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Re: City On The Edge Of Forever--- J.J. Abrams style?
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StuckUp...@here.com
May 12, 2012, 11:05:13 AM5/12/12
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:39:03 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:
>In article <d970675a4296b927a...@newsproxy.124>,
> StuckUp...@here.com wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:22:03 -0800 (PST), Will Dockery
>> <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >[QUOTE who="Amazed"]I think there is a real problem in trying to do a
>> >new series. In all science fiction that is visual, i.e. TV, movies, I
>> >think there is always a tension between action, drama, and
>> >characterization. When I look back at some of my favorite episodes of
>> >any of the series, especially since I have seen many of them lots of
>> >times, I find that there is a scene or a small number of scenes that
>> >is what causes the show to be so great. Everything else seems to go
>> >around that. For instance, in The City on The Edge of Forever, for me,
>> >and I think for many, it is that scene at the end, where Edith is
>> >killed and Kirk is so torn that does it. It's like a good joke. Most
>> >jokes are based on misdirection. The build up gets you thinking in a
>> >certain way and then all of a sudden the punch line comes out of left
>> >field, and that is what causes the big laugh. It is the combination of
>> >all of the aspects of putting a show together, the writing, the
>> >acting, the directing, that creates those moments, and I think that
>> >they are the essence of the popularity of the show. In The Inner
>> >Light, that comes when he sees all the people who, for him, died years
>> >ago, and realizes that the entire experience has come full circle.[/
>> >QUOTE]
>> >
>> >Interesting that you mention "City On The Edge Of Forever" for the new
>> >rebooted Star Trek, as I was discussing the JJ Abrams sequel and what
>> >they might be having in this so far top secret film, I mentioned that,
>> >since this is an alternate reality caused by Nero & Spock's time
>> >travel, this could be a chance for Harlan Ellison's script to be
>> >filmed "as is", meaning as he wrote it, with the Jewels Of Sound drug,
>> >the costly special effects, the slightly "off" characterizations and
>> >depictions of the Enterprise and crew... since that's what Abrams is
>> >going for anyway?
>> >
>> >I dig it, but at the rate the films are getting made there probably
>> >won't be that many before even the Abrams reboot is rebooted.
>>
>> If I recall the original episode,
>
>You don't
>
> there wasn't any "city" ... just a
>> giant flashing rock washer that spoke DEEPLY. Some "city"
>
>There were in fact two cities, one of which was 1930's New York.
Uh, you manage to be both wrong and wrong again.
When Kirk&Co. beamed down, there were only knocked over ancient
Stonehenge-like columns and this BIG giant round rock Lifesaver
"Guardian of Forever" that suddenly began to talk and flash. THAT is
supposed to be a city? Stonehenge is suddenly a "city" huh? No, it
isn't. Wrong. Too many.
And as far as you claiming there were TWO cities (with one being 1930s
New York) uh, that was on the giant time travel image on the rock
Lifesaver's middle belly button time TV screen...and there were many
cities, not just NY... since the GOF was showing history with LOTS of
cities and times and peoples, hell, showed it again for Spock, there
were MANY MANY cities being shown. Not just NY.
Wrong. Not enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnMSXenjycM&feature=related
Fuck you JJ. Ain't no Good Times on this rebootrek.
So blartttttt, you lose. Twice with one head up yer arse.
In the future, when you next demonstrate how much of a smartass your
brother/sister parents made you, you might want to work on the "smart"
part...
...you've already gotten the "ass" part down to perfection, dumbass.
Obviously, you are a Trekkie who believes that mental masturbation is
an Olympic event. Tug long and splatter. Your mommy says to turn off
the basement light before you go to sleep.
wrote:
>In article <d970675a4296b927a...@newsproxy.124>,
> StuckUp...@here.com wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:22:03 -0800 (PST), Will Dockery
>> <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >[QUOTE who="Amazed"]I think there is a real problem in trying to do a
>> >new series. In all science fiction that is visual, i.e. TV, movies, I
>> >think there is always a tension between action, drama, and
>> >characterization. When I look back at some of my favorite episodes of
>> >any of the series, especially since I have seen many of them lots of
>> >times, I find that there is a scene or a small number of scenes that
>> >is what causes the show to be so great. Everything else seems to go
>> >around that. For instance, in The City on The Edge of Forever, for me,
>> >and I think for many, it is that scene at the end, where Edith is
>> >killed and Kirk is so torn that does it. It's like a good joke. Most
>> >jokes are based on misdirection. The build up gets you thinking in a
>> >certain way and then all of a sudden the punch line comes out of left
>> >field, and that is what causes the big laugh. It is the combination of
>> >all of the aspects of putting a show together, the writing, the
>> >acting, the directing, that creates those moments, and I think that
>> >they are the essence of the popularity of the show. In The Inner
>> >Light, that comes when he sees all the people who, for him, died years
>> >ago, and realizes that the entire experience has come full circle.[/
>> >QUOTE]
>> >
>> >Interesting that you mention "City On The Edge Of Forever" for the new
>> >rebooted Star Trek, as I was discussing the JJ Abrams sequel and what
>> >they might be having in this so far top secret film, I mentioned that,
>> >since this is an alternate reality caused by Nero & Spock's time
>> >travel, this could be a chance for Harlan Ellison's script to be
>> >filmed "as is", meaning as he wrote it, with the Jewels Of Sound drug,
>> >the costly special effects, the slightly "off" characterizations and
>> >depictions of the Enterprise and crew... since that's what Abrams is
>> >going for anyway?
>> >
>> >I dig it, but at the rate the films are getting made there probably
>> >won't be that many before even the Abrams reboot is rebooted.
>>
>> If I recall the original episode,
>
>You don't
>
> there wasn't any "city" ... just a
>> giant flashing rock washer that spoke DEEPLY. Some "city"
>
>There were in fact two cities, one of which was 1930's New York.
Uh, you manage to be both wrong and wrong again.
When Kirk&Co. beamed down, there were only knocked over ancient
Stonehenge-like columns and this BIG giant round rock Lifesaver
"Guardian of Forever" that suddenly began to talk and flash. THAT is
supposed to be a city? Stonehenge is suddenly a "city" huh? No, it
isn't. Wrong. Too many.
And as far as you claiming there were TWO cities (with one being 1930s
New York) uh, that was on the giant time travel image on the rock
Lifesaver's middle belly button time TV screen...and there were many
cities, not just NY... since the GOF was showing history with LOTS of
cities and times and peoples, hell, showed it again for Spock, there
were MANY MANY cities being shown. Not just NY.
Wrong. Not enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnMSXenjycM&feature=related
Fuck you JJ. Ain't no Good Times on this rebootrek.
So blartttttt, you lose. Twice with one head up yer arse.
In the future, when you next demonstrate how much of a smartass your
brother/sister parents made you, you might want to work on the "smart"
part...
...you've already gotten the "ass" part down to perfection, dumbass.
Obviously, you are a Trekkie who believes that mental masturbation is
an Olympic event. Tug long and splatter. Your mommy says to turn off
the basement light before you go to sleep.
Wiseguy
May 12, 2012, 5:35:50 PM5/12/12
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StuckUp...@here.com wrote in
news:ohtsq7t2f8psms79p...@anonymous.eternal-september.org:
You're the one who doesn't get it. The city in the title refers to the
ancient ruins where the Guardian is. What happened to the city and how
long ago it happened are irrelevant. It was a city. How stupid do you
have to be to not understand it?
> And as far as you claiming there were TWO cities (with one being 1930s
> New York) uh, that was on the giant time travel image on the rock
> Lifesaver's middle belly button time TV screen...and there were many
> cities, not just NY... since the GOF was showing history with LOTS of
> cities and times and peoples, hell, showed it again for Spock, there
> were MANY MANY cities being shown. Not just NY.
>
> Wrong. Not enough.
>
OK, you said lifesaver twice. That's enough. It only makes you look
twice as stupid.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnMSXenjycM&feature=related
> Fuck you JJ. Ain't no Good Times on this rebootrek.
>
> So blartttttt, you lose. Twice with one head up yer arse.
>
You're looking in a mirror. That's your head up your ass and your foot
in your mouth.
> In the future, when you next demonstrate how much of a smartass your
> brother/sister parents made you, you might want to work on the "smart"
> part...
>
> ...you've already gotten the "ass" part down to perfection, dumbass.
>
Keep going, you're proving my point.
> Obviously, you are a Trekkie who believes that mental masturbation is
> an Olympic event. Tug long and splatter. Your mommy says to turn off
> the basement light before you go to sleep.
>
>
Your mommy says, "Do me again, if you can find your dick."
news:ohtsq7t2f8psms79p...@anonymous.eternal-september.org:
ancient ruins where the Guardian is. What happened to the city and how
long ago it happened are irrelevant. It was a city. How stupid do you
have to be to not understand it?
> And as far as you claiming there were TWO cities (with one being 1930s
> New York) uh, that was on the giant time travel image on the rock
> Lifesaver's middle belly button time TV screen...and there were many
> cities, not just NY... since the GOF was showing history with LOTS of
> cities and times and peoples, hell, showed it again for Spock, there
> were MANY MANY cities being shown. Not just NY.
>
> Wrong. Not enough.
>
twice as stupid.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnMSXenjycM&feature=related
> Fuck you JJ. Ain't no Good Times on this rebootrek.
>
> So blartttttt, you lose. Twice with one head up yer arse.
>
in your mouth.
> In the future, when you next demonstrate how much of a smartass your
> brother/sister parents made you, you might want to work on the "smart"
> part...
>
> ...you've already gotten the "ass" part down to perfection, dumbass.
>
> Obviously, you are a Trekkie who believes that mental masturbation is
> an Olympic event. Tug long and splatter. Your mommy says to turn off
> the basement light before you go to sleep.
>
>
GeneK
May 14, 2012, 11:06:00 AM5/14/12
to StuckUp...@here.com
On 5/12/2012 8:05 AM, StuckUp...@here.com wrote:
> When Kirk&Co. beamed down, there were only knocked over ancient
> Stonehenge-like columns and this BIG giant round rock Lifesaver
> "Guardian of Forever" that suddenly began to talk and flash. THAT is
> supposed to be a city?
The Guardian's city is not shown, but is referred to in dialog ("These
> When Kirk&Co. beamed down, there were only knocked over ancient
> Stonehenge-like columns and this BIG giant round rock Lifesaver
> "Guardian of Forever" that suddenly began to talk and flash. THAT is
> supposed to be a city?
ruins extend to the horizon.")
NYC as the second city is metaphorical. Kirk and Spock travel there,
and unless they succeed in their mission, history will remain changed
forever.
GeneK
anim8rFSK
May 14, 2012, 2:35:03 PM5/14/12
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In article <4FB11F58.3000002@genek_hates_spammers.com>,
Hey GeneK (waves)!
--
So we're all agreed that Clod is as stupid as Charlie Sheen?
--
So we're all agreed that Clod is as stupid as Charlie Sheen?
Duggy
May 14, 2012, 7:58:30 PM5/14/12
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With the Star Trek comics doing reboot versions of the original series
episodes... I think going back to the (too long and expensive to film)
version of the script might be the way to go... what do others think?
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= DUG.
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episodes... I think going back to the (too long and expensive to film)
version of the script might be the way to go... what do others think?
===
= DUG.
===
Adam H. Kerman
May 14, 2012, 9:24:08 PM5/14/12
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crosspost without warning those reading the thread.
Duggy
May 15, 2012, 12:28:37 AM5/15/12
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On May 15, 11:24 am, "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
Moved from rec.arts.tv to rec.arts.sf.tv.
Sorry that disrupted your experience.
Moron.
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= DUG.
===
Sorry that disrupted your experience.
Moron.
===
= DUG.
===
StuckUp...@here.com
May 25, 2012, 11:55:19 PM5/25/12
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for short bus riders. I bet you were the valedictorian who could
count to potato.
Wiseguy
May 26, 2012, 1:09:08 AM5/26/12
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StuckUp...@here.com wrote in
news:rtk0s79h0ubud4r5k...@anonymous.eternal-september.org:
At least try to make sense. I was only speaking at a level you could
understand. Don't blame me because you're a moron.
news:rtk0s79h0ubud4r5k...@anonymous.eternal-september.org:
understand. Don't blame me because you're a moron.
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