> Jan Drew wrote: >> "Skeptic" <bcs0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:4CbWf.890846$xm3.195401@attbi_s21... >>> What "choice" did man have when smallpox killed thousands? What choice >>> does man have when volcanoes erupt or typhoons devastate or tornadoes >>> destroy? Your god - if he did exist - would be an evil being.
>> We have seen the results of these choices.
> Jan, I am confused. The victims of smallpox, especially in Europe, were > mostly Christians. Are you saying that G-d allowed this pestilence on the > people that, according to your beliefs, worship his Son?
> Please clear this up.
Oops, you're wrong on this one, Mark. Overall, the greatest number of smallpox victims in history has been native Americans, as the disease wiped out the bulk of the populations of North, Central, and South America. So, the European Christians were just martyrs to Jan's Christian God's cause, charged with the responsibility of carrying smallpox and Jesus to the Americas. Unfortunately, Satan stepped into the process, an usurped Central and South America for the Catholics who pray to saints. --
> Jan Drew wrote: >> "Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message >> news:3TbWf.16$hz3.14@fe11.lga... >>> Jan Drew wrote: >>>> There you go, typical atheist blaming GOD for world conditions.
>>>> GOD *gave* man a choice. We have seen the results of these choices.
>>>> Do Atheists ever blame Satan..... >>> Hint: Atheists do not believe in Satan.
>> Neither do they believe in GOD.
>> Hint: WHO do they blame?
> Darn good question. I have an answer.
> JAN DREW!
> :)
On some of these newsgroups, you are absolutely correct!
>> "Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message >> news:3TbWf.16$hz3.14@fe11.lga... >>> Jan Drew wrote: >>>> There you go, typical atheist blaming GOD for world conditions.
>>>> GOD *gave* man a choice. We have seen the results of these choices.
> Jan Drew wrote: >> "Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message >> news:3TbWf.16$hz3.14@fe11.lga... >> > Jan Drew wrote: >> >> There you go, typical atheist blaming GOD for world conditions.
>> >> GOD *gave* man a choice. We have seen the results of these choices.
>> >> Do Atheists ever blame Satan.....
>> > Hint: Atheists do not believe in Satan.
>> Neither do they believe in GOD.
>> Hint: WHO do they blame?
> We don't blame anyone, Jan. We certainly don't blame god.
Of course you do, and that is, God.
> We merely suggest that it is inconsistent when fools such as youself
It is you, who is the *fool* sadly, you don't know it.
claim that your omnipotent god is responsible for getting a convicted
> felon
There have been many convicted felons, who have been convicted, and were INNOCENT.
[No, I am not saying, Manuel was, I AM making a point! Furthermore, the lot of you need to study more about a *felon* ...
out of gaol early and counting hairs on heads,
It was not *me* who claimed the counting hairs on heads.
but bears no responsibility for the many catastrophes, injustices and unanswered
> > Jan Drew wrote: > >> "Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message > >> news:3TbWf.16$hz3.14@fe11.lga... > >> > Jan Drew wrote: > >> >> There you go, typical atheist blaming GOD for world conditions.
> >> >> GOD *gave* man a choice. We have seen the results of these choices.
> >> >> Do Atheists ever blame Satan.....
> >> > Hint: Atheists do not believe in Satan.
> >> Neither do they believe in GOD.
> >> Hint: WHO do they blame?
> > We don't blame anyone, Jan. We certainly don't blame god.
> Of course you do, and that is, God.
Use you brain a sec, Jan. I don't believe in god. How could I possibly blame him for anything.
> > We merely suggest that it is inconsistent when fools such as youself
> It is you, who is the *fool* sadly, you don't know it.
> claim that your omnipotent god is responsible for getting a convicted > > felon
> There have been many convicted felons, who have been convicted, and were > INNOCENT.
Relevance?
> [No, I am not saying, Manuel was, I AM making a point! Furthermore, the lot > of you need to study more about > a *felon* ...
Relevance?
> out of gaol early and counting hairs on heads,
> It was not *me* who claimed the counting hairs on heads.
> but bears no responsibility for the many catastrophes, injustices and > unanswered > > prayers that are part of life on this planet.
>> > Jan Drew wrote: >> >> "Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message >> >> news:3TbWf.16$hz3.14@fe11.lga... >> >> > Jan Drew wrote: >> >> >> There you go, typical atheist blaming GOD for world conditions.
>> >> >> GOD *gave* man a choice. We have seen the results of these >> >> >> choices.
>> >> >> Do Atheists ever blame Satan.....
>> >> > Hint: Atheists do not believe in Satan.
>> >> Neither do they believe in GOD.
>> >> Hint: WHO do they blame?
>> > We don't blame anyone, Jan. We certainly don't blame god.
>> Of course you do, and that is, God.
> Use you brain a sec, Jan. I don't believe in god. How could I possibly > blame him for anything.
>> > We merely suggest that it is inconsistent when fools such as youself
>> It is you, who is the *fool* sadly, you don't know it.
>> claim that your omnipotent god is responsible for getting a convicted >> > felon
>> There have been many convicted felons, who have been convicted, and were >> INNOCENT.
> Relevance?
Ask yourself, it is you and the *gang* who keep bring it up..
>> [No, I am not saying, Manuel was, I AM making a point! Furthermore, the >> lot >> of you need to study more about >> a *felon* ...
> Relevance?
Se above.
>> out of gaol early and counting hairs on heads,
>> It was not *me* who claimed the counting hairs on heads.
>> but bears no responsibility for the many catastrophes, injustices and >> unanswered >> > prayers that are part of life on this planet.
>>>>>>>>>> is spreading an enormous amount of absolutely false >>>>>>>>>> information as >>>>>>>>>> 'facts' on Usenet ... I deal with just a few of her personal >>>>>>>>>> attacks >>>>>>>>>> on me at the link above.
>>>>>>>>>> Wirsen on livers:
>>>>>>>>>>> People only have one liver, jan, and you cannot donate your >>>>>>>>>>> liver to >>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>> person, for if you do, you will die yourself. >>>>>>>>>> No doctor on the face of this earth would remove a liver from a >>>>>>>>>> healthy >>>>>>>>>> human being to give it to an illl person. That would be murder.
>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>> As usual ... she has a touch of truth mixed in with a lot of >>>>>>>>>> nonsense.
>>>>>>>>> It's nonsense? >>>>>>>>> You CAN donate your liver to another person? >>>>>>>>> Jan said Miguels (name, I don't know)
>>>>>>>> Can't remember clear back to....December 24, 2005.
>>>>>>>> Too lazy to look it up....
>>>>>>>> girlfirend was donating her liver to
>>>>>>>>> him. >>>>>>>>> I told her that was not possible, that you cannot donate you >>>>>>>>> liver to >>>>>>>>> another...just as you quote me above. >>>>>>>>> I was then told by another poster that you can donate PART of your >>>>>>>>> liver. >>>>>>>>> I did not know this, but replied to Jan's claim that she was >>>>>>>>> donating >>>>>>>>> her >>>>>>>>> liver, not PART of her liver. >>>>>>>>> If memory serves me, I DID readily admit that I did not know that >>>>>>>>> partial >>>>>>>>> donations of livers could be done, but that Jan SAID nothing >>>>>>>>> about a >>>>>>>>> partial donation, and I believed she meant the WHOLE liver and >>>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> is not possible. >>>>>>>>> I don't have time to INVESTIGATE the complete workings of every >>>>>>>>> issue >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> is brought up on this, or any other newsgroup.
>>>>>>>> riiiiiiigggggggtttttttt.
>>>>>>>> She spents her time going back to 1996 loooking up ALL of >>>>>>>> IIena's posts.
>>>>>>>> While claiming I spit in her face, she took my post the MIRACLE >>>>>>>> posted >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> Manuel, as did the entire *gang* >>>>>>>> and DESPICABLY trashed A MIRACLE from GOD.
>>>>>>> Letting a felon out early?? LOL.
>>>>>>> If ever a person needed a good root, that person is Jan.
>>>>>> No no, cathy, I believe she is referring to the change in the >>>>>> young man >>>>>> being a 'miracle', and if he has truely changed, it is, indeed. >>>>>> On that point I agree with her.
>>>>> I was not only referring to that, but only the fact, that it was a >>>>> mriacle
>>>>> from GOD that he was released.
>>>>> One would need to know the history of the prosecutor to fully >>>>> understand.
>>>> How about the history of the felon?
>>> Well, Jan claims that whatever crime he committed, there were no >>> victims. Presumably, then we can guess what his crime was.
> >> > Jan Drew wrote: > >> >> "Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:3TbWf.16$hz3.14@fe11.lga... > >> >> > Jan Drew wrote: > >> >> >> There you go, typical atheist blaming GOD for world conditions.
> >> >> >> GOD *gave* man a choice. We have seen the results of these > >> >> >> choices.
> >> >> >> Do Atheists ever blame Satan.....
> >> >> > Hint: Atheists do not believe in Satan.
> >> >> Neither do they believe in GOD.
> >> >> Hint: WHO do they blame?
> >> > We don't blame anyone, Jan. We certainly don't blame god.
> >> Of course you do, and that is, God.
> > Use you brain a sec, Jan. I don't believe in god. How could I possibly > > blame him for anything.
> >> > We merely suggest that it is inconsistent when fools such as youself
> >> It is you, who is the *fool* sadly, you don't know it.
> >> claim that your omnipotent god is responsible for getting a convicted > >> > felon
> >> There have been many convicted felons, who have been convicted, and were > >> INNOCENT.
> > Relevance?
> Ask yourself, it is you and the *gang* who keep bring it up..
Neither I nor anyone other than you has brought up the innocence of convicted felons. That's a lie, Jan.
> >> [No, I am not saying, Manuel was, I AM making a point! Furthermore, the > >> lot > >> of you need to study more about > >> a *felon* ...
> > Relevance?
> Se above.
Neither I nor anyone other than you has brought up the innocence of convicted felons, nor that anyone needs to learn more about them. That's a lie, Jan.
> >> out of gaol early and counting hairs on heads,
> >> It was not *me* who claimed the counting hairs on heads.
> >> but bears no responsibility for the many catastrophes, injustices and > >> unanswered > >> > prayers that are part of life on this planet.
> >> You are a fool, Cathy.
> >> I will pray you wake up before it is to late.
Waste your time as you please, pitiful fool. Should the god you pray to, the one that's more concerned with the number of hairs on your head and getting convicted prisoners out of gaol early rather than dealing with the misery and suffering of innocents worldwide actually exist, he's unlikely to heed you.
