add and anxiety
vh
my psychiatrist and therapist both said they'd never heard of anyone with
add/adhd say they also have anxiety. what to make of this comment?
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Howard S Shubs
wrote:
> my psychiatrist and therapist both said they'd never heard of anyone with
> add/adhd say they also have anxiety. what to make of this comment?
"You learn something new every day, yes?"
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Darren
"vh" <no...@none.xyz> wrote in message
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It proves the theory that doc's are nuts.
I have the same problem as you. Not real frequent, but things that are
against the grain, turn up the anxiety. For me.
vh
news:howard-FE550A....@enews.newsguy.com:
> In article <Xns9370C9C27...@216.65.98.28>, vh
> <no...@none.xyz> wrote:
>
>> my psychiatrist and therapist both said they'd never heard of anyone
>> with add/adhd say they also have anxiety. what to make of this
>> comment?
>
> "You learn something new every day, yes?"
>
Then:
"I've been in practice over thirty years"
or to prove he's experienced with these matters:
"I have one patient whose parents brought him here from another state to
see me about ADHD"
I'm frustrated. I don't respond well to SSRIs so they want to put me on
a Tricyclic AD, which I doubt will go very well. He doesn't even know
which yet, he's got to consult his books or something.
He thinks anxiety is why I can't focus and I suggested maybe it's the
other way around. Who the fuck knows. I'm about ready to give up.
Howard S Shubs
wrote:
> Then:
>
> "I've been in practice over thirty years"
"When are you going to be ready for reality?"
or
"When are you going to have seen everything?"
or
"So, Horatio, there is nothing new under the sun?"
or
"I must be one of the wonders of God's own creation, like Natalie
Merchant sings about!"
or
"Newbie."
> He thinks anxiety is why I can't focus and I suggested maybe it's the
> other way around. Who the fuck knows. I'm about ready to give up.
How 'bout try a different doctor? If they don't take an EEG, they're
worthless.
XcitableOne
those (children/adults) with AD/HD.
Here's a snippet of an article..
Understanding and recognizing ADHD
Dr Nikos Myttas
Consultant Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist
Finchley Memorial Hospital, London
Co-morbidity
All too often the unitary approach to diagnosing neuropsychiatric conditions
prevails, and other co-morbid conditions are either overlooked or not paid
sufficient attention. Because ADHD is a significant educational, social and
emotional handicap, it is exceptional rather than the rule that it exists in
pure form. Over 50% of sufferers will have either one or more of the following
conditions at the same time (Bird et al, 1993):
Specific learning difficulties
Conduct disorder
Oppositional defiant disorder
Anxiety disorder
Affective disorder
Substance abuse
Developmental language delay
Obsessive compulsive disorder
Asperger syndrome
Tic disorder
Tourette's syndrome
The degree of impairment depends on the type and number of co-existing
conditions, which may require different or additional treatment. Co-morbidity
does not explain causality; it merely states that two or more conditions are
present at the same time.
Here's two more:
http://www.add.about.com/library/weekly/aa011202a.htm
http://www.add.org/images2/worry.htm
Hope this helps.
XcitableOne
>Subject: Re: add and anxiety
>From: "Darren" not.fee...@m-bots.sorry
>Date: 5/3/2003 7:08 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <ZC_sa.719109$3D1.397421@sccrnsc01>
marcie
>
> my psychiatrist and therapist both said they'd never heard of anyone with
> add/adhd say they also have anxiety. what to make of this comment?
>
>
happening to our generation. He believed it was that anxious people were
choosing add mates. he said the anxiety kept the add person from not going
into stuff that was too crazy and the anxious person enjoyed the idea of and
encouragement to do the kinda stuff the adhd person had. it was just a
theory but it fit my family well. I have an anxeity disorder and add, not
surprising when it is clear my dad is an add carrier and my mom has anxiety
disorders (wethere they have been diagnosed as such or not i'm not sure but
she has them)
Marcie
If you want i'll talk to your doc about it or show my letter
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marcie
> Howard S Shubs <how...@shubs.net> wrote in
> news:howard-FE550A....@enews.newsguy.com:
>
> > In article <Xns9370C9C27...@216.65.98.28>, vh
> > <no...@none.xyz> wrote:
> >
> >> my psychiatrist and therapist both said they'd never heard of anyone
> >> with add/adhd say they also have anxiety. what to make of this
> >> comment?
> >
> > "You learn something new every day, yes?"
> >
>
> Then:
>
> "I've been in practice over thirty years"
>
> or to prove he's experienced with these matters:
>
> "I have one patient whose parents brought him here from another state to
> see me about ADHD"
>
>
> I'm frustrated. I don't respond well to SSRIs so they want to put me on
> a Tricyclic AD, which I doubt will go very well. He doesn't even know
> which yet, he's got to consult his books or something.
>
> He thinks anxiety is why I can't focus and I suggested maybe it's the
> other way around. Who the fuck knows. I'm about ready to give up.
>
depressants i took it did not activate mania, cause rapid cycling, helped
the best of all AD for concentration and was good for sleep. Unfortunately
for me it didn't help the depression. tryciclics are good powerful drugs and
affect more transmitters than an ssri does and can help more things. on the
other hand they have annoying but not all that dangerous side effects (dry
mouth is very common if you get it brush like crazy, i and my dentist didnt'
know that dry mouth increases the rot rate on teeth and i got a good number
of fillings until i saw another dentist who told me...other than that i just
learned to always have something to drink around to deal with it.
Marcie
marcie
"Howard S Shubs" <how...@shubs.net> wrote in message
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i was getting withdrawal from a drug (i did get some withdrawal but twelve
hours later so it didn't show on the test) and when i had wierd things
happen when i took 150 mg of my mood stabilizer instead of 100. of course
pracitices vary, and with a child they may do the eeg to rule out seizures i
suppose. they knew i didn't get seizures. they are harmless though, i tend
to fall asleep (not deaply kinda level 1) when having them done and the
person doing them has to tell me to open my eyes and think of something to
wake me up again about 5 times during the half hour test.
nknisley
>
> Hi,
>
> my psychiatrist and therapist both said they'd never heard of anyone with
> add/adhd say they also have anxiety. what to make of this comment?
They may never have heard anyone "say" that, but *surely* they've read
that ADHD and anxiety disorders are frequently comorbid conditions in
studies, professional journals, books, right? ...
IMNSHO, both your psychiatrist and therapist aren't very knowledgeable.
I've read many books, articles, and studies that note the connection
between ADHD and anxiety disorders.
How could they be unaware of the ADHD-anxiety connection when *the* book
about ADHD, "Driven to Distraction," devotes an entire section to "ADD
with Anxiety"?
Also, there's these examples of recent articles that mention the link
between ADHD and anxiety:
"Comorbidity is widely prevalent in adult ADHD, affecting by some
estimates up to 3 in 4 individuals with the disorder. The mood disorders
(major depression, bipolar disorder, and dysthymia) have a comorbidity
ranging from 19% to 37%. For anxiety disorders, comorbidity is 25% to
50%...."
That quote is from the article "Adult ADHD: Recent Advances in Diagnosis
and Treatment" which can be read in its entirety at:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/443113
(That's a very good article in general, IMO.)
Then there's this article: "Psychiatric Impairment More Likely in
Children With ADHD" (Brown University Child and Adolescent Behavior
Letter 18(12):4, 2002) which says, in part, "children with ADHD were
significantly more likely than those without the attentional disorder to
have a higher prevalence of mood disorders, other disruptive behavior,
anxiety disorders and substance use disorders,..."
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/446624
[You may need to register with Medscape to read those two articles, but
registration is free.]
And, then there's was a fairly recent WebMD article about a study which
indicates there may be a genetic link between at least 14 disorders:
ADHD
depression
bulimia nervosa
generalized anxiety disorder
panic disorder
obsessive-compulsive disorder
posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD)
social phobia
dysthymic disorder
migraine
irritable bowel syndrome
fibromyalgia
cataplexy
premenstrual dysphoric disorder (PMDD)
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/60/67242
I'm sure that a PubMed search would bring up numerous studies that
mention the ADHD-anxiety disorder link.
Nancy
Unique, like everyone else
Sophie Sensat
> Hi,
>
> my psychiatrist and therapist both said they'd never heard of anyone with
> add/adhd say they also have anxiety. what to make of this comment?
Get a third opinion! I know several people who have both ADD and
anxiety, including myself. Even if one is caused by the other--and it's
impossible to be sure--this doesn't negate either of the conditions.
Sophie
--
scse...@simons-rock.edu "Sorry, but the medications
normally prescribed for treating ADHD do not create 'zombies'.
Among other things the students have a pulse and they do not
periodically misplace body parts." - J. Clarke
Morph Grrl
>Then:
>
>"I've been in practice over thirty years"
>
>or to prove he's experienced with these matters:
>
>"I have one patient whose parents brought him here from another state to
>see me about ADHD"
Say, "So what? It doesn't mean you necessarily keep up with all of
the current material...
>
>I'm frustrated. I don't respond well to SSRIs so they want to put me on
>a Tricyclic AD, which I doubt will go very well. He doesn't even know
>which yet, he's got to consult his books or something.
>
>He thinks anxiety is why I can't focus and I suggested maybe it's the
>other way around. Who the fuck knows. I'm about ready to give up.
Anxiety can cause focus problems, but if the anxiety is medicated and
you still have ADHD like symptoms, well then you could be ADHD.
There's still some other conditions, though, rule those out first.
Educate yourself as much as possible. Lots of wonderful info on ADHD
and other disorders. That way you can be able to have an educated
conversation with the doctor and play "stump the physician".
All kidding aside, I wish you best of luck with your meds regimen.
MorphGrrl