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_TJ_

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Jun 29, 2008, 3:24:47 PM6/29/08
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hi folks! =)

as many of you may remember, i did a survey a while back into
the tiredness and fatigue levels of people on asapm. this
was inspired by my own ongoing battle with severe fatigue.

the upshot was that almost everyone who responded felt their
tiredness levels were very high - higher generally than they
would expect if they were still in their normal health.

naturally i am quite curious about what is causing all this
tiredness among anxious people!

as such, i would quite like to hear people's opinions as to how
their anxiety disorder actually leads to excessive levels of fatigue.

the following scenarios seem like good candidates:

a) anxiety simply drains the body, leaving you pooped!

b) anxiety ruins your sleep, you never feel rested.

c) meds leave you sedated, you have brainfog and worse!

d) meds ruin your sleep, like (b) but you can blame your doctor =)

e) an exhausting combination of the previous problems

f) something else entirely

i am guessing that (a) and/or (b) are my particular downfall, but
how does it work in your case?

please lay your opinions on me, good people of asapm x)


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Sheldon

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Jun 29, 2008, 11:31:51 PM6/29/08
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> the following scenarios seem like good candidates:
>
> a) anxiety simply drains the body, leaving you pooped!

Yes.


>
> b) anxiety ruins your sleep, you never feel rested.

Not all the time, for me.


>
> c) meds leave you sedated, you have brainfog and worse!

Depends on the meds, and tiredness is often a side-effect of many of these
meds, but that often goes away after a short time.


>
> d) meds ruin your sleep, like (b) but you can blame your doctor =)

Depends on the meds, and that usually subsides.

>
> e) an exhausting combination of the previous problems

Maybe.
>
> f) something else entirely

Isn't what you've listed already enough? I think being anxious all the time
just exhausts you.


>
> i am guessing that (a) and/or (b) are my particular downfall, but
> how does it work in your case?

At this point I'm pretty much past the side-effects of the meds, and because
of the meds I'm not prone to anxiety as much. I'm doing okay.

Hope the info helps. Part of the problem is that everybody reacts
differently to meds and anxiety

Chip

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Jun 30, 2008, 12:12:50 AM6/30/08
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"_TJ_" <TJ_IRELspa...@yahoo.ie> wrote in message
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>
> hi folks! =)
>
> as many of you may remember, i did a survey a while back into
> the tiredness and fatigue levels of people on asapm. this
> was inspired by my own ongoing battle with severe fatigue.
>
> the upshot was that almost everyone who responded felt their
> tiredness levels were very high - higher generally than they
> would expect if they were still in their normal health.
>
> naturally i am quite curious about what is causing all this
> tiredness among anxious people!
>
> as such, i would quite like to hear people's opinions as to how
> their anxiety disorder actually leads to excessive levels of fatigue.
>
> the following scenarios seem like good candidates:
>
> a) anxiety simply drains the body, leaving you pooped!
>
> b) anxiety ruins your sleep, you never feel rested.
>
> c) meds leave you sedated, you have brainfog and worse!
>
> d) meds ruin your sleep, like (b) but you can blame your doctor =)
>
> e) an exhausting combination of the previous problems
>
> f) something else entirely
>
> i am guessing that (a) and/or (b) are my particular downfall, but
> how does it work in your case?
>
> please lay your opinions on me, good people of asapm x)

g) chronic fatigue, chronic pain, anxiety and depression all lay on the
"affective disorders spectrum".

There's alot of overlap amoung these conditions, but the reason for the
overlap is unknown to medical science. Perhaps there's some underlying
disorder which manifests differently in different people.

Chip

frizzie

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Jun 30, 2008, 1:38:47 PM6/30/08
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On Jun 29, 2:24 pm, _TJ_
snip:

My 2 cents worth based on over 30 years of suffering from panic
disorder and a form of bi-polar depression:

> a) anxiety simply drains the body, leaving you pooped!

Anxiety overwhelms the brain. The brain can handle only so much
stress that when the point of saturation is near, in order to protect
itself, the brain either channels the stress to the body in the form
of illness/discomfort (i.e., an arthritis flareup, panic attacks,
etc.) or it sends chemicals to bodily systems that depress certain
functions making the body slow down (thus, the feeling of tiredness).
Improper diet adds to this as well. When you're anxious and/or
depressed, you don't feel like eating, let along watching what you
eat.


>
> b) anxiety ruins your sleep, you never feel rested.

Its no longer the anxiety that is disturbing my sleep, its the fact
that my meds wear off and I wake 2-3 times a nite sometimes in a
panic. And, yes I almost never feel rested or at peace.


>
> c) meds leave you sedated, you have brainfog and worse!

I feel semi sedated after taking my nighttime meds (the reason I take
them is for sleep) but I do not wake with a hangover or a sedated
feeling. In fact, I wake most mornings in a semi panic (heart beating
fast and body feeling hot and sweaty, etc.) with thots of dead people
I've know on my mind.


>
> d) meds ruin your sleep, like (b) but you can blame your doctor =)

The only beef I have against all the pdocs I've had over the years, is
that only one told me how the meds I'm taking were/are going to effect
me over time not just with sleeping patterns but with memory loss,
etc. But then, I don't think they really know what to tell their
patients because each body handles these illnesses and meds
differently.

> e) an exhausting combination of the previous problems

It is exhausing mentally to have to juggle your life style, people and
situations so that you are not overwhelmed with panic and/or
depression. Plus, keeping tract of all the meds. and their side
effects is energy drawing.
>
> f) something else entirely

All of the stressor that we are faced with in our everyday lives. At
present my trying to care for an aging parent with an osteoarthritic
hip -- driving her to PT and doc appointments (not to mention taking
care of my own health and doc/dental appointments, etc.) and watching
her as one would a child to make sure she stays safe and doesn't ruin
my stuff is extremely tiring. Sometimes just being alive and trying
to get thru the day without those feelings of anxiety/fear/dread is
extremely tiring. Sooooo yes, all of the above add to your general
feeling of tiredness and/or down right frustration/hopelessness and
ill health.

snip:

And for me its not getting any better as I age. I am now starting to
worry about trivial stuff which leads to more anxiety. I'm told
increased worrying is an aging effect. Just what I need now. Blah!

-frizz

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weeks

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Jul 7, 2008, 10:00:00 AM7/7/08
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Hi, TJ,
Sorry to be so late in replying. I have thought about this Q off and on.

> as such, i would quite like to hear people's opinions as to how
> their anxiety disorder actually leads to excessive levels of fatigue.

> the following scenarios seem like good candidates:
>
> a) anxiety simply drains the body, leaving you pooped!

***Seems like this could be a possibility.

> b) anxiety ruins your sleep, you never feel rested.

***True for me. I am always tired and fatigued. Simply put I have a lack
of motivation and energy.

> c) meds leave you sedated, you have brainfog and worse!

***I do have some brainfog but I felt more tired on Xanax. I don't feel
that my Klonopin makes me feel like I need a nap, moreso underlying anxiety
itself.

> d) meds ruin your sleep, like (b) but you can blame your doctor =)

***Not true for me.

> e) an exhausting combination of the previous problems

***Something like that along with my what ifs over my driving.

> f) something else entirely
***No, I think it's anxiety related for me. I observe other family members
and friends and they all seem to have so much more energy than I do.
Overall I feel it's all lumped together. The meds, anxiety and my driving
phobia. I find myself depressed over the driving which then makes me
fatigued. It's like a battle I choose not to work on anymore.
smiles,
Elise

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