New artwork on website
Hussin
it on the website. To see it, go to www.cheese-a-phone.com and click on the
link to Yusuf's art gallery.
Thanks
--
Hussin
Visit my website at www.cheese-a-phone.com
Molybdenum
>
> Yusuf made some artwork over the past couple of days and insisted that i put
> it on the website. To see it, go to www.cheese-a-phone.com and click on the
> link to Yusuf's art gallery.
Wow, that's fantastic! I especially like the Mountain On A Sunny Day
(which stylistically bears a strong resemblance to some machines Ger's
been drawing this week) and the bridge is gorgeous!!! Nothing wrong with
Yusuf's fine motor skills :)
He's so lucky to have his own online art gallery :) We actually gave Ger
an art gallery for Christmas last year, but it's just our front hall so
not many people get to see it.
What software is Yusuf using? Ger's been trying his hand at AppleWorks
but it's really fiddly for small hands, and he just gets frustrated.
I've ordered Kid Pix for him because I know he uses it at school, so he
should be able to handle that (just set up for him his own account on
this computer yesterday, and this is his first "very own" piece of
software...I'm sure it's a slippery slope from here...).
I think I have some webspace somewhere so if he produces anything
fabulous I'll stick it up there. We have thousands of fantastic drawings
on paper I could put up, if only I could figure out how to connect my
SCSI devices to my USB ports :\
Anyway, I strayed a bit but what I really wanted to say was, well done
Yusuf! I'm impressed :) and I'm not easily impressed by children's drawings...
Monica
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Hussin wrote:
>
>> Yusuf made some artwork over the past couple of days and insisted
>> that i put it on the website. To see it, go to
>> www.cheese-a-phone.com and click on the link to Yusuf's art
>> gallery.
>
> What software is Yusuf using? Ger's been trying his hand at
> AppleWorks but it's really fiddly for small hands, and he just gets
> frustrated.
Looks like MS Paint.
> Anyway, I strayed a bit but what I really wanted to say was, well
> done Yusuf! I'm impressed :) and I'm not easily impressed by
> children's drawings...
My favorite is "House in a Mountain" - it reminds me of Tracey Island.
Rowe
Hussin
Thanks for your great review of Yusuf's art! The program Yusuf is using is
just Microsoft Paint that comes with Windows. Sometimes he also uses
Paintshop 7. He knows how to make pictures and save them and can even set
them as his wallpaper. I got kidpix for my daughter a few years ago and she
really enjoyed playing with it. I'm sure Ger will like it. I think he'll
also like having his own account. Just watch what he does. You'll love it!
I'd love to see a website featuring art and writings of autistic children. I
can't wait to see Ger's stuff online.
Hussin
> Molybdenum wrote:
>
>> Hussin wrote:
>>
>>> Yusuf made some artwork over the past couple of days and insisted
>>> that i put it on the website. To see it, go to
>>> www.cheese-a-phone.com and click on the link to Yusuf's art
>>> gallery.
>>
>> What software is Yusuf using? Ger's been trying his hand at
>> AppleWorks but it's really fiddly for small hands, and he just gets
>> frustrated.
>
> Looks like MS Paint.
>
Correct. Sometimes he also uses Paintshop 7.
>> Anyway, I strayed a bit but what I really wanted to say was, well
>> done Yusuf! I'm impressed :) and I'm not easily impressed by
>> children's drawings...
>
> My favorite is "House in a Mountain" - it reminds me of Tracey Island.
>
He made that one just yesterday. He was in a mood to draw mountains, but he
also likes to draw houses.
Molybdenum
>
> I'd love to see a website featuring art and writings of autistic children. I
> can't wait to see Ger's stuff online.
So would I! In fact, I've looked for children's drawings on line and
have yet to find a satisfactory archive of those, never mind of autistic
children's drawings!
Oops Wrong Planet has some wonderful drawings and writings.
And I *know* I've found a site somewhere in the past that had drawings
by autistic kids (or was it just one kid?) but I can't dig it up.
Maybe we could use some of Rowe's vast available server space to start
an archive :)
Monica
Hussin
You can set one up on Yahoo! not for $20, but for only $19.95 :)) a month.
It also comes with the ability to setup 25 email addresses for that price.
That's why I have a cheese-a-phone.com email address. They also provide
tools that make it easy to set up your website. I use SiteBuilder since I
haven't learned that much HTML yet. Yahoo also does domain name
registration, so once you think of a good domain name, you can get started.
The autist formerly known as
incomprehensibility of my imediatly precedent post, I am going to prove that
I have not lost it by some relative standard of coherency in this,
Yep I got to the site this time, and in the international parlance of
approbation I declare it to be cool, I had not nor knew of computers when I
was relatively Hussins age, but I appreciate his appreciation of buildings
and houses.
Cool is the word so tell him so :)
--
şT
L'autisme c'est moi
"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"
"Hussin" <kd...@frontiernet.netttttttt> wrote in message
news:bwDOc.1745$ry5....@news01.roc.ny...
Hussin
> Notwithstanding (no doubt the L person's favorite word) the
> incomprehensibility of my imediatly precedent post, I am going to
> prove that I have not lost it by some relative standard of coherency
> in this,
>
> Yep I got to the site this time, and in the international parlance of
> approbation I declare it to be cool, I had not nor knew of computers
> when I was relatively Hussins age, but I appreciate his appreciation
> of buildings and houses.
>
> Cool is the word so tell him so :)
>
>
>
Thanks. I'll tell Yusuf. He does like seeing his art on the website. :)
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Hussin wrote:
>
>> I'd love to see a website featuring art and writings of autistic
>> children. I can't wait to see Ger's stuff online.
>
<snip>
> Maybe we could use some of Rowe's vast available server space to
> start an archive :)
I would be happy to donate the space. Just mail me at <ROT13> gbz ng
fgnvtug qbg arg </ROT13> if you're interested.
Rowe
Dolphinius
> it on the website. To see it, go to www.cheese-a-phone.com and click on the
> link to Yusuf's art gallery.
>
> Thanks
I think they were well worth putting there even if he hadn't insisted.
Many are very pleasing to look at in their own right and the fact
they've been drawn by a five-year-old is amazing! Please tell him I
like them.
Dolphinius
(Male, early thirties, UK, self-diagnosed AS)
Hussin
Thanks. I'll tell him. In a way, I do need to ask him before I put something
on the site since he is very fussy about his work and wont let me do
anything with it until he has it just the way he likes it. :)
Bubbleghost
<kd...@frontiernet.netttttttt> writes
>Yusuf made some artwork over the past couple of days and insisted that i put
>it on the website. To see it, go to www.cheese-a-phone.com and click on the
>link to Yusuf's art gallery.
I like the mountain and the bridge best. They capture the 'being' of
each one. Essence, that's the word I'm looking for.
The dissected computer is good fun.
They're very talented for a five yr old. Tell him they're great and to
get some more in his gallery please.
--
Bubbleghost
Hussin
Thanks. He does more almost every day. It's his favorite thing to do when
he's not chasing his brother or taking something apart :))
Jean B.
>
> You can set one up on Yahoo! not for $20, but for only $19.95 :)) a month.
> It also comes with the ability to setup 25 email addresses for that price.
> That's why I have a cheese-a-phone.com email address. They also provide
> tools that make it easy to set up your website. I use SiteBuilder since I
> haven't learned that much HTML yet. Yahoo also does domain name
> registration, so once you think of a good domain name, you can get started.
>
having a show? Can't you just see some of those being
mass-distributed?
My daughter, now 13, is also an artist. In fact, she wants to be
a manga artist. If a site is made for such collected works, I'm
sure she would be pleased to have some of her work there.
--
Jean B.
Hussin
In fact, there is an annual show here (Brighton, NY) where the artwork of
local kids is featured. I'm planning on entering some of Yusuf's stuff in
it.
Rowe Rickenbacker
> My daughter, now 13, is also an artist. In fact, she wants to be a
> manga artist. If a site is made for such collected works, I'm sure
> she would be pleased to have some of her work there.
WOW!
Rowe
is a big anime / manga / japan-in-general fan.
Jean B.
>
> In fact, there is an annual show here (Brighton, NY) where the artwork of
> local kids is featured. I'm planning on entering some of Yusuf's stuff in
> it.
>
of the day.
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
Well, the chances of her becoming a manga artist are slim, but not
nonexistent. I am trying to encourage her to enter a contest (I
think sponsored by Shonen Jump), but she doesn't think she is
ready yet. For one thing, her backgrounds need work.
Interestingly, she is also greatly interested in Japan and, in
fact, considers herself to be Asian (even though she has blond
hair and blue eyes). She is going to start Japanese lessons in a
week or so.
One more interesting thing about this is that I am also very
interested in Asia and Japan, but her interest does not stem from
mine. It stems totally from anime (first) and then manga.
--
Jean B.
Hussin
I would love to see some of her work on the web too. If you can think of a
good domain name, maybe you should start with Yahoo web hosting. The package
I have gives me 100MB of storage space and 25 email accounts. That's why I
now use a cheese-a-phone.com email address.
My kids really are 1/2 Asian since their mother is Indonesian.
Jean B.
>
[snip]
>
> I would love to see some of her work on the web too. If you can think of a
> good domain name, maybe you should start with Yahoo web hosting. The package
> I have gives me 100MB of storage space and 25 email accounts. That's why I
> now use a cheese-a-phone.com email address.
>
> My kids really are 1/2 Asian since their mother is Indonesian.
>
Leah would be green with envy about that, since she thinks it's a
cruel twist of fate that she is not Asian.
I'll work on getting some of her work online. BTW, my daughter
has actually had some little art commissions from people--only one
adult, but several classmates. Maybe your son will have some at
an early age!
--
Jean B.
Hussin
Maybe someone will notice his work at the art show and he'll get a
commission that way. He probably couldn't draw what someone else tells him
to draw. He likes to draw on his own. He gets really focused and doesn't
like to be disturbed while he is drawing.
Molybdenum
>
> Molybdenum wrote:
> >
> > I've ordered Kid Pix for him because I know he uses it at school, so
> > he should be able to handle that (just set up for him his own account
> > on this computer yesterday, and this is his first "very own" piece of
> > software...I'm sure it's a slippery slope from here...).
>
> really enjoyed playing with it. I'm sure Ger will like it.
Kidpix arrived today.
Note to self: when buying software for the children, refrain from
telling them about it until it is actually *installed* on the computer,
and you know it's working.
Can't install it, lost in the circuitous mazes of online tech support,
haven't even figured out how to e-mail customer service :(
Monica
Molybdenum
>
> He probably couldn't draw what someone else tells him
> to draw. He likes to draw on his own. He gets really focused and doesn't
> like to be disturbed while he is drawing.
Ger has an assortment of quirks associated with drawing, but one thing
is clear: he NEEDS to draw.
And has been telling me so since he was three years old.
He would be obviously tired or agitated, and announce, "I need to
draw"...and when I gave him the materials, he would sit for ages doing
his thing. I think it qualifies as a stim :)
I've only asked him to draw specific things very occasionally, the
result doesn't compare in quality to the things he comes up with by himself.
Monica
Hussin
That sounds a lot like Yusuf. He needs to draw and he insists on doing it
his way. Sometimes he draws on the walls if he gets hold of a pen. If he
asks me for a pen, I always insist that he "draw on paper". If I'm using the
computer, he will sometimes say, "Can I use computer?", and then start
drawing with paintbrush. Most recently, he figured out how to set his
drawings as wallpaper. Maybe drawing is Yusuf's stim too. :)
Hussin
What happened when you tried to install it?
Molybdenum
>
> That sounds a lot like Yusuf. He needs to draw and he insists on doing it
> his way. Sometimes he draws on the walls if he gets hold of a pen.
That sounds familiar :) From an early age the rule was "only on
paper"...but a few months ago it changed to "you may draw on the walls
in your room, but you may only use a regular pencil" (it's a bit of a
nuisance sometimes, but I can't really get worked up about it since I've
discovered the wonders of Mr. Clean Magic Eraser).
There are some fantastic things on the walls of his room, that I'm going
to paint (in, not over) if I ever get around to it :)
And I have plenty of photographs of interestingly decorated walls from
our previous house...
Lately he's really interested in painting on canvas, so I've gotten him
a few little canvases and he's produced some fascinating paintings. He's
seemed to consider a painting to be an entirely different thing from a
drawing. In fact he painted for quite a long time before he even got the
idea that he could use paint to make representative pictures...we have a
lot of "abstracts" :)
Monica
Molybdenum
>
> Molybdenum wrote:
> >
> > Kidpix arrived today.
> >
> > Can't install it, lost in the circuitous mazes of online tech support,
> > haven't even figured out how to e-mail customer service :(
>
No installer icon.
Monica
Sojourner
Say whut?
Does it 'need' an icon?
Sojo
Hussin
Does the CD have an autorun program? What operating system are you using?
Hussin
Magis eraser does work well, but it doesn't work on everything. It seems
that even with magic eraser, I might still have to paint the walls,
especially with my Sarah's birthday coming up.
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>
>>> My daughter, now 13, is also an artist. In fact, she wants to be
>>> a manga artist. If a site is made for such collected works, I'm
>>> sure she would be pleased to have some of her work there.
>>
>> Rowe is a big anime / manga / japan-in-general fan.
>
> Well, the chances of her becoming a manga artist are slim, but not
> nonexistent. I am trying to encourage her to enter a contest (I
> think sponsored by Shonen Jump), but she doesn't think she is ready
> yet. For one thing, her backgrounds need work.
Would it be possible to see an example or two? or would she disagree
with that? Artists tend to be either far too self-confident, or far too
self-critical, and if her work is good, then maybe your daughter has
accidentally fallen into the latter category. Not a problem, but
everyone needs a push sometime, right? :)
> Interestingly, she is also greatly interested in Japan and, in fact,
> considers herself to be Asian (even though she has blond hair and
> blue eyes).
Likewise. If I could have my brain transplanted with a Japanese guy's,
then I would be happy. I'll neglect to include bad jokes about
transplanting my brain with a Japanese girl's.
> She is going to start Japanese lessons in a week or so.
I am very jealous. I would love to take classes.
> One more interesting thing about this is that I am also very
> interested in Asia and Japan, but her interest does not stem from
> mine. It stems totally from anime (first) and then manga.
My interest is probably more generally Japan, but fairly centered in
Japanese youth / pop culture. I have some Animes that I just don't
miss, and that is mostly because of the attitudes and lifestyles that
they communicate... the people and feelings connect so strongly with
me (compared to Europe, maybe) that I would almost definately consider
trying to spend time there if I wasn't also concentrating on A) checking
out Canada, and B) signing myself into a 9-12 year employment contract.
Rowe
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Molybdenum wrote:
>
>> Hussin wrote:
>>
>>> Molybdenum wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kidpix arrived today.
>>>>
>>>> Can't install it, lost in the circuitous mazes of online tech
>>>> support, haven't even figured out how to e-mail customer
>>>> service :(
>>>
>>> What happened when you tried to install it?
>>
>> No installer icon.
If you're on the Mac, when you go on the CD, you should be able to
drag/drop the software into your Applications folder, which
automatically installs it.
> Say whut?
>
> Does it 'need' an icon?
On Macs it does, assuming this is the "one button" computer we're
talking about.
Rowe
the newly indoctrinated Mac professor
Jean B.
>
> Jean B. wrote:
> >
> > Well, the chances of her becoming a manga artist are slim, but not
> > nonexistent. I am trying to encourage her to enter a contest (I
> > think sponsored by Shonen Jump), but she doesn't think she is ready
> > yet. For one thing, her backgrounds need work.
>
> Would it be possible to see an example or two? or would she disagree
> with that? Artists tend to be either far too self-confident, or far too
> self-critical, and if her work is good, then maybe your daughter has
> accidentally fallen into the latter category. Not a problem, but
> everyone needs a push sometime, right? :)
I'll ask her. Is that a real email addy? If not send it via
email. Do you have a high-speed connection?
>
> > Interestingly, she is also greatly interested in Japan and, in fact,
> > considers herself to be Asian (even though she has blond hair and
> > blue eyes).
>
> Likewise. If I could have my brain transplanted with a Japanese guy's,
> then I would be happy. I'll neglect to include bad jokes about
> transplanting my brain with a Japanese girl's.
OTOH... I lived in Japan for two years. It was VERY hard.
Things may have changed some by now, but then people were really
expected to conform. And at least in Tokyo it was very crowded,
and there seemed to be no sense of personal space. It drove me
crazy!
>
> > She is going to start Japanese lessons in a week or so.
>
> I am very jealous. I would love to take classes.
Can you do it? Actually, she is intimidated by having to actually
learn all the hiragana, and she can't start until she does. We
have to break it down I guess.
>
> > One more interesting thing about this is that I am also very
> > interested in Asia and Japan, but her interest does not stem from
> > mine. It stems totally from anime (first) and then manga.
>
> My interest is probably more generally Japan, but fairly centered in
> Japanese youth / pop culture.
Ah yes, and interesting scene. Brings, IIRC, Omote-Sando to
mind. I wonder whether that is still a hot place for the Japanese
in crowd?
I have some Animes that I just don't
> miss, and that is mostly because of the attitudes and lifestyles that
> they communicate... the people and feelings connect so strongly with
> me (compared to Europe, maybe) that I would almost definately consider
> trying to spend time there if I wasn't also concentrating on A) checking
> out Canada, and B) signing myself into a 9-12 year employment contract.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh. I think you were serious. I hope that wouldn't be
deadly for you (not being literal here, although...). For me the
real problem would have been the training. Some of the
specialties wouldn't have been bad (like cryptography).
--
Jean B.
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>
>>> Well, the chances of her becoming a manga artist are slim, but
>>> not nonexistent. I am trying to encourage her to enter a contest
>>> (I think sponsored by Shonen Jump), but she doesn't think she is
>>> ready yet. For one thing, her backgrounds need work.
>>
>> Would it be possible to see an example or two? or would she
>> disagree with that?
>
> I'll ask her. Is that a real email addy?
Yes, although highly spam-guarded.
You might want to try "tom \at/ staight /dot\ net" :)
> Do you have a high-speed connection?
I certainly do.
>>> She is going to start Japanese lessons in a week or so.
>>
>> I am very jealous. I would love to take classes.
>
> Can you do it? Actually, she is intimidated by having to actually
> learn all the hiragana, and she can't start until she does. We have
> to break it down I guess.
I started learning conversational Japanese, which is an interesting
thing to attempt. I started off with Romanji, and worked up from there.
Didn't get very far at all, though. I need an expert to explain and
guide me, I think.
>> the people and feelings connect so strongly with me that I would
>> almost definately consider trying to spend time there if I wasn't
>> also concentrating on signing myself into a 9-12 year employment
>> contract.
>
> Ahhhhhhhhhhh. I think you were serious. I hope that wouldn't be
> deadly for you (not being literal here, although...). For me the
> real problem would have been the training. Some of the specialties
> wouldn't have been bad (like cryptography).
Communications and anything to do with sound, I like. There are people
whose entire jobs are sitting in planes with headphones listening out
for sounds that submarines make. They're usually stationed around the
British or Australian coasts. I found that interesting.
There are a few things to check out, and I'm looking into them.
The time is very long, and one can drop out anything up to 6 months
(I think) into the contract before it is binding, but I don't know
what opportunities there are to "buy yourself out" or whatever.
Nonetheless... if I can find something I am interested in, then I
would happily do it for my entire life, let alone a few years.
I've been invited to attend a presentation on Monday, which FWICT no
one else at the office today was asked to attend. It lasts 3 hours,
but hopefully will not require any interaction from me, beyond nodding.
Research is key.
Rowe
Sojourner
>
> OTOH... I lived in Japan for two years. It was VERY hard.
> Things may have changed some by now, but then people were really
> expected to conform. And at least in Tokyo it was very crowded,
> and there seemed to be no sense of personal space. It drove me
> crazy!
Groupthink is very strong there as are customs and traditions. Still, it
was one of my favorite places to visit.
Clean frindly and not in your face. Thank God for that, too because
things are a bit packed in some areas although not in most of the places
I was.
.
Plus, they ain't nothing like a genuine night out at the local baths.
=)
SOjo
Jean B.
>
> Maybe someone will notice his work at the art show and he'll get a
> commission that way. He probably couldn't draw what someone else tells him
> to draw. He likes to draw on his own. He gets really focused and doesn't
> like to be disturbed while he is drawing.
>
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
>
> Jean B. wrote:
> > I'll ask her. Is that a real email addy?
>
> Yes, although highly spam-guarded.
>
> You might want to try "tom \at/ staight /dot\ net" :)
Okay. I'll send this to myself so I don't forget. My daughter
decided she has to draw a new pic, because she believes her old
ones are not the best she can do. She is working on it, but I
don't know when she'll get it done.
>
> > Do you have a high-speed connection?
>
> I certainly do.
>
[snip]
>
> I started learning conversational Japanese, which is an interesting
> thing to attempt. I started off with Romanji, and worked up from there.
> Didn't get very far at all, though. I need an expert to explain and
> guide me, I think.
I think so. It is to easy to lead oneself astray. She will have
a Japanese tutor.
>
[snip]
>
> Communications and anything to do with sound, I like. There are people
> whose entire jobs are sitting in planes with headphones listening out
> for sounds that submarines make. They're usually stationed around the
> British or Australian coasts. I found that interesting.
That DOES sound interesting!
>
> There are a few things to check out, and I'm looking into them.
>
> The time is very long, and one can drop out anything up to 6 months
> (I think) into the contract before it is binding,
That's a good "out". I don't believe there was any such thing
when I applied. If there had been, I might have been more
comfortable with going in.
but I don't know
> what opportunities there are to "buy yourself out" or whatever.
> Nonetheless... if I can find something I am interested in, then I
> would happily do it for my entire life, let alone a few years.
Let's hope so!
>
> I've been invited to attend a presentation on Monday, which FWICT no
> one else at the office today was asked to attend. It lasts 3 hours,
> but hopefully will not require any interaction from me, beyond nodding.
>
> Research is key.
You know, I will be very pleased if my daughter is ever as
"together" as you are, Rowe! (That is obviously based on only a
few days of interaction.)
--
Jean B.
Hussin
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
> Okay. I'll send this to myself so I don't forget. My daughter
> decided she has to draw a new pic, because she believes her old
> ones are not the best she can do. She is working on it, but I
> don't know when she'll get it done.
Yusuf is finickey about his pictures too. Sometimes he will go through
several sheets of paper before he is satisfied with a drawing. On the
computer, he used to tantrum a lot until I showed him how to use the undo
function. :))
Hussin
Thanks. It's still a few months away, but I'll let you know how it goes.
Molybdenum
>
> Molybdenum wrote:
> > Hussin wrote:
> >>
> >
> >
> > No installer icon.
>
>
> Does it 'need' an icon?
What else am I gonna click on???
Monica
Molybdenum
>
> > Molybdenum wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> No installer icon.
>
> If you're on the Mac, when you go on the CD, you should be able to
> drag/drop the software into your Applications folder, which
> automatically installs it.
How knowledgeable you are, for someone who's been a Mac user for what?
Five weeks now?
:)
I don't know if I'm particularly dense, or what, but I can't even *find*
the program on the CD. When I open it, it's just a bunch of files and folders.
Monica
Molybdenum
>
> Does the CD have an autorun program? What operating system are you using?
Mac OS X. When I put the CD in an "installer icon" is supposed to appear
on my desktop. It doesn't :(
Monica
Molybdenum
>
> Magis eraser does work well, but it doesn't work on everything. It seems
> that even with magic eraser, I might still have to paint the walls,
> especially with my Sarah's birthday coming up.
Hmmmm. Sharpie.
The other day Ger made some impromptu "papier mache" and fashioned a map
of South America on the living room wall. Then, to verify accuracy, he
got a glossy page with a map on it and "glued" that to the wall, I
suspect using only water. Anyway, the relief map has mostly gotten
scraped off by little picky fingers, but I haven't had the nerve to
tackle the glossy paper yet.
Just when you think you're catching up with them, they develop some new
innovation and surge ahead again...
Monica
Jean B.
>
> Yusuf is finickey about his pictures too. Sometimes he will go through
> several sheets of paper before he is satisfied with a drawing. On the
> computer, he used to tantrum a lot until I showed him how to use the undo
> function. :))
>
discarded a lot of paper after drawing ONE line on them. Need to
recycle....
--
Jean B.
Hussin
Go ahead. Use her name. I also end up recycling a lot of paper after one or
two lines that weren't perfect according to Yusuf. He's actually drawing
right now. I wanted to see what he was drawing, but he just told me to go
away. Lesson: never disturb an artist at work :))
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>
>>> Is that a real email addy?
>>
>> Yes, although highly spam-guarded.
>>
>> You might want to try "tom \at/ staight /dot\ net" :)
>
> Okay. I'll send this to myself so I don't forget. My daughter
> decided she has to draw a new pic, because she believes her old ones
> are not the best she can do. She is working on it, but I don't know
> when she'll get it done.
I'm certainly not going to try to rush her! I would be really interested
to see her work, since while a couple of people I knew used to draw
manga - they never really got far with it, and I certainly didn't get
anywhere, since I am not good for anything but sketching. And, well, if
I can provide some encouragement then I will :)
>> I started learning conversational Japanese, which is an interesting
>> thing to attempt.
<snip>
>> I need an expert to explain and guide me, I think.
>
> I think so. It is to easy to lead oneself astray. She will have a
> Japanese tutor.
I really should look for one, although I wonder if the costs would be
prohibitive...
>> Communications and anything to do with sound, I like. There are
>> people whose entire jobs are sitting in planes with headphones
>> listening out for sounds that submarines make. They're usually
>> stationed around the British or Australian coasts. I found that
>> interesting.
>
> That DOES sound interesting!
If you said that anywhere but here, I'd assume you were being sarcastic,
but, hey, I just realised I've written that information 2-3 times here
in the last day or two, so if I can get as excited about that stuff,
then I wont assume either way about anyone else here yet! :-P
>> There are a few things to check out, and I'm looking into them.
>>
>> The time is very long, and one can drop out anything up to 6 months
>> (I think) into the contract before it is binding,
>
> That's a good "out". I don't believe there was any such thing when I
> applied. If there had been, I might have been more comfortable with
> going in.
Likewise - I would have been VERY reluctant to join if there was no
period like that, although I am still a little reluctant because of the
sheer amount of physical stress and persona-moulding (note I said
persona, because I believe I'll just end up developing "military-acting
Tom") that happens in the first couple of months. But once you're
through it - it's clear sailing from there.
>> I've been invited to attend a presentation on Monday, which FWICT
>> no one else at the office today was asked to attend. It lasts 3
>> hours, but hopefully will not require any interaction from me,
>> beyond nodding.
>>
>> Research is key.
>
> You know, I will be very pleased if my daughter is ever as "together"
> as you are, Rowe! (That is obviously based on only a few days of
> interaction.)
I manage to sound together, although I'm a lot more so than I have been
in a long time. I never felt like that at all when I was in school, and
I'm really glad the whole ordeal is over, to be honest.
Rowe
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>>> Molybdenum wrote:
>>>
>>>> No installer icon.
>>
>> If you're on the Mac, when you go on the CD, you should be able to
>> drag/drop the software into your Applications folder, which
>> automatically installs it.
>
> How knowledgeable you are, for someone who's been a Mac user for
> what? Five weeks now?
Something like that :)
I've installed Mac OS and Linux twice each in that time though ;-)
> I don't know if I'm particularly dense, or what, but I can't even
> *find* the program on the CD. When I open it, it's just a bunch of
> files and folders.
Is there anything that is an *icon* like a special icon, rather than a
folder or a random file. Is there anything that *looks* like it might be
the program? If there isn't, and there aren't any instructions with the
CD, I would wonder whether it's actually a Windows application :-P
Rowe
Rowe Rickenbacker
Usually an icon representing the CD opens on the desktop, and depending
on the CD, a window opens containing icons to click (ie: installers etc)
but often, when you double click on that icon, instead of the window
opening, it jumps straight into an installer.
Basically it's just a better integrated version of autorun :)
Molybdenum
>
> Molybdenum wrote:
>
> > I don't know if I'm particularly dense, or what, but I can't even
> > *find* the program on the CD. When I open it, it's just a bunch of
> > files and folders.
>
> Is there anything that is an *icon* like a special icon, rather than a
> folder or a random file.
No, that's the problem. I would expect to see one, but there's nothing
like that.
> Is there anything that *looks* like it might be
> the program?
Nope.
There's nothing like that. I just went through a bunch of the files and
can't find anything that looks useful. Although the kids have been
having fun watching some of the dozens of .avi files on there :)
> If there isn't, and there aren't any instructions with the
> CD, I would wonder whether it's actually a Windows application :-P
I have a bad bad feeling that that is exactly the problem.
But there *are* instructions; they are "Insert CD in drive and click on
installer icon". The packaging says it's for Windows or Mac; on the face
of the CD itself it says it's for Windows or Mac.
But the readme file only has information about Windows, so I'm very suspicious...
Monica
feeling a little guilty about continuing this conversation here...but
then I've ignored many lengthy "tech support" threads in the past :)
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Although the kids have been having fun watching some of the dozens of
> .avi files on there :)
I do that with Software / Games sometimes :-D
>> If there isn't, and there aren't any instructions with the CD, I
>> would wonder whether it's actually a Windows application :-P
>
> I have a bad bad feeling that that is exactly the problem.
>
> But there *are* instructions; they are "Insert CD in drive and click
> on installer icon". The packaging says it's for Windows or Mac; on
> the face of the CD itself it says it's for Windows or Mac.
Hm. Very suspicious.
> Monica
> feeling a little guilty about continuing this conversation here...
> but then I've ignored many lengthy "tech support" threads in the past :)
Guilty? For what? I'd be peeved if some marketting team had decided the
software could work on Mac, when the programmers kinda forgot that bit.
Rowe
Sojourner
the file itself.
Sojo
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Molybdenum wrote:
>
>> Sojourner wrote:
>>
>>> Molybdenum wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hussin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What happened when you tried to install it?
>>>>
>>>> No installer icon.
>>>
>>> Does it 'need' an icon?
>>
>> What else am I gonna click on???
>
> the file itself.
You haven't used a Mac before, have you?
Rowe
Jean B.
>
> Go ahead. Use her name. I also end up recycling a lot of paper after one or
> two lines that weren't perfect according to Yusuf. He's actually drawing
> right now. I wanted to see what he was drawing, but he just told me to go
> away. Lesson: never disturb an artist at work :))
>
when she was in ca third grade. Now she wants to be Atsuko. I
can just imagine all the official things I have to fill out. They
would say Atsuko, who used to be called Leah, whose official name
is Ashley....
Yes, Leah also tells me to go away.... Heard that just now. I
asked if she was working on her magnum opus, since it seemed to be
the beginning of something with chapters.
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
>
> Jean B. wrote:
>
> > Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
> >
> >> Jean B. wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is that a real email addy?
> >>
> >> Yes, although highly spam-guarded.
> >>
> >> You might want to try "tom \at/ staight /dot\ net" :)
> >
> > Okay. I'll send this to myself so I don't forget. My daughter
> > decided she has to draw a new pic, because she believes her old ones
> > are not the best she can do. She is working on it, but I don't know
> > when she'll get it done.
>
> I'm certainly not going to try to rush her! I would be really interested
> to see her work, since while a couple of people I knew used to draw
> manga - they never really got far with it, and I certainly didn't get
> anywhere, since I am not good for anything but sketching. And, well, if
> I can provide some encouragement then I will :)
She's finished it. We'll scan it tomorrow. It is very dark, so I
hope the details show.
>
> >> I started learning conversational Japanese, which is an interesting
> >> thing to attempt.
> <snip>
> >> I need an expert to explain and guide me, I think.
> >
> > I think so. It is to easy to lead oneself astray. She will have a
> > Japanese tutor.
>
> I really should look for one, although I wonder if the costs would be
> prohibitive...
That is a timely question. I think we are on a short financial
leash right now. We do have the material though, so maybe we can
do some work together. I also have my old material (books and
audio tapes), which I thought were quite good.
>
> >> Communications and anything to do with sound, I like. There are
> >> people whose entire jobs are sitting in planes with headphones
> >> listening out for sounds that submarines make. They're usually
> >> stationed around the British or Australian coasts. I found that
> >> interesting.
> >
> > That DOES sound interesting!
>
> If you said that anywhere but here, I'd assume you were being sarcastic,
> but, hey, I just realised I've written that information 2-3 times here
> in the last day or two, so if I can get as excited about that stuff,
> then I wont assume either way about anyone else here yet! :-P
That was not sarcastic. You have to remember I just joined this
group, so everything I am hearing from you and others is new.
>
> >> There are a few things to check out, and I'm looking into them.
> >>
> >> The time is very long, and one can drop out anything up to 6 months
> >> (I think) into the contract before it is binding,
> >
> > That's a good "out". I don't believe there was any such thing when I
> > applied. If there had been, I might have been more comfortable with
> > going in.
>
> Likewise - I would have been VERY reluctant to join if there was no
> period like that, although I am still a little reluctant because of the
> sheer amount of physical stress and persona-moulding (note I said
> persona, because I believe I'll just end up developing "military-acting
> Tom") that happens in the first couple of months. But once you're
> through it - it's clear sailing from there.
Yes, the first part is the problem--here called basic training. I
still have no idea whether I could have survived it. I do know
that I get increasingly ?anxious? if I don't have my unregimented
downtime. Good point about the "military-acting Tom"--sounds akin
to what I did to survive at work.
>
> >> I've been invited to attend a presentation on Monday, which FWICT
> >> no one else at the office today was asked to attend. It lasts 3
> >> hours, but hopefully will not require any interaction from me,
> >> beyond nodding.
> >>
> >> Research is key.
> >
> > You know, I will be very pleased if my daughter is ever as "together"
> > as you are, Rowe! (That is obviously based on only a few days of
> > interaction.)
>
> I manage to sound together, although I'm a lot more so than I have been
> in a long time. I never felt like that at all when I was in school, and
> I'm really glad the whole ordeal is over, to be honest.
I think being able to sound together, and to be together at times,
is important--something my daughter needs to work more on so she
can survive in the world.
--
Jean B.
Molybdenum
>
> Hussin wrote:
> >
> > Go ahead. Use her name. I also end up recycling a lot of paper after one or
> > two lines that weren't perfect according to Yusuf. He's actually drawing
> > right now. I wanted to see what he was drawing, but he just told me to go
> > away. Lesson: never disturb an artist at work :))
> >
> Her name is Leah. Well, sort-of. She changed her name to Leah
> when she was in ca third grade. Now she wants to be Atsuko. I
> can just imagine all the official things I have to fill out. They
> would say Atsuko, who used to be called Leah, whose official name
> is Ashley....
"As a matter of common law you have the right to use any name you want
without legal proceedings of any kind, provided you're not trying to
defraud someone." --Cecil Adams
For more, see http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980828.html
Monica
(provided you are in the U.S.)
Hussin
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
> She's finished it. We'll scan it tomorrow. It is very dark, so I
> hope the details show.
I can't wait to see it! If yusuf lets me have the picture he was drawing
today, I'll scan it and put it on the website...tomorrow. It's late here.
Almsot midnght. Goodnight.
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Her name is Leah. Well, sort-of. She changed her name to Leah when
> she was in ca third grade. Now she wants to be Atsuko. I can just
> imagine all the official things I have to fill out. They would say
> Atsuko, who used to be called Leah, whose official name is Ashley....
>
LOL.
My first name is Allan, but it's a family thing, rather than me wanting
to be called Thomas, which is my second name. "Christened by your second
name? What an unusual thing!" but there we go. Very annoying at the
Doctors and so on.
I'm still negotiating changing my name. At one point I wanted to change
my name to Paul Metcalf, since that's Captain Scarlet's civilian name
;-) but if I don't find something really nifty, then I might go with
Rowe Rickenbacker. Heh.
Names are fun to play with.
Rowe
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>
>>> She will have a Japanese tutor.
>>
>> I really should look for one, although I wonder if the costs would
>> be prohibitive...
>
> That is a timely question. I think we are on a short financial leash
> right now. We do have the material though, so maybe we can do some
> work together. I also have my old material (books and audio tapes),
> which I thought were quite good.
That sounds good.
>>>> Communications and anything to do with sound, I like. There are
>>>> people whose entire jobs are sitting in planes with headphones
>>>> listening out for sounds that submarines make. They're usually
>>>> stationed around the British or Australian coasts. I found
>>>> that interesting.
>>>
>>> That DOES sound interesting!
>>
>> If you said that anywhere but here, I'd assume you were being
>> sarcastic, but, hey, I just realised I've written that information
>> 2-3 times here in the last day or two, so if I can get as excited
>> about that stuff, then I wont assume either way about anyone else
>> here yet! :-P
>
> That was not sarcastic. You have to remember I just joined this
> group, so everything I am hearing from you and others is new.
Sorry - I didn't want to make you think I didn't believe you, just that
I didn't want to write a long serious reply only for you to say "Oops!
I was just kidding!" which happens far too much with me <rolls eyes!>
>>>> The time is very long, and one can drop out anything up to 6
>>>> months (I think) into the contract before it is binding,
>>>
>>> That's a good "out". I don't believe there was any such thing
>>> when I applied. If there had been, I might have been more
>>> comfortable with going in.
>>
>> I would have been VERY reluctant to join if there was no period
>> like that, although I am still a little reluctant because of the
>> sheer amount of physical stress and persona-moulding (note I said
>> persona, because I believe I'll just end up developing
>> "military-acting Tom") that happens in the first couple of months.
>
> Yes, the first part is the problem--here called basic training. I
> still have no idea whether I could have survived it.
Likewise. I think I have something on my side though, since I'm not a
drinker, so while everyone else will be wanting to go out to the pub
and whatnot, I'll be happy to just have a glass of Orange and listen to
my music :) right now I'm listening to the Harry Potter 3 soundtrack,
which I have actually become very fond of (it's an improvement on the
last 2) although I tend to listen to music that's gets me laughed at
less when I'm out and about ;-) but, once again, earphones are good for
privacy.
> I do know that I get increasingly ?anxious? if I don't have my
> unregimented downtime.
Yeah. That's a lot like me too. iPod tends to help with that, since
while I need regular downtimes, for me as long as I've got music in my
ears, my brain's in a completely different "mode" and I think it helps
a lot. I need music a lot more than "alone" times, although I would
say both are good since, A) I can stim, and B) having earphones in
doesn't exactly encourage conversation with your neighbours ;-)
> Good point about the "military-acting Tom"--sounds akin to what I did
> to survive at work.
Yes, very. My thoughts on it are that I wont really change, I'll just
learn how to act around different people etc. I'll learn how to act in
a new environment. But like anything else I learn, it's not something
you do all the time - it's switched on and off. I think my Mum's half
expecting that I'll be all regimented and whatnot when I come back,
but despite things that I learn there that I think would be useful in
my personal life - I really wouldn't see the point in marching round
the house barking "YESSIR!" whenever someone says anything to me :-P
>> I manage to sound together, although I'm a lot more so than I have
>> been in a long time. I never felt like that at all when I was in
>> school, and I'm really glad the whole ordeal is over, to be honest.
>>
>
> I think being able to sound together, and to be together at times, is
> important--something my daughter needs to work more on so she can
> survive in the world.
I don't know if I could survive alone in the world, but I'm considering
travelling before I pursue the RAF further, to make sure I can cope with
all that. FWIR a round the world ticket costs £1000, so I can stop off
at Canada and Japan, and just do random things there, although I haven't
decided on any other destinations as of yet.
Rowe
Molybdenum
>
> Jean B. wrote:
>
> > Her name is Leah. Well, sort-of. She changed her name to Leah when
> > she was in ca third grade. Now she wants to be Atsuko. I can just
> > imagine all the official things I have to fill out. They would say
> > Atsuko, who used to be called Leah, whose official name is Ashley....
> >
> LOL.
>
> My first name is Allan, but it's a family thing, rather than me wanting
> to be called Thomas, which is my second name. "Christened by your second
> name? What an unusual thing!"
Is it really that unusual? I've known several people who are called by
their second names (including my own grandmother).
> but there we go. Very annoying at the
> Doctors and so on.
You need to find more open-minded doctors :)
> I'm still negotiating changing my name. At one point I wanted to change
> my name to Paul Metcalf, since that's Captain Scarlet's civilian name
> ;-) but if I don't find something really nifty, then I might go with
> Rowe Rickenbacker. Heh.
>
> Names are fun to play with.
I'm really attached to my name so I imagine it would feel very strange
to use another. I didn't even change it when I got married.
It was an interesting experience picking out names for my children. They
both have fairly common middle names so they have the option to use
those if they feel later that their first names are too weird. However,
I can't imagine them being called anything other than what I named them...
Monica
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>
>>> Her name is Leah. Well, sort-of. She changed her name to Leah
>>> when she was in ca third grade. Now she wants to be Atsuko. I
>>> can just imagine all the official things I have to fill out.
>>> They would say Atsuko, who used to be called Leah, whose official
>>> name is Ashley....
>>
>> My first name is Allan, but it's a family thing, rather than me
>> wanting to be called Thomas, which is my second name. "Christened
>> by your second name? What an unusual thing!"
>
> Is it really that unusual? I've known several people who are called
> by their second names (including my own grandmother).
Unfortunately yes. Loads of people think I'm going round as some charade
and that I really am called Allan and just chose not to be. Hell, I
didn't really *know* I had a "pre"-name until I was fairly old, since it
just didn't come up. It's not like anyone ever calls you Allan, and if
you're at the Doctors or the Dentist, when you're young, it's your
parents who take care of appointments and whatnot.
I still want to change it, not because of the first-name, but because
it'd be fun AND I'd snip off the first-name in the process ;-)
>> I'm still negotiating changing my name. At one point I wanted to
>> change my name to Paul Metcalf, since that's Captain Scarlet's
>> civilian name ;-) but if I don't find something really nifty, then
>> I might go with Rowe Rickenbacker. Heh.
>>
>> Names are fun to play with.
>
> I'm really attached to my name so I imagine it would feel very
> strange to use another. I didn't even change it when I got married.
I don't know what your surname is, but Monica is a fantastic name, so if
I was called Monica (and possibly looked like one) then I wouldn't
change it. Hell, if I was ME and called Monica, I wouldn't change it
because it'd be too good ;-)
> It was an interesting experience picking out names for my children.
> They both have fairly common middle names so they have the option to
> use those if they feel later that their first names are too weird.
> However, I can't imagine them being called anything other than what I
> named them...
You wait 'til they're teenagers! ;-)
Rowe
the experienced
Molybdenum
>
> I don't know what your surname is, but Monica is a fantastic name, so if
> I was called Monica (and possibly looked like one)
My Grade 10 English teacher told me I "look like a Monica" and then
proceeded to provide a rather flattering description of what a "Monica"
looked like. She was sweet :)
> then I wouldn't
> change it. Hell, if I was ME and called Monica, I wouldn't change it
> because it'd be too good ;-)
You know that song, "A Boy Named Sue"?
Monica
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> I don't know what your surname is, but Monica is a fantastic name,
>> so if I was called Monica (and possibly looked like one)
>
> My Grade 10 English teacher told me I "look like a Monica" and then
> proceeded to provide a rather flattering description of what a
> "Monica" looked like. She was sweet :)
Hehe. What did it include? Can you remember? :)
>> then I wouldn't change it. Hell, if I was ME and called Monica, I
>> wouldn't change it because it'd be too good ;-)
>
> You know that song, "A Boy Named Sue"?
Um... probably. I was subjected to a lot of crap music as a child.
New cause of autism: really really bad childrems music.
Rowe
Molybdenum
>
> Molybdenum wrote:
>
> > Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
> >
> >> I don't know what your surname is, but Monica is a fantastic name,
> >> so if I was called Monica (and possibly looked like one)
> >
> > My Grade 10 English teacher told me I "look like a Monica" and then
> > proceeded to provide a rather flattering description of what a
> > "Monica" looked like. She was sweet :)
>
> Hehe. What did it include? Can you remember? :)
Something about dark, straight hair and a long neck...
I remember the long neck bit particularly, because it had never occurred
to me that I had a long neck :) and all I could think of was a swan (so
bugger the birds).
Funny, today I was out and about and for some reason started noticing
that other people seem to have shorter necks than me...strange that this
would come up twice in one day...
> >> then I wouldn't change it. Hell, if I was ME and called Monica, I
> >> wouldn't change it because it'd be too good ;-)
> >
> > You know that song, "A Boy Named Sue"?
>
> Um... probably. I was subjected to a lot of crap music as a child.
>
> New cause of autism: really really bad childrems music.
It's actually a Johnny Cash song, *definitely* not meant for
children...although I was surprised to learn it was written by Shel
Silverstein, known to me as a children's book author!
Monica
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Molybdenum wrote:
>>
>>> My Grade 10 English teacher told me I "look like a Monica" and
>>> then proceeded to provide a rather flattering description of what
>>> a "Monica" looked like. She was sweet :)
>>
>> Hehe. What did it include? Can you remember? :)
>
> Something about dark, straight hair and a long neck...
Sounds cool. I got a lot of comments about having nice straight hair,
when I had it long. You can't really tell when it's shorter like this :(
> all I could think of was a swan (so bugger the birds).
Swwwwwaaaaaaaaannnnnnnn!
Yes. Bugger the birds.
> today I was out and about and for some reason started noticing that
> other people seem to have shorter necks than me...
I think I have a fairly long neck, but I also think this is due to
whatever reason my fingers are longer, since it was all in proportion
when I was younger, so I'm sure I affected it.
>>>> then I wouldn't change it. Hell, if I was ME and called Monica,
>>>> I wouldn't change it because it'd be too good ;-)
>>>
>>> You know that song, "A Boy Named Sue"?
>>
>> Um... probably.
>
> It's actually a Johnny Cash song
Ah. Probably not then.
> *definitely* not meant for children... although I was surprised to
> learn it was written by Shel Silverstein, known to me as a children's
> book author!
See... they all have to pay the rent somehow.
Rowe
Sojo & Co. Callboys Inc.
Terry Jones
<41142E56...@sympatico.ca>
>I remember the long neck bit particularly, because it had never occurred
>to me that I had a long neck :) and all I could think of was a swan (so
>bugger the birds).
Edith Swan-neck was the (acknowledged) mistress of King Harold (the
one who was killed at the Battle of Hastings). Apparently she
identified & collected his body after the battle.
Terry
Molybdenum
Well that's an interesting tidbit :)
I hope I haven't lead anybody to think I have a freakishly long neck or anything...
Monica
hasting out of here
Molybdenum
Sigh. I *do* know the difference between "led" and "lead".
I just felt compelled to make that clear :\
Brain fart, I guess.
Monica
Nightingale
Jean B. wrote:
>
> You know, I will be very pleased if my daughter is ever as
> "together" as you are, Rowe! (That is obviously based on only a
> few days of interaction.)
He's pretty together - certainly more than I was at his age.
--
The better the voyce is, the meeter it is to honour and
serve God there-with: and the voyce of man is chiefely
to be imployed to that ende.
Omnis spiritus laudet Dominum.
-William Byrd
Nightingale
Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
> Jean B. wrote:
>
>> Her name is Leah. Well, sort-of. She changed her name to Leah when
>> she was in ca third grade. Now she wants to be Atsuko. I can just
>> imagine all the official things I have to fill out. They would say
>> Atsuko, who used to be called Leah, whose official name is Ashley....
>>
> LOL.
>
> My first name is Allan, but it's a family thing, rather than me wanting
> to be called Thomas, which is my second name. "Christened by your second
> name? What an unusual thing!" but there we go. Very annoying at the
> Doctors and so on.
>
Not that unusual - my brother, dad, grandfather & one of my cousins all
use(d) their middle names.
Nightingale
Molybdenum wrote:
>
> Sigh. I *do* know the difference between "led" and "lead".
>
> I just felt compelled to make that clear :\
>
> Brain fart, I guess.
>
LOL! That's the kind of thing that spell check can't help with, and I
always miss things when I'm proofreading. Somebody on r.m.c said it's
part of my charm after I let "In you opinion" get by :-(
Nightingale
Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>
> Yeah. That's a lot like me too. iPod tends to help with that, since
> while I need regular downtimes, for me as long as I've got music in my
> ears, my brain's in a completely different "mode" and I think it helps
> a lot. I need music a lot more than "alone" times,
I could not live without both.
> although I would
> say both are good since, A) I can stim, and B) having earphones in
> doesn't exactly encourage conversation with your neighbours ;-)
Headphones are a good "Do not disturb" sign when you are on the bus. I
have worn them even when my batteries had run out because people are
less likely to try and talk (& it's easy to pretend I didn't hear if
they do). I'm amazed at the way some people will sit down beside me &
want to start chatting even when I'm obviously busy with something else
like reading or homework.
Jean B.
> LOL.
>
> My first name is Allan, but it's a family thing, rather than me wanting
> to be called Thomas, which is my second name. "Christened by your second
> name? What an unusual thing!" but there we go. Very annoying at the
> Doctors and so on.
>
> I'm still negotiating changing my name. At one point I wanted to change
> my name to Paul Metcalf, since that's Captain Scarlet's civilian name
> ;-) but if I don't find something really nifty, then I might go with
> Rowe Rickenbacker. Heh.
>
> Names are fun to play with.
>
> Rowe
And here I'd thought I'd figured out what your name was. LOL!
Leah went through a period when she was changing her name very
frequently. She ALWAYS hated "the Ashley name"--and frankly, by
the time she was born, I had my regrets. In the time between I
decided on the name and then I learned it was VERY popular! Ugh.
Here I was thinking it was pretty unique for a girl--my picking it
having been based on a) the last name of one of my childhood
friends and b) the name in "Gone with the Wind". But I only
thought that because I was so cut off from folks.
Anyway, I figured if she settled on a name and didn't keep
changing it, we would make it official. BUT then I realized all
of her old school record are under "Ashley", and that might be a
mess. Now, anyway, after ca 5 years of being Leah, I think she
would prefer to be Atsuko.
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
>
> Jean B. wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, the first part is the problem--here called basic training. I
> > still have no idea whether I could have survived it.
>
> Likewise. I think I have something on my side though, since I'm not a
> drinker, so while everyone else will be wanting to go out to the pub
> and whatnot, I'll be happy to just have a glass of Orange and listen to
> my music :) right now I'm listening to the Harry Potter 3 soundtrack,
> which I have actually become very fond of (it's an improvement on the
> last 2) although I tend to listen to music that's gets me laughed at
> less when I'm out and about ;-) but, once again, earphones are good for
> privacy.
I have very strange taste in music and only like music I am in
control of. I prefer to be able to make the perfect segues from
one thing to another.
>
> > I do know that I get increasingly ?anxious? if I don't have my
> > unregimented downtime.
>
> Yeah. That's a lot like me too. iPod tends to help with that, since
> while I need regular downtimes, for me as long as I've got music in my
> ears, my brain's in a completely different "mode" and I think it helps
> a lot. I need music a lot more than "alone" times, although I would
> say both are good since, A) I can stim, and B) having earphones in
> doesn't exactly encourage conversation with your neighbours ;-)
Having music function like that would be useful. Unfortunately,
it doesn't have the same effect with me.
>
> > Good point about the "military-acting Tom"--sounds akin to what I did
> > to survive at work.
>
> Yes, very. My thoughts on it are that I wont really change, I'll just
> learn how to act around different people etc. I'll learn how to act in
> a new environment. But like anything else I learn, it's not something
> you do all the time - it's switched on and off. I think my Mum's half
> expecting that I'll be all regimented and whatnot when I come back,
> but despite things that I learn there that I think would be useful in
> my personal life - I really wouldn't see the point in marching round
> the house barking "YESSIR!" whenever someone says anything to me :-P
I'm afraid it would be hard for me to see the point of doing that
in the military--or if I did see the point (and I guess I can), I
would find it impossible to do that for more than one nanosecond.
Maybe if I looked at it as a game or something.
>
> >> I manage to sound together, although I'm a lot more so than I have
> >> been in a long time. I never felt like that at all when I was in
> >> school, and I'm really glad the whole ordeal is over, to be honest.
> >>
> >
> > I think being able to sound together, and to be together at times, is
> > important--something my daughter needs to work more on so she can
> > survive in the world.
>
> I don't know if I could survive alone in the world, but I'm considering
> travelling before I pursue the RAF further, to make sure I can cope with
> all that. FWIR a round the world ticket costs £1000, so I can stop off
> at Canada and Japan, and just do random things there, although I haven't
> decided on any other destinations as of yet.
I have survived alone. At times, I have found it a lot easier
than being with someone. But I have conflicting desires. I don't
like the thought of growing old alone (not speaking of Leah here),
but it is so hard for me to be with someone--unless there is some
way I can have a lot of space.
I have even travelled alone, but I find that thought very
offputting now. I hope you can do it and it works out well.
--
Jean B.
Hussin
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>
>>> Her name is Leah. Well, sort-of. She changed her name to Leah when
>>> she was in ca third grade. Now she wants to be Atsuko. I can just
>>> imagine all the official things I have to fill out. They would say
>>> Atsuko, who used to be called Leah, whose official name is
>>> Ashley....
>>>
>> LOL.
>>
>> My first name is Allan, but it's a family thing, rather than me
>> wanting to be called Thomas, which is my second name. "Christened by
>> your second name? What an unusual thing!" but there we go. Very
>> annoying at the Doctors and so on.
>>
>
> Not that unusual - my brother, dad, grandfather & one of my cousins
> all use(d) their middle names.
So does my daughter. Her name is Siti sarah. Siti literally means Miss. in
Indonesian. So her name is Miss. Sarah and she goes by Sarah.
Jean B.
>
> Molybdenum wrote:
> >
> > Sigh. I *do* know the difference between "led" and "lead".
> >
> > I just felt compelled to make that clear :\
> >
> > Brain fart, I guess.
> >
>
> LOL! That's the kind of thing that spell check can't help with, and I
> always miss things when I'm proofreading. Somebody on r.m.c said it's
> part of my charm after I let "In you opinion" get by :-(
>
That being said, I find my posts and emails full of typos and
wordos that would be very embarrassing if they weren't so funny.
I have no idea how I a) manage to generate them, and b) don't
catch them. BUT I am sort-of comfortable with not being able to
catch things on the screen, and I also am more interested in
conveying ideas than in being perfect. I view this as being like
a casual conversation.
The laughs caused by our errors are good for us. I am still
practically LOL when I think of how one of my online friends wrote
someone was "peeing over [her] shoulder" instead of "peeking over
]her] shoulder".
*Actually, I find proofreading (with the latitude to make
editorial changes) pretty stressfree--if there is an editor to run
interference. I don't like being in charge of my own projects.
--
Jean B.
Nightingale
Jean B. wrote:
> Nightingale wrote:
>
>>Molybdenum wrote:
>>
>>>Sigh. I *do* know the difference between "led" and "lead".
>>>
>>>I just felt compelled to make that clear :\
>>>
>>>Brain fart, I guess.
>>>
>>
>>LOL! That's the kind of thing that spell check can't help with, and I
>>always miss things when I'm proofreading. Somebody on r.m.c said it's
>>part of my charm after I let "In you opinion" get by :-(
>>
>
> Ahem! I was an editor, and my favorite thing was proofreading.*
> That being said, I find my posts and emails full of typos and
> wordos that would be very embarrassing if they weren't so funny.
Sometimes mine are funny, sometimes just embarrassing.
> I have no idea how I a) manage to generate them, and b) don't
> catch them. BUT I am sort-of comfortable with not being able to
> catch things on the screen, and I also am more interested in
> conveying ideas than in being perfect. I view this as being like
> a casual conversation.
I'm equally bad on paper, and my school assignments always have typos in
them. I do try, and am better than I used to be, but I always make a
lot of errors & don't manage to catch them all. It's worse if I'm tired
or upset about something.
>
> The laughs caused by our errors are good for us. I am still
> practically LOL when I think of how one of my online friends wrote
> someone was "peeing over [her] shoulder" instead of "peeking over
> ]her] shoulder".
My funniest was Mr. Purple. In a follow-up email I sent an altered jpeg
to go with the name. More recently, I made a post in a thread about
tone deafness, but got it wrong & said "tone death". (Not to far off
though - I think not being able to hear music properly would be almost
as bad as death.)
>
> *Actually, I find proofreading (with the latitude to make
> editorial changes) pretty stressfree--if there is an editor to run
> interference. I don't like being in charge of my own projects.
>
--
Chris Croughton
<cn...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Terry Jones wrote:
>>
>> Molybdenum <cn...@sympatico.ca> Fri, 06 Aug 2004 21:20:22 -0400
>> <41142E56...@sympatico.ca>
>>
>> >I remember the long neck bit particularly, because it had never occurred
>> >to me that I had a long neck :) and all I could think of was a swan (so
>> >bugger the birds).
>>
>> Edith Swan-neck was the (acknowledged) mistress of King Harold (the
>> one who was killed at the Battle of Hastings). Apparently she
>> identified & collected his body after the battle.
>
> Well that's an interesting tidbit :)
It is indeed, one I hadn't heard. The things one learns on Usenet
<g>...
> I hope I haven't lead anybody to think I have a freakishly long neck
> or anything...
My aesthetic preference is for women with long slim necks. I hadn't
realised it until about 10 or so years ago, but it seems to be one of
my main recognition points (I abstract very little visual data for
recognition, most of it not very useful like hair and clothes colour).
With men I seem to go more with body build and height than on facial
characteristics.
> Monica
> hasting out of here
That Brighton's up my day...
Chris C
enigma
news:2nlc01F...@uni-berlin.de:
> post in a thread about tone deafness, but got it wrong &
> said "tone death". (Not to far off though - I think not
> being able to hear music properly would be almost as bad as
> death.)
i'm tone death. constant recurring ear infections <sigh>. i
wanted *so* badly to play fiddle, but i cannot tune a string
instrument & since the violin is fretless, you need to be able
to hear the sound to know if your finger placement is correct.
i'm somewhat better on guitar, as long as someone else tunes
it for me first :-/
due to various mishaps in my life i have been temporarily
blind, deaf & unable to feel (not all at once, thankfully!)...
if given a choice, i'd pick blindness as the easiest one for
me to work around, but i'd really miss sunrises & sunsets.
>
lee <currently having bad tintinitus>
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Terry Jones wrote:
>
>> Molybdenum wrote:
>>
>>> a swan (so bugger the birds).
>
> I hope I haven't lead anybody to think I have a freakishly long neck
> or anything...
You'll obviously have to take a picture to prove it to us, wont you? :)
Rowe
Rowe Rickenbacker
> I just felt compelled to make that clear :\
>
> Brain fart, I guess.
Pffffrrrrt!
In one ear and out the other, eh?
Rowe
Rowe Rickenbacker
> I have very strange taste in music and only like music I am in
> control of. I prefer to be able to make the perfect segues from one
> thing to another.
I control the music in the car. Not just choosing which album is on - I
have a 40gb iPod (currently a quarter full with 5.8 days worth of music
on it) and have a tape-adaptor into the car-stereo, so I then choose
each track individually while we're driving and then react to the others
reactions to the songs to play a set like a DJ of some sort :)
A bad DJ, maybe, but I like to choose the songs and get those
transitions right. No crappy anchors or links either.
> Having music function like that would be useful. Unfortunately, it
> doesn't have the same effect with me.
>
>> I wont really change, I'll just learn how to act around different
>> people etc. I'll learn how to act in a new environment. But like
>> anything else I learn, it's not something you do all the time -
>> it's switched on and off.
>
> I'm afraid it would be hard for me to see the point of doing that in
> the military--or if I did see the point (and I guess I can), I would
> find it impossible to do that for more than one nanosecond. Maybe if
> I looked at it as a game or something.
Well, I would be able to do it, I think, but I need my music (also
meaning "I need a power supply") since, to me, music is more alone than
being alone, since you can make a bubble / forcefield around you filled
with any emotion / atmosphere / whatever you want. It's like virtual
reality without the suits or wires.
It's my escapism, I guess. I'm not sure if I'd ever feel properly alone
on top of the Himalayas or in the Sahara, unless I had some music with
me. If I start getting overloaded - music starts playing in my head,
getting more and more repetitive the more overloaded I am. Helps stim,
and tapping / rocking along is optional but helps.
>>> I think being able to sound together, and to be together at
>>> times, is important--something my daughter needs to work more on
>>> so she can survive in the world.
>>
>> I don't know if I could survive alone in the world, but I'm
>> considering travelling before I pursue the RAF further, to make
>> sure I can cope with all that. FWIR a round the world ticket costs
>> £1000, so I can stop off at Canada and Japan, and just do random
>> things there, although I haven't decided on any other destinations
>> as of yet.
>
> I have survived alone. At times, I have found it a lot easier than
> being with someone. But I have conflicting desires.
Me too.
> I don't like the thought of growing old alone
Me too.
> (not speaking of Leah here), but it is so hard for me to be with
> someone--unless there is some way I can have a lot of space.
Yeah, I'm having that problem at the moment. I think I want someone who
realises and understands when I need to be alone for a bit. I'm also
having some problems with unforcastable libido, which kinda ruins
relationships since I'm all kinda flirty and then it kinda dies, and
then maybe comes back later on. Maybe hormonal - maybe just weird me.
> I have even travelled alone, but I find that thought very offputting
> now.
Me too... well, it challenges my desire to travel, which is very strong,
but my will is also strong, so I can usually force myself to do
something, forsaking all else.
> I hope you can do it and it works out well.
Me too.
Rowe
Jean B.
May I add one thing? This is sort-of blasphenous, but after years
of working as an editor, I came to the conclusion that the
thoughts are more important than spelling or grammatical errors.
(I doubt teachers/professors will agree with me, but that
sometimes makes me a bit mad.) I think it's important that
numbers be correct and that writing is unambiguous, but it can be
somewhat superficial to focus on the fact that someone makes typos
and other little errors.
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
> Jean B. wrote:
> I control the music in the car. Not just choosing which album is on - I
> have a 40gb iPod (currently a quarter full with 5.8 days worth of music
> on it) and have a tape-adaptor into the car-stereo, so I then choose
> each track individually while we're driving and then react to the others
> reactions to the songs to play a set like a DJ of some sort :)
>
> A bad DJ, maybe, but I like to choose the songs and get those
> transitions right. No crappy anchors or links either.
Yup, that's like me. Interestingly, I listen to talk radio/news,
but I generally do not like to listen to music on the radio.
>[snip]
>
> Well, I would be able to do it, I think, but I need my music (also
> meaning "I need a power supply") since, to me, music is more alone than
> being alone, since you can make a bubble / forcefield around you filled
> with any emotion / atmosphere / whatever you want. It's like virtual
> reality without the suits or wires.
>
> It's my escapism, I guess. I'm not sure if I'd ever feel properly alone
> on top of the Himalayas or in the Sahara, unless I had some music with
> me. If I start getting overloaded - music starts playing in my head,
> getting more and more repetitive the more overloaded I am. Helps stim,
> and tapping / rocking along is optional but helps.
So would the music playing in your head suffice? When would you
be able to put on your headphones in the RAF? Have you asked
that? I don't know how regimented EVERYTHING might be in the
beginning.
> >
> > I have survived alone. At times, I have found it a lot easier than
> > being with someone. But I have conflicting desires.
>
> Me too.
>
> > I don't like the thought of growing old alone
>
> Me too.
>
> > (not speaking of Leah here), but it is so hard for me to be with
> > someone--unless there is some way I can have a lot of space.
>
> Yeah, I'm having that problem at the moment. I think I want someone who
> realises and understands when I need to be alone for a bit. I'm also
> having some problems with unforcastable libido, which kinda ruins
> relationships since I'm all kinda flirty and then it kinda dies, and
> then maybe comes back later on. Maybe hormonal - maybe just weird me.
>
Lots of people have their idiosyncracies. It's too easy to
imagine everyone else functions perfectly in this regard. Anyway,
the less you think about this, the better. I find such thing can
become a self-fulfilling prophecy....
> > I have even travelled alone, but I find that thought very offputting
> > now.
>
> Me too... well, it challenges my desire to travel, which is very strong,
> but my will is also strong, so I can usually force myself to do
> something, forsaking all else.
That is good. Very good. Makes me think you can and will do
this, Rowe.
--
Jean B.
Nightingale
Jean B. wrote:
>
> May I add one thing? This is sort-of blasphenous, but after years
> of working as an editor, I came to the conclusion that the
> thoughts are more important than spelling or grammatical errors.
> (I doubt teachers/professors will agree with me, but that
> sometimes makes me a bit mad.)
One of the big problems I had in highschool and college is that teachers
don't agree with you, and I had papers failed just on the basis of
having too many spelling errors. (This was back before the days of
typing everything & running spell-check, which I depend on.) One of the
main reasons my previous courses were math & accounting was that I did
not have to write much.
I did very well in "Musics and Cultures", in large part because I got
assigned to a tutorial section lead by somebody who did care far more
about ideas & organization, and didn't comment much on my many
proofreading errors - the only ones that I lost marks for were where it
was bad enough that my meaning was not clear. He marked all the tests &
three out of four assignments - the one assignment that was marked by
the professor received a much lower grade than the things he marked. I
hope I am as lucky with future teachers.
> I think it's important that
> numbers be correct and that writing is unambiguous, but it can be
> somewhat superficial to focus on the fact that someone makes typos
> and other little errors.
>
--
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Jean B. wrote:
>>
>> A bad DJ, maybe, but I like to choose the songs and get those
>> transitions right. No crappy anchors or links either.
>
> Yup, that's like me. Interestingly, I listen to talk radio/news, but
> I generally do not like to listen to music on the radio.
Likewise, especially since some of the music can be downright awful, and
you can always skip music you play yourself...
>> Well, I would be able to do it, I think, but I need my music (also
>> meaning "I need a power supply") since, to me, music is more alone
>> than being alone, since you can make a bubble / forcefield around
>> you filled with any emotion / atmosphere / whatever you want. It's
>> like virtual reality without the suits or wires.
>>
>> It's my escapism, I guess. I'm not sure if I'd ever feel properly
>> alone on top of the Himalayas or in the Sahara, unless I had some
>> music with me. If I start getting overloaded - music starts playing
>> in my head, getting more and more repetitive the more overloaded I
>> am. Helps stim, and tapping / rocking along is optional but helps.
>>
>
> So would the music playing in your head suffice?
Temporarily. It's slowing down the effect, rather than avoiding or
reversing it, though. Concentrating on which note comes next, or
whatever, is more taxing than just turning the music on and blanking out
the world for a little while.
> When would you be able to put on your headphones in the RAF?
In free time and at night, I assume. I use in-ear phones, rather than
big headphones, so it would not be intrusive to have some music on in
the morning while I dress, or in the evening after dinner, for example.
It would be reckless to even consider wearing them on duty, since even
when being a cleaner, you should be alert at all times.
> Have you asked that?
No, and I don't plan to. On one hand, we will have most weekends off
during training, and nearly every weekend off after training has
finished, so I would have chance then, but unless there was no access to
power in the mess, then I would be suprised if it wasn't allowed.
> I don't know how regimented EVERYTHING might be in the beginning.
It certainly is during the day, and at the start, when everyone's
sharing rooms, you need to keep the place tidy, and clean the toilets
and everything else. But, still, music is quiet and unintrusive, as long
as it's not blaring out of speakers (which I find less effective than
earphones for my own purposes, anyway) should be fine.
>>> I have even travelled alone, but I find that thought very
>>> offputting now.
>>
>> Me too... well, it challenges my desire to travel, which is very
>> strong, but my will is also strong, so I can usually force myself
>> to do something, forsaking all else.
>
> That is good. Very good. Makes me think you can and will do this,
> Rowe.
Thanks. I hope so, although from what I've heard, it can be damaging to
force yourself to do things when it's tough like that, but I know that I
would enjoy the experience and look back on the things I enjoyed, rather
than overloading or whatever might happen. There are so many things I
want to achieve, and while I know it might not be possible to achieve
them all - I know I wouldn't achieve any if I didn't push myself out of
the comfort zone a bit sometimes.
Have faith, that's all it is...
Rowe
Molybdenum
My husband told me yesterday I look like a cross between Lynda Carter
and Diana Rigg!
I don't believe him though, and neither should you.
Monica
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Molybdenum wrote:
>>
>>> I hope I haven't lead anybody to think I have a freakishly long
>>> neck or anything...
>
> My husband told me yesterday I look like a cross between Lynda Carter
> and Diana Rigg!
>
> I don't believe him though, and neither should you.
It's ok - I don't :-P
Rowe
was told the other day that he looks like the guy who
married a pornstar whose name he can't remember... if
anyone knows pornstars - the guy's name began with D.
Chris Croughton
Now we /really/ need photos <g>...
Chris C
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Molybdenum wrote:
>
>> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>>
>>> Molybdenum wrote:
>>>
<snip>
>>>> I have a freakishly long neck
<snip>
>>>
>>> You'll obviously have to take a picture to prove it to us, wont
>>> you? :)
>>
>> My husband told me yesterday I look like a cross between Lynda
>> Carter and Diana Rigg!
>
> Now we /really/ need photos <g>...
LOL!
Can't argue with that.
Rowe
Molybdenum
>
> Rowe
> was told the other day that he looks like the guy who
> married a pornstar whose name he can't remember... if
> anyone knows pornstars - the guy's name began with D.
Do you mean Jeff Koons?
D...J...K...whatever :)
Monica
Molybdenum
Uh, yeah. I guess it's gonna have to be one helluva photo to live up to
that description...
Monica
betting nobody sees a resemblance :)
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>
>> Rowe was told the other day that he looks like the guy who
>> married a pornstar whose name he can't remember...
>> if anyone knows pornstars - the guy's name began with D.
>
> Do you mean Jeff Koons?
No.
> D...J...K...whatever :)
If you're dyslexic... :-P
Rowe
Molybdenum
You mean someone else married a porn star???
Monica
disillusioned
Rowe Rickenbacker
Next thing you know, someone will have married Johnny Depp,
or Sean Connery... (or both?)
Rowe
Molybdenum
Hasn't somebody already?
Monica
Catriona R
<use...@templeofdreams.net> wrote:
>Molybdenum wrote:
>
>> Rowe Rickenbacker wrote:
>>
>>> Molybdenum wrote:
>>>> You know that song, "A Boy Named Sue"?
>>>
>>> Um... probably.
>>
>> It's actually a Johnny Cash song
>
>Ah. Probably not then.
I'd recommend it - fantastic song, really funny lyrics. All of Cash's
songs that I know are good, but that's one of the best, IMHO.
--
Catriona (20, AS)
"I'm not nuts; I'm condiments - I got promoted!"
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Catriona R
>May I add one thing? This is sort-of blasphenous, but after years
>of working as an editor, I came to the conclusion that the
>thoughts are more important than spelling or grammatical errors.
>(I doubt teachers/professors will agree with me, but that
>sometimes makes me a bit mad.) I think it's important that
>numbers be correct and that writing is unambiguous, but it can be
>somewhat superficial to focus on the fact that someone makes typos
>and other little errors.
I understand your thoughts there, but have to admit to being *very*
picky about grammar personally - reading something with lots of bad
grammar/spelling mistakes to me is almost like hearing a song being
sung out of tune - the out of tune song hurts my ears, and bad grammar
hurts my mind ;-)
I'm not overly picky about simple errors, particularly with people who
speak English as a second language (trying to learn German has shown
me that it's not at all easy to get a foreign language right), or with
dyslexia or similar issues, as I appreciate it's not easy for
everyone, but I've always found it's possible to tell the difference
between people who really *can't* get it right for whatever reason,
and people who just can't be bothered trying, or who rush things
without checking them, and the second category really irritates me.
Oh, and text message language or "l337 sp33k" is a mutilation of our
language which should be banned and never allowed to resurface again,
in my opinion! ;-)
Gareeth
"Catriona R" <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Oh, and text message language or "l337 sp33k" is a mutilation of our
> language which should be banned and never allowed to resurface again,
> in my opinion! ;-)
Spoken like a good young fogey ;-0
Gareeth
Chris Croughton
<catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
> I understand your thoughts there, but have to admit to being *very*
> picky about grammar personally - reading something with lots of bad
> grammar/spelling mistakes to me is almost like hearing a song being
> sung out of tune - the out of tune song hurts my ears, and bad grammar
> hurts my mind ;-)
I'm picky because my input parser is not very good, so I get confused
easily with bad grammar (and things like trailing prepositions and
pronouns without refferents). Also, because I read fast I need the
words to be correct, if they aren't (typos, etc.) I have to go back and
re-read them so I tend to notice any errors. The effect is that I
basically 'proof-read' almost everything I see.
That's different to an extent with things I've typed, because there I
know what I meant to write and don't see what I actually wrote (I get
really annoyed when I see some stupid error coming back!).
> I'm not overly picky about simple errors, particularly with people who
> speak English as a second language (trying to learn German has shown
> me that it's not at all easy to get a foreign language right),
Heh. I lived in Germany for three years, and when in another order the
words are it difficult is, no? <g> I love the way that in German you
can form compound words, though.
> or with dyslexia or similar issues, as I appreciate it's not easy for
> everyone, but I've always found it's possible to tell the difference
> between people who really *can't* get it right for whatever reason,
> and people who just can't be bothered trying, or who rush things
> without checking them, and the second category really irritates me.
I will (and do) make allowances for 'casual' writing, like on Usenet or
email, because I don't expect people to take the same time over it as
they would with a business letter. People who know better and don't
bother, though, tend to annoy me as well, if I have to struggle to
understand what they write then I may not bother at all.
> Oh, and text message language or "l337 sp33k" is a mutilation of our
> language which should be banned and never allowed to resurface again,
> in my opinion! ;-)
Grrr. Yes, we hates it preciousss, yesss, we hatesss it!
Chris C