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Feb 26, 2005, 7:44:06 PM2/26/05
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Tag you're it! Since I can't seem to catch you anywhere else....
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The autist formerly known as

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OK what is Ivor de Wofles real name, and what did he win in what year ?

What did he belong to, and what has that got to do with James Bond and
Warwick University ?


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L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"


The autist formerly known as

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dobey the elf

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The autist formerly known as wrote:
> OK what is Ivor de Wofles real name, and what did he win in what year
?
>
> What did he belong to, and what has that got to do with James Bond
and
> Warwick University ?

Okay I'll try but I'm having stomach cramps at the moment so I don't
know if I can do it tonight or not?
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dobey the elf

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The autist formerly known as wrote:
> OK what is Ivor de Wofles real name, and what did he win in what year
?
>
> What did he belong to, and what has that got to do with James Bond
and
> Warwick University ?
>

hey Civilia is on sale at Amazon but no one has reviewed it. Why dont'
you be the first person to review it?
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dobey the elf

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The autist formerly known as wrote:
> OK what is Ivor de Wofles real name, and what did he win in what year
?
>
> What did he belong to, and what has that got to do with James Bond
and
> Warwick University ?
>

I got half of it. I got the award and his real name. Still don't
understand James Bond and Warwick yet.
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dobey the elf

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The autist formerly known as wrote:
> OK what is Ivor de Wofles real name, and what did he win in what year
?
>
> What did he belong to, and what has that got to do with James Bond
and
> Warwick University ?

That question is a bit more complicated than it looked. I think you
meant Oxford University?

If so the answer is this:

Ivor de Wolfe's real name is Hubert de Cronin Hastings, a leading
writer of the Architectural Review. He won the Royal Gold Medal for the
promotion of Architecture, a tradition that has been awarded ever year
since 1848. H. d. C. Hastings also was the designer of Oxford
University. And at Oxford University they have a traditions old Golfing
Club called Huntercombe, and the club served in a scene of Goldfinger
where he is going to drill James Bond with a laser.

And here is how I arrived at these conclusions.

(they were all found via google. Please tell Morris that...)


1986: Hubert (de Cronin) HASTINGS (&ps: Ivor de WOLFE; Ivy de WOLFE)
www.kingkong.demon.co.uk/aa/dec3.htm

"As the President has said, the Royal Gold Medal is recognised as the
most coveted architectural award in the world - a real, golden status.

Perhaps because it has such a long history, having first been awarded
in 1848....
It is salutary to list the Royal Gold Medallists of the years from 1961
to 1972 - Archigram's formative years: Lewis Mumford, Sven Markelius,
Lord Holford,
Fry, Kenzo Tange, Ove Arup, Sir Nikolaus Pevsner, Buckminster Fuller,
Jack Coia, Sir Robert Matthew, Hubert de Cronin Hastings, Louis Kahn.
www.architecture.com/go/ Architecture/Also/Awards_311.html

" The Royal Gold Medal for the promotion of Architecture, instituted by
Her Majesty
Queen Victoria in 1848, is conferred annually by the Sovereign on some
distinguished
architect, or group of architects, for workof high merit, or on some
distinguished
person or group whose workhas promoted either directly or indirectly
the
advancement of architecture"
www.architecture.com/fileLibrary/pdf/RG.pdf


" A quarter of a century ago, Hubert de Cronin Hastings published
Civilia, a book that showed how it would be perfectly, and
romantically, feasible to build a contemporary version of an Italian
hill-town on a waste-tip near Nuneaton. The idea was to demonstrate how
even the land-gobbling Brits could build cities that were ecologically
sound and a delight to live in. Civilia was an idea that came a little
too early, perhaps, in a Britain still obsessed with suburban-style
development;"
society.guardian.co.uk/regeneration/ story/0,7940,515827,00.html

Architecture
17, Selsdon Road. London. E11. 2QF. ENGLAND. THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
Ed. JM RICHARDS,
N PEVSNER, H de C HASTINGS & H CASSON. Nos 715-786. Aug 1956-Aug 1962.
...
www.idedrich.co.uk/Catalogues/ Illustrated/architecture.htm

eye | feature
... Peter Baistow behaved as though they were the British embodiment of
Life magazine,
driven on by the Review's Directing Editor and part-owner H. de C.
Hastings ...
www.eyemagazine.co.uk/feature.php?id=119&fid=517

AMATAS - Workshop - Cultural Landscape in the 1950s
... a special edition 'Man Made America' in which its editors (JM
Richards, Nicholas
Pevsner, Ian McCallum, Osbert Lancaster and H. de C. Hastings) stated
their ...
www.uclan.ac.uk/amatas/workshop/campbell2.htm

In 1950 the Architectural Review published a special edition 'Man Made
America' in which its editors (J.M. Richards, Nicholas Pevsner, Ian
McCallum, Osbert Lancaster and H. de C. Hastings) stated their aim was
to 'examine the American scene' with certain 'misgivings' about what
America was doing to its landscapes
www.uclan.ac.uk/amatas/workshop/campbell2.htm

Plans, planners and city images: place promotion and civic ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
... noticeably more active than any other consultant (Table 3). His
commission to produce
the plan for Oxford was described by H. de Cronin Hastings of the ...
journals.cambridge.org/article_S0963926803001123

****If you meant Oxford University and not Warwick University, then
that is a match.

"The return to Victoriana and pub preservation had its unlikely roots
at the Architectural Review. At the end of the Forties the editor, H.
De Cronin-Hastings, was trawling London skips for Victorian pub
fittings; by 1951 he had launched a competition for the Public House of
Tomorrow, which resulted in a Festival of Britain exhibition at the
Victoria and Albert Museum"
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,585-1490691,00.html

MARS Group [Modern Architectural Research Group].
Organization of British architects, designers, engineers and
journalists that was started in 1933 and dissolved in 1957. The MARS
Group formed the British section of the CIAM and was established by
Wells Coates with the architects E. Maxwell Fry and David
Pleydell-Bouverie and the critics Philip Morton Shand, Hubert de Cronin
Hastings and John Gloag. Its initial membership, mostly young
architects with little experience of building, included the partners of
Connell Ward and Lucas, and Tecton; the writers John Betjeman and James
Richards; and Ove Arup. With c. 24 members by 1934, it grew to a peak
of 120 by 1938, but the group was most significant in policy-making
within the CIAM during the 1950s.
https://www.artnet.com/library/05/0545/T054574.ASP

PDF] Modernism and reconstruction: architects, networks and plans
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
... CIAM) and its British affiliates in the Modern Architectural
Research (MARS) Group. ...
Goldfinger and the villainous megalomaniac who Ian Fleming made into
James ...
taylorandfrancis.metapress.com/ index/93CG52CWWT6T8D08.pdf

The character of Goldfinger is based on a MARS group person?

Papers of Ian Fleming:
http://www.nra.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/pidocs.asp?P=P36019

The University of Warwick
University of Warwick website.
www.warwick.ac.uk/

" The establishment of the University of Warwick was given approval by
the government in 1961 and received its Royal Charter of Incorporation
in 1965. It is situated on a large 700 acre campus which straddles the
boundary between the City of Coventry and the County of Warwickshire.
The idea for a university in Coventry was mooted shortly after the
conclusion of the Second World War but it was a bold and imaginative
partnership of the City and the County which brought the University
into being on a 400 acre site jointly granted by the two authorities.
Since then, the University has incorporated the former Coventry College
of Education in 1979 and has extended its land holdings by the purchase
of adjoining farm land.
The University initially admitted a small intake of graduate students
in 1964..."
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/about/history/

Its Oxford University!!!

" OXFORD GOLFERS ARE renowned for playing in all weathers, and a hard
frost did not prevent play starting on time last weekend when the Blues
were inauspiciously defeated by Huntercombe. It did, however, cause
some problems on the greens, particularly for the duo of Jon Sharples
and Harry Westall, who lost their ball when it lay just six feet from
the hole.
The pair, displaying the intellect Oxford students are renowned
for, marked their ball with a white marker, and having failed to refind
it on the frost covered green within the allowed five minutes, declared
the ball lost and forfeited the hole. Norris McWhirter was seen
interviewing the pair afterwards.
Nevertheless, they ran out easy 4-3 winners, and with Rob Mann and
Rob Simpson winning the last five holes of their match to turn almost
certain defeat into victory, the scores were tied 2-2 going into lunch.

Huntercombe is the home club of spy James Bond, and was accurately
described by his adversary Goldfinger as "a pleasant little
course." Playing foursomes again in the afternoon left as much room
for manouevre for both sides as Mr Bond had when strapped to Auric's
laser table, and Huntercombe looked to be carrying out their own
Operation Grand Slam when they took two early matches."
www.earth.ox.ac.uk/~roberts/OUGC.htm

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The autist formerly known as

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Feb 26, 2005, 11:58:00 PM2/26/05
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Not bad but you should have googled for other members of the MARS group

namely Yorke Rosenburg and Mardall who designed the first stages of Warwick
University,
and Erno Goldfinger, architecht of the Trellick Tower in London,

Now tell me this, what is the stone that is quarried in Nuneaton, the site
of the projected Civilia ?


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L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"

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Its Oxford University!!!

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Hylander

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Feb 27, 2005, 3:43:34 AM2/27/05
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sam ende wrote:

> dobey the elf wrote:
>
>
> > I got half of it. I got the award and his real name. Still don't
> > understand James Bond and Warwick yet.
>
> yes, i got that far as well; Hubert de Cronin Hastings,
> Citation for Royal Gold Medal 2002, architecture
> mars group committee,
>
> james bond is perhaps related to a hit but couldn't follow up (needed
> subscription) that suggests hastings may have been a protagonist of
> bond ? warwick universtiy gave a lecture on the pyrotechnics behind
the
> bond film 'die another day.'
>
> sammi

You can make up the next James Bond movie with these words:

Die Never Day/Today/Tomorrow Eye/body part. (ie: finger)
Spy Kill(ed) Enough World Gold/Golden Live Loved Dr.

ie:

Live to Die Tomorrow
The Golden Girls must Die Today.
Goldennose and the Spy who Died.
Die Now Already

and finally one that uses most of the words:

The World Spy Dr. Who Killed Enough Today to Never Die Who Loved Gold
Enough Tomorrow.

Morris

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"dobey the elf" <dobe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The autist formerly known as wrote:


> OK what is Ivor de Wofles real name, and what did he win in what year
?
>
> What did he belong to, and what has that got to do with James Bond
and
> Warwick University ?

That question is a bit more complicated than it looked. I think you
meant Oxford University?

If so the answer is this:

Ivor de Wolfe's real name is Hubert de Cronin Hastings, a leading
writer of the Architectural Review. He won the Royal Gold Medal for the
promotion of Architecture, a tradition that has been awarded ever year
since 1848. H. d. C. Hastings also was the designer of Oxford
University. And at Oxford University they have a traditions old Golfing
Club called Huntercombe, and the club served in a scene of Goldfinger
where he is going to drill James Bond with a laser.

And here is how I arrived at these conclusions.

(they were all found via google. Please tell Morris that...)


This makes me wonder what you think my views on Google's uses are :-0

Morris


Terry Jones

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"Hylander" <john....@gmail.com> 27 Feb 2005 00:43:34 -0800
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>You can make up the next James Bond movie with these words:
>
>Die Never Day/Today/Tomorrow Eye/body part. (ie: finger)
>Spy Kill(ed) Enough World Gold/Golden Live Loved Dr.
>
>ie:
>
>Live to Die Tomorrow
>The Golden Girls must Die Today.
>Goldennose and the Spy who Died.
>Die Now Already
>
>and finally one that uses most of the words:
>
>The World Spy Dr. Who Killed Enough Today to Never Die Who Loved Gold
>Enough Tomorrow.

"A Dr who had Never even dabbled before, made a Killing in the World
Gold market Today. He says "I kept an Eye on the market for a while,
and then just followed my Nose'. But for the future he points the
Finger at Bonds, predicting that 'They've risen more than Enough, and
my Spy tells me that they're likely to Die Tomorrow'"

dobey the elf

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Feb 27, 2005, 2:46:34 PM2/27/05
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The autist formerly known as wrote:
> Not bad but you should have googled for other members of the MARS
group
>
> namely Yorke Rosenburg and Mardall who designed the first stages of
Warwick
> University,
> and Erno Goldfinger, architecht of the Trellick Tower in London,
>
> Now tell me this, what is the stone that is quarried in Nuneaton, the
site
> of the projected Civilia ?

Hey I tried to email you. Goolge was blocking me out this morning with
a 502 server error. I can now post but its my mom's turn to use the
computer, so I'll look into that think later after she is done.
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dobey the elf

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sam ende wrote:
> dobey the elf wrote:
>
>
> > I got half of it. I got the award and his real name. Still don't
> > understand James Bond and Warwick yet.
>
> yes, i got that far as well; Hubert de Cronin Hastings,
> Citation for Royal Gold Medal 2002, architecture
> mars group committee,
>
> james bond is perhaps related to a hit but couldn't follow up (needed
> subscription) that suggests hastings may have been a protagonist of
> bond ? warwick universtiy gave a lecture on the pyrotechnics behind
the
> bond film 'die another day.'
>
> sammi


Well I did have the MARS group in my notes and I did know about the
city block architecture that inspired Goldfinger's hideout.

dobey the elf

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The autist formerly known as wrote:
> Not bad but you should have googled for other members of the MARS
group
>
> namely Yorke Rosenburg and Mardall who designed the first stages of
Warwick
> University,
> and Erno Goldfinger, architecht of the Trellick Tower in London,
>
> Now tell me this, what is the stone that is quarried in Nuneaton, the
site
> of the projected Civilia ?

I would hazard a guess of quartzite.

Geological History of Warwickshire... Quartzite, a hard volcanic rock,
has been quarried commercially near Nuneaton. (4) South East of the
Avon, the Feldon, is the next younger band of rocks ...
home.freeuk.net/webbuk2/geology.htm

GeologyThe Archean rocks are represented by some volcanic ashes and
intrusive dykes (the Caldecote Series), which are exposed north-west of
Nuneaton. They dip south-westward under the Cambrian bedsHartahill
Quartzite and Stockingford Shales which give rise to higher ground; the
quartzite, which is opened up in numerous large roadstone quarries,
contains towards its summit a fauna suggesting that of the Olenellus
zone, one of the oldest faunas known. The quartzite as well as the
overlying shales is seamed with intrusive dykes of diorite. A small
inlier of the same shales occurs at Dosthill, south of Tamworth. The
Coal Measures of the Warwickshire coalfield crop out in the north of
the county between Nuneaton and Tamworth and contain valuable
coal-seams
37.1911encyclopedia.org/W/WA/WARWICKSHIRE.

Or it could be Chalcolite...

CHALCOCITE, CERUSSITE, GALENA & MOTTRAMITE, Judkins quarry, Nuneaton ,
Warwickshire. 6.5x5x3.2cm. A mottled matrix with a very busy upper
surface covered with small calcite xtls and dark metallic like xtls
with an area covered with a lime green druse. Very interesting under
magnification. £12 a.
CHALCOCITE, Judkins quarry, Nuneaton , Warwickshire. 7.5x3.3x3cm. Kevin
Johns collection label A pinkish brown matrix has the top covered with
small pinkish dogtooth calcite xtls which in turn are richly covered
with dark chalcocite xtls. £21 a.
www.crystalvine.co.uk/britishmineralsforcollectors.htm

But I think I'll go with the Quartzite:

Pick up a Pebble Project - Bunter pebbles & other quartzites ...
... The 'Hartshill Quartzite', which forms the ridge of high ground
north of
Nuneaton, is the source of many pebbles. ...
www.warwickshire.gov.uk/Web/Corporate/
Pages.nsf/Links/1073B07B98AF07D780256A2900398987
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The autist formerly known as

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It is called Hartshill Stone after the district and yes it is quartzite.

The area has its spoil hills and deep quarries, Civilia showed how a high
density multi level city to house two million people on the site, it was
never a serios proposal though, more of an architectural conjecture after
the fashion of Archigram, which you have probably come accross in your
recent googling.

--
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L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"


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dobey the elf

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The autist formerly known as wrote:
> It is called Hartshill Stone after the district and yes it is
quartzite.
>
> The area has its spoil hills and deep quarries, Civilia showed how a
high
> density multi level city to house two million people on the site, it
was
> never a serios proposal though, more of an architectural conjecture
after
> the fashion of Archigram, which you have probably come accross in
your
> recent googling.

Yes it was fun. I found out all that and still really don't know much
about Civlia except what you have told me. Why did you buy the book?

The autist formerly known as

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Because I remember getting it out from my local library when it was new,
after there had been an article about it on the local television.

I have vast numbers of planning documents including architects drawings at
home. It was one of my "special interests" I have books by Achigram, Le
Corbusier Mumford etc in my personal library, in fact I have more books on
modern architecture and town planning than the City Library seeing as that
is where some of them came from when they were sold off. I certainly have
more of the Citys planning documents than anyone else outside of the
development department themselves.

You won't be able to google my objection to the Central Area local plan of
1987 (I think it was) where I traced the first use of "townscape" in the
City's development plans. You may however find much about the development of
the City and people like Arthur Ling, Donald Gibson, Terence Gregory, and
Harry Noble.

See if you can find the connection between Coventrys Market and Liverpool's
Catholic Cathedral.


--
þT

L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"


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dobey the elf

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The autist formerly known as wrote:
> Because I remember getting it out from my local library when it was
new,
> after there had been an article about it on the local television.
>
> I have vast numbers of planning documents including architects
drawings at
> home. It was one of my "special interests" I have books by Achigram,
Le
> Corbusier Mumford etc in my personal library, in fact I have more
books on
> modern architecture and town planning than the City Library seeing as
that
> is where some of them came from when they were sold off. I certainly
have
> more of the Citys planning documents than anyone else outside of the
> development department themselves.

Okay, I was guessing either Civilia was your hobby or architecture.


>
> You won't be able to google my objection to the Central Area local
plan of
> 1987 (I think it was) where I traced the first use of "townscape" in
the
> City's development plans. You may however find much about the
development of
> the City and people like Arthur Ling, Donald Gibson, Terence Gregory,
and
> Harry Noble.
>
> See if you can find the connection between Coventrys Market and
Liverpool's
> Catholic Cathedral.

Just looking I'd have to say it is because of the layout is in the
round like the circular dome above a cathedral?

http://www.market.org.uk/

see blue and white layout.

I could put more effort into it but after that long philosphical
discussion with Hylander about the meaning of the interpretation of
life I think I have zeroed out my creativity for the day?

Off hand I'd have to say it has to do with the Body of Christ? The
festival of Corpus Christi and a Cathedral that celebrates such a Mass?

"arkets are the oldest trading undertaking Coventry City Council
possesses.

In the 12th century markets were held in both what was then called the
Priors half and the Earls half of Coventry.

In the Earls half, Ranulph III, Earl of Chester, in 1218 was granted an
annual eight day market in the city known as Trinity Fair which was
later known as the Corpus Christi or the Great Fair."
http://www.market.org.uk/history/index.html

I've always thought Mass a funny word as of course they are celebrating
Mass. The Mass of Jesus Christ. I would say his mass was about 165
pounds? hah hah.

The autist formerly known as

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Both being circular, that is part of the anser but not enough, there is a
much more certain connection than that, but then for all you know google may
let you down this time. I know the anser from memory.

Incedentally Liverpools Catholic Cathedral is not a patch on the one Oscar
Niemeyer designed for Brazilia.

There is a connection between Liverpool Catholic Cathedral and Coventry
Anglican Cathedral. And also a connection between Liverpool Anglican
Cathedral and the red K2 telephone box.


--
şT

L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and


expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"

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Okay, I was guessing either Civilia was your hobby or architecture.

snip

Just looking I'd have to say it is because of the layout is in the
round like the circular dome above a cathedral?

http://www.market.org.uk/

see blue and white layout.

I could put more effort into it but after that long philosphical
discussion with Hylander about the meaning of the interpretation of
life I think I have zeroed out my creativity for the day?

Off hand I'd have to say it has to do with the Body of Christ? The
festival of Corpus Christi and a Cathedral that celebrates such a Mass?

"arkets are the oldest trading undertaking Coventry City Council
possesses.

In the 12th century markets were held in both what was then called the
Priors half and the Earls half of Coventry.

In the Earls half, Ranulph III, Earl of Chester, in 1218 was granted an
annual eight day market in the city known as Trinity Fair which was
later known as the Corpus Christi or the Great Fair."
http://www.market.org.uk/history/index.html

I've always thought Mass a funny word as of course they are celebrating
Mass. The Mass of Jesus Christ. I would say his mass was about 165
pounds? hah hah.

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dobey the elf

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The autist formerly known as wrote:
> Both being circular, that is part of the anser but not enough, there
is a
> much more certain connection than that, but then for all you know
google may
> let you down this time. I know the anser from memory.
>
> Incedentally Liverpools Catholic Cathedral is not a patch on the one
Oscar
> Niemeyer designed for Brazilia.
>
> There is a connection between Liverpool Catholic Cathedral and
Coventry
> Anglican Cathedral. And also a connection between Liverpool Anglican
> Cathedral and the red K2 telephone box.

You are going to lose me. I'm guessing you are talking architectural
proportions?

What? Do you think me a nave!!

(hah hah, just a little cathedral humor...)
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Hylander

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But does the Dr. have a gold body part. Dr. GoldenNose?

Hylander

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Seems like the Kevin Bacon game. Pretty fun.

The autist formerly known as wrote:

The autist formerly known as

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The architect of Coventry Market and Liverpool Catholic Cathedral was sir
Frederick Gibberd hence the design similarities, both used the same
structural technique, and the design of our market with a lantern in the
middle anticipated that of Liverpool Catholic Cathedral, though you cannot
park cars on the roof of the Cathedral. So you see not everything can be
found on Google, this information requires more detailed knowlege of
Coventry's architiecture found in books.


The Anglican Cathedral in Liverpool was designed by Giles Gilbert Scott as
was the famous phone box and battersea power station, that is googlable

http://www.bwpics.co.uk/gallery/lpoolcathedral.html


--
şT

L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"


"dobey the elf" <dobe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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The autist formerly known as wrote:

You are going to lose me. I'm guessing you are talking architectural
proportions?

What? Do you think me a nave!!

(hah hah, just a little cathedral humor...)
>
>
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> şT

> > şT

Terry Jones

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Feb 28, 2005, 1:53:32 AM2/28/05
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"The autist formerly known as" <N...@larry-arnold.com> Mon, 28 Feb 2005
00:25:39 -0000 <38f6q3F...@individual.net>

>There is a connection between Liverpool Catholic Cathedral and Coventry
>Anglican Cathedral. And also a connection between Liverpool Anglican
>Cathedral and the red K2 telephone box.

But what about the K2 and Pitshanger Manor? :)

dobey the elf

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Feb 28, 2005, 10:18:10 AM2/28/05
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I always thought K2 was that mountain in Nepal? And now you are telling
me it is really just a gargantuan red phone booth instead of a
mountain? No wonder those climber's had trouble with its sheer face!!

Terry Jones

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"Hylander" <john....@gmail.com> 27 Feb 2005 17:48:46 -0800
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>> "A Dr who had Never even dabbled before, made a Killing in the World
>> Gold market Today. He says "I kept an Eye on the market for a while,
>> and then just followed my Nose'. But for the future he points the
>> Finger at Bonds, predicting that 'They've risen more than Enough, and
>> my Spy tells me that they're likely to Die Tomorrow'"
>
>But does the Dr. have a gold body part. Dr. GoldenNose?

Well he certainly has a Nose for Gold, and a Finger in every pie.
Whether he has a Gilt complex is not known.

Hylander

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Hylander wrote:
> sam ende wrote:
> > dobey the elf wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I got half of it. I got the award and his real name. Still don't
> > > understand James Bond and Warwick yet.
> >
> > yes, i got that far as well; Hubert de Cronin Hastings,
> > Citation for Royal Gold Medal 2002, architecture
> > mars group committee,
> >
> > james bond is perhaps related to a hit but couldn't follow up
(needed
> > subscription) that suggests hastings may have been a protagonist of
> > bond ? warwick universtiy gave a lecture on the pyrotechnics behind
> the
> > bond film 'die another day.'
> >
> > sammi
>
> You can make up the next James Bond movie with these words:
>
> Die Never Day/Today/Tomorrow Eye/body part. (ie: finger)
> Spy Kill(ed) Enough World Gold/Golden Live Loved Dr.
>
> ie:
>
> Live to Die Tomorrow
> The Golden Girls must Die Today.
> Goldennose and the Spy who Died.
> Die Now Already

Some more:

Die Enough Tomorrow
The Spy who Loved Me for My Golden Eye.
Golden Girls Die Die Die!
Never Say Die to a Spy unless you "Die" it Gold.
The Goldfinger who Loved Me
The World is Not Your Golden Love Child.
The Golden Girls* Can't Die Enough.

*http://www.lifetimetv.com/shows/golden/
or
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Strand/5836/goldengirls.htm

Rowe Rickenbacker

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Feb 28, 2005, 1:05:38 PM2/28/05
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dee wrote:

> I can't seem to catch you anywhere else....

Hey. Sorry I didn't mail, but I've had some things on my mind.
Also doubting the May trip is going to be going ahead at all,
after I got this months paycheck and found out how low it
is when I don't do any overtime. Sigh.

Rowe
gotta get a new job,
even if this one's nice.
--
That's totally haggard, dude!

dee

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Feb 28, 2005, 3:07:57 PM2/28/05
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Hey its ok, and thanks for sticking up for me, seems some are pretty
quick to jump on people here.....even if it doesn't concern them. You
knew my reasons, that's what counts

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dobey the elf

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sam ende wrote:
> dobey the elf wrote:
>
> >
> > The autist formerly known as wrote:
> >> Not bad but you should have googled for other members of the MARS
> > group
> >>
> >> namely Yorke Rosenburg and Mardall who designed the first stages
of
> > Warwick
> >> University,
> >> and Erno Goldfinger, architecht of the Trellick Tower in London,
> >>
> >> Now tell me this, what is the stone that is quarried in Nuneaton,
the
> > site
> >> of the projected Civilia ?
>
> they proposed building it upon a waste-tip (half-way down);
>
http://society.guardian.co.uk/regeneration/story/0,7940,515827,00.html
>
> as to what stone is quarried i don't know as there seem to be several
> types.

check the google oracle. It knows..
>
> sammi

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