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Squirrely

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Aug 19, 2008, 5:41:47 PM8/19/08
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Since there is a thread started and some of this is coming out i thought I
would start a thread that we could all add our two cents worth in there on
it.

1. cooking and not remembering.
2. throwing stuff away that you know you really needed.
3. not knowing how to do something that is like second nature to you.
4. not remembering to close a window or windows and then turning on the a/c.
5. not remembering how to spell words that you know how to spell.
and of course not saying things the way they were mean to be said, is the
real biggy for me the last few months since I have been so sick.

please feel free to add on to this.
I am so afraid that I will do something stupid and burn the house down or
something like that.
I have told Jim I can't trust myself anymore and feel like I need a baby
sitter at all times. It does upset me, I am not the person I used to be. I
am not either the person I was before in functioning as pain and illness
hold me back but boy this memory thing and doing stupid things is really
getting me.


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Love Squirrely


Harvey R. Stone

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Aug 19, 2008, 6:19:43 PM8/19/08
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Jo,,,, I can only say that I can not remember my wife's birthday or our
anavirsity or how to spell it,,,, I forget what day it is and I need help
to do the things on time that need doing...... I really try,,,, but I need
help but then there are things my wife needs help on too and I can only hope
that when I am there for those things,,, it might make up for my weaknesses.
It is called for better or for worse and its about making all the years mean
something. We all have shortcomings and we feel just as bad about them as
you do and only hope that the people we care about love us anyway.
Harv

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Jofirey

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"Squirrely" <sq...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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I had a very nice surprise today. A cousin that I haven't seen in
about 45 years came to visit with her husband and daughter and great
granddaughter.

Of course there was a ton of catching up to do. My husband of more
than forty years had never met them. I had seen her daughter about
twenty years ago.

A lot of time of course was spent cross checking family history. Her
sister has Alzheimer's. My mother died of Alzheimer's. And she
didn't know for sure, but I did know that our grandmother died of
Alzheimer's.

Scary stuff. But then it is reassuring that while she looks a great
deal like my mother at the same age, her mind is working just fine.

And the great granddaughter has our mother's eyes.

Jo


ANN M

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Aug 19, 2008, 8:27:50 PM8/19/08
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The things I do are more annoying than scary. Latest is carrying
laundry down from the second floor to the basement and stopping off on
the first floor to do something else. Then I will continue on to the
basement without the laundry and stand there for a minute wondering what
the heck I'm doing.
Remembering names is another thing I'm getting really bad at and
spelling ordinary words wrong.
My friends and I compare notes on our shortcomings and get a chuckle.
Ann

Squirrely

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Aug 19, 2008, 7:14:29 PM8/19/08
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I hear that Harv,

I use to depend on Jim to help me because of me forgetting things, now he
is just a forgetful as I am. So that is hard. ;-)

Most things Jim does understand now, one time i did something and he said
what the heck were you thinking. then he did something stupid and I yelled
it back at him and now he really does understand. It took me showing him how
that felt and now he is supportive and says to me honey, it is ok, things
happen.

But it does really bother me about the stove and locking doors and such like
that the real important issues that could cause harm to me or us or make it
so someone can get in here etc. I told Jim i just don't feel capable of
taking care of me anymore. I have cried over this, I think it is worse than
knowing I will never be able to garden again or do certain things. It is the
can I trust me to do the right thing.


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Love Squirrely

> Jo,,,, I can only say that I can not remember my wife's birthday or our

Donna G.

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Aug 19, 2008, 10:49:44 PM8/19/08
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Ann,


We always laugh and joke in our bible study group that it virtually
takes all 8 of us to make one complete and competent mind! LOL!!!

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Donna
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1.) ANGELS EXIST, but some times, since they don't all have wings, we
call them FRIENDS......


2.) J.K.M.A.

Squirrely

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Aug 19, 2008, 11:01:41 PM8/19/08
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I am there with you too Ann, I hate that, I go back to a room to get
something and by the time I get there I forgot what I was going with. Or
because our house is spread out so much, I will take several things with me
to put in the rooms as I go and put my cup down to get some water and come
back, don't get the water and sit down and see my cup sitting out there
waiting for water.

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Love Squirrely

> The things I do are more annoying than scary. Latest is carrying

ANN M

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Aug 20, 2008, 12:07:29 AM8/20/08
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I almost forgot (no pun intended) the dumb thing I did two weeks ago.
Since you all have lots of doctor appts. I'm sure you can relate to
this.
I had an appt on Tuesday at nephrologist and on Wednesday with PCP.
They are 15 miles apart. Both appts. were for 11:15 am.
You guessed it....as I pulled in to the PCP's office
parking lot on Tuesday, a light bulb went off in my head and I realized
I was at the wrong doctor. I am so happy that I hadn't gone inside and
taken a seat in the waiting room before I woke up. So, I hopped back on
the highway and got to the other doc's office just a tiny bit late.
I don't know if this is senior-itis or just having too much on my mind.

Pope Pie (Sy Lehrman)

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Aug 20, 2008, 12:38:08 AM8/20/08
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Squirrely wrote:
> I am there with you too Ann, I hate that, I go back to a room to get
> something and by the time I get there I forgot what I was going with. Or
> because our house is spread out so much, I will take several things with me
> to put in the rooms as I go and put my cup down to get some water and come
> back, don't get the water and sit down and see my cup sitting out there
> waiting for water.
>
The thing that spooks me from time to time is that I can't think of a
word, but it isn't on the tip of the tongue, it's in a deep dark hole
with no handle and nothing to grab to tease it out. It's like a hole in
the mind. You know there is a word there, but you have no idea what
it might be. All associations seem to disappear and there doesn't seem
to be any way to think about the word you can't find. Spooky. It's
just dropped out of existence.

Makes me wonder if this is the right time to be studying Italian.

Ciao tutti.

Kelly

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Aug 20, 2008, 12:53:17 AM8/20/08
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Ann,
I have arrived at wrong doctor's offices several times, once the day before
my appointment (and I was 37 at the time - not 50 like now). Pain does
things to me, fatique and sometimes meds. I will also say I have phoned
home to ask my husband to check to make sure my sewing machine was off
(always is), locked the door and left the key in the lock (several times
lately - luckily we live in a very safe neighborhood), unlocked the door and
left the key in the lock. It is not always senior-itis.

Kelly
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StrangeDiva

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Aug 20, 2008, 2:39:14 AM8/20/08
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Running into things and coming up with bruises when you didn't think you
hit it hard enough to do so.
Having "owies" on your body and not remembering you scraped yourself..
Feeling like you're going to faint and have tunnel vision
Trying to walk and have exscruciating pain down your legs (nerve pain I
know what it is just scares me)
Having a rhomboid muscle spasm and not knowing why it keeps doing that.
Having a rhomboid muscle spasm and falling over due to pain.
Having a rhomboid muscle spasm and not able to breathe or move your arm
in any direction.
Oh and lastly putting a phone down on the table and only to rip the
forearm muscle and bicep for *no* apparent reason what so ever. (this
one has perplexed me for months.. the muscles are permanently damaged it
looks like my arm is swollen all the time.. dr's can't figure out what's
wrong.)

Anyway there's my list I'm sure I have MORE... those are off the top of
my head and currently happen alot.

StrangeDiva

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Aug 20, 2008, 2:48:06 AM8/20/08
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Oh PS heh.. the biggun':
Waking up in the morning and not feeling your legs or able to move.. I
mean no sensation AT ALL they are just dead.. I have some mornings I lay
and wonder if I'm going to be able to get up and walk period..

Carole

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Aug 20, 2008, 3:06:01 AM8/20/08
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ANN M wrote:

I have to put everything on an organizer that I carry around with me.
Every night I look at it before I go to bed to see if I have to be
somewhere the next day :) And all my doctors call a day or two before
with reminders :-))

Carole

Harvey R. Stone

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Aug 20, 2008, 7:26:32 AM8/20/08
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>> Anyway there's my list I'm sure I have MORE... those are off the top of
>> my head and currently happen alot.
> Oh PS heh.. the biggun':
> Waking up in the morning and not feeling your legs or able to move.. I
> mean no sensation AT ALL they are just dead.. I have some mornings I lay
> and wonder if I'm going to be able to get up and walk period..

This is serious,,,,, does anyone of your doctors know about this? Do you
have any on going spine damage that is not being treated or is being treated
for that matter?
Harv


Cindy

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Aug 20, 2008, 10:22:53 AM8/20/08
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Squirrely...you see you are not alone in this...lol
Sometimes when I am telling a story or describing something...I can't
remember the word..or how to spell it...and so I choose a different word...
When you are driving in your own neighborhood and you are suddenly
lost...That is scary...
I use to remember lots of small details..phone numbers, dates, I could
remember movies that we watched...Now..I am lucky to remember my own name...
And it is funny...I use to remember movies that we watched and Mike couldn't
now..it is the other way around...His memory on some things is better than
mine...and since he has no memory...that is scary...
Good thing is I can watch tv episodes more than once...even though I
remember I saw it..I can't remember how it ended...so I get to enjoy it more
than once...

Cindy


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StrangeDiva

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Aug 20, 2008, 1:11:38 PM8/20/08
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It is being treated harv to some extent. I have chronic nerve damage to
the right side of my spine. What I've been told is "There's nothing we
can do except manage the pain." So in some way I'm screwed I may lose
the ability to walk at some point down the road. It sucks I've started
to try to get myself to accept that it's happening...but that will take
a while..

d'huit

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ANN M wrote:

Carole

i went to my rehab appmt. 2 hours early yesterday, 11:15am as opposed to
1:15 pm. somehow, i got it confused with last thursday's ortho appmt. time.
luckily for me my pt sarah had that time slot empty and took me early.
would have been a long wait otherwise.

kate


ANN M

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Aug 20, 2008, 3:02:18 PM8/20/08
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Carole...the sad thing is that I DO have an organizer.

Kelly...I understand the calling your husband thing. One time I called
my neighbor and asked him to run across the street and make sure I
turned off the coffee pot. (I had).

I'm sure we have some pain/arthritis fog, but I know I am a ditz lately
because I am thinking of a dozen things at once. I just have to slow
down and think!!!

Ann

Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.

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Aug 20, 2008, 3:21:35 PM8/20/08
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But how do you remember to actually look at the organizer to check for
'things to do', remember what day today is when you look at it- and even
before all that remembering your have to remember where you left the
organizer. If it's in your handbag then where is the handbag??? It goes on
and on! The ONLY safe place for me to note things is on the front of the
fridge- I know without a doubt I'll be in and out of the fridge getting food
and munchies- now, did I remember to look at all the notes on the door???
LOL (I just found my extra set of truck/house keys- buried in books and
paperwork on the top of the coffee table!)

Leslie

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Jofirey

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Of course it is. Learning new things keeps the brain making new
connections. An active brain is usually a happy brain.

Jo


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Aug 20, 2008, 7:08:32 PM8/20/08
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Ann, even when I slow down, the thinking is still hard!
Gwen

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sweetp...@spamknology.net

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Jo, the busy brain is why I've been trying to learn Sudoku, but I have not
been at all successful. Two people have showed me how to do it, but the way
they told me doesn't always work. And I know I'm not dumb -- or maybe I am
and just don't realize it.
Gwen

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Jofirey

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> Jo, the busy brain is why I've been trying to learn Sudoku, but I
> have not
> been at all successful. Two people have showed me how to do it, but
> the way
> they told me doesn't always work. And I know I'm not dumb -- or
> maybe I am
> and just don't realize it.
> Gwen
>

The first thing you have to remember about Sudoku is that it has
absolutely nothing to do with numbers or math.

The digits one thru nine could be any nine symbols or nine letters of
the alphabet.

I usually do it with what I think of as backwards logic. Figure out
what digits can't go in a particular box and if there is only one
left, it goes there.

Our newspaper has puzzles that are very easy on Monday up to very
difficult on Sunday. I like the Monday ones. By Friday it can
sometimes take me half a day what with picking it up and putting it
back down. Saturday and Sunday sometimes I quit.

Jo

Harvey R. Stone

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>> This is serious,,,,, does anyone of your doctors know about this? Do you
>> have any on going spine damage that is not being treated or is being
>> treated for that matter?
>> Harv
> It is being treated harv to some extent. I have chronic nerve damage to
> the right side of my spine. What I've been told is "There's nothing we can
> do except manage the pain." So in some way I'm screwed I may lose the
> ability to walk at some point down the road. It sucks I've started to try
> to get myself to accept that it's happening...but that will take a while..
>

Oh my,,,, I guess its time for you to look into those new fangled cells to
see if nerves can be rebuilt or repaired. May you find peaceful rest and
times that are pain free to rebuild your spirit.
Harv


Adelle

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Aug 21, 2008, 12:26:25 AM8/21/08
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<sweetp...@SPAMknology.net> wrote in message
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> Jo, the busy brain is why I've been trying to learn Sudoku, but I have not
> been at all successful. Two people have showed me how to do it, but the
> way
> they told me doesn't always work. And I know I'm not dumb -- or maybe I
> am
> and just don't realize it.
> Gwen

No - it just takes time to learn the tricks. My husband, the software
engineer, has the biggest trouble with them - and he deals with numbers and
logic all day long.

The way I taught myself (and still use on hard ones) is to write all the
possible numbers along the top of each box (I use a mechanical pencil so I
can write small and an eraser). I go in order, looking for the patterns of
#1. If I can't definitely fill in a #1 in a box, then I start putting 1's in
the top left corners of the squares where 1 might be a possibility. Then I
do two. Then three...Eventually, you start to realize - gee, if 4 and 8 can
only be correct in these two squares of this row, then I can erase 4's and
8's as a possibility in all the other boxes in that row (or square). That
often creates a space where only one number is a possibility. Then you go on
to see if you can figure out where that number must appear in the other
boxes or rows.

Oddly enough, the easiest book of sudoku's I've found are the ones at Barnes
and Noble from Mensa press. I bought them thinking they'd be challenging,
but I filled out the first hundred or so without having to make any
notations at all.

Adelle


Adelle

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"StrangeDiva" <stra...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Bless you for mentioning Rhomboid muscle spasm. I've had something happening
for a 8 days now and didn't know what it was. Just know I'm fine after I've
moved around for a while but it kills first thing in the mornings and
sometimes radiates so bad I can't breathe. Didn't know what you were talking
about, so I looked it up. BINGO - that's been my problem. Symptoms fit
rhomboid muscle spasm to a T. I'll stop using the heating pad and start
using cold packs. Thank you!!!!

Adelle


StrangeDiva

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Aug 21, 2008, 1:24:17 AM8/21/08
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No problem! My Rheumy told me what it was that was happening after I
explained it to him. He actually put me on Flexoril for mine. I could go
through the whole dang day and go to put something up where I have to
reach over my head and WHAM I literally can not move for a good minute
until it subsides a little then I just run around in circles for the
most part I can't stoop or try to lay down to work it out.. the flexoril
has helped somewhat but not fully.

sweetp...@spamknology.net

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Thanks Adelle. I'm copying your email and will try and see if it works for
me.
Gwen

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empties today of its strength."
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Adelle

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Aug 21, 2008, 2:18:22 PM8/21/08
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Good luck.

I am massively addicted to sudoku. So if this doesn't work, email me off
line and we'll try another strategy. I can even do one 'with you' if need
be. We could label the spaces with letters across the top and numbers down
the side, and then I could guide you through it.

Adelle

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Nann Bell

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Aug 21, 2008, 4:41:19 PM8/21/08
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:14:29 -0400, Squirrely wrote
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> Most things Jim does understand now, one time i did something and he said
> what the heck were you thinking. then he did something stupid and I yelled
> it back at him and now he really does understand. It took me showing him how
> that felt and now he is supportive and says to me honey, it is ok, things
> happen.

One of the most valuable things, in terms of our relaionship, that Mike does,
is understand why i behave certain ways sometimes -esp. understanding why I'm
giving him the dickens for something minor. I'll apologize later, after
calming down (and often after getting a bit of rest) and he says he knew it
was because I felt lousy and there's nothing to worry about. I doubt our
relationship could survive my illness if he didn't have that insight. On my
better days, I endeavor to let him know how much it means to me. :-)

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Nann Bell

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 0:07:29 -0400, ANN M wrote
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> I had an appt on Tuesday at nephrologist and on Wednesday with PCP.
> They are 15 miles apart. Both appts. were for 11:15 am.
> You guessed it

I showed up on the wrong day for a doctor's appt. once. Ironically,
considering this thread, I don't remember the rest of the details. All I
remember is that it was somewhere I was seen often and that it must have been
after the scheduled appt. as I could have just come back if I'd shown up
early. (and it must have been before I had an answering machine around so
reminder calls didn't get to me. Not that they do now, with us tying up the
phone line for the computer!)

Anyway, they knew me well. We all had a good laugh about it and they said
they weren't overly busy that day and could squeeze me in if I was willing to
wait a bit. The wait wasn't too bad ultimtaely. Of course I thanked them
several times over!

Nann Bell

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Aug 21, 2008, 4:41:18 PM8/21/08
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well, the one that has always scared me most was before these DDs were so
active. I used to work night shift a lot and was often sleepy when driving
home in the morning. I'd make a point of pushing myself to focus on the
driving, but of course I was driving very familiar routes. There were a
middle school & two elementary schools near where I lived. There was NO
route from work to home that didn't take me through at least one school zone.
Sometimes, I'd remember nothing of driving from work until I had to slow for
a school zone. The fact that I respnded appropriately at the school zone
reassured me, but it worried me a lot! I'd try to take the less familiar
routes home when I was most sleepy, but it still happened at times.

What scares me most these days is not knowing when to stop doing something.
When I get tired/fatigued, anything i do gets sloppy, less controlled, more
impatient. I'm trying to make myself realize when i reach that point so I
stop what I'm doing as soon as possible, but if I'm really caught up in it, I
don't realize it until everything starts going wrong. I end up with lots of
minor cuts, scratches, bruises, burns, etc. from doing things past the point
where I'm appropriately careful. I'm worried I'll really hurt myself one
day. It's just so hard to make yourself stop doing something after a
relatively brief period, compared to the hours you used to be able to work on
something.

Nann Bell

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 0:38:08 -0400, Pope Pie (Sy Lehrman) wrote
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> Makes me wonder if this is the right time to be studying Italian.
>
> Ciao tutti.

absolutemente................ You might be able to remember the word in one
language if not in the other. English is the only lanuage I speak fluently,
but i do know bits and pieces of other ones. Sometimes I'll remember the
word in another laguage when i forget English! mike knows enough bits and
pieces that if I say the other language, he often remembers the English word
for me. I'll do the same for him occasionally, though he knows infinitely
more German than I do.

Now I'm thinking I may have a clue as to why our conversations often seem to
amuse people around us..............

Nann Bell

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:21:35 -0400, Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. wrote
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> LOL (I just found my extra set of truck/house keys- buried in books and
> paperwork on the top of the coffee table!)

LOL! Luckily for me, I've been tossing my keys into the basket we use for
outgoing mail for 19 years now, ever since I moved in with Mike. We've lived
in 4 different places, but that basket moves with us & always serves the same
function in a convenient location. I'd lose my keys much more often without
that. but........ in this house I have to walk through the kitchen & diniing
room before I get to the basket and I have been known to leave them inone of
those places. naturally, it's all the fault of the house's floor plan and
has nothing whatsoever to do with me! I'd never know where my keys are if i
didn't ingrain these habits! (living where we often walk places or otherwise
are doing things where i only need my keys and not my whole purse also
contributes)

Nann Bell

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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 0:26:25 -0400, Adelle wrote
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> No - it just takes time to learn the tricks. My husband, the software
> engineer, has the biggest trouble with them - and he deals with numbers and
> logic all day long.
>

I'd say in a way it's more like a logic problem, but with numbers rather than
other variables and not involving reasoning as complicated as logic problems.

I've never gotten interested in them. For my real thinking problems I like
cross sums & logic problems, esp. the ones in Dell puzzle books. And tere's
no shortage of alternatives for milder puzzles that pass the time.

loujeanb

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Aug 21, 2008, 5:40:50 PM8/21/08
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I've not lost my keys, but, I did lose the measuring cup I only use for my
Instant Oatmeal. I found it - I don't know why I used that one, but...
Anyhow, it was in the spare room where the ironing board is. I have to
press the hems of some of my shorts. I also ironed on some pictures of my
grandchildren on a shirt. I found the cup sitting merrily on the shelf with
1/4 cup of water left.

I take it back. I remember one time I lost my keys between getting out of
the car and trying to unlock the back door. I knew I had had the keys - I
had to to drive! They had slid under the seat right next to the door. I
don't know how many times I looked in there, but not at the right angle.
That's a horrible feeling when you know you just had something and can't
find it. Doing things out of context (using keys but not purse as Nann
said) can really cause problems.

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Squirrely

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Cindy I do that with tv and books too. So I can read books over and over
again. Sometimes though it will come to me at the end of the book and I will
go oh yeah I remember this now. ;-)


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> Squirrely...you see you are not alone in this...lol

loujeanb

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Mom and I watch Murder She Wrote on Sunday nights (they have at least two
episodes on Hallmark channel) and we'll remember the episode, but not who
did it. I think that's rather convenient. LOL

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