Well, it is like this... There are two sides here, both of whom hate each other. It makes it impossible to get decent information out to people who are looking for serious information on implants, or implant related problems...
They are so busy throwing insults at one another, they do not consider how they have hurt this issue and this is why some of us who used to post here have gone away...
It is like a bad soap opera. You can miss reading for months and pick up right where you left off without even reviewing the messages... I have never seen a group of "adults" who seem to thrive on hating each other so much...
Regardless, there are some very nice people involved, but they have let their tempers and other things get the best of them, oneupping each other with the most vicious and vile comments possible... They look like fools and are probably the toast of every cocktail party imaginable to anyone involved in pro implant positions... Meanwhile, imagine new people, or even physicians trying to wade through all of this crap to find out serious information...
If I was going to exert what little energy I have left in this fashion, it would be to vent on the people who made me sick... Cathie
> If I was going to exert what little energy I have left in this fashion, >itwould be to vent on the people who made me sick...Cathie
Ilena and Jan make me sick. Seriously though, it is sad and even tragic that two unimplanted women disrupt this issue so much. It cannot be denied that this board functions quite well when Ilena takes her leave. Kathi, who took over the posting of studies and articles when Ilena first went on the lamb from her judgement, did an excellent job of pulling people together for support. I yhink if Ilena had what is in the best interest of implant survivors in mind, would find others to "advocate". i would certainly stop my negative posts if she quit her crap.
>Subject: Re: i cannot belive that this tension has gone on >From: scarle...@aol.com (Scarlett 6) >Date: 8/31/2004 11:17 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <20040831151759.09711.00000...@mb-m26.aol.com>
><< What is going on in this group?
>Well, it is like this... There are two sides here, both of whom hate >eachother. It makes it impossible to get decent information out to people who >arelooking for serious information on implants, or implant related >problems...They are so busy throwing insults at one another, they do not >consider how theyhave hurt this issue and this is why some of us who used to >post here have goneaway...It is like a bad soap opera. You can miss reading >for months and pick up rightwhere you left off without even reviewing the >messages... I have never seen agroup of "adults" who seem to thrive on hating >each other so much...Regardless, there are some very nice people involved, >but they have let theirtempers and other things get the best of them, >oneupping each other with themost vicious and vile comments possible... They >look like fools and areprobably the toast of every cocktail party imaginable >to anyone involved in proimplant positions... Meanwhile, imagine new people, >or even physicians tryingto wade through all of this crap to find out serious >information... If I was going to exert what little energy I have left in this >fashion, itwould be to vent on the people who made me sick...Cathie
Thanks for sharing Cathie. It is indeed sad.
Most likely this post will be followed by those who point fingers, never taking responsibilty for their own behavior.
>Subject: Re: i cannot belive that this tension has gone on >From: oorer...@aol.com (OOREROOM) >Date: 8/31/2004 12:08 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <20040831160815.03232.00000...@mb-m19.aol.com>
>> If I was going to exert what little energy I have left in this fashion, >>itwould be to vent on the people who made me sick...Cathie
>Ilena and Jan make me sick.
So much for that, here is the problem, which continues.
Some just point the finger, and never take responsibility for themselves
<snip Bob's blaming everyone but himself>
One might note that Bob was doing this long before I ever came here.
>So much for that, here is the problem, which continues.
> Some just point the finger, and never take responsibility for themselves
><snip Bob's blaming everyone but himself>
>One might note that Bob was doing this long before I ever came here.
>Jan
Even someone as thickly dishonest as you would have to admit that your posts here have done nothing bur exacerbate the situation You have no other reason for being here.
>Most likely this post will be followed by those who point fingers, never >taking >responsibilty for their own behavior.
>Jan
Question of the day for our two medical, legal and scientific experts, Jan and Ilena: How do you two manage to keep the forefingers of you right hands up your noses and your thumbs up you behinds at the same time?
>Subject: Re: i cannot belive that this tension has gone on >From: oorer...@aol.com (OOREROOM) >Date: 8/31/2004 2:18 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <20040831181801.03232.00000...@mb-m19.aol.com>
>>Thanks for sharing Cathie. It is indeed sad.
>>Most likely this post will be followed by those who point fingers, never >>taking >>responsibilty for their own behavior.
>>Jan
>Question of the day for our two medical, legal and scientific experts, Jan >and Ilena:
>>So much for that, here is the problem, which continues.
>> Some just point the finger, and never take responsibility for themselves
>><snip Bob's blaming everyone but himself>
>>One might note that Bob was doing this long before I ever came here.
>>Jan
> Even someone as thickly dishonest as you > would have to admit that your posts here > have done nothing bur exacerbate the > situation > You have no other reason for being here.
Wouldn't you think that a grown woman would figure out that where ever she goes people wish she'd leave?
>>Question of the day for our two medical, legal and scientific experts, Jan >>and Ilena:
>Oh?
>Medical, legal and scientific experts??????
>Take a break Bob, you are consumed with lies.
><Snip more insults>
>Siiiiiiiigh
>Jan
No Jan, you are the liar. You are here with your busy body nose, pretending to know about things you don't (I think there is a consenses backing that up). You are not a breast implant survivor and the only thing you add is fuel to the fire.
This is not the only board where you but in with no real knowledge to share about the subject and no need for information. or need. What do you know about the legalities or the science of medicine, be it alternative or conventional? You are a faker and a closed minded OLD crone.
> Some just point the finger, and never take responsibility for themselves
Some people are so starved for attention that they don't care about respect. I don't have to point at you for people to know I'm talking about you, you are a blinking neon sign bearing the message.
>Subject: Re: i cannot belive that this tension has gone on >From: oorer...@aol.com (OOREROOM) >Date: 8/31/2004 6:04 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <20040831220403.21432.00000...@mb-m19.aol.com> >Subject: Re: i cannot belive that this tension has gone on >From: oorer...@aol.com (OOREROOM) >Date: 8/31/2004 6:04 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <20040831220403.21432.00000...@mb-m19.aol.com>
>>>Question of the day for our two medical, legal and scientific experts, Jan >>>and Ilena:
>>Oh?
>>Medical, legal and scientific experts??????
>>Take a break Bob, you are consumed with lies.
>><Snip more insults>
>>Siiiiiiiigh
>>Jan
>No Jan, you >You are >you don't > You are >where you > you know > You are
Some just point the finger, and never take responsibility for themselves
>Subject: Re: i cannot belive that this tension has gone on >From: "Coleah" cole...@yahoo.com >Date: 8/31/2004 5:57 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <10jab5466dqr...@corp.supernews.com>
>>>So much for that, here is the problem, which continues.
>>> Some just point the finger, and never take responsibility for themselves
>>><snip Bob's blaming everyone but himself>
>>>One might note that Bob was doing this long before I ever came here.
>>>Jan
>> Even someone as thickly dishonest as you >> would have to admit that your posts here >> have done nothing bur exacerbate the >> situation >> You have no other reason for being here.
>Wouldn't you think that a grown woman would figure out >that where ever she goes people wish she'd leave?
That just might be because I don't tolerate LYING.
YOU and BOB are PROVEN liars.
GOd only know how many lis you two have told.
The truth always brings unrest to the guilty.
Jan
People who respect themselves view selfishness, loss of self-discipline, recklessness, cowardice and dishonesty as wrong and unworthy of them. They have inner strength and are unwilling to let others use or manipulate them. They know that showing patience or tolerance does not mean allowing others to mistreat them.
>Subject: Re: i cannot belive that this tension has gone on >From: oorer...@aol.com (OOREROOM) >Date: 8/31/2004 6:44 PM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <20040831224448.21432.00000...@mb-m19.aol.com> >You still haven't answered the question:
jdrew63...@aol.com (Jan) wrote in message <news:20040901004811.05436.00000027@mb-m20.aol.com>... > >Subject: Re: i cannot belive that this tension has gone on > >From: oorer...@aol.com (OOREROOM) > >Date: 8/31/2004 6:44 PM Pacific Standard Time > >Message-id: <20040831224448.21432.00000...@mb-m19.aol.com>
> Jan, > Who died & made you God???? > You sit in judgement of everyone here.
> I've stated many times your no better > then we are.....so stuff it where the > sun don't shine! > ~~~KAT~~~
> jdrew63...@aol.com (Jan) wrote in message > <news:20040901004811.05436.00000027@mb-m20.aol.com>... >> >Subject: Re: i cannot belive that this tension has gone on >> >From: oorer...@aol.com (OOREROOM) >> >Date: 8/31/2004 6:44 PM Pacific Standard Time >> >Message-id: <20040831224448.21432.00000...@mb-m19.aol.com>
This group has a terrorizing activist posting on behalf of a non-profit charitable organisation using any means available to stifle the freedom of speech of usenet posters.
This non-profit has used lawsuits, threats, intimidation, blackmail, and extortion to stifle speech of usenet posters.
You shouldn't be surprised at the tension shown in response to those attacks.
is a Terrorist from the Quack Regime and frequently advertises for Quacks Polevoy and Barrett ... the more they have lost to me in court ... the filthier their campaign against me is ... Nidiffer is a longtime Usenet Terrorist ... used to go by the name of "Cathy Credulous."