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james

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Nov 6, 2003, 10:56:40 PM11/6/03
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my 9 yr old son was diagnosed with post dramatic stress disorder and
possible depression. both my wife and I agree on the diagnose of pdsd but
disagree on the depression. the phychiatrist after see us for one hr. and a
brief chat with my son teacher who explained to him that he displays anger
in the classroom wants to put him on prozac. my wife thinks we should and I
don't
I'm not sure what to look for in a child with depression, would it be the
same as in a adult? then is prozac right for pdsd, but my biggest problem
with it, is his improvements
a lot of his problem started back up with school this year and the first 4
week he was having difficulties with his anger and not doing his class work
or homework he improved his anger quite a bit and seem to enjoys doing his
work know ( got A's and one B even with his bad start) plus he is a happy
person.So I see improvement and I am not sure that medication is right for
him
Jim

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Philip Peters

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Nov 7, 2003, 9:57:45 AM11/7/03
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james wrote:
> my 9 yr old son was diagnosed with post dramatic stress disorder and
> possible depression. both my wife and I agree on the diagnose of pdsd but
> disagree on the depression. the phychiatrist after see us for one hr. and a
> brief chat with my son teacher who explained to him that he displays anger
> in the classroom wants to put him on prozac. my wife thinks we should and I
> don't
> I'm not sure what to look for in a child with depression, would it be the
> same as in a adult? then is prozac right for pdsd, but my biggest problem
> with it, is his improvements
> a lot of his problem started back up with school this year and the first 4
> week he was having difficulties with his anger and not doing his class work
> or homework he improved his anger quite a bit and seem to enjoys doing his
> work know ( got A's and one B even with his bad start) plus he is a happy
> person.So I see improvement and I am not sure that medication is right for
> him
> Jim

I am wary of psychoactive meds for one so young when the brain hasn't
fully developed yet. Sometimes there may be no choice but behavioral
therapy seems the first thing to try to me. As for the diagnosis, ask
for a second opinion.

Philip

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weeks

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Nov 7, 2003, 2:44:53 PM11/7/03
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Hi, James,
I am sorry to hear about your son. I don't have any advice but wish you
much success in dealing with this situation.
smiles,
Elise

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Tony Banana

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Nov 7, 2003, 6:29:19 PM11/7/03
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James,

I agree with Philip.

I think seeking the help of a therapist/psychologist
should be attempted before jumping right into meds.

Good luck,

Tony

james

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Nov 7, 2003, 9:09:13 PM11/7/03
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The FDA just approved prozac for children this year for depression and OCD,
beside the normal side effect similiar to adult, a 19 week study showed a
1/2 inch stunt growth, beside the obvious what else could that mean
did talk my wife into getting him another psychologist so he could be more
fully examined
Jim
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Chip

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"james" <foxan...@charter.com> wrote in message
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> my 9 yr old son was diagnosed with post dramatic stress disorder and
> possible depression. both my wife and I agree on the diagnose of pdsd but
> disagree on the depression. the phychiatrist after see us for one hr. and
a
> brief chat with my son teacher who explained to him that he displays anger
> in the classroom wants to put him on prozac. my wife thinks we should and
I
> don't


> I'm not sure what to look for in a child with depression, would it be the
> same as in a adult?

James,

The below web page describes childhood depression, the symptoms, what to
look for, and treatment options, including the latest research on use of
meds. Hope it helps.

http://www.emedicine.com/ped/topic1355.htm

Chip

james

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Nov 7, 2003, 9:49:22 PM11/7/03
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when Jason was 3 he had a sleep disorder and was prescribe med, not to sure
what it was, he eventually became combative and and other times withdrawn
after a lot of arguments with my wife I finally got him off the med and he
started improving
Since then whenever my wife mention putting him back on med I had
instantanios anger, when she brought it up this time I didn't have any anger
even though my mind was racing for answers
Jim
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james

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Nov 8, 2003, 2:19:36 AM11/8/03
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thanks for the web site it was very imformative
I know he develop depression symptoms from a med side effect when he was
younger
the stress that caused the post dramatic stress disorder occured last year
while he was in school, and of course this made school difficult,( possibly
a panic trigger) he eventually improved during the summer yet struggled with
anger at times, mostly in social situation with other kids, but nothing that
was lasting until he started school this year so I assumed that school is a
stressor for him
with some working with him he had improved quite a bit
and I would like to find him CBT trained therapist, not easy to find for his
age
Right now he isn't displaying any of the symptoms of childhood depression
or anxiety although I believe stress could cause it in him again as long as
the severity and length of depression-anxiety decrease, I think it in his
best interest to learn how to handle the stress better ( I hope I'm not
being cruel)
prozac can take up to 4 week to start showing any improvement and he
improve in this amount of time without it, I didn't notice is any benzo that
could be subscibe that would have a more immediate effect ?
probably not cost effective enough for studies
Jim

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james

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Nov 8, 2003, 2:19:28 AM11/8/03
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He had therapist in the past and done well working with them a good one
moved and right now we are having a hard time finding another one because of
his age
Jim
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Jacqueline

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Nov 9, 2003, 9:13:11 PM11/9/03
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:56:40 CST, "james" <foxan...@charter.com> wrote:

: my 9 yr old son was diagnosed with post dramatic stress disorder and


:possible depression. both my wife and I agree on the diagnose of pdsd but
:disagree on the depression. the phychiatrist after see us for one hr. and a
:brief chat with my son teacher who explained to him that he displays anger
:in the classroom wants to put him on prozac. my wife thinks we should and I
:don't

Dear James,

I know how agonizing it is to try and decide whether or not to use a serious
medication on one of your children. I went through such a decision last
summer regarding my youngest daughter and her rheumatoid arthritis. It was
scary.......I was terrified that she would have a terrible reaction and how
would I be able to forgive myself? On the other hand, how could I not let
her try a med that could help her so much. I totally empathize with the
dilemma you and your wife face.

: I'm not sure what to look for in a child with depression, would it be the


:same as in a adult? then is prozac right for pdsd, but my biggest problem
:with it, is his improvements

Here are some really informative links on depression and anxiety in
children.
http://pediatrics.about.com/library/weekly/aa101001a.htm

http://pediatrics.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.aacap.org/publications/factsfam/depressd.htm

http://pediatrics.about.com/library/ask/blask_010403.htm

http://pediatrics.about.com/library/bldepression.htm

http://pediatrics.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Faboutourkids.med.nyu.edu%2Farticles%2Fchoosingmh.html

http://pediatrics.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dramy.net%2Ftherapy.html

http://childparenting.about.com/library/blchildanxiety.http

http://www.childanxiety.net/

http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/socialyouth/index.htm?terms=children

http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/youthmental/index.htm?terms=children

http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/youthspecific/index.htm?terms=children

: a lot of his problem started back up with school this year and the first 4


:week he was having difficulties with his anger and not doing his class work
:or homework he improved his anger quite a bit and seem to enjoys doing his
:work know ( got A's and one B even with his bad start) plus he is a happy
:person.So I see improvement and I am not sure that medication is right for
:him

Since there seems to be a big improvement, it makes sense to hold off on
meds for the time being. Therapy may be the way to go at this point. I would
also insist on using a pediatric psychiatrist. Good luck to you and your son
and please keep us updated. {{{{{James & Son}}}}}

Jackie
~*~Autumn is a second spring when every leaf is a flower~*~

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