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drag...@myremarq.com

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Apr 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/16/99
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I see many parents of ADD kids, and parents of non-ADD
kids. The ADD parents are always scared to let their child
feel any pain, and are sadly overprotective. The child is always
in charge. By never knowing limits, the children are terrified
of their own power. It is clear to any MD or nurse who works with
parents and children that ADD is a parent's disease. Certain
cultural patterns will create frightened little princes and
princesses, and other cultures have never raised ADD children.
Non-ADD parents are in charge, and their children feel safe.

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Apr 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/16/99
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drag...@myremarq.com wrote:
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> I see many parents of ADD kids, and parents of non-ADD
> kids. The ADD parents are always scared to let their child
> feel any pain, and are sadly overprotective. The child is always
> in charge. By never knowing limits, the children are terrified
> of their own power. It is clear to any MD or nurse who works with
> parents and children that ADD is a parent's disease. Certain
> cultural patterns will create frightened little princes and
> princesses, and other cultures have never raised ADD children.
> Non-ADD parents are in charge, and their children feel safe.

Nice troll.

(First post to Usenet under this alias. Go figure.)

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That puts it not unto the touch to win or lose it all.

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Apr 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/17/99
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In article <K5RR2.561$_c.192379@WReNphoon3>,

drag...@myremarq.com wrote:
> I see many parents of ADD kids, and parents of non-ADD
> kids. The ADD parents are always scared to let their child
> feel any pain, and are sadly overprotective.

Always? Bit of a generalization, isn't it?

> The child is always in charge.

Always? Bit of a generalization, isn't it?

> By never knowing limits, the children are terrified
> of their own power.

Why do I think that reading situations correctly isn't your forte.

> It is clear to any MD or nurse who works with parents and children that ADD
> is a parent's disease.

What do you mean, that it affects the parents, or that it's caused by the
parents? You're not making sense, silly. Do you speak for all MDs and
nurses? Do you work in a hospital? Maybe changing sheets or washing bedpans?
Maybe one too many urine fumes making it into la cabeza?

> Certain cultural patterns will create frightened little princes and
> princesses, and other cultures have never raised ADD children.

Oh ya, I forgot. ADD doesn't exist. DOH!!!

Good thing that you haven't claimed to be a doctor, because you're obviously
too dim to understand concepts like disorder or brain. There certainly are
some stupid doctors, but don't worry - you don't come across as one. You're
more like a stupid troll. Hey - have you heard the latest - masturbation
causes hairy palms and blindness. Make sure you tell all your 'patients'
about this. Don't forget about bloodletting too, and if you see a kid with
ADD symptoms from one of those 'good' cultures you better prescribe an
exorcism. If that doesn't work, they must be a witch or warlock, and then you
must burn them at the stake. To trap them, wear a garlic necklace and bring
holy water to sprinkle on them cuz it burns their skin. Say "oopsie doopsie
banananananana weeniehead weeniehead" three times with preserved foot of newt
on your right shoulder. If that doesn't work, I heard that the cure to ADD
is to kiss a speckled dog on the snout.

> Non-ADD parents are in charge, and their children feel safe.

No, your anus is in charge and the empty space between your ears is scared as
hell.


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Stulchinsk

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Apr 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/17/99
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>It is clear to any MD or nurse who works with parents and children that ADD is
a parent's disease.

And in some places around the world, they treat headaches by drilling holes
through your skull to let out the demons. I consider your sweeping
generalizations to be similarly ignorant.

Kevin O'Connor

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Apr 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/18/99
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What does the MD stand for -- mentally deficient or merely
dumb?

drag...@myremarq.com wrote:
>
> I see many parents of ADD kids, and parents of non-ADD
> kids. The ADD parents are always scared to let their child

> feel any pain, and are sadly overprotective. The child is always
> in charge. By never knowing limits, the children are terrified
> of their own power. It is clear to any MD or nurse who works with
> parents and children that ADD is a parent's disease. Certain


> cultural patterns will create frightened little princes and
> princesses, and other cultures have never raised ADD children.

> Non-ADD parents are in charge, and their children feel safe.
>

Gail Miller

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Apr 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/18/99
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Stulchinsk wrote in message
<19990417123647...@ng-cg1.aol.com>...

>>It is clear to any MD or nurse who works with parents and children that
ADD is
>a parent's disease.
>
>And in some places around the world, they treat headaches by drilling holes
>through your skull to let out the demons. I consider your sweeping
>generalizations to be similarly ignorant.

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Apr 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/18/99
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For this opinion I wish only that you raise a child with this problem
Accidents, delimas, and moments packed with Anxiety as well as self mutilation
and violence, may make a parent appear to be what you have observed. Perhaps
the parent is just second guessing the next moment or finds it easier to
prevent "extreme moments" in public due to the society's reaction to discipline
and children-parent confrontations. If you personally do not have an ADD or
ADHD child, may one of your children or someone close, (and I truly hate
wishing this on anyone) have one to deal with and may you come to realize that
all the medications, counselling and behavioral modification and training can
never fix this ailment. A parent may have to resort to love and coddeling to
keep a child with ADD, and ADHD in control in a society that has no tolerance
or understanding of what this is all about. I pray for you. Perhaps you could
do some one on one research before you harden you heart to such an opinion.

jody_...@my-dejanews.com

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Apr 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/18/99
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In article <K5RR2.561$_c.192379@WReNphoon3>,
drag...@myremarq.com wrote:
> It is clear to any MD or nurse who works with
> parents and children that ADD is a parent's disease.

How do you explain the fact that ADD is 75% inherited? I'm adopted, no one
in my family besides me is ADD, and that includes my two brothers who are
close to me in age. How would you account for that? What about the brain
studies that show that the brains of ADD children metabolize more slowly in
the frontal lobes than those of other children? That their dopamine levels
are lower? How is it that a drug can remedy a "parent's disease?" For an
MD, you are sadly misinformed. Not that that's unusual.

Martin G. Diehl

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Apr 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/19/99
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jody_...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> In article <K5RR2.561$_c.192379@WReNphoon3>,
> drag...@myremarq.com wrote:
> > It is clear to any MD or nurse who works with
> > parents and children that ADD is a parent's disease.
>
> How do you explain the fact that ADD is 75% inherited?
> I'm adopted, no one in my family besides me is ADD, and
> that includes my two brothers who are close to me in age.
> How would you account for that? What about the brain
> studies that show that the brains of ADD children metabolize
> more slowly in the frontal lobes than those of other children?
> That their dopamine levels are lower? How is it that a drug
> can remedy a "parent's disease?" For an MD, you are sadly
> misinformed. Not that that's unusual.

Maybe MD thinks that parents get it from their kids. <g>

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Sue L.

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Apr 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/19/99
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Here's my $.02 worth. I'll give you 24 hours with my cute little 6 year old
daughter while she is not on any type of medication. Bet you a million you
will come begging me to take her back after a couple hours at most. Hummm,
parent's disease - well then why doesn't my other daughter suffer from the
same disease "I" have instilled in my 6 year old.
Ignorance sure is bliss....isn't it!!

Sue L.

Robin Seer

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Apr 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/20/99
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What a load of crap!!! Sorry...can't help myself. I have absolute control over my
kids. I'm not saying that they never make mistakes...but they seldom repeat the same
one. I was teasing my daughter (non add) the other day and told her she obeyed me
because she was afraid of me. She told me.."mother, I am not physically afraid of
you(she does out weigh me 60 lbs.) I am afraid of your bad opinion of me!" My add son
is a very good kid....just has trouble with school work. I have never let my kids act
like asses...and this was before Evan was ever diagnosed at 18 I might add.

Robin

SusanS29

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Apr 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/24/99
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I did not see who said this originally:

"> It is clear to any MD or nurse who works with
> parents and children that ADD is a parent's disease."

But -- CLEARLY -- it reflects on the MD or nurse who is saying this -- and
quite badly. It does not reflect reality, or truth, or insight, or
understanding... or compassion ... or charity ... or empathy ... or any good
thing in a human soul.

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Apr 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/24/99
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In article <19990424131406...@ng-cf1.aol.com>,

Susan, don't worry about that stupid post. The 'doctor' who wrote it had to
go attend to a vasectomy he botched when someone found out that he wasn't
really a doctor, but a nine-year-old in a lab jacket and stilts.

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Nick/Kate Coe

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Apr 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/24/99
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Does that mean that "Dougie Howser MD", wasn't based on a true story? Star, I'm
tired, tired, I tell you, of you shattering my illusions.
Kate (weeping quietly) Coe

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Apr 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/25/99
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In article <372260FB...@pacbell.net>,

Nick/Kate Coe <nc...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Does that mean that "Dougie Howser MD", wasn't based on a true story? Star,
I'm
> tired, tired, I tell you, of you shattering my illusions.

No, no Kate!! Dry your eyes!! Doogie *was* real!! It was a real show, and
that wasn't an actor!! Those were real patients!! The show went off the air
because he got pulled over for drunk driving when he was sixteen and his
parents grounded him from TV shows for the rest of his life. :P

Sweetpatet

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Apr 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/28/99
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If you are doctor, you are a nut! Some parents of ADHD kids are soo stressed
they dont know up from down. Some of us do not coddle our ADHD kids, but yes
they are in control because we as parents sometimes have no way of being in
control of these kids. I would feel blessed to have a "normal" child that I
could be in control of. I am extremely tough on my kid but he always
wins.!!!!!!!

bene...@tower.dla.utexas.edu

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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susa...@aol.com (SusanS29) writes:

> I did not see who said this originally:
>
> "> It is clear to any MD or nurse who works with
> > parents and children that ADD is a parent's disease."
>
> But -- CLEARLY -- it reflects on the MD or nurse who is saying this -- and
> quite badly. It does not reflect reality, or truth, or insight, or
> understanding... or compassion ... or charity ... or empathy ... or any good
> thing in a human soul.

I was gonna say, taking that at face-value, that's kinda the
definition of ANY genetically inherited condition.

(PLEASE don't make me put on my asbestos suit! I said that in a very
tongue-in-cheek fashion!)

And yes, whoever posted the original was a weenie poot-head.

Tom

Gail Miller

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Apr 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/30/99
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bene...@tower.dla.utexas.edu wrote in message ...

>susa...@aol.com (SusanS29) writes:
>
>> But -- CLEARLY -- it reflects on the MD or nurse who is saying this --
and
>> quite badly. It does not reflect reality, or truth, or insight, or
>> understanding... or compassion ... or charity ... or empathy ... or any
good
>> thing in a human soul.


Trouble is we (parents and sufferers) are at the mercy of these people. In
the UK especially we have this attitude. *They* are the ones with the
power - the power to refuse to treat or even believe ADD exists.

We have a report from a consultant Psychiatrist from 4 years ago which says
that the reason for my son's difficulties is " a lack of consistant boundary
setting by the parents" and the fact that "he is bored at school". Complete
s***e! We passed through the same 'proffessionals' office last year and she
then* said that my son's success for the first 14 months of taking Ritalin
was a placebo effect .... for 14 months?

Seemd to me that these people are dangerous - they are playing with our
childrens lives, yet will *not* learn about things

Gail
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