DarkStar wrote:Of course, you haven't yet explained why this renders EU null and void
> > > > > "Celes Knight" <My_First_and_Last_N...@rconnectSP.AMcom.SPAM> wrote
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > Which part of the rules are bad? Point them out.
> > > > > 1. The SW canon policy. (ignores Lucas)
> > > > Nothing Lucas says contradicts current policy.
> > > (sigh)
> > Don't sigh me, bitchtits. I've read that quote and he does nothing to
> Yes, I know, "everything's interpretation and nothing means anything", blah
in terms of evidence.
> > > > > 2. The ST canon policy. (based on Ordover)...er, so? He's Star Trek. He edits the books. Sucks for you.
> > > > And the information on StarTrek.com.
> > > Actually, I don't disagree with the ST policy itself, just the fact that
> > ...a matter on which, of course, you have total say?
> He's not Paramount, and Gaskill agreed.
> > > > Meanwhile, we always get dicks like you who prance in here withWhich has never been stated anywhere. Ever.
> > > > eloquent sophistry about how our current rules are wrong because "oh,
> > > > Lucas meant THIS, not THAT" and that sort of shit, which has the
> > > > resulting impression of the Trekkie (you) trying your damndest to
> > > > the Warsies (us). And I've noticed that it's picked up ever since
> > > > SW2:ICS came out.
> > > Well, there was already plenty of evidence to suggest that the EU wasn't
> > The EU was NEVER considered canon. It was called official. Which is as
> "wasn't canon" = "had no canonicity whatsoever"
> You're ascribing a level of canonicity to something which never had it.
> Also, I've never found the source for the idea that something from theThat's a logical extrapolation by us.
> non-canon is "canon unless contradicted by canon", or the alternate version
> which says that unless the canon _directly_ contradicts the official, that
> the official is only wrong "on that point." Do you know anything about the
> source of that? I haven't found it anywhere.
> > > Then, Lucas' comments aboutSo the EU is so out of tune with the "real" universe that it's totally
> > > the EU being a parallel universe and not his world cinched it up.
> > Oh really? So a parallel universe wouldn't match up at all with the
> Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't. In a parallel universe, you and I might
> > Or maybe he meant "parallel universe" in the sense that ifWhere?
> > something he did contradicted official material, it could easily be
> > explained as a "parallel universe"?
> He never says anything of the sort. He refers to the entire world of
> >Here's some more for ya: Lucas hasStrawman attack. I'm saying that Lucas can do as he chooses, which is
> > incorporated EU into Canon, the most obvious inclusion being Coruscant.
> So? Elements that fall under "Infinities" have been incorporated into the
the point of that quote.
> But, you must also then argue that your argument does not give any of theI'd say the same for you, but you don't even have an argument, just
> EU's continuity (or canonicity) to Infinities tales.
> Pick a consistent argument.
> > Oh, and I'll remind you that your argument/Lucas's quote only affectsI take that back.
> > the novels, not the reference books and manuals based on Canon, such as
> > SW2:ICS.
> "There's my world, which is the movies, and there's this other world that
> Now, I think it is proper to exclude the _known canon books_ like the film
Do me a favor and provide a source for that quote.
> > > > I'm sick of this canon bitching. The Trekkies have six hundred fuckingThe fuck he is. You're just trying to ream us with this because you
> > > > hours of canon to work with. We have about TEN, not counting the
> > > > novelizations, Radio scripts, etc.
> > > So?
> > Stop trying to neuter us just because you can't win.
> I'm not neutering you. Lucas is.
can't win any other way. We've had no problems with this before.
> Besides, can't you win with canon?Why should I trust you to accept canon evidence?
> > > >Stop crying because of 200GTNice, you snip my reply and ignore it. Others have done that before. It
> > > > turbolasers.
> > > They don't bother me. That figure is just crap.
has not gone over well.
"It's tasteless, disgusting, and offensive. I love it."
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