OT finally able to access asapm
Chip
had to try a different news server
my Comcast news server which gets it's posts from Giganews, stopped new
messages to as asapm 4 days ago
Chip
--
========== Please DELETE this text block when replying! ==========
Contact the moderators at: asapm...@stump.algebra.com
The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
========= This notice is added to each approved article ==========
Mary
"Chip" <chipmo...@hotmail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:g4pgtv$nr2$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
> made it back to asapm
>
> had to try a different news server
>
> my Comcast news server which gets it's posts from Giganews, stopped new
> messages to as asapm 4 days ago
Is Comcast stopping all Usenet messages? so many ISP's are doing that now.
They just don't want to pay news services so they can cut costs. My ISP used
to have Giganews, but they cut us off Usnet more than a year ago saying that
not enough customers used Usenet to make it worth their while to pay for it,
which wasn't true. Quite a lot of people used Usenet, but my ISP saw a way
to cut costs and made excuses. They always have excuses.
Mary
Chip
"Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote in message news:g4phom$71a$1...@aioe.org...
>
> "Chip" <chipmo...@hotmail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:g4pgtv$nr2$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>> made it back to asapm
>>
>> had to try a different news server
>>
>> my Comcast news server which gets it's posts from Giganews, stopped new
>> messages to as asapm 4 days ago
>
> Is Comcast stopping all Usenet messages?
only to asapm (that I'm aware of). I can post to and read two other NGs. I
don't know why they stopped sending asapm posts. I don't know if Comcast is
aware they're not sending asapm posts. Apparantly my news reader is not the
problem.
> so many ISP's are doing that now.
> They just don't want to pay news services so they can cut costs.
could be. I have no idea how much it costs to provide news service. I don't
know why there would be much expense. Seems like you'd only need a few news
servers with appropriate software. Maybe the costs come from hiring humans
to maintain the news servers.
> My ISP used
> to have Giganews, but they cut us off Usnet more than a year ago saying
> that
> not enough customers used Usenet to make it worth their while to pay for
> it,
> which wasn't true. Quite a lot of people used Usenet, but my ISP saw a way
> to cut costs and made excuses.
> They always have excuses.
Yeah :)
Chip
Diane
love,
di
"Chip" <chipmo...@hotmail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:g4pgtv$nr2$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
Mary
>
> "Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote in message news:g4phom$71a$1...@aioe.org...
> >
> > "Chip" <chipmo...@hotmail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in message
> > news:g4pgtv$nr2$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
> >> made it back to asapm
> >>
> >> had to try a different news server
> >>
> >> my Comcast news server which gets it's posts from Giganews, stopped new
> >> messages to as asapm 4 days ago
> >
> > Is Comcast stopping all Usenet messages?
> only to asapm (that I'm aware of). I can post to and read two other NGs. I
> don't know why they stopped sending asapm posts. I don't know if Comcast
is
> aware they're not sending asapm posts. Apparantly my news reader is not
the
> problem.
It might be because ASAPM is moderated and there might have been a problem
between Comcast newsgroups and ASAPM. From my understanding, moderated
groups are a little differently set up.If you had wanted, you could have
emailed your ISP or asked ASAPM moderator if they knew what the problem was,
but since you are using Mozarella who I sometimes use, may as well just use
them.
> > so many ISP's are doing that now.
> > They just don't want to pay news services so they can cut costs.
>
> could be. I have no idea how much it costs to provide news service. I
don't
> know why there would be much expense. Seems like you'd only need a few
news
> servers with appropriate software. Maybe the costs come from hiring humans
> to maintain the news servers.
When my ISP (and many others) stopped using Giganews, it would save ISP's
money since they don't need to pay for Giganews to download newsgroups to
the ISP's customers. I suspect it cost a lot .
> > My ISP used
> > to have Giganews, but they cut us off Usnet more than a year ago saying
> > that
> > not enough customers used Usenet to make it worth their while to pay for
> > it,
> > which wasn't true. Quite a lot of people used Usenet, but my ISP saw a
way
> > to cut costs and made excuses.
>
> > They always have excuses.
>
> Yeah :)
And none of them hold water - they know that, but its all in the game :)
Mary
Chip
"Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote in message news:g4rdpr$gg$1...@aioe.org...
> "Chip" <chipmo...@hotmail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:g4ptbc$gdb$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> "Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote in message news:g4phom$71a$1...@aioe.org...
>> >
>> > "Chip" <chipmo...@hotmail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in message
>> > news:g4pgtv$nr2$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>> >> made it back to asapm
>> >>
>> >> had to try a different news server
>> >>
>> >> my Comcast news server which gets it's posts from Giganews, stopped
>> >> new
>> >> messages to as asapm 4 days ago
>> >
>> > Is Comcast stopping all Usenet messages?
>
>> only to asapm (that I'm aware of). I can post to and read two other NGs.
>> I
>> don't know why they stopped sending asapm posts. I don't know if Comcast
> is
>> aware they're not sending asapm posts. Apparantly my news reader is not
> the
>> problem.
and maybe my newsreader is the problem.
>
> It might be because ASAPM is moderated and there might have been a problem
> between Comcast newsgroups and ASAPM.
I received asapm via Comcast for a few weeks prior to all messages to asapm
not appearing on my newsreader on July 2.
> From my understanding, moderated
> groups are a little differently set up.If you had wanted, you could have
> emailed your ISP or asked ASAPM moderator
asapm moderaters gave my a few suggestions. I also went to
microsoft.public.vista.mail and posted my problem there. And got a number of
suggestions. One suggestion was to use Motzarella and see if I could read
asapm.
> if they knew what the problem was,
> but since you are using Mozarella who I sometimes use, may as well just
> use
> them.
that's a thought. Thanks, Mary. I have a brand new broadband ISP and a brand
new laptop computer with a brand new Vista OS. I'd kinda like to get down to
the bottom of the problem.
Chip
Mary
>
> "Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote in message news:g4rdpr$gg$1...@aioe.org...
> > "Chip" <chipmo...@hotmail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in message
> > news:g4ptbc$gdb$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>
> >> "Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote in message news:g4phom$71a$1...@aioe.org...
> >> >
> >> > "Chip" <chipmo...@hotmail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in message
> >> > news:g4pgtv$nr2$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
> >> >> made it back to asapm
> >> >>
> >> >> had to try a different news server
> >> >>
> >> >> my Comcast news server which gets it's posts from Giganews, stopped
> >> >> new
> >> >> messages to as asapm 4 days ago
> >> >
> >> > Is Comcast stopping all Usenet messages?
> >
> >> only to asapm (that I'm aware of). I can post to and read two other
NGs.
> >> I
> >> don't know why they stopped sending asapm posts. I don't know if
Comcast
> > is
> >> aware they're not sending asapm posts. Apparantly my news reader is not
> > the
> >> problem.
>
> and maybe my newsreader is the problem.
I don't use Vista and I believe you said you did, and I don't think Vista
has Outlook express, so I don't know anything about the mail reder in Vista,
> > It might be because ASAPM is moderated and there might have been a
problem
> > between Comcast newsgroups and ASAPM.
>
> I received asapm via Comcast for a few weeks prior to all messages to
asapm
> not appearing on my newsreader on July 2.
If you got ASAPM before, you should be able to get it again, unless Comcast
dropped ASAPM for some reason.
Did you phone Comcast tech. dept. to ask them? though if they are anything
like the tech. dept of my ISP, they usually don't know much about Usenet. I
usually know more, so I don't phone unless I have to as its too aggravating
:<)
> > From my understanding, moderated
> > groups are a little differently set up.If you had wanted, you could have
> > emailed your ISP or asked ASAPM moderator
>
> asapm moderaters gave my a few suggestions. I also went to
> microsoft.public.vista.mail and posted my problem there. And got a number
of
> suggestions. One suggestion was to use Motzarella and see if I could read
> asapm.
Well as you can see Motzarella gets ASAPM and must have its servers set up
properly.
> > if they knew what the problem was,
> > but since you are using Mozarella who I sometimes use, may as well just
> > use them.
> that's a thought. Thanks, Mary. I have a brand new broadband ISP and a
brand
> new laptop computer with a brand new Vista OS. I'd kinda like to get down
to
> the bottom of the problem.
I know what you mean about wanting to get to the bottom of the problem. I'm
like that too. I hate when things don't work properly. Try your ISP is all I
can suggest and try to find out why they can't get ASAPM since you said they
got it before :)
Mary
Chip
"Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote >
> I know what you mean about wanting to get to the bottom of the problem.
> I'm
> like that too. I hate when things don't work properly. Try your ISP is all
> I
> can suggest and try to find out why they can't get ASAPM since you said
> they
> got it before :)
I posted in a Comcast forum tonight at the comcast website asking about
asapm. I'll check the comcast forum tomorrow to see if there's any answers.
Chip
Mary
>
> "Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote >
>
> > I know what you mean about wanting to get to the bottom of the problem.
> > I'm
> > like that too. I hate when things don't work properly. Try your ISP is
all
> > I
> > can suggest and try to find out why they can't get ASAPM since you said
> > they
> > got it before :)
> I posted in a Comcast forum tonight at the comcast website asking about
> asapm. I'll check the comcast forum tomorrow to see if there's any
answers.
You can try thaat, and if no answers, if you want to investigate further,
you might be able to get more direct answers from Comcast technical suppor
or if they don't know, they can probably find out for you.
Mary
Chip
"Chip" <chipmo...@hotmail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in message
> made it back to asapm
>
> had to try a different news server
>
> my Comcast news server which gets it's posts from Giganews, stopped new
> messages to as asapm 4 days ago
I downloaded 3 updates from Microsoft today and am now able to receive asapm
using my Comcast news server.
I don't know how the updates helped, but they apparantly did help.
Mary
>
> "Chip" <chipmo...@hotmail.com_NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:g4pgtv$nr2$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
> > made it back to asapm
> >
> > had to try a different news server
> >
> > my Comcast news server which gets it's posts from Giganews, stopped new
> > messages to as asapm 4 days ago
>
> I downloaded 3 updates from Microsoft today and am now able to receive
asapm
> using my Comcast news server.
>
> I don't know how the updates helped, but they apparantly did help.
I wouldn't have thougth MS updates would help, but seems like it maybe
changed something. At least you got it solved and can sleep at night :>).
Mary