By Evelyn Pringle, TruthOut.org. Posted December 14, 2009.
http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/144538/why_are_we_drugging_our_kids/
Well done!!! Evelyn Pringle has flushed this one out!
This should shut down the Peter Bees, the Probys and the Officers and
their followers for a long time.
We are winning the War for the hearts and minds of all people but as
the General always states, "much more needs to be done!"
Well done!!! Evelyn Pringle has flushed this one out!
This should shut down the Peter Bees, the Probys and the Officers and
their followers for a long time.
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Feel free to expand your scientific reasoning here.
It's already been done, but thanks for asking. By the way, please do
not chime in unless we request the likes of you or your cult. We are
trying to keep these health-care groups kook-free this year.
We have only posted and will continue to post only verivable and
reliable information. I ask for your cult to do the same, if possible!
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You have posted nothing that demanded verification recently other than
photographs.
You are only one, hence the use of "we" makes you appear foolish.
Everyone knows the women have no use for you other than being a stand in
punching bag. That went for Margaret as well.
First off, I have never posted any photographs or know a
"Margaret" ..except for Margaret Thacther - that is - I know about
her!!
I guess you must be referring to some child porno pictures your cult
has posted.
Again I insist that your cult DENOUNCE all form of pornography and
anti-religious sentiments.
I pray your cult is not going back to the bad old days of Porno
Parsons.
Sir Arthur
Sir Arthur
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Then do you also deny knowing Klarissa?
I ask you and your cult once again to DENOUNCE all form of
pornography. Or are you really JOE PARSONS???
This is even worse than I thought Peter Bees = Joe "Porno" Parsons.
I guess it doesn't surprise me, but it is upsetting how LOW the IRON-
FIST of the PRO-DRUG syndicate have stooped to!
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Why are you skirting the issue? Answer my question, then I will answer
yours.
Do you deny knowing Klarissa?
Why do you and your cult REFUSE to denounce the filth that your cult
appear to promote. If we consider Porno Parsons, we have asked your
Big-Phrama-financed movement for well over a decade and a half to
reject that dirt. So let's start 15+ years ago and move forward. And
also, why do you refuse to answer the most basic questions that we
present. Is it because it is obvious you have no case to make?
We have always promoted honest, and integrity in unbiased medical
mental-health care research. You and your troubling group refuse to
do the same.
Please post all members of your immediate family so we can know who
and what we are dealing with.
Jan Drew has posted many times the FACTS regarding the guru of your
cult!
Plus, look at the title of this post: Why Sociopaths Sucking At The
American Public Tit Are Drugging American Children To Their Death.
This is where our efforts are focused, and I truthfully suggest that
you are on the wrong side of this issue. This is what is important.
Obviously!!
Sir Arthur
Are you ashamed of Klarissa?
Are you ashamed of your cults LONG-TERM connection to porn, and
perhaps child pron?? We are talking 15++ years now!!
Are you Joe Parsons??
Are you ashamed of being Joe?
You have already indirectly answered that, didn't you (Porno) Parsons?
Are YOU ashamed of your family? From I have heard from other members
of these newsgroups, it would NOT surprise me!
> Why do you and your cult REFUSE to denounce the filth that your cult
> appear to promote.
You are a lying sack of steaming male bovine excreta. No one promotes
pornography as you claim.
You look to manipulate women whom show that they are mentally
unstable. This has been your track record for years. You went after my
friend, Tim Brown, since he acknowledged that he suffered from a
mental illness.
You are worse than scum.
It's hard to comment on this when everything you write (and the other
members of your cult) makes absolutely no sense.
of these newsgroups, it would NOT surprise me!.
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So are you saying that Klarissa is part of your family?
No, I am not ashamed of my family. You have not heard otherwise and
cannot post proof of it either.
Funny how you talk about proof, since you have NEVER posted any, and
all our Pro-mental-health anti-corporate control of medicine side has
done is to post a voluminous amount of facts, data and statistics.
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Answer the question, who are you and please list ALL members of your
family which can be verified.
We know for a fact that Peter "B" is NOT your real name, what are YOU
covering up? Child p?
Also, I have asked you not to snip by well documented writings.
Honesty and the Pro-med/Pro false-diagnoses cult that you represent is
a true oxymoron. It simply does not compute.
Our side of honest medical non-corporate researchers have asked you
and your sect repeatedly, for well over a decade now, to denounce the
filth and that bile that you appear to promote. You simply do not
address it. I find that very disturbing. And then throw in Proby's
insane antics, which has been detailed consistently by Jan Drew, your
side simply has no case to make. And then to get bogged down in name-
calling, which has been cleared up many years ago, seems to even the
most casual observer to be a non-starter.
Our side, the side of proper mental-health care, have to draw the
proverbial line in the sand. We have taken a moral and ethical stand
against the massive over drugging and the willful misdiagnoses of
children who are normal.
LET ME REPEAT THAT: Our side, the side of proper mental-health care,
have to draw the proverbial line in the sand. We have taken a moral
and ethical stand against the massive over drugging and the willful
misdiagnoses of children who are normal.
And by the way, I do not snip your cults rants, but perhaps I
should!!
Perhaps you ARE him? Or perhaps you are Assweepe Numbnuts, and don't
try to deny it! I have answered this question many times, but you
will not answer any of our questions regarding the subject of these
newsgroups (health care) and the subject of this thread (shutting down
the group.)
But one thing that cannot be denied is your cults obsession with porn
and your cults refusal not only to denounce that, but your cults
constant attacks on the First Amendment with guarantees the freedom of
religion! It would not surprise me if you dredged up Porno Parsons.
Your cults long established ties to that filth is not only disturbing
but raises more questions than it answers.
Your unwillingness to address these vital topics must draw suspicions
from even the most causal observer.
The topic at hand was shutting this newsgroup down, and I am beginning
to wonder if you and your cult are purposely trying to sabotage this
group with nonsense!
Our side, the side of proper mental-health care, have to draw the
proverbial line in the sand. We have taken a moral and ethical stand
against the massive over drugging and the willful misdiagnoses of
children who are normal.
LET ME REPEAT THAT: Our side, the side of proper mental-health care,
have to draw the proverbial line in the sand. We have taken a moral
and ethical stand against the massive over drugging and the willful
misdiagnoses of children who are normal.
We have struggled consistently and unapologetically against those that
want to harm our nations youth and those who exploit our people for
their own twisted aims.
Again I must insist that you remove yourself (and the other members of
your loony sect) form these newsgroups and let the honest researchers
try and straighten things out. We will notify you in the far future
when we have regained control of these groups. Of course this is
strictly a voluntary request, but I am sure you see the magnitude of
the problem. The massive damage that goof balls like Proby have done
may be irreversible, but we have to try! Even now, names like
author-
humanitarian Tim Brown and researcher Sara Freeman are but dim
memories. These honest and decent Patriots were driven out by the
IRON-FIST of the PRO-DRUG syndicate. But lucky for ALL MANKIND the
real researchers, such as myself, Linda, Ilena and Jan have just said
NO to the thugs, punks and fanatics that run rough-shod over honest
and decent people!
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Jerry, Has Klarissa passed away? I just read a post of yours that hints
at it. Be honest as this depends on your word. I do not care to create
pain over such a thing.
Again, I have NO idea what you are talking about..........
but you already know that.
To quote or to paraphrase Proby, you are a scum-bag liar. We have
been trying to get to the bottom of this for over a decade and a half.
Since I have already answered your questions multiple times, answer
mine just once. Your credibility, as already stated by your constant
NON-answers, is now zero.
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OK, thank you, gloves are now considered off.
Please enjoy the ride.
Jerry Kolnick
That was wonderful. I only wish our daughter Klarissa could have been
around to play with it. I know she would have enjoyed it.
November 10, 2009 at 11:02am
Did your daughter pass away? What do you know about this? Is that
what you are referring to. Did you do something with "gloves" that
you may want to admit to? If so, you may come clean now. What is the
connection between a certain death and some gloves you posses? Is this
why your family is disgraced by your behavior, and I heard your
daughter was "burned out" but zombie-like drugs. Is this what you are
hiding and projecting?
These are some very very unusual issues you are raising. What does
your guru Proby know about this, was this his idea. Is there some
kind of cover-up about "gloves" you want to address?
Does your pro-drug cult have no morals at all that you would destroy
your own child's brains?
How truly utterly sad.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You just acknowledged that reality makes no sense to you.
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<Snipped rant>
WOW! Are you ever acting strangely. Living in denial or tipped over the
edge mentally?
I can understand you denying your SO since she felt you were the cause
of what happened to your daughter, but to deny your own flesh and blood?
You Suh, are one very sick person. And I am finding out that many people
already know your full story, and your "missing" daughter is only a
recent thing.
More name calling only proves you to be a liar, Mark S Probert.
More proof you lied when you posted you read Torah everyday.
No match found for $$-dwco_inij7l-6.news.x-privat.org.
Now who is the liar, troll?
On Jan 4, 2:20�am, "Peter B" <origin...@frag.com> wrote:
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
> messagenews:916bfb1c-fc08-4958...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> cannot post proof of it either.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
Restore his post:
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> Jerry, Has Klarissa passed away? I just read a post of yours that hints
> at it. Be honest as this depends on your word. I do not care to create
> pain over such a thing.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
Look who is posting abour being honest.
His daughter if he has one is none of you business.
Having another fit, Mark S Probert?
I am afraid we have exposed their ties to porn, but even worse, to
kiddie porn. In addition, their unholy attacks on religion are totally
sickening.
Their recent attacks on women, especially women who are honest, brave
and true, makes me very suspicious about their motives.
This, plus so much more has discredited them completely.
Thank you for your excellent work Jan.
This should put the final nail in their Pro-drug cult!
I have a feeling that he is projecting something that he did. I have
been flushing out information about their sect.
They are anti-religious, anti-woman, they are pro mis-diagnosis.
This poor loser apparently lost a child due to either or both over-
drugging and/or something to do with a glove? I am not sure. This is
information that we have flushed out, but more needs to be done.
Perhaps he tried to save her with a glove but failed, he is not
forthcoming with information. But their cult never is.
But no matter, none of their cult will DENOUNCE their ties to pron,
perhaps kiddie porn. Our side have always publicly declared that porn
is wrong and have vilified all exploitation of both the young and
old. That their cult refuses to addresses this issue, something they
themselves have brought up over and over, is again very very
disturbing.
What Linda wrote about the criminal underworld is displayed right here
on these newsgroups with Bees, Officer and Proby.
We will continue on with our honest research and discourage more and
more people to just NO to zombie-like drugs that has been proven to
cause sudden death amongst the very young.
I rather pity their cult, they don't seem to have any support at all.
Of course considering the agenda they push, why would they?
Sir Arthur
I'm sorry about the death in you family, but considering that you are
(or were) the head the household, perhaps it isn't that surprising.
I would strongly recommend that you (and Proby) check yourselves into
a long-term mental-health facility. It DID help Proby years ago when
he did it, and it could help you.
I have a very strong feeling that your cult, which has whittled down
to a few members, is beginning to crack up. Believe or not, we don't
want to have that happen. We need a few Pro-Med useful idiots around
to show what happens when you get hooked on that stuff.
Good luck,,
Sir Arthur
I'm sorry about the death in you family, but considering you are the
head of the household, perhaps it was all for the best!! I would
recommend a 5-year stay at the nearest nursing home for you, it may be
your best shot at recovery!!
good luck,
sir arthur
Tut-tut, don't beat yourself up over this. Many families have
problems, yours included. Perhaps you could ask your spychiatrist
about electric shock treatment, it has helped other members of your
cult!! That's FYI!!
Sir Artio
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You are truly sick, and it is a good thing she is free from you, if you
weren't lying about it on the blog.
You did allude to over drugging her and creating the problem in the
first place, but then again you denied knowing her. Let's hope she does
not grow up like that woman's kids did (in this ng) and see what you did
with your spare time and trips to the far east.
They are beginning to crack up, I have never seen their cult go
totally berserk as they have done. We obviously hit some of their
buttons: kiddie porn, anti-religion, anti-women, pro-drugging of
children, misdiagnosis of children, etc. etc. etc.
This is good, we can try and get them to face their demons and start
the healing process. For Proby it is obviously too late, in fact, the
same holds true for Bees and Officer. That is all that is left of
their cult. At least they won't be able to recruit any new members!
Their cult used to have many many members, but now the 3 that are left
are nothing but a bunch of mimi's. I guess I did predict this would
happen, but it collapsed so suddenly. 2010 just began!! Oh well, so
be it!
Again, I am sorry for your loss, but it is obvious that the drugs not
only killed her (or him - I really don't know, since you are just a
troll) but it is obvious the zombie-like drugs have destroyed your
personality, if you ever had one.
Of course he lies, you have already proven 1000 times over about him
being disbarred. Perhaps 100,000 times over!!
It was I and I alone that helped Tim Brown. He was a true author-
humanitarian that Proby set out to destroy like he has destroyed so
many people on this newsgroup. But now his cult is finally cracking
up. One member claims to be an officer of some make-believe force,
another had a death in his family which he feels responsible for, and
he probably is in what I can tell.
Probys history is long and truthfully not worth mentioning history.
Who cares about him, he is a Grade A nut-case.
They try and confuse the public with their nonsense, but the public
does not have to be confused about ADD.
There is NO such thing as ADD and the medication used to treat it
causes death and destruction.
So let them post their drivel, we will counter it like we always do
with science, facts, data and real historical references.
That obviously scares the hell out of their cult!!
That is Proby at his most coherent!!
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Pretty creative even for a sociopath, Jerry Kolnick. Although it is
unusual for a sociopath to bend over so willingly for old women (and yes
I know you are an old fart too) unless they were controlled by their
mama's when young. So you fit that small mold of crazies, ruled by their
mommies, now ruled by a surrogate parent (your SO) but rebel in your
sniveling whining ways against the SO and stick up for old bags you
never met online. WOE to you if she ever finds out. She will most likely
cut off your manhood, what little of it that is left, and leave you for
sure. When she does I hope she turns over your child porn crap to the
police.
Snip-a-dee-doo-dah of a promoter of (too disgusting to print)
It looks like we have the kiddie pron crowd up in a tizzy. We have
hit a nerve, the pro-zombie-med crowd is in a melt-down! We WILL not
rest until every parent just says NO to zombie-like drugs being forced-
fed down their child;s throats!!
Thank you SO much Linda for shining a light on the criminal
underworld. With your help and incredible research, I truly feel we
have a chance to beat this mob. You have proven beyond a doubt Why
Sociopaths ARE Sucking At The American Public Tit Are Drugging
American Children To Their Death.
I guess the proof is the Bees, Officer and Proby cult. They have hit
rock-bottom, once again!!!
Sir Arthur
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Then I suppose you are against the likes of Jerry Kolnick whose child
had similar problems because he "forced" drugs down her throat?
> So let them post their drivel, we will counter it like we always do
> with science, facts, data and real historical references.
> That obviously scares the hell out of their cult!!-
With your well documented history on Usenet, you should just drop your
computer out a window.
Another fit.
>
> You just acknowledged that reality makes no sense to you.- Hide quoted text -
In your so-called-mind.
None of you business about anyone's family. Unless, like. Mark S
Probert who posts about his.
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Snip rant.
This is all off topic.
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Then why do you keep bring it up?
That proves you are a liar, and you are not sorry.
Now, SHUT UP!!!
Jan,
Don't feed these trolls. We have already proven their cults
connection to a massive drug syndicate and child porn. They MAY be
releated to Dyncorp.
Peter Bees is a paid shill/troll. He is NOT (by his own admission) a
real person.
Carry on and thank you for all your hard work!
Sir Arthur
> Peter Bees is a paid shill/troll.
Prove it asswipe.
Peter Bees is a paid shill/troll. He is NOT (by his own admission) a
real person.
Sir fArt
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You will find all Peters B's are real people,
Even you are when you go by your real name of Jerry Kolnick.
Sure doesn't seem you have much luck in picking females to align
yourself with, does it Jerry?
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Did your hatred for your SO spill over to your daughter? Have you no
shame?
Again, we are sorry about the "sudden" and "mysterious" death in your
family, but to not feel shame about it, makes all of us wonder about
you. No matter, it ties in with your other "activities" which have
already been laboriously listed. The ghost or Porno Parsons is really
proud of you --wink- - wink- (but we are not!)
Again, of course I am not him, and of course you are a troll who has
been tied to kiddie porn and a mysterious death in your family. Seek
counsel, I will let Jan know you are going to contact her.
Been there, done that! Thanks for the mention though!!
Sir Arthur
counsel, I will let noname know you are going to contact her.
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Jerry, I saw your picture and no why you are so ashamed of being you, I
saw the posts where nice Jewish girls from Russia turned you down, and
the Malaysian woman who took advantage of you. And you really should
keep your garage door closed so everyone in the world can see inside.
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Is this what the counselors tell you to say where you work? Pretend it
is someone else and slip it out a bit at a time? Well, you got what you
paid for. Nothing. I see you haven't been to Malaysia for a while. lol,
she dissed you that bad, eh?
> You will find all Peters B's are real people,
On Jan 11, 11:10 pm, "Peter B" <origin...@frag.com> wrote:
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
> messagenews:28088967-69d7-45c9...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
Evidently your employer knows that you, Jerry Kolnick posts as Sir fArt,
eh?
You promised him/her you would not post on company time? LOL
Must suck being you.
> > You will find all Peters B's are real people,
All D. Head's are still real D. Head's
You know, I finally understand how you could be so deluded. With your
cults obvious connection and fixation on kiddie pron, and your cults
connection to the massive overdrugging of children, it must be that
you somehow got involved in the drugs. How else can you explain your
obvious delusions.
Again, unlike your anti-human side, we do care about the tragic death
in your family. Perhaps for your sake it was all for the better,
considering your obvious delusions and your best buddy the disbarred
lawyer.
I will ask Jan to help you but first you must admit you need help.
Will you please?
We sure got a long way from this, but the cults nonsense gets getting
dredged up. Of course if you were them, what else do you have?
Calling Proby a liar is obvious. That would be like calling water
wet, and yet it always is.
Thank you again for your excellent work Jan. It is obvious their cult
is finally cracking up. It's a shame we had to expose their
connections to smut and scum. Not that it matters anymore, as far as
I can tell their cult is down to two or three members, and one is a
disbarred lawyer and one is a disbarred liar!! Ha-ha!
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I'm not part of a group, so that is one typical mistake fools often
make. Neither I nor they are part of any cult, not kiddie porn crapola
unlike yourself who seems to have a history of it on the Usenet, part of
your photography efforts and so on.
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Again, unlike your anti-human side, we do care about the tragic death
in your family.
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Then why were you so liberal about giving drugs to an infant? You know
"whatsherface" blames you totally for the situation.
a mouthpiece for lawyers
Evelyn Pringle is a columnist for OpEd News and investigative
journalist focused on exposing corruption in government and corporate
America.