This is a support group, Folks!
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
Besides myself, Jan Drew and Ilena Rose, Raving Loony, there really
isn't anybody here offering any support or help.
The obvious trouble-makers such as Probate and Co. should apologize and
leave these groups immediately! I have always led this group in the
direction it should go, toward proper information, concern and support.
All the noise-makers should now vacate.
Dr. Condoleezza Rice
<sci...@zzz.com>, woke up from a dream, and posted his dream in this
newsgroup, <1147279395.4...@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>:
What he wrote, in his dazed awareness, was:
<snip>
> I have always led this group in the
> direction it should go, ...
<snip>
What he *meant* to write was:
"I have always led this group to learn how to create and refine kill
filters, to eliminate my delusional posts from seeing the light of
day."
-CR
PS: I have cross posted this message to 271 newsgroups. I have used
my "friends" at the CIA to hack USENET, and set the font color to
"none" -- thus no cross-posting will be apparent... but, "trust me",
it's there.
Mark Probert
> People, let us try and return to the support aspect of this group.
> Besides myself, Jan Drew and Ilena Rose, Raving Loony,
Do not insult RL.
there really
> isn't anybody here offering any support or help.
> The obvious trouble-makers such as Probate and Co. should apologize and
> leave these groups immediately! I have always led this group in the
> direction it should go, toward proper information, concern and support.
> All the noise-makers should now vacate.
Speaking of noise, please take your flatulence and borborygmus and move
on. It is getting stuffy in here.
Mark Probert
> Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A., -- a legend in his own mind --
That is a lie. He does not have a mind. Years ago what he thought was a
mind was removed by an alien race. They wanted an example of a vestigial
organ.
Rev. 11D Meow!
the only one posting in it. Then it isn't really a group at all, is it.
Unless that person is using a whole bunch of sock 'nyms to amuse themselves.
:)
PS. Google showed exactly zero hits for your Independent National Open
Pharmaceutical United Laboratories (INOPUL) thingie. Where is its website
and what is its mission statement?
PPS. If there's any 110% effective method to keep those trouble-causers
coming back to 'your' group, it's either by asking the rest to PLONK them or
to ask them directly to leave. There's actually quite a lot one can learn
from how the self interacts with those trouble-causers, most of it positive
in effect. Many of those so-called trouble-causers have their own issues
they can learn about by interacting with other people that treat them like a
fellow human organism. Of course, there all always those that have nothing
better to do with their time.
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in message
news:1147279395.4...@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Mark Probert
> Sorry to bother you, but nobody 'leads' a Usenet newsgroup. Unless they're
> the only one posting in it. Then it isn't really a group at all, is it.
> Unless that person is using a whole bunch of sock 'nyms to amuse themselves.
> :)
>
> PS. Google showed exactly zero hits for your Independent National Open
> Pharmaceutical United Laboratories (INOPUL) thingie. Where is its website
> and what is its mission statement?
Like when he infested asad on a daily basis, to disrupt the group and
provide bogus information.
Google Richard Frager, one of his former Nyms.
Jan Drew
"Mark Probert" <markp...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:Dj0ag.16$RM1...@fe12.lga...
> Rev. 11D Meow! wrote:
>> Sorry to bother you, but nobody 'leads' a Usenet newsgroup. Unless
>> they're the only one posting in it. Then it isn't really a group at all,
>> is it. Unless that person is using a whole bunch of sock 'nyms to amuse
>> themselves. :)
>>
>> PS. Google showed exactly zero hits for your Independent National Open
>> Pharmaceutical United Laboratories (INOPUL) thingie. Where is its
>> website and what is its mission statement?
>
> Like when he infested asad on a daily basis, to disrupt the group and
> provide bogus information.
Poor Mark is one to talk.
From: "Marla Maples" <marla_map...@hotmail.com>
To: i...@san.rr.com
Subject: Listserv?
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 06:50:44 -0800
Good morning!
I am a woman who was harmed by breast implants. I had them removed, but I am
still sick with FM and CFS.
I read the newsgroup where you are medciless atacked. I feel so sorry for
you.
I see that you have a support listserv. Can I sign up? That way, I can avoid
reading all that horrible stuff.
Marla Maples
Medford, OR
>
> Google Richard Frager, one of his former Nyms.
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/propagandistprobert.html
Rev. 11D Meow!
here, yet. I've been over in asdm for eons, but am now seeing docs
left and right to get undiagnosed as BP and correctly diagnosed this
time, most likely Adult ADD with a pinch of HD... We'll see how that
goes. Do you know of any ADD medication that works on the same brain
bits like pemoline used to? That's all I've tried so far and it worked
from day one with no side-effects or speediness.
Thanks.
Mark Probert
> "Mark Probert" <markp...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:Dj0ag.16$RM1...@fe12.lga...
>> Rev. 11D Meow! wrote:
>>> Sorry to bother you, but nobody 'leads' a Usenet newsgroup. Unless
>>> they're the only one posting in it. Then it isn't really a group at all,
>>> is it. Unless that person is using a whole bunch of sock 'nyms to amuse
>>> themselves. :)
>>>
>>> PS. Google showed exactly zero hits for your Independent National Open
>>> Pharmaceutical United Laboratories (INOPUL) thingie. Where is its
>>> website and what is its mission statement?
>> Like when he infested asad on a daily basis, to disrupt the group and
>> provide bogus information.
>
> Poor Mark is one to talk.
Yes, I am. I stated that I had no intention of disruption, merely fact
finding in the context of what I explained.
You do like to leave out the important stuff.
And, this is not in the spirit of L&LL.
Rev. 11D Meow!
Could you make a list of Who's Who On alt.support.attn-deficit?
Who's on which gang?
Who are the trolls?
Who are the positive/supportive folks?
Who is here to be a stick-in-the mud?
That sort of thing.
I don't have four to six years available
for configuring my kill-filters all over again.
Thanks, "Mark Probert".
Raving Loonie
other more "serious" co-morbid traits.
He is irrelevent. He writes misleading garbage.
Ignore him and forget about him.
He is lazy, crazy and stupid, for real.
GOODBYE.
Jan Drew
Neither are your LIES.
I must tell you that Jan has made some comments that could be inferred
to be slurs about people who are disabled with emotional problems.
Raving Loonie
... and I wish to Hell that I didn't have emotional problems.
They are bullshit.
Jan Drew
"Raving Loonie" <raving...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147743351.0...@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Anecdotes are Bullshit. Mark Probert.
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
> Tell, this, "Mark Probert", please.
>
> Could you make a list of Who's Who On alt.support.attn-deficit?
>
> Who's on which gang?
> Who are the trolls?
> Who are the positive/supportive folks?
> Who is here to be a stick-in-the mud?
Well, I'm not Mark, but I'll take a chance that you're not trollin' and
answer a bit of your question for you.
Mark's a real person who wants REAL info to be shared but who sometimes
gets a bit over-zealous about calling folks on giving wrong info. He
and I had a round or two when I first came to the NG about 6 years ago,
but we figured each other out. He's solid.
I think Jan's got good intentions, but she goes overboard in what she
posts. She doesn't realize when the articles she's posting can have
negative effects on those of us affected by the physical condition(s)
about which they are written. I'm guessing that, for the most part,
she doesn't have to live with the conditions about which she posts
articles. I *know* that some of the ADHD articles she posts can
contribute to a lot of the misconceptions people hold about those of us
who have ADHD. I don't think she does this intentionally, but she also
doesn't heed the requests of others that she do a better job screening
what she posts.
You've probably got filters already set up for most of the trolls that
come through since you've been posting to a support group. It's been
my experience that, for the most part, the same ones habitate most of
support groups.
If you've been on Usenet as long as you say, you'll soon figure out who
the helpful regulars are. They're not difficult to spot. But
remember, this is an ADHD support group. All of us can be a bit
impulsive at times. It always helps to remember that...
Oh, look! A moth!
Kitten
Rev. 11D Meow!
"Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" <st_brigids...@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:1147745598....@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Rev. 11D Meow! wrote:
>> Tell, this, "Mark Probert", please.
>>
>> Could you make a list of Who's Who On alt.support.attn-deficit?
>>
>> Who's on which gang?
>> Who are the trolls?
>> Who are the positive/supportive folks?
>> Who is here to be a stick-in-the mud?
>
>
> Well, I'm not Mark, but I'll take a chance that you're not trollin' and
> answer a bit of your question for you.
>
>
> Mark's a real person who wants REAL info to be shared but who sometimes
> gets a bit over-zealous about calling folks on giving wrong info. He
> and I had a round or two when I first came to the NG about 6 years ago,
> but we figured each other out. He's solid.
>
> I think Jan's got good intentions, but she goes overboard in what she
> posts. She doesn't realize when the articles she's posting can have
> negative effects on those of us affected by the physical condition(s)
> about which they are written. I'm guessing that, for the most part,
> she doesn't have to live with the conditions about which she posts
> articles. I *know* that some of the ADHD articles she posts can
> contribute to a lot of the misconceptions people hold about those of us
> who have ADHD. I don't think she does this intentionally, but she also
> doesn't heed the requests of others that she do a better job screening
> what she posts.
Yeah, I was a tad bit confused there on this also. We get a lot of "The
Lord Can/Will HEAL YOUR AFFLICTION With Prayer And Faith!"
and "Parasites cause BiPolar and all other Mental Health issues!"
and "You can get rid of those pesky parasites with THE PROPER DIET!"
posts over in alt.support.depression.manic all the time.
I agree with you. I was misdiagnosed BP almost 15 years ago. AND
IT'S ALL MY FAULT. I'd studied-up on it for about three months
solid because some friend suggested I may have BP. Well, gee, DUhhhh.
After reading all that and mapping my symptoms to near identical ADD
symptoms onto the BP DSM map, I'm BiPolar in the doc's eyes from
the first fifteen minutes of the first session WITHOUT a proper
eval/assesment.
Not to mention the two week totally positive pemoline thing a couple
years ago where I could feel me/normal for the first time in forever.
Normal as in before I had all these fucked-up compensators/filters
set-up for dealing with the world as ADD possible HD in non-physical
areas... oh well. Took my MMPI-2 this morning. That was a freakin'
riot of laughter. I'd like to see the score done over without all the sin
and criminal crap in there. And anything that said Never or Always
was an automatic FALSE by definition. These people are so damned
stupid!!! The ones that made things like MMPI etc. And there was two
on the Shipley or whatever it is I couldn't make hide nore hair of.
I figure why throw the score off by guessing and left them blank.
Thanks for reply
> You've probably got filters already set up for most of the trolls that
> come through since you've been posting to a support group. It's been
> my experience that, for the most part, the same ones habitate most of
> support groups.
>
> If you've been on Usenet as long as you say, you'll soon figure out who
> the helpful regulars are. They're not difficult to spot. But
> remember, this is an ADHD support group. All of us can be a bit
> impulsive at times. It always helps to remember that...
Yep, got that covered. I have a bit of OT contribution over
in ASDM quite a bit. But, it's in fun so they don't ALL hate
me over there. ;-) Take Care
Do they do Hugs in here?
Rainbow Healing Sparkleez?
Rev. 11D Meow!
alt.support.attn-deficit?
"Raving Loonie" <raving...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147742707.1...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Raving Loonie
> How do I tell which posts are from imposters or not here in
> alt.support.attn-deficit?
... I am too sick-in-the-head to just have ADD
Raving Loonie
Rev. 11D Meow!
Yeah, I gotta a pretty healthy dose of low self-esteem
going here my owned self. ;-)
Raving Loonie
As far as ASAD is concerned; if you appear to be too screwed up; it
cannot possibly be because of ADD.
It would be too embarassing for those who 'genuinely' suffer from the
condition.
... a genuine liability. ... a threat.
<barf>
Rev. 11D Meow!
This is Usenet.
If nobody ever speaks the truth here
than nobody ever gets a chance
to hear it, eh? ;-)
THREAT IS IN THE MIND
OF THE BEHOLDEE!
period
Eggs Clam Action Point.
"Raving Loonie" <raving...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147754735.3...@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Ann
>How do I tell which posts are from imposters or not here in
>alt.support.attn-deficit?
Oh, Raving isn't an imposter; it's questionable what his 'diagnosis'
is, he changes it from time to time. He also goes on and on about
what a loser he is (his own words) and generally rambles so much most
people have killfiled him.
--
Ann
e-mail address is not checked
Ann
>FUCK ALL THAT SHIT, sir and/or lady.
>
>This is Usenet.
>
>If nobody ever speaks the truth here
>than nobody ever gets a chance
>to hear it, eh? ;-)
>
>THREAT IS IN THE MIND
>OF THE BEHOLDEE!
>
>period
>
>Eggs Clam Action Point.
Very well said. Seriously.
Raving Loonie
I will stop trying to contribute anything.
I am out of here.
Rev. 11D Meow!
"Ann" <ann...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:hc7j62dun85av78bv...@4ax.com...
You're quite welcome. hugs and
rainbow healing sparklee bits, ann and all...
Raving Loonie
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:
> People, let us try and return to the support aspect of this group.
bastards.
To Hell with all of you.
Rev. 11D Meow!
Well, then, at least Raving Loonie IS FUCKING REAL THEN!
I have exactly Zero Room in my Kill-Filter
for REAL PEOPLE!
Rave On, Loonie!
We're Here For/With You.
and I sure as fuck won't be apologizing for my own rave/rage these last few
moments here.
I'm Fucking Sick Of Not Being Able To Fucking Get Any
Fucking HELP! With This ADD maybe HD BULLSHIT!
Modern Medicine My Bleeding ASS! ;-)
Rev. 11D Meow!
That Is NOT What Ann Said, And You Know It!
Low Self-Esteem Fucking SUCKS!
I Know
I'm its founder and first client. ;-)
Rev. 11D Meow!
> This support group is filled with a bunch of miserable,
Not for much longer, RL.
The first two initials of my IRL name, actually... ;-)
Mark Probert
That is something one has to learn for themselves.
Mark Probert
> "Mark Probert" <markp...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:7e6ag.932$RM1...@fe12.lga...
>> Jan Drew wrote:
>>> "Mark Probert" <markp...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Dj0ag.16$RM1...@fe12.lga...
>>>> Rev. 11D Meow! wrote:
>>>>> Sorry to bother you, but nobody 'leads' a Usenet newsgroup. Unless
>>>>> they're the only one posting in it. Then it isn't really a group at
>>>>> all, is it. Unless that person is using a whole bunch of sock 'nyms to
>>>>> amuse themselves. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> PS. Google showed exactly zero hits for your Independent National Open
>>>>> Pharmaceutical United Laboratories (INOPUL) thingie. Where is its
>>>>> website and what is its mission statement?
>>>> Like when he infested asad on a daily basis, to disrupt the group and
>>>> provide bogus information.
>>> Poor Mark is one to talk.
>> Yes, I am. I stated that I had no intention of disruption, merely fact
>> finding in the context of what I explained.
>>
>> You do like to leave out the important stuff.
>>
>> And, this is not in the spirit of L&LL.
>
> Neither are your LIES.
Jan, I failed to find the official document where you were appointed
Usenet's judge & jury of what is a lie, and who says them.
>> I must tell you that Jan has made some comments that could be inferred
>> to be slurs about people who are disabled with emotional problems.
(I fixed the attributions).
Jan did not deny this.
Raving Loonie
> "Rev. 11D Meow!" <Ji...@Crack.corn> expounded:
>
> >How do I tell which posts are from imposters or not here in
> >alt.support.attn-deficit?
>
> Oh, Raving isn't an imposter; it's questionable what his 'diagnosis'
Oh. ... I "suppose" that because a person constantly changes their
mind, it is less likely that they have ADD, eh?
Gee I never knew that those with ADD were so decisive and settled in
their opinion.
Maybe, I don't have ADD, after all ...
> .... He also goes on and on about
> what a loser he is (his own words) and generally rambles so much most
> people have killfiled him.
It's always good to appreciate that 'someone' who most people killfile
ISN'T necessarily a 'loser'. I am obviously missing something, here.
J. Clarke
I consider his nym to be an example of truth in advertising.
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Emma Anne
> Yeah, I was a tad bit confused there on this also. We get a lot of "The
> Lord Can/Will HEAL YOUR AFFLICTION With Prayer And Faith!"
> and "Parasites cause BiPolar and all other Mental Health issues!"
> and "You can get rid of those pesky parasites with THE PROPER DIET!"
> posts over in alt.support.depression.manic all the time.
It is amazing to me. Every group I've ever spent time in has these
people. The marriage support newgroup has one right now who advocates
men beating up their wives in order to achieve marital happiness. The
dental one that Stovepipe frequents has amalgam filling nuts. The
autism group and this one have trolls very similar to what you describe
in ASDM. The parenting newsgroups get child haters. I understand the
cat groups get cat haters.
What is it about human nature that causes a certain subset of people to
go into groups and harrass people at their weakest point? Beats me.
MothWrangler
IMNSHO, there are several different subsets:
1. The "true believers," zealots who truly believe they have "the
answer" to whatever is generally being discussed in the group.
They post in their mission to spread "the word"--whether others seem
receptive or not, help others finally understand "the truth," and covert
others to their way of thinking.
2. The immature. Posters who are either kids or never developed
emotionally beyond middle school who think it's fun to cause a little
ruckus in the groups.
3. The mentally disturbed. People who are delusional, paranoid, or have
other behavioral or emotional issues that result in their annoying or
abusing other posters, or posting disturbing content.
4. The just plain evil. Just as IRL, there are people in groups who are
just mean, vile, ugly, nasty, who enjoy abusing and hurting others.
There may be more subgroups, but IMO, those are the biggies.
Nancy
Unique, like everyone else
Jan Drew
> Jan Drew wrote:
>> "Mark Probert" <markp...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
>> news:7e6ag.932$RM1...@fe12.lga...
>>> Jan Drew wrote:
>>>> "Mark Probert" <markp...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Dj0ag.16$RM1...@fe12.lga...
>>>>> Rev. 11D Meow! wrote:
>>>>>> Sorry to bother you, but nobody 'leads' a Usenet newsgroup. Unless
>>>>>> they're the only one posting in it. Then it isn't really a group at
>>>>>> all, is it. Unless that person is using a whole bunch of sock 'nyms
>>>>>> to amuse themselves. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS. Google showed exactly zero hits for your Independent National
>>>>>> Open Pharmaceutical United Laboratories (INOPUL) thingie. Where is
>>>>>> its website and what is its mission statement?
>>>>> Like when he infested asad on a daily basis, to disrupt the group and
>>>>> provide bogus information.
>>>> Poor Mark is one to talk.
>>> Yes, I am. I stated that I had no intention of disruption, merely fact
>>> finding in the context of what I explained.
>>>
>>> You do like to leave out the important stuff.
>>>
>>> And, this is not in the spirit of L&LL.
>>
>> Neither are your LIES.
>
> Jan, I failed to find the official document where you were appointed
> Usenet's judge & jury of what is a lie, and who says them.
I don't need any official document.
You made a claim. The real burden of proof is on the accuser.
Mark, you are the accuser. Either show the claim is the truth or be consided
a liar.
I regret to inform you, this is not in the spirit of L&LL.
>
>>> I must tell you that Jan has made some comments that could be inferred
>>> to be slurs about people who are disabled with emotional problems.
>
> (I fixed the attributions).
Showing more of your dishonesty.
Searched all groups Results 1 - 1 of 1 for "I must tell you that Jan
has made some comments that could be inferred"
group:alt.support.attn-deficit author:markp...@lumbercartel.com (0.39
seconds)
> Jan did not deny this.
Poor, sad, dishonest, lying, not in the spirit of L&LL..Mark Probert
Johnny Huang
Misc.Health.Alternative is not a support group.
Alt.support.attn-deficit is.
Please make a note of it and leave your personal disputes out of the
discussion of health alternatives.
Johnny Huang
Jan Drew
"Johnny Huang" <johnny_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1147811795.8...@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
LOL.
Make a note that Mark Probert posted these words in this newsgroups.
Make a further note personal disputes go on all the time here...in fact YOU
are most guilty.
Ann
>It's always good to appreciate that 'someone' who most people killfile
>ISN'T necessarily a 'loser'. I am obviously missing something, here.
And you would refuse to 'get it' if I explained, so I can't be
bothered.
Raving Loonie
> "Raving Loonie" <raving...@gmail.com> expounded:
>
> >It's always good to appreciate that 'someone' who most people killfile
> >ISN'T necessarily a 'loser'. I am obviously missing something, here.
>
> And you would refuse to 'get it' if I explained, so I can't be
> bothered.
Cordially,
RL
--
And you would refuse to 'get it' if I explained, so I can't be
bothered. ~ Ann
Rev. 11D Meow!
is simply put.
"Blah blah blah blahdy fucking blah."
Get a fucking clue, people.
"Mark Probert" <markp...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:8zkag.20$Vy1...@fe08.lga...
> blah blah blah
Rev. 11D Meow!
If Misc.Health.Alternative is not a support group,
then what the fuck is it doing here on Usenet, doofuss?
Blah blah blah blahdy fucking blah.
BULLSHIT!
"Johnny Huang" <johnny_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1147811795.8...@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
Rev. 11D Meow!
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
Rev. 11D Meow! wrote:
> The funniest part of all this He Said She Said BULLSHIT
> is simply put.
>
> "Blah blah blah blahdy fucking blah."
>
> Get a fucking clue, people.
And so you join them in the mud and the muck?
Kitten
Rev. 11D Meow!
"Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" <st_brigids...@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:1147845139.8...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hmmmmmmmmm
Which Is It, Richard, eh?
Mud?
Muck?
Bus on the road to recovery?
My contribution remains as spoken
and continues as to what hasn't been spoked yet.
A continuing saga.
I Will NEVER CATCH THE BUS!
Waste of time and gas, so to speak here, dear.
I miss my kitty.
They won't let me have one in this apartment.
SHE, MY MANX KAT suitably named bunny
as SHE had to hop during her kitten months
on this great green earth ball thingie
floating around the sun in space
and time and such within
all these 11 dimensions
<2007 Usenet Kook Award, Here I come>
there's no place like home
click
click
click
RUBY SLIPPERS
hugs and rainbow healing sparklee bits to all
and to all,
a good night
Hey! did you know?
Yul Brynner's son, ROCK
and Judy Garland's daughter LIZA
had a 'thing' going on, eh?
May ALL Rest In Peace Such As They Will
TOGETHER ONE DAY...
Dr. Condoleezza Rice
Meow! <Ji...@Crack.corn> wrote:
> The funniest part of all this He Said She Said BULLSHIT
> is simply put.
>
> "Blah blah blah blahdy fucking blah."
>
> Get a fucking clue, people.
Ah... another killfile filter made! (Rev. 11D Meow!)
Rev. 11D Meow!
"Dr. Condoleezza Rice" <co...@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message
news:170520060227096724%co...@whitehouse.gov...
Mark Probert
> "Johnny Huang" <johnny_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1147811795.8...@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Misc.Health.Alternative is not a support group.
>> Alt.support.attn-deficit is.
>>
>> Please make a note of it and leave your personal disputes out of the
>> discussion of health alternatives.
>
> LOL.
>
> Make a note that Mark Probert posted these words in this newsgroups.
Next thing you know, Jan will blame me for the war in Iraq, illegal
immigration, oil spills, extinction of the Dodo, and Brittney Spears
getting fat.
Rev. 11D Meow!
>
> Next thing you know, Jan will blame me for the war in Iraq,
Since you're not over there fighting those pesky terrorists,
then you are both UnAmerican, but you probably hate
the bible also.
JESUS DIED FOR YOUR SINS, Mark Probert!
Live up to it. Eat the body and drink the blood
of CHRIST and you too can be saved
and live up here in heaven with the rest of us angels.
Rev. 11D Meow!
"J. Clarke" <jclarke...@snet.net.invalid> wrote in message
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> Ann wrote:
>
>> "Rev. 11D Meow!" <Ji...@Crack.corn> expounded:
>>
>>>How do I tell which posts are from imposters or not here in
>>>alt.support.attn-deficit?
>>
>> Oh, Raving isn't an imposter; it's questionable what his 'diagnosis'
>> is, he changes it from time to time. He also goes on and on about
>> what a loser he is (his own words) and generally rambles so much most
>> people have killfiled him.
>
> I consider his nym to be an example of truth in advertising.
>
Raving makes much more sense than Gee DUHbya Bloosh does.
That's for sure.
HCN
"Rev. 11D Meow!" <Ji...@Crack.corn> wrote in message
news:I6SdnV6OoOulJPfZ...@comcast.com...
> WELL, Mizz Wanda Wanda!
>
> If Misc.Health.Alternative is not a support group,
> then what the fuck is it doing here on Usenet, doofuss?
It is a discussion group for both PRO and CON... it goes both ways.
It you want a "support" group, go to moderated forums like Curezone,
Mothering.com and others. Those are the ones where dissent is banned, and
actually providing real data is considered "trolling".
Rev. 11D Meow!
"HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:n7SdnZLpxN9Tq_bZ...@comcast.com...
Funny how that works on this planet.
George Orwell was so on-target,
it isn't even funny.
Freedom is Tyranny
Emma Anne
> IMNSHO, there are several different subsets:
>
> 1. The "true believers," zealots who truly believe they have "the
> answer" to whatever is generally being discussed in the group.
> They post in their mission to spread "the word"--whether others seem
> receptive or not, help others finally understand "the truth," and covert
> others to their way of thinking.
>
> 2. The immature. Posters who are either kids or never developed
> emotionally beyond middle school who think it's fun to cause a little
> ruckus in the groups.
>
> 3. The mentally disturbed. People who are delusional, paranoid, or have
> other behavioral or emotional issues that result in their annoying or
> abusing other posters, or posting disturbing content.
>
> 4. The just plain evil. Just as IRL, there are people in groups who are
> just mean, vile, ugly, nasty, who enjoy abusing and hurting others.
>
>
> There may be more subgroups, but IMO, those are the biggies.
Nice summation! I think I'd add one more:
5. The people who just can't let go. They get into a conflict and
cannot let the other person have the last word. They can't agree to
disagree, and no error or misjudgment (in their view) can be allowed to
stand without many rounds of argument. These people aren't trolls in
the traditional sense, but they can mess up a newsgroup just as bad,
without ever meaning to.
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
Rev. 11D Meow! wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markp...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:HTFag.12$Ek...@fe09.lga...
> >
> > Next thing you know, Jan will blame me for the war in Iraq,
>
> Since you're not over there fighting those pesky terrorists,
> then you are both UnAmerican, but you probably hate
> the bible also.
Actually, if you live by Jesus' teachings in the Gospels (which are
based on Torah, particularly the book of Samuel), you would be teaching
against the fighting over there and would get to hear (or read) people
calling you unAmerican, unpatriotic, etc.
Kitten
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
Rev. 11D Meow! wrote:
> "HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:n7SdnZLpxN9Tq_bZ...@comcast.com...
> >
> > It is a discussion group for both PRO and CON... it goes both ways.
> >
> > It you want a "support" group, go to moderated forums like Curezone,
> > Mothering.com and others. Those are the ones where dissent is banned, and
> > actually providing real data is considered "trolling".
>
>
> Funny how that works on this planet.
> George Orwell was so on-target,
> it isn't even funny.
>
> Freedom is Tyranny
Ya know, YD got really spooked when she read 1984 this year. I wonder
if it's made the banned books list yet. The Grapes of Wrath is one of
the 50 most banned books, as is Animal Farm. I'm waiting to see what
other good books wind up on the list. I'm making the kids' Junior and
Senior Literature reading lists from the banned books list.
Kitten
Jan Drew
Mark Probert
So, you admit that you are self-appointed.
> You made a claim. The real burden of proof is on the accuser.
>
> Mark, you are the accuser. Either show the claim is the truth or be
consided a liar.
I was the accuser of precisely what? Claimant that you are a
self-appointed abuser who calls people liars merely because you:
1. Disagree with them?
2. Want to discredit everything they say?
3. They are Jewish?
4. They are Catholic?
5. They are Gay?
6. They are atheists?
> I regret to inform you, this is not in the spirit of L&LL.
Yes, your antics are surely not in the spirit of L&LL.
>>>> I must tell you that Jan has made some comments that could be inferred
>>>> to be slurs about people who are disabled with emotional problems.
>> (I fixed the attributions).
>
> Showing more of your dishonesty.
Nope, showing how you seem to screw up attributions more than anyone else.
Mark Probert
It is worse than that. I was kicked out of the CurseZone for
*questioning* their dogma.
Mark Probert
Elective in a certain high school: Banned Books and Why they Were Banned.
Peter Bowditch
>Jan Drew wrote:
>> "Johnny Huang" <johnny_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1147811795.8...@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> Misc.Health.Alternative is not a support group.
>>> Alt.support.attn-deficit is.
>>>
>>> Please make a note of it and leave your personal disputes out of the
>>> discussion of health alternatives.
>>
>> LOL.
>>
>> Make a note that Mark Probert posted these words in this newsgroups.
>
>Next thing you know, Jan will blame me for the war in Iraq, illegal
>immigration, oil spills, extinction of the Dodo, and Brittney Spears
>getting fat.
I have to accept responsibility for the last one. She apparently
started living on burgers and fried chicken after I told her that I
was a married man and things could not go as they were ...
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
Peter Bowditch
Where can I find this list. I agree that it looks like the canon for
educating children.
The Grapes of Wrath had more influence on my thinking and attitudes
than almost any other book I read when I was young. (My parents
encouraged reading of anything that wasn't outright pornography.) The
scene where Rose of Sharon put the baby into the flood stream is just
about the most stunning thing I have ever seen in a work of fiction.
The way she then turned from the tragedy to help someone even worse
off than herself shows how the human spirit can work in almost
miraculous ways. Amazing stuff!
What is almost as amazing is that there will be people reading my
words here who have not only not read Steinbeck but will not even know
his name.
Jan Drew
Mark Probert tried to duct this claim by diversions.. as usual. Which are
snipped. He still has NO proof.
>
> > You made a claim. The real burden of proof is on the accuser.
> >
> > Mark, you are the accuser. Either show the claim is the truth or be
> consided a liar.
There is NO proof here.
You have now had plenty of time to show the claim is the truth. You have
NOT.
You have once AGAIN PROVEN yourself to be a LIAR,
>
> > I regret to inform you, this is not in the spirit of L&LL.
>
> >>>> I must tell you that Jan has made some comments that could be
> >>>> inferred
> >>>> to be slurs about people who are disabled with emotional problems.
> >> (I fixed the attributions).
> >
> > Showing more of your dishonesty.
>
HCN
"marcia" <des...@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1147909578....@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
...> Where is this banned books list? I want to make sure *my* kids get to
> read them, too. Let's start a revolution. ;)
>
> (skipping off to Google)
>
Try the American Library Associations Banned Book Week website:
http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/bannedbooksweek.htm
Note that (to keep on topic) that despite the efforts of some, m.h.a is NOT
moderated. Some will try to tell dissenters to go away, but they have no
actual power (though they try to spam with nonsense threads about "bloggers"
on usenet). This is very unlike some the forum at Mothering.com which will
not only ban members who post information that counters their mindset, but
will delete the offending messages, and even whole threads (a process known
as "Stalin's airbrush", where embarrassing bits of history are covered up).
This also happens at CureZone, and other places where those who do not toe
the line end up something like this screen shot:
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars/avnban.htm
HCN
I have heard of people being banned before they even posted one message when
their username or email address was recognized as either being a real expert
or someone who has posted contrary to their beliefs (otherwise as someone
who would be "bad for business"... and would prevent fence-sitters from
buying zappers, or whatever).
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
> >
> >Ya know, YD got really spooked when she read 1984 this year. I wonder
> >if it's made the banned books list yet. The Grapes of Wrath is one of
> >the 50 most banned books, as is Animal Farm. I'm waiting to see what
> >other good books wind up on the list. I'm making the kids' Junior and
> >Senior Literature reading lists from the banned books list.
> >
> >Kitten
>
> Where can I find this list. I agree that it looks like the canon for
> educating children.
Viva la Home Education Movement!
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/People/spok/most-banned.html
>
> The Grapes of Wrath had more influence on my thinking and attitudes
> than almost any other book I read when I was young. (My parents
> encouraged reading of anything that wasn't outright pornography.)
Heh. Teaching technique I learned from my mother: Tell the kid *not*
to read it. That's what I did with YD WRT 1984. I'd assigned it last
year; she refused to read it. This year, I read it again myself, then
when she asked what I was reading, I told her she wouldn't like it.
> The scene where Rose of Sharon put the baby into the flood stream is just
> about the most stunning thing I have ever seen in a work of fiction.
> The way she then turned from the tragedy to help someone even worse
> off than herself shows how the human spirit can work in almost
> miraculous ways. Amazing stuff!
I recently re-read The Pearl and The Red Pony. I *love* the portrayal
of the human spirit in The Pearl. I found The Red Pony to be not as
touching, for me. Maybe too close to the life I lead?
>
> What is almost as amazing is that there will be people reading my
> words here who have not only not read Steinbeck but will not even know
> his name.
How about Gibran? Thoreau? Whitman? Paine?
You can get more info about banned books on the American Library
Association's website:
http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/challengedbanned/challengedbanned.htm
http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/bbwlinks/100mostfrequently.htm
Further interesting reading on the subject:
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
Peter Bowditch wrote:
<snipped>
>
> I have to accept responsibility for the last one. She apparently
> started living on burgers and fried chicken after I told her that I
> was a married man and things could not go as they were ...
Eeewww!!!! Arsenic chicken!! Blech!
Kitten
Sumbuny
"Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" <st_brigids...@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:1147915308.8...@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Peter Bowditch wrote:
>> "Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" <st_brigids...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
> <snipped>
>> >
>> >Ya know, YD got really spooked when she read 1984 this year. I wonder
>> >if it's made the banned books list yet. The Grapes of Wrath is one of
>> >the 50 most banned books, as is Animal Farm. I'm waiting to see what
>> >other good books wind up on the list. I'm making the kids' Junior and
>> >Senior Literature reading lists from the banned books list.
>> >
>> >Kitten
>>
>> Where can I find this list. I agree that it looks like the canon for
>> educating children.
>
>
> Viva la Home Education Movement!
>
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/People/spok/most-banned.html
>
>
>>
>> The Grapes of Wrath had more influence on my thinking and attitudes
>> than almost any other book I read when I was young. (My parents
>> encouraged reading of anything that wasn't outright pornography.)
>
>
> Heh. Teaching technique I learned from my mother: Tell the kid *not*
> to read it. That's what I did with YD WRT 1984. I'd assigned it last
> year; she refused to read it. This year, I read it again myself, then
> when she asked what I was reading, I told her she wouldn't like it.
<BG> Sounds like a plan....
Reading this...and being a sci fi/fantasy nut myself...one title keeps
coming to mind.... _Farenheit 451_....
<thinking I gotta go drag my copy out and go re-read it myself...>
--
Buny
" Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be
normal."
~ Albert Camus
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
Anecdotes are bullshit.
<snip>
Rev. 11D Meow!
See my posts and replies in seattle.politics and alt.impeach.bush.
Especially this one...
Subject: The American Eagle Spreads Her Wings Wide To Stay Aloft!!!!
Hey, folks!
Ever pause in your bickering long enough to notice one simple fact?
The simple fact that the myth of 'left-wing' vs. 'right-wing' is
accomplishing exactly what it was designed to do from its inception into the
approved mass media culture?
Well, guess what folks, The American Eagle is being shot down in flames by
the simple fact that all you bickering right-wing and left-wing fools can't
keep in rhythm long enough to keep this American Eagle aloft any longer due
to your incessant sniping at each other.
While you're all busy fighting each other for the same goals...
So Much For The American Ideals You Both Say You Hold So Dear To Your
Ever-Loving Hearts.
Hmmm, if it were me, I'd be on the look-out for the perpetrators of the
'left-wing' vs. 'right-wing' mythology if you want to keep The American
Dream alive for much longer.
And you have the gall to say I don't love this country.
SHAME ON ALL YOU BICKERING FOOLS!
Rev. 11D Meow!
"Sumbuny" <Sum...@THISSHOULDBEGONEcox.net> wrote in message
news:TeQag.130436$k%3.112938@dukeread12...
Be sure to add some Philip K. Dick readings in there at some point.
His "Time Out Of Joint" is quite fascinating...
Rev. 11D Meow!
And to think I pulled the name "CurseZone" outta my butt
just for you, MP... ;-)
LAH
"Emma Anne" <emma...@mac.com> wrote in message
news:1hfha3k.86ejmt19hpu4zN%emma...@mac.com...
Good but I'd like to add yet another:
6. Those people who are so enamored by their own thoughts and so sure they
must spread "the message" that they cross post the same message to two or
more newsgroups. They are not interested in supporting others or having an
open discussion; they are interested in proselytizing.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
than shills for Big Pharma. The majority of intelligent people see
right thought them and dismiss them as nothing but flaks. That being
said, our work here is important to get the verifiable facts out to the
public and to offer them real support and assistance. We will continue
to do this essential work. Let the Probies of the world keep on the
nonsensical role, because they really don’t fool anybody, except
perhaps themselves!
Rev. 11D Meow!
If you're so cured and all, what's your point being here?
BTW, what, exactly, is Your Cure.
All you seem to talk about is Other People's Problems,
not your own. What, exactly, is YOUR diagnosis, eh?
Mine is still in processing mode.
Seeing the Psychologist for assessment/eval tomorrow.
I simply Can't Wait to see my MMPI-2 and Shipley results!
I think I'll ask for one of those psychic healers they now have
available in the MH clinic's lobby, right next to the
veggie juice bar and haberdashery...
Then I'll run on over to Christian Science Reading Room
and check-out some books on healing the soul through
prayer and shit.
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in message
news:1147961637....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
nonsensical role, because they really dont fool anybody, except
perhaps themselves!
MothWrangler
Those posters would fall under category #1--the true believer, don't you
think?
Nancy
Unique, like everyone else
MothWrangler
Hooray for my kids' schools which have many of the banned books on their
required reading lists.
And a horray for my local public library system which over the years has
steadfastly resisted efforts to have books pulled from their shelves.
MothWrangler
> "Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" <st_brigids...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Rev. 11D Meow! wrote:
>>
>>>"HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:n7SdnZLpxN9Tq_bZ...@comcast.com...
>>
>><snipped>
>>
>>>>It is a discussion group for both PRO and CON... it goes both ways.
>>>>
>>>>It you want a "support" group, go to moderated forums like Curezone,
>>>>Mothering.com and others. Those are the ones where dissent is banned, and
>>>>actually providing real data is considered "trolling".
>>>
>>>
>>>Funny how that works on this planet.
>>>George Orwell was so on-target,
>>>it isn't even funny.
>>>
>>>Freedom is Tyranny
>>
>>
>>Ya know, YD got really spooked when she read 1984 this year. I wonder
>>if it's made the banned books list yet. The Grapes of Wrath is one of
>>the 50 most banned books, as is Animal Farm. I'm waiting to see what
>>other good books wind up on the list. I'm making the kids' Junior and
>>Senior Literature reading lists from the banned books list.
>
>
> Where can I find this list. I agree that it looks like the canon for
> educating children.
>
> The Grapes of Wrath had more influence on my thinking and attitudes
> than almost any other book I read when I was young. (My parents
> encouraged reading of anything that wasn't outright pornography.)
That's pretty much the rule in this house too.
The one thing about being liberal about what children read, however, is
that you also have to teach critical reasoning skills to them, so they
understand the difference between fact and fiction, that all non-fiction
isn't true, and that all opinions aren't entitled to the same weight.
Unfortunately, too many kids aren't taught those kind of skills, either
at home or in schools.
> What is almost as amazing is that there will be people reading my
> words here who have not only not read Steinbeck but will not even know
> his name.
If I had to name one favorite American author, it would probably have to
be Steinbeck.
MothWrangler
> MothWrangler <mothwr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>IMNSHO, there are several different subsets:
>>
>>1. The "true believers," zealots who truly believe they have "the
>>answer" to whatever is generally being discussed in the group.
>>They post in their mission to spread "the word"--whether others seem
>>receptive or not, help others finally understand "the truth," and covert
>>others to their way of thinking.
>>
>>2. The immature. Posters who are either kids or never developed
>>emotionally beyond middle school who think it's fun to cause a little
>>ruckus in the groups.
>>
>>3. The mentally disturbed. People who are delusional, paranoid, or have
>>other behavioral or emotional issues that result in their annoying or
>>abusing other posters, or posting disturbing content.
>>
>>4. The just plain evil. Just as IRL, there are people in groups who are
>>just mean, vile, ugly, nasty, who enjoy abusing and hurting others.
>>
>>
>>There may be more subgroups, but IMO, those are the biggies.
>
>
> Nice summation! I think I'd add one more:
>
> 5. The people who just can't let go. They get into a conflict and
> cannot let the other person have the last word. They can't agree to
> disagree, and no error or misjudgment (in their view) can be allowed to
> stand without many rounds of argument. These people aren't trolls in
> the traditional sense, but they can mess up a newsgroup just as bad,
> without ever meaning to.
And, of course, there are all sorts of possible combinations of the
various subsets.
I suspect that some of the true believers may have some mental health
issues, for example. Same with the "can't let go" group.
LAH
"MothWrangler" <mothwr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4d3m5uF...@individual.net...
Yes, except for their propensity for cross posting and rudeness. There is
something down right rude about cross posting. It's like yelling in a
crowded room because you're just positive everyone wants or should hear what
you are saying. There is total disregard for others by interrupting their
conversations and attempting to dominate the conversations of everyone in
the entire room. It's just plain bad manners. Some preachers or "true
believers" can be very polite but then there are the others......... I'll
agree there are similarities between #1 and #6. Perhaps #6 it could be
included as a sub-category of #1. What do you think?
Jan Drew
"marcia" <des...@insight.rr.com> wrote
Mon, May 15 2006 5:19 pm
*I'm not going to stoop to her level any more, respond to her
posts*
[ Seems she is a lot like Mark Probert and just can't help herself ]
Jan Drew wrote:
> "HCN" <h...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > Try the American Library Associations Banned Book Week website:
> > http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/bannedbooksweek.htm
> >
> > Note that (to keep on topic) that despite the efforts of some, m.h.a is
> > NOT moderated. Some will try to tell dissenters to go away, but they
> > have
> > no actual power (though they try to spam with nonsense threads about
> > "bloggers" on usenet). This is very unlike some the forum at
> > Mothering.com which will not only ban members who post information that
> > counters their mindset, but will delete the offending messages, and even
> > whole threads (a process known as "Stalin's airbrush", where
> > embarrassing
> > bits of history are covered up). This also happens at CureZone, and
> > other
> > places where those who do not toe the line end up something like this
> > screen shot:
> > http://www.rat
No comprendé, Jan. Did you intend to say something?
Mark Probert
Mark Probert
Around 20 years ago I met a fellow who was the named plaintiff in a suit
that went to SCOTUS on a school district's removal of books. He was one
tough cookie to take on the district as a student.
"Justice Brennan noted the Court had previously held that students do
not "shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression
at the schoolhouse gate," Tinker v. Des Moines School District, 393 U.S.
503, 506 (1969). The First Amendment in this case included the right to
read library books of the student's choosing.
Justice Blackmun, concurring, concluded that a proper balance between
the limited constitutional restriction imposed on school officials by
the First Amendment and the broad state authority to regulate education,
would be struck by holding that school officials may not remove books
from school libraries for the purpose of restricting access to the
political ideas or social perspectives discussed in the books, when that
action is motivated simply by the officials' disapproval of the ideas
involved."
Mark Probert
They are a scary group. Closed minded to the extreme.
Mark Probert
> Mark Probert wrote on 02-02-06
>
> Anecdotes are bullshit.
Not to prove personal experience.
Mark Probert
>>>>>> Rev. 11D Meow! wrote:
>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you, but nobody 'leads' a Usenet newsgroup.
Unless they're the only one posting in it. Then it isn't really a group
at all, is it. Unless that person is using a whole bunch of sock 'nyms
to amuse themselves. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS. Google showed exactly zero hits for your Independent
National Open Pharmaceutical United Laboratories (INOPUL) thingie. Where
is its website and what is its mission statement?
>>>>>> Like when he infested asad on a daily basis, to disrupt the
group and provide bogus information.
>>>>> Poor Mark is one to talk.
>>>> Yes, I am. I stated that I had no intention of disruption, merely
fact finding in the context of what I explained.
>>>>
>>>> You do like to leave out the important stuff.
>>>>
>>>> And, this is not in the spirit of L&LL.
>>> Neither are your LIES.
>> Jan, I failed to find the official document where you were appointed
Usenet's judge & jury of what is a lie, and who says them.
>
> I don't need any official document.
So, you admit that you are self-appointed.
> You made a claim. The real burden of proof is on the accuser.
>
> Mark, you are the accuser. Either show the claim is the truth or be
consided a liar.
I was the accuser of precisely what? Claimant that you are a
self-appointed abuser who calls people liars merely because you:
1. Disagree with them?
2. Want to discredit everything they say?
3. They are Jewish?
4. They are Catholic?
5. They are Gay?
6. They are atheists?
> I regret to inform you, this is not in the spirit of L&LL.
Yes, your antics are surely not in the spirit of L&LL.
>>>> I must tell you that Jan has made some comments that could be inferred
>>>> to be slurs about people who are disabled with emotional problems.
>> (I fixed the attributions).
>
> Showing more of your dishonesty.
Nope, showing how you seem to screw up attributions more than anyone else.
> Searched all groups Results 1 - 1 of 1 for "I must tell you
that Jan has made some comments that could be inferred"
group:alt.support.attn-deficit author:markp...@lumbercartel.com (0.39
seconds)
>
>
>
>> Jan did not deny this.
>
> Poor, sad, dishonest, lying, not in the spirit of L&LL..Mark Probert
>
Mark Probert
On occasion crossposting is actually beneficial. Some topics span the
interests of several groups, thus having input from them can enhance the
discussion.
Mark Probert
> In article <1hfha3k.86ejmt19hpu4zN%emma...@mac.com>, emma...@mac.com
> used fingers to say...
>> MothWrangler <mothwr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> IMNSHO, there are several different subsets:
>>>
>>> 1. The "true believers," zealots who truly believe they have "the
>>> answer" to whatever is generally being discussed in the group.
>>> They post in their mission to spread "the word"--whether others seem
>>> receptive or not, help others finally understand "the truth," and covert
>>> others to their way of thinking.
>>>
>>> 2. The immature. Posters who are either kids or never developed
>>> emotionally beyond middle school who think it's fun to cause a little
>>> ruckus in the groups.
>>>
>>> 3. The mentally disturbed. People who are delusional, paranoid, or have
>>> other behavioral or emotional issues that result in their annoying or
>>> abusing other posters, or posting disturbing content.
>>>
>>> 4. The just plain evil. Just as IRL, there are people in groups who are
>>> just mean, vile, ugly, nasty, who enjoy abusing and hurting others.
>>>
>>>
>>> There may be more subgroups, but IMO, those are the biggies.
>> Nice summation! I think I'd add one more:
>>
>> 5. The people who just can't let go. They get into a conflict and
>> cannot let the other person have the last word. They can't agree to
>> disagree, and no error or misjudgment (in their view) can be allowed to
>> stand without many rounds of argument. These people aren't trolls in
>> the traditional sense, but they can mess up a newsgroup just as bad,
>> without ever meaning to.
>
I would put those people on the top of your list.
Jan Drew
The only thing you have accomplished is proving you are a LIAR...AGAIN.
Pathetic.
"Mark Probert" <markp...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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Jan Drew
Mark Probert
Jan Drew
> Jan Drew wrote:
>> Mark Probert wrote on 02-02-06
>>
>> Anecdotes are bullshit.
>
> Not to prove personal experience.
Poor Mark.
That is EXACTLY what happened in the thread where you made your remark.
The Real t wrote:
>> Will you please post clear proof that using alternatives is "a
>> prescription for death" Like comparing the numbers of deaths with a given
>> disease treated by alternatives as opposed to the same disease treated by
>> MDs. Cancer will do nicely. Thank you, trt
As usual...you wrote:
> the claim is made that alternatives can help. Please provide evidence of
> one that actually cures. Such evidence should include documentation that a
> malignancy of some form existed, that there was no treatment at any time
> other than the alternative, and that the patient is disease free several
> years afterwards.
> you cannot.
True, I cannot. You may not have noticed that I said so in my post. But, not
having sufficient proof for you is not proof that my words were not true.
I KNOW a person who was diagnosed, and refused to go along with the accepted
treatment. That person is alive today, some 10 -12 years later. With no sign
of a reoccurrence. It may surprise you , but most people who get well
without a doctor, do not keep records. They just get on with their life. trt
Of course..you are the one who blathered:
Nice that you agree with a prescription for death.
When you were aked to post clear proof...
You could NOT.
AGAIN.
When, OH when will you ever learn to stop making such stupid remarks?!?!
Vashti
> And then there are those people who make lists. ;-)
That's no problem: I usually lose the anyway!<g>
It's when I was so confused that I needed to make a step-by-step list to
help me cook dinner that I started thinking lists weren't all that
great: I forgot to mention salad or veg on that list. It's too late once
the main course is on the table.
Vashti