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ironjustice  
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 More options Jul 18, 10:39 am
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From: ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:39:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 10:39 am
Subject: Cognition and Iron Loading
Amelioration of recognition memory impairment associated with iron
loading or aging by the type 4-specific phosphodiesterase inhibitor
rolipram in rats.
de Lima MN, Presti-Torres J, Garcia VA, Guimarães MR, Scalco FS,
Roesler R, Schröder N
Neuropharmacology 2008 Jun 21.

Increasing evidence indicates that iron deposition in the brain might
play a role in cognitive dysfunction associated with neurodegenerative
disorders and aging. Previous studies have not examined whether iron-
induced memory deficits can be attenuated by acute treatments with
memory-enhancing agents. Phosphodiesterase type 4 (PDE4) inhibitors
such as rolipram (ROL) ameliorate memory impairments in several rodent
models of amnesia and have been proposed as candidate cognitive-
enhancing drugs. Here we show that a single posttraining systemic
injection of ROL dose-dependently attenuates the impairment of memory
for novel object recognition (NOR) in rats given neonatal iron
loading, a model of iron-induced cognitive impairment. Posttraining
administration of ROL also recovered NOR deficits associated with
aging in rats. These findings provide the first evidence that
stimulation of an intracellular second messenger signaling pathway can
attenuate iron-induced memory impairment, and support the view that
PDE4 inhibitors might ameliorate cognitive dysfunction associated with
aging and neurodegenerative disorders.

Neuropharmacology [Neuropharmacology]

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 More options Jul 18, 12:46 pm
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From: ferr...@ironcity.com
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:46:48 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: Cognition and Iron Loading
Two examples of why low iron is the world's number one health problem,
especially its impact on problems of cognition.

   Iron-deficient Infants Have Lower Cognitive Scores At 19 ...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/11/061107082729.htm

Also:

Impact of iron supplementation on cognitive functions in preschool and
school-aged children: the Indian experience

   Article Abstract:

   Iron deficiency is a common health problem among children living in
   India. Approximately 60 percent of children under age three years and
   44 percent between the ages of three and five years have low
   hemoglobin levels. In iron deficiency, the hemoglobin concentration in
   red blood cells is reduced, which prevents delivery of adequate
   amounts of oxygen to body tissues. Previous research has suggested
   that iron deficiency may cause children to perform poorly on cognitive
   or mental tests. The authors report results from four studies of iron
   supplementation using elemental iron in children of different ages.

There is that india again, it keeps popping up.


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 More options Jul 18, 1:18 pm
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From: ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:18:40 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: Cognition and Iron Loading
On Jul 18, 9:46 am, ferr...@ironcity.com wrote: iron loading <<

What you should do is include a study which shows .. iron
deficiency .. causes iron loading .. ?

Try that ..

Not .. iron .. deficiency ..

The article is about .. iron .. loading ..

Maybe you should start a thread about .. iron .. deficiency .. ?

Do you understand the difference between iron loading and iron
deficiency .. ?

Do ya .. ?

One .. there is PLENTY of iron .. the other .. there isn't supposed to
be ANY iron ..

You see the difference .. ?

Iron YES versus .. NO iron ..

Pretty easy to understand .. yes versus no ..

Use those well honed .. deductive skills ..

Amelioration of recognition memory impairment associated with iron
loading or aging by the type 4-specific phosphodiesterase inhibitor
rolipram in rats.
de Lima MN, Presti-Torres J, Garcia VA, Guimarães MR, Scalco FS,
Roesler R, Schröder N
Neuropharmacology 2008 Jun 21.

Increasing evidence indicates that iron deposition in the brain might
play a role in cognitive dysfunction associated with
neurodegenerative
disorders and aging. Previous studies have not examined whether iron-
induced memory deficits can be attenuated by acute treatments with
memory-enhancing agents. Phosphodiesterase type 4 (PDE4) inhibitors
such as rolipram (ROL) ameliorate memory impairments in several
rodent
models of amnesia and have been proposed as candidate cognitive-
enhancing drugs. Here we show that a single posttraining systemic
injection of ROL dose-dependently attenuates the impairment of memory
for novel object recognition (NOR) in rats given neonatal iron
loading, a model of iron-induced cognitive impairment. Posttraining
administration of ROL also recovered NOR deficits associated with
aging in rats. These findings provide the first evidence that
stimulation of an intracellular second messenger signaling pathway
can
attenuate iron-induced memory impairment, and support the view that
PDE4 inhibitors might ameliorate cognitive dysfunction associated
with
aging and neurodegenerative disorders.

Neuropharmacology [Neuropharmacology]

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http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk


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 More options Jul 18, 3:29 pm
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From: ferr...@ironcity.com
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:29:06 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: Cognition and Iron Loading
"Do you understand the difference between iron loading and iron
deficiency .. ?"

Yes, and the one has been shown to correlate with the other.

Would you suggest those indian mothers and their children with cognitive
problems have high iron loading?  If iron causes all diseases/disorders
because people eat meat, what gives with them?

India just keeps popping up again and again when it comes to wquestions of
litttle or no meat intake and high levels of various diseases/disorders.


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From: ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:24:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 18 2008 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: Cognition and Iron Loading
On Jul 18, 12:29 pm, ferr...@ironcity.com wrote: snip <<

The thread is  iron in brain leads to neurodegeneration ..

Your deduction skills leads you to  .. pregnant .. Indian .. women ..

You may think in your brain .. you have something to contribute .. but
evidentally .. you .. don't ..

Find something to .. do ..

Amelioration of recognition memory impairment associated with iron
loading or aging by the type 4-specific phosphodiesterase inhibitor
rolipram in rats.
de Lima MN, Presti-Torres J, Garcia VA, Guimarães MR, Scalco FS,
Roesler R, Schröder N
Neuropharmacology 2008 Jun 21.

Increasing evidence indicates that iron deposition in the brain might
play a role in cognitive dysfunction associated with
neurodegenerative
disorders and aging. Previous studies have not examined whether iron-
induced memory deficits can be attenuated by acute treatments with
memory-enhancing agents. Phosphodiesterase type 4 (PDE4) inhibitors
such as rolipram (ROL) ameliorate memory impairments in several
rodent
models of amnesia and have been proposed as candidate cognitive-
enhancing drugs. Here we show that a single posttraining systemic
injection of ROL dose-dependently attenuates the impairment of memory
for novel object recognition (NOR) in rats given neonatal iron
loading, a model of iron-induced cognitive impairment. Posttraining
administration of ROL also recovered NOR deficits associated with
aging in rats. These findings provide the first evidence that
stimulation of an intracellular second messenger signaling pathway
can
attenuate iron-induced memory impairment, and support the view that
PDE4 inhibitors might ameliorate cognitive dysfunction associated
with
aging and neurodegenerative disorders.

Neuropharmacology [Neuropharmacology]

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Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595

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 More options Jul 19, 8:18 pm
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From: ferr...@ironcity.com
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:18:03 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sat, Jul 19 2008 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: Cognition and Iron Loading
"The thread is  iron in brain leads to neurodegeneration .."

Not according to the subject line, it is about cognition and iron loading;  
which includes those cognition problems from low iron.  Low iron is the
world's number one health problem, two among many many examples provided
you previously.  Recall india?  Little or no meat, low iron problem in
children and women leading to many cognition problems, world's highest
levels of diabetes and heart disease etc., a direct and specific
refutation of the iron causes all diseases because people eat meat notion.  
Dead as a dodo.

Jesus ate a mediterranean diet.


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 More options Jul 19, 11:23 pm
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From: "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:23:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 19 2008 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: Cognition and Iron Loading
On Jul 19, 5:18 pm, ferr...@ironcity.com wrote: Recall india?  Little
or no meat, low iron problem in children and women leading to many
cognition problems, <<

Low iron .. ?

You mean they weren't low on anything else .. ?

They got really lucky when you think of the effects of starvation.

They could have been low in many different nutrients.

On Jul 19, 5:18 pm, ferr...@ironcity.com wrote: world's highest levels
of diabetes and heart disease etc., a direct and specific refutation
of the iron causes all diseases because people eat meat notion. <<

They have the highest blood iron levels of anybody.
They have high diabetes.
High iron is found in diabetes.
What you should be doing is trying to figure out WHY they have such a
high rate of iron overload and diabetes.

You won't listen to me .. so .. work at it .. boi.

Come back when you have .. dedeuced .. WHY .. "Asians have the highest
blood iron levels of any race in the world" ..

Don't ya .. think .. ?

Asking a loon on the internet .. really .. using .. logic .. is
kinda .. stupid.

Isn't it .. ?

And you ain't .. stupid ..

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 "The thread is  iron in brain leads to neurodegeneration .."


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From: ferr...@ironcity.com
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:46:35 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 11:46 am
Subject: Re: Cognition and Iron Loading
The iron notion is a stool with 3 legs.  One says iron is the cause of all
disease.  Another says meat is the source of the iron. nd the last says
eating meat and the iron caused all diseases is punishment from God for
eating the meat.

In india we have little or no meat intake so what iron stores there are
are from plant sources.  They have the world's highest levels of diabetes
and heart disease while at the same time children and women suffer from
low iron and resulting cognition problems.  Two of the leggs are broken
and God cares little about such fool notions.

The iron notion is dead as a dodo.

Jesus ate a mediterranean diet.


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Discussion subject changed to "Frantic Ferrous" by ironjustice
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From: ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:58:26 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 3:58 pm
Subject: Frantic Ferrous
On Jul 20, 8:46 am, ferr...@ironcity.com wrote: snip<<

You may think in your brain .. you have something to contribute ..
but
evidentally .. you .. don't ..

Find something to .. do ..

Amelioration of recognition memory impairment associated with iron
loading or aging by the type 4-specific phosphodiesterase inhibitor
rolipram in rats.
de Lima MN, Presti-Torres J, Garcia VA, Guimarães MR, Scalco FS,
Roesler R, Schröder N
Neuropharmacology 2008 Jun 21.

Increasing evidence indicates that iron deposition in the brain might
play a role in cognitive dysfunction associated with
neurodegenerative
disorders and aging. Previous studies have not examined whether iron-
induced memory deficits can be attenuated by acute treatments with
memory-enhancing agents. Phosphodiesterase type 4 (PDE4) inhibitors
such as rolipram (ROL) ameliorate memory impairments in several
rodent
models of amnesia and have been proposed as candidate cognitive-
enhancing drugs. Here we show that a single posttraining systemic
injection of ROL dose-dependently attenuates the impairment of memory
for novel object recognition (NOR) in rats given neonatal iron
loading, a model of iron-induced cognitive impairment. Posttraining
administration of ROL also recovered NOR deficits associated with
aging in rats. These findings provide the first evidence that
stimulation of an intracellular second messenger signaling pathway
can
attenuate iron-induced memory impairment, and support the view that
PDE4 inhibitors might ameliorate cognitive dysfunction associated
with
aging and neurodegenerative disorders.

Neuropharmacology [Neuropharmacology]

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Man Is A Herbivore!
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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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 More options Jul 20, 8:34 pm
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From: ferr...@ironcity.com
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:34:55 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: Frantic Ferrous
You might want to get a good psychology source and see what the term
'projection' means.

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From: "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:11:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Frantic Ferrous