Other groups besides A.A.
syt...@yahoo.com
I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
whole lot of denial in A.A..
Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
in Central,New Jersey.
Thanks,
Sy
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Blue Moon
>I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
>some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
>
>I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
>who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
>whole lot of denial in A.A..
>
>Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
>in Central,New Jersey.
Not aware of any real choice other than meetings in another town. I'm
also in NJ, and it surprises me how different the faces all are just
by driving a few miles.
Of course, you might get the same message of ignorance elsewhere. But
you might not. Where I am (north NJ) there's a big treatment centre
nearby, so the AA rooms seem to have been dealt a heavy influence from
the teachings there. Some of which is, I'm afraid, nonsense.
Not sure quite where you are, but I might personally be tempted to
check out one of the AgnosticAA meetings around the New York area.
Can also be helpful for me sometimes to quit just listening and start
doing.
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Blue Moon
Craig S.
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>
>
> I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
> some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
>
> I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
> who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
> whole lot of denial in A.A..
>
> Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
> in Central,New Jersey.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sy
MODERATION MANAGEMENT
New Jersey:
ASBURY PARK
Saturdays, 10:30 to 11:30 A.M.
Trinity Episcopal Church
503 Asbury Avenue (corner of Grand Ave)
The first meeting will be on July 12th
asb...@moderation.org
or call 212-871-0974
The meeting is in the building next to the
church, at the back of the parking lot. If the
double-glass doors are locked, ring the bell. If
not, go in and turn left.
MORRISTOWN
Tuesdays 7:30 p.m.
St. Mark Lutheran Church, 100 Harter Road
Right at exit 33 (Harter Road exit) of route 287, just east of the highway.
Primary Facilitator: Rudy
rhoe...@aol.com
973-984-2976
Meetings will not take place July 15-Sept 2, 2003, but will resume every
Tuesday starting Sept 9, 2003
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In article <86082891f09ed14a...@news.teranews.com>, Blue
Moon <mfoc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Thanks for your feedback.
I did check out Agnostic A.A. but none in N.J..
Actually, I don't have that much of an issue with the "higher power".
Just a recent realization that lots of A.A.'s are very rigid,
mean-spirited and emotionally "dead". It took me 3 years to come to
that conclusion but unfortunately, that's what I'm seeing lately.
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rosie readandpost
i KNOW what you mean when you refer to "very rigid, mean-spirited and emotionally "dead"............................i
RUN as fast as i can away from those folks!
good luck to you!
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rosie
new virus:
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<syt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:200820031728402005%syt...@yahoo.com...
Craig S.
> the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
>
> In article <86082891f09ed14a...@news.teranews.com>, Blue
> Moon <mfoc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> I did check out Agnostic A.A. but none in N.J..
>
> Actually, I don't have that much of an issue with the "higher power".
> Just a recent realization that lots of A.A.'s are very rigid,
> mean-spirited and emotionally "dead". It took me 3 years to come to
> that conclusion but unfortunately, that's what I'm seeing lately.
Doesn't sound like you've been hitting your knees enough lately. He sees
you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake.
Joe
>
>
>I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
>some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
>
>I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
>who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
>whole lot of denial in A.A..
>
>Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
>in Central,New Jersey.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sy
Smartrecovery.org has meeting listed by state. There are quite a few
in NJ, but they may not all be good anymore. Check it out! Cya
Joe Milon
stuart
> the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
>
> In article <86082891f09ed14a...@news.teranews.com>, Blue
> Moon <mfoc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> I did check out Agnostic A.A. but none in N.J..
>
> Actually, I don't have that much of an issue with the "higher power".
> Just a recent realization that lots of A.A.'s are very rigid,
> mean-spirited and emotionally "dead". It took me 3 years to come to
> that conclusion but unfortunately, that's what I'm seeing lately.
You'll get over them, once the steps begin to work for you. After all, why
are you there? For you, or for them? Or both?
Maybe staying on, and being better than them will eventually rub off on
them, then, once they're better, you can move on and start your own recovery
program.
Just a thought.
rosie readandpost
> Doesn't sound like you've been hitting your knees enough lately. He sees
> you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake.
>
>
ROTFLMAO!
Moonraker
"rosie readandpost" <readandpos...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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rosie readandpost
>
>>> He sees
> > > you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake.
chill hon!
Moonraker
NO. Answer the question.
rosie readandpost
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>
> NO. Answer the question.
sweetie,
a joke loses something when you have to explain it, but for you? anything!
rosie
Santa Clause Is Coming To Town
(Chorus:)
You better watch out
You better not cry
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why;
Santa Clause is coming to town.
He's making a list
Checking it twice
He's gonna find out
Who's naughty and nice
Santa Claus is coming to town.
He see's you when your sleeping
He knows when your awake.
He knows if you've been good or bad
So be good for goodness sake!
(chorus)
With little tin horns
and little toy drums,
rooty - toot - toot and rummy - tum - tums,
Santa Claus is coming to town!
Curly head dolls that toddle and coo;
elephants, boats and kiddie cars too,
Santa Clause is coming to town
>
>
>
Moonraker
>
> sweetie,
> a joke loses something when you have to explain it, but for you? anything!
>
> rosie
>
I see. so you took this quote:
"Doesn't sound like you've been hitting your knees enough lately. He sees
you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake."
And related it into a kid's Christmas song?
Your spiritual bankruptcy is SO apparent.
rosie readandpost
> And related it into a kid's Christmas song?
>
> Your spiritual bankruptcy is SO apparent.
>
>
>
ya think?
ROTFLMAO!
Gail
126 Shopping days left before Christmas.
Rosie, a little early for Christmas songs isn't it? LOL
Oh shit, now I will be singing that song all day!
Thanks,
Gail
Ken Bessler
Sounds like Moonraker could use a Librium pill or 2 or 10......
Ken
rosie readandpost
> 126 Shopping days left before Christmas.
> Rosie, a little early for Christmas songs isn't it? LOL
> Oh shit, now I will be singing that song all day!
> Thanks,
> Gail
>
>
don't you just hate it when that happens?
quick! go find some music and blast it!
i have a great stereo in my car, and i intend to get that song out of my head while i'm driving to meet tom for lunch!
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, marvin gaye here i come!
rosie
rosie readandpost
>
> Sounds like Moonraker could use a Librium pill or 2 or 10......
>
> Ken
>
>
:)
( i better not LOL to loudly, it seems that mooney is in another one of his moods!)
Ken Bessler
{whispering}
L.....O......L.......
Oh, what the hell - after NOT drinking almost 260 beers..........
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
Ken
Alcohol:
2w 3d 12:39 beer-free, 6 Libriums taken,
259 beers not consumed, $157.73 saved,
21:35 life saved
Cigarettes:
6 years, 10 months, 3 weeks, 18 hours, 24 mins & 18 secs.
62894 cigarettes not smoked, saving $7,861.77.
Life saved: 31 weeks, 1 day, 9 hours, 10 minutes.
debs
debs
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>
> Your spiritual bankruptcy is SO apparent.
oh-oh. sounds like somebody is Hungry, Angry, Lonely, or Tired.
azure
Ken
Bingo
Benjamin Cicelske
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Benjamin Cicelske <blea...@comcast.com> wrote:
> what does ROTFLMAO mean?
Rolling On The Floor Licking My Ass Out
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David Bruce Jr
You could also join a yahoo mailing list, the best one I found is
on the topic of sexual addiction
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/astarttorecovery/
[the reason I like this one is that sex is ont something that one is
going to completely avoid, with a substance one can easily be
a 'dry drunk', stopping the substance is not the same thing as
recovering]
Hope that helps
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>
>
> I've been going to A.A. meetings for almost 3 years. The program has
> some very positive benefits and has helped me in lots of ways.
>
> I also believe that there are LOTS of very dogmatic and nasty people
> who are extremely intolerant and don't seem to have a clue. There is a
> whole lot of denial in A.A..
>
> Can anyone recommend any other recovery groups that have meetings? I'm
> in Central,New Jersey.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sy
>
> --
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different groups are: For LSR or Lifering Secular Recovery -
http://www.unhooked.com ; Smart recovery- http://www.smartrecovery.org There
are others also, but both of these have meetings in some parts of the
country. LSR has an excellent email list that you can gain access to from
the website and smart has a message board. They both have online meetings
also. Personally I get what I can from various sources.
Gregg
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rosie
other ways to sober up, and finding out what works for each of us is
very important.
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nation."
..................................................................Jo
hn Kerry
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"Gregg Fowler" <totsob...@NOSPAMnetzero.com> wrote in message
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: There are other recovery groups for alcohol also. Websites
: >
: >
:
:
Robert McGregor
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> thanks for reposting the links greg........................there
ARE
> other ways to sober up, and finding out what works for each of us
is
> very important.
>
From: "rosie@readandpost" <readand...@yahoo.com>
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> i have a private practice and take care of those who have
difficulty
>staying sober, after attendance in treatments
> and/or recovery programs
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> you can always use my email.
David Bruce Jr
http://www.victimbehavior.com/politics/
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Wow! What a concept!
Pre-emptive victim behaviour!
Bob