8:23:41 PM1/26/07
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Dear Putt,

On Jan 26, 6:30 pm, "3Putt from South Carolina" <3putt@secoastofsc>
wrote:
> "jeff_B" <jeff....@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1169827684.5...@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


>
> On Jan 24, 6:52 pm, "callalily" <lfc...@aol.com> wrote:
>

>It's almost comical when you say that "most uros" are slow to "react to the situation". I don't know any uros who "react" at all when it comes to nutrition. Wouldn't it be nice if a uro told a pc patient upon diagnosis, "you know, it wouldn't hurt if you ate some tomato sauce". And broccoli.. . .

As a matter of fact, I ordered my husband a Prostate supplement, and it
says to take it only under the supervision of a doctor. Well, which
doctor do they have in mind? His surgeon, no. His internist, no. The
truth is there aren't many doctors who have the time or will to deal
with this subject.

I want to ask: I got some "broccoli sprouts" pills that I had ordered
and I am concerned because along with the sprout extract they have 488
mgs of calcium. I guess I didn't read the fine print. I know you will
say, "Eat the real thing" and we are working on that, too. Well, is
this a deadly mixture and will I have to end up ingesting it?? I
ordered 2 bottles...

*** I had to move the cursor 4 ways just to write this message, i.e,
scroll horizontally and vertically the whole time. I think Google has
really debased itself. Like today, I typed in "googlegroups", which
usually brings up my NG, but instead I got a list of "favored sites"
and it was all advertisements.

O.T.: If swimming is so good for fitness, how do you account for
whales??

>
>

I.P. Freely

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Jan 26, 2007, 11:15:34 PM1/26/07
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3Putt from South Carolina wrote:
> are the urologists just slow to react to this information?

They -- rightfully -- wait for peer-reviewed, large-scale, double-blind,
proof. Otherwise they and their patients would get jerked around like
rag dolls by every new rumor, claim, biomedically logical idea,
poorly-designed study, and/or outright faked study.

I.P.

I.P. Freely

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Jan 26, 2007, 11:20:58 PM1/26/07
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callalily wrote:
> I am concerned because along with the sprout extract they have 488
> mgs of calcium.

According to Duke U's summary of the latest NIH-AARP Diet & Health
Study, calcium does not increase the risk of PC and discourages other
cancers.

I.P.

JohnHace

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Jan 27, 2007, 11:02:01 AM1/27/07
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On Jan 26, 11:20 pm, "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddabou...@noway.nohow>
wrote:


>According to Duke U's summary of the latest NIH-AARP Diet & Health
> Study, calcium does not increase the risk of PC and discourages other
> cancers.

It was my understanding that the problem with excess calcium was it
consumes or nullifies the benefits of Vitamin D. I think I read that
should increase your Vitamin D supplementation with any increase in
calcium.

John

callalily

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Jan 27, 2007, 11:20:43 AM1/27/07
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Dear All,

On Jan 26, 11:15?pm, "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddabou...@noway.nohow>
wrote:


> 3Putt from South Carolina wrote:
>

> > are the urologists just slow to react to this information?They -- rightfully -- wait for peer-reviewed, large-scale, double-blind,


> proof. Otherwise they and their patients would get jerked around like
> rag dolls by every new rumor, claim, biomedically logical idea,
> poorly-designed study, and/or outright faked study.
>
> I.P.

As I've said before, I can assure you that if your uro had pca, she
would be putting tomato sauce in his coffee and eating broccoli w/pom
sauce. You know that.

Nobody ever died from eating tomato sauce, as far as I know, and it's
not a burden for most people to include it in their diet.

Why do you think the PC Foundation and many others recommend eating
certain foods. Even if they haven't met the stringent requirements
for scientific studies, they are **very suggestive** that certain
nutrients can help with PCa.

Leah

callalily

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Jan 27, 2007, 11:22:37 AM1/27/07
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On Jan 26, 11:20�pm, "I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddabou...@noway.nohow>
wrote:

Yeah. But what if you already have the Beast?

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