Data vs. C3P0
JR
C3P0: Mastered something like 1 billion languages.
Data: Cannot even master english
C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
Data: Has an off switch
C3P0 is durable enough to endure desert planets with ease, boiling hot oil
baths are welcomed, he's fast when he needs to be and polite. Data is shown
to be taken down with minor electicity shots that infect him with virus' and
force him to shutdown. Data is outfitted with mechanics that can take over
and control his actions. C3P0 has free will. Strength wise, C3P0 as a
droid is probably equal if not physically superior. Speed, same story.
Additionally, C3P0 can be mass produced - Data can't (nor could he say the
word "can't").
Winner: Easily, C3P0.
Elim Garak
>
> Good fight here.
>
> C3P0: Mastered something like 1 billion languages.
> Data: Cannot even master english
>
> C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
> Data: Has an off switch
Data: even with all of his scientific knowledge blocked was able to invent a cure for radiation sickness.
C3P0: probably couldn't add 2 and 2.
Data: when was taken over by Dr. Soong's commands, hijacked the entire Enterprise. Has been in battle situations on multiple
occasions.
C3P0: a wussy of the extreme order.
> C3P0 is durable enough to endure desert planets with ease,
LOL! So? Who says Data can't?
> boiling hot oil baths are welcomed,
Because he needs them in the first place.
> he's fast when he needs to be and polite.
Really? If that run of his is fast, then I am a purple chicken.
> Data is shown
> to be taken down with minor electicity shots that infect him with virus' and
> force him to shutdown.
? First of all are not minor. Second, prove that C3P0 in his place would have survived.
> Data is outfitted with mechanics that can take over and control his actions.
Mechanics? Don't you mean optronics?
> C3P0 has free will.
Prove that its creator has not put in a back door in him as well.
> Strength wise, C3P0 as a
> droid is probably equal if not physically superior.
Go away, troll, and come back when you grow a brain.
> Speed, same story.
> Additionally, C3P0 can be mass produced - Data can't (nor could he say the
> word "can't").
>
> Winner: Easily, C3P0.
Yea - but only if the contest is "which droid is a whinier and more useless piece of junk".
Chuck
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> In article <8e2jo3$18a$1...@nntp.ixcis.com>, "JR" <jret...@hotmail.com*>
wrote:
> >Good fight here.
> >
> Holy cow, it's the guy who argues Wolverine can beat Superman! (Although I
> admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights dirty, I
wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
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> >> admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
> >Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights dirty, I
> >wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
> >
I'd assume it could, and give the two roughly equal senses, so Logan
could win if he attacks from an ambush, something he is very good at...
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JR
"Elim Garak" <pol...@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
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> JR wrote:
> >
> > Good fight here.
> >
> > C3P0: Mastered something like 1 billion languages.
> > Data: Cannot even master english
> >
> > C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
> > Data: Has an off switch
Nothing to comment here? I guess we shall interpret your silence as, "Data
is inferior in these regards."
> Data: even with all of his scientific knowledge blocked was able to invent
a cure for radiation sickness.
> C3P0: probably couldn't add 2 and 2.
>
> Data: when was taken over by Dr. Soong's commands, hijacked the entire
Enterprise. Has been in battle situations on multiple
> occasions.
> C3P0: a wussy of the extreme order.
>
> > C3P0 is durable enough to endure desert planets with ease,
>
> LOL! So? Who says Data can't?
The burden of proof, my friend lies on your shoulders since Data has not
been shown to be able to survive. Who knows, I say. But one thing we do
know... C3P0 CAN.
> > boiling hot oil baths are welcomed,
>
> Because he needs them in the first place.
It is never implicidly stated he needs them to survive. It is likely they
are done for purely athetic reasons only, as it makes him look all nice and
shiny. Data has never been shown to be able survive boiling oil. I doubt
he can.
> > he's fast when he needs to be and polite.
>
> Really? If that run of his is fast, then I am a purple chicken.
I didn't think there were purple chickens... oh my.
> > Data is shown
> > to be taken down with minor electicity shots that infect him with virus'
and
> > force him to shutdown.
>
> ? First of all are not minor. Second, prove that C3P0 in his place would
have survived.
C3P0 survived a blaster shot, although he did needs some minor repairs
later. And it looked minor to me. Picard was in the same room and was not
even affected. Had it been severe, he would have at least felt the heat or
something. Nope.
Minor it is.
> > Data is outfitted with mechanics that can take over and control his
actions.
>
> Mechanics? Don't you mean optronics?
Same thing. And that doesn't do anything to counter this point. Data can
be turned into a zombie quite easily.
> > C3P0 has free will.
>
> Prove that its creator has not put in a back door in him as well.
It has never happened, so AGAIN - the burden of proof lies with you, my
friend. You cannot prove it, either.
> > Strength wise, C3P0 as a
> > droid is probably equal if not physically superior.
>
> Go away, troll, and come back when you grow a brain.
Ah, I see... rather than answer my questions you attack me personally. Oh
yea - I'm the troll all right. Droids have been shown capable of superior
feats of strength. As mechanical beings it is reasonable to suggest they
could have hyper strength. Data has been shown to be stronger than a
person, too - but who knows who is stronger. Who knows?
> > Speed, same story.
> > Additionally, C3P0 can be mass produced - Data can't (nor could he say
the
> > word "can't").
> >
> > Winner: Easily, C3P0.
>
> Yea - but only if the contest is "which droid is a whinier and more
useless piece of junk".
If you care to take that stance, I suggest you stop using inflammatory
insults and stop behaving like a child - and answer the points I bring up.
Until then, I would rather you not say anything at all, right now you appear
much like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum. You should get a grip if you
wish to use the newsgroup, friend.
JR
JR
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Kyle
>
> Yes, all these points were brought up by me. It is refreshing on this
> newsgroup there is some reason.
Excuse me? could you try that again, that seems a little incoherent to
me, I'm not sure what you meant to say.
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John E. Heynemann
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>
>
> Eframepilot <jt...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
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> > In article <8e2jo3$18a$1...@nntp.ixcis.com>, "JR" <jret...@hotmail.com*>
> wrote:
> > >Good fight here.
> > >
I
> > admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
> Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights dirty, I
> wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
>
in the memorable DC Vs. Marvel battle.
Sides, what good are admantium claws against a man with 30 plus years of
stored solar energy and heat vision to boot?
John E. Heynemann
I
> > >> admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
> > >Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights
dirty, I
> > >wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
> > >
>
> I'd assume it could, and give the two roughly equal senses, so Logan
> could win if he attacks from an ambush, something he is very good at...
Don't discount Superman's higher molecular density plus his force field like
built in 'structural integrity field.'
'Sides, Supes is actually faster than the Flash (and) if the wimpy DC
writers would be consistent could have Logan stripped, poked in the behind,
and sent to bed before old 'growl mouth' could yelp aloud.
John E. Heynemann
JR <jret...@hotmail.com*> wrote in message
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> Good fight here.
>
> C3P0: Mastered something like 1 billion languages.
> Data: Cannot even master english
>
> C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
> Data: Has an off switch
>
> baths are welcomed, he's fast when he needs to be and polite. Data is
shown
> to be taken down with minor electicity shots that infect him with virus'
and
over
> and control his actions. C3P0 has free will. Strength wise, C3P0 as a
> droid is probably equal if not physically superior. Speed, same story.
> Additionally, C3P0 can be mass produced - Data can't (nor could he say the
> word "can't").
>
> Winner: Easily, C3P0.
Ha! Ha! Ha! In your dreams, pal!
Data would only lose if his emotion chip kicked in and caused him to fall
down on the floor laughing everytime he sees C3P0 tottering towards him.
'Sides, Data is capable of fighting entire battles. All C3P0 could do is
yell "Oh, My!" and sputtering like some Gay Boy Toy whenever danger
appears.
Eframepilot
admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
>Data: Cannot even master english
>
>C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
>Data: Has an off switch
>
Still worked fine when they put it back on.
C3P0 also has an off switch, by the way.
>C3P0 is durable enough to endure desert planets with ease, boiling hot oil
>baths are welcomed, he's fast when he needs to be and polite.
superhuman speed (capability mentioned in "Descent part 1").
Data is shown
>to be taken down with minor electicity shots that infect him with virus' and
>force him to shutdown.
patterns.
Data is outfitted with mechanics that can take over
>and control his actions.
one could manipulate these without knowing 'em in advance.
>C3P0 has free will.
So does Data. Or does he? Do you? Does a cat? Does anyone?
Strength wise, C3P0 as a
>droid is probably equal if not physically superior.
<dr. evil> Riiiiight.</dr. evil>
C3P0 gets manhandled by everyone in the trilogy. Data is the strongest Star
Trek character next to Odo.
Speed, same story.
>Additionally, C3P0 can be mass produced - Data can't (nor could he say the
>word "can't").
>
There's no reason he can't be mass produced. But the creation of sentient life
for servile purposes violates Starfleet ethics. Their computer systems turn
sentient all the time accidentally, though.
>Winner: Easily, C3P0.
>
Data gets a golden C3P0-headsized ashtray.
Eframepilot
>
>
>Eframepilot <jt...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
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>wrote:
>> >Good fight here.
>> >
>> Holy cow, it's the guy who argues Wolverine can beat Superman! (Although I
>> admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
>wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
>
Superman accidentally impales himself, Wolverine might win. But it's about as
likely as Batman being beat by, well, me(with no weapons or preparation).
PREDATOR
JR wrote:
<snip>
> > > C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
> > > Data: Has an off switch
>
> Nothing to comment here? I guess we shall interpret your silence as, "Data
> is inferior in these regards."
Data's head can survive being trapped in a cave for hundreds of years.
<snip>
Dalton
C-3PO can survive being blown apart.
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>PREDATOR wrote:
>>
>> JR wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> > > > C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
>> > > > Data: Has an off switch
>> >
>> > Nothing to comment here? I guess we shall interpret your silence as, "Data
>> > is inferior in these regards."
>>
>> Data's head can survive being trapped in a cave for hundreds of years.
>>
>> <snip>
>
>C-3PO can survive being blown apart.
>
San Francisco (not the most stable part of the world) for 500 years! Data has
also been impaled by a spear, buried, and repaired, and he is bulletproof.
(Yeah it doesn't make sense. Don't whine to me.) :P
Dalton
>
> In article <3905239B...@erols.com>, Dalton <dalto...@erols.com> wrote:
> >PREDATOR wrote:
> >>
> >> JR wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> > > > C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
> >> > > > Data: Has an off switch
> >> >
> >> > Nothing to comment here? I guess we shall interpret your silence as, "Data
> >> > is inferior in these regards."
> >>
> >> Data's head can survive being trapped in a cave for hundreds of years.
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >
> >C-3PO can survive being blown apart.
> >
> What do you think happened to Data?
Shot? Don't quite remember that ep.
> And he was fine after his head sat under
> San Francisco (not the most stable part of the world) for 500 years! Data has
> also been impaled by a spear, buried, and repaired, and he is bulletproof.
> (Yeah it doesn't make sense. Don't whine to me.) :P
But wasn't it like a fairly large cavern? Ah well, it doesn't matter.
They both have that capability.
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Unique up on him, then blow it's cute little head off with a 12-gauge.
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It's clear that Data is better than C3PO...
However, a more fair contest based on intended capabilities
would be Data V. Guri... And it's clear Guri would be the winner
there. Not to mention looking like a real human and having
emotions as being additional advantages of Guri... Hell, I
wouldn't mind being a human replica droid of equal capabilities
to Guri.. I'd probably have a lifespan of three thousand years
or so, and nobody would ever tell the difference, and I could
rip apart a squad of commandos with my bare hands.. Fun life.
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Elim Garak
>
> > > Good fight here.
> > >
> > > Data: Cannot even master english
> > >
> > > Data: Has an off switch
>
> Nothing to comment here? I guess we shall interpret your silence as, "Data
> is inferior in these regards."
No, the first one cannot be considered because Data isn't supposed to be able to to speak "1 billion languages", even though he does
know at least two. It is not his function, and he doesn't really know his own design to add the functionality to himself. Dr. Sung
added this ability to him, BTW. Also, in ST there are such things as universal translators - and thus Data doesn't need that
ability.
The second one is simply idiotic. Data was taken apart on numerous occasions, and survived just fine. C3P0 also has an off switch.
> > Data: even with all of his scientific knowledge blocked was able to invent
> > a cure for radiation sickness.
> > C3P0: probably couldn't add 2 and 2.
> >
> > Data: when was taken over by Dr. Soong's commands, hijacked the entire
> > Enterprise. Has been in battle situations on multiple
> > occasions.
> > C3P0: a wussy of the extreme order.
Nothing to comment here? I guess we shall interpret your silence as, "C3P0 is inferior in these regards."
> > > C3P0 is durable enough to endure desert planets with ease,
> >
> > LOL! So? Who says Data can't?
>
> The burden of proof, my friend lies on your shoulders since Data has not
> been shown to be able to survive.
Heh - another example why that "burden of proof" rule is moronic in the extreme. Show me that C3P0 can walk underwater for hours
without any damage to his systems. That he can have water inside of him. Or that he can operate in vacuum. Those environments are
far more extreme than a simple desert.
> Who knows, I say. But one thing we do know... C3P0 CAN.
Yep. But Data can paint, play the violin, pilot a starship, design other androids (with limited success so far), argue philosophy,
perform repairs on numerous pieces of equipment, and taste drinks. He can even serve as a flotation device! Can C3P0 do all that?
> > > boiling hot oil baths are welcomed,
> >
> > Because he needs them in the first place.
>
> It is never implicidly stated he needs them to survive.
He does need it to keep his joints working properly.
> It is likely they
> are done for purely athetic reasons only, as it makes him look all nice and
> shiny.
Are you suggesting that farmer whats-his-name, Luke's uncle, was so considerate of his androids that he installed a beauty parlor
for them? That he had so much money that he just didn't know which way to throw them?
> Data has never been shown to be able survive boiling oil. I doubt he can.
I have no doubt that he can. He survived walking several km under water.
> > > he's fast when he needs to be and polite.
> >
> > Really? If that run of his is fast, then I am a purple chicken.
>
> I didn't think there were purple chickens... oh my.
What examples of C3P0's speed can you show me? Data can type and read much faster than a human, run, lift very heavy objects, etc.
Can C3P0 do any of that?
Can C3P0 jump several dozen meters without receiving any damage?
> > > Data is shown
> > > to be taken down with minor electicity shots that infect him with virus'
> > > and force him to shutdown.
> >
> > ? First of all are not minor. Second, prove that C3P0 in his place would
> > have survived.
>
> C3P0 survived a blaster shot,
I wouldn't call that "survival". He fell apart completely. Also, you have yet to show me that the blaster shot is equivalent to a
reprogramming by an alien computer.
BTW, Data survived a rather long burst from an automatic weapon. Can C3P0 do that? I think not, since he received large dents from
very small impacts.
> although he did needs some minor repairs later. And it looked minor to me.
Are you a computer?
> Picard was in the same room and was not even affected.
Duh! He wasn't a computer - of course he wasn't reprogrammed!
> Had it been severe, he would have at least felt the heat or something.
How do you know that he didn't feel the heat, smell the ozone, etc.?
> Nope.
>
> Minor it is.
>
> > > Data is outfitted with mechanics that can take over and control his actions.
> >
> > Mechanics? Don't you mean optronics?
>
> Same thing.
I guess then that a plow is the same thing as a computer... Interesting...
> And that doesn't do anything to counter this point.
It is a fact.
> Data can be turned into a zombie quite easily.
? I did not notice that. Perhaps easily if you are his creator, and know his internal systems inside and out, but then that is
even more true for C3P0.
> > > C3P0 has free will.
> >
> > Prove that its creator has not put in a back door in him as well.
>
> It has never happened,
Anakin never needed to control him. He also did not appear to be smart enough to do that. Didn't even give him a normal
personality.
> so AGAIN - the burden of proof lies with you, my friend. You cannot prove it, either.
I don't need to - it is too minor a point to consider. However, Data can close his fist entirely around a small object! Ha! Beat
that!
> > > Strength wise, C3P0 as a
> > > droid is probably equal if not physically superior.
> >
> > Go away, troll, and come back when you grow a brain.
>
> Ah, I see... rather than answer my questions you attack me personally. Oh
> yea - I'm the troll all right. Droids have been shown capable of superior
> feats of strength.
C3P0? He has been shown to lift heavy objects? He can't even make a fist, for gods sake! I am not sure he can even put his hands
down!
> As mechanical beings it is reasonable to suggest they
> could have hyper strength.
Not for C3P0. He has never been shown to even move at significant speeds. Can he crouch? Does he even have the dexterity to lift
his leg to 45 degrees?
> Data has been shown to be stronger than a
> person, too - but who knows who is stronger. Who knows?
We do. C3P0 can barely walk. To suggest that somebody installed powerful actuators into a system like that - more powerful than 3
people - is idiotic. Not only would that be wasteful, and unnecessary difficult, but it would also pose a danger to humans, as a
being of such clumsiness but large strength would be dangerous. Also C3P0's outer covering is too weak to allow him to lift heavy
objects - even if he could bend down to pick them up.
> > > Speed, same story.
? I have yet to see an example of C3P0 typing, not to mention typing quickly. Or doing anything at all quickly - except talk,
perhaps.
> > > Additionally, C3P0 can be mass produced - Data can't (nor could he say
> > > the word "can't").
> > >
> > > Winner: Easily, C3P0.
> >
> > Yea - but only if the contest is "which droid is a whinier and more
> > useless piece of junk".
>
> If you care to take that stance, I suggest you stop using inflammatory
> insults and stop behaving like a child - and answer the points I bring up.
I just have. All of your points are either untrue or irrelevant under any logical standard.
> Until then, I would rather you not say anything at all, right now you appear
> much like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum. You should get a grip if you
> wish to use the newsgroup, friend.
You should learn what you are talking about if you wish to post stuff like this.
JR
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(Although
> I
> > > >> admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
> > > >Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights
> dirty, I
> > > >wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
> > > >
> > > Well he has a chance if you assume adamantium can cut Superman.
> >
> > could win if he attacks from an ambush, something he is very good at...
>
> Don't discount Superman's higher molecular density plus his force field
like
> built in 'structural integrity field.'
> 'Sides, Supes is actually faster than the Flash (and) if the wimpy DC
> writers would be consistent could have Logan stripped, poked in the
behind,
> and sent to bed before old 'growl mouth' could yelp aloud.
Superman is nowhere even near the speed of the Flash. Obviously, you are
speaking out of your ass.
On Topic - R2D2 makes cool beeping noises.
JR
Kyle Version - "Me also bringing up dose points in past. Duh... me think it
gud that this newsplace also bringing up points, too. Dur."
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Aron Kerkhof
wrote:
>In article <8e303e$3vas$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>, "Chuck" <CS...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Eframepilot <jt...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
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>>> In article <8e2jo3$18a$1...@nntp.ixcis.com>, "JR" <jret...@hotmail.com*>
>>wrote:
>>> >Good fight here.
>>> >
>>> Holy cow, it's the guy who argues Wolverine can beat Superman! (Although I
>>> admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
>>Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights dirty, I
>>wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
>>
>Well he has a chance if you assume adamantium can cut Superman. Then if
>Superman accidentally impales himself, Wolverine might win. But it's about as
>likely as Batman being beat by, well, me(with no weapons or preparation).
Depends... are we talking Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or
Doug Ro.. I mean George Clooney flavors of batman?
Aron Kerkhof
neolith.org
Aron Kerkhof
wrote:
>> Holy cow, it's the guy who argues Wolverine can beat Superman! (Although I
>> >> admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
>> >Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights dirty, I
>> >wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
>> >
>> Well he has a chance if you assume adamantium can cut Superman.
>
>I'd assume it could, and give the two roughly equal senses, so Logan
>could win if he attacks from an ambush, something he is very good at...
However, remember his first battle against the Hulk? While Logan's
claws could in fact cut Hulk's skin, Logan lacked the physical
strength to acctually push them through Hulk's unnaturally tough and
thick hide. I'd think it would be the same for Supe's dense molecular
structure.
Aron Kerkhof
neolith.org
Aron Kerkhof
wrote:
>In article <3905239B...@erols.com>, Dalton <dalto...@erols.com> wrote:
>>PREDATOR wrote:
>>>
>>> JR wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> > > > C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
>>> > > > Data: Has an off switch
>>> >
>>> > Nothing to comment here? I guess we shall interpret your silence as, "Data
>>> > is inferior in these regards."
>>>
>>> Data's head can survive being trapped in a cave for hundreds of years.
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>
>>C-3PO can survive being blown apart.
>>
>What do you think happened to Data? And he was fine after his head sat under
>San Francisco (not the most stable part of the world) for 500 years! Data has
>also been impaled by a spear, buried, and repaired, and he is bulletproof.
He is clearly not bulletproof. Even arrows can penetrate his body
quite easily. However, his internal vitals appear to be either well
armored, or small and spaced out.
Aron Kerkhof
neolith.org
Lord Edam de Fromage
>He is clearly not bulletproof. Even arrows can penetrate his body
>quite easily. However, his internal vitals appear to be either well
>armored, or small and spaced out.
His internal vitals are a telephone. Hardly top of the range tech.
Weyoun the Dancing Borg
> Data: Has an off switch
so does C3P0!
And only 2 people know about Data's off switch: him and Dr Crusher.
Liea knowcked C3p) of in TESB when he was babbling about the odss of
surviving something.
so this point doesnt count.
Data is VASTLY superior to c3p0 in nrealy all respects.
Weyoun the Dancing Borg
>
> Duh! He wasn't a computer - of course he wasn't reprogrammed!
I really found that funny.
to JR:
<yawn>
you are very silly. C3p0 is a PROTOCAL droid who is deisgned as a
translator.
Data is a multi-purpose android caperble of defeating klingons, other
androids and borg in hand-to-hand combat.
He is stringer than c3p0 and has a much nicer personality.
Weyoun the Dancing Borg
but I''m gay, so dont be mean to me!
<ps, I didnt take offense, like some others would>
:-)
--
"The strength of a nation is not measured by it's ability to fight wars. It
is measured by it's ability to prevent them."
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John E. Heynemann <bl...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> JR <jret...@hotmail.com*> wrote in message
> news:8e2jo3$18a$1...@nntp.ixcis.com...
> > Good fight here.
> >
> > C3P0: Mastered something like 1 billion languages.
> > Data: Cannot even master english
> >
> > C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
> > Data: Has an off switch
> >
> > C3P0 is durable enough to endure desert planets with ease, boiling hot
oil
> > baths are welcomed, he's fast when he needs to be and polite. Data is
> shown
> > to be taken down with minor electicity shots that infect him with virus'
> and
> > force him to shutdown. Data is outfitted with mechanics that can take
> over
> > and control his actions. C3P0 has free will. Strength wise, C3P0 as a
> > droid is probably equal if not physically superior. Speed, same story.
> > Additionally, C3P0 can be mass produced - Data can't (nor could he say
the
> > word "can't").
> >
> > Winner: Easily, C3P0.
>
Weyoun the Dancing Borg
he went round the earth to spin it int hr opposite direction, and I
calculated that he went round fsater than light could. and he did. I did the
calcs agest ago, and I don't have them now, but if he can go FTL then surely
he is faster than "The Flash"?
--
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is measured by it's ability to prevent them."
Gene Roddenberry
JR <jret...@hotmail.com*> wrote in message
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>
> "John E. Heynemann" <bl...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:md9N4.984$nb6.5...@news.pacbell.net...
> >
> > Kyle <kyl...@freewwweb.com> wrote in message
> > news:3905089E...@freewwweb.com...
> > > > Holy cow, it's the guy who argues Wolverine can beat Superman!
> (Although
> > I
> > > > >> admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
> > > > >Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights
> > dirty, I
> > > > >wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
> > > > >
> > > > Well he has a chance if you assume adamantium can cut Superman.
> > >
> > > I'd assume it could, and give the two roughly equal senses, so Logan
> > > could win if he attacks from an ambush, something he is very good
at...
> >
Weyoun the Dancing Borg
simply said "Greetings".
--
"The strength of a nation is not measured by it's ability to fight wars. It
is measured by it's ability to prevent them."
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weyounthed...@hotmail.com
Aron Kerkhof <aronk@-spamerific-galactec.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:59:56 GMT, jt...@cornell.edu (Eframepilot)
> wrote:
>
> >In article <3905239B...@erols.com>, Dalton <dalto...@erols.com>
wrote:
> >>PREDATOR wrote:
> >>>
> >>> JR wrote:
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>> > > > C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
> >>> > > > Data: Has an off switch
> >>> >
> >>> > Nothing to comment here? I guess we shall interpret your silence
as, "Data
> >>> > is inferior in these regards."
> >>>
> >>> Data's head can survive being trapped in a cave for hundreds of years.
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>
> >>C-3PO can survive being blown apart.
> >>
> >What do you think happened to Data? And he was fine after his head sat
under
> >San Francisco (not the most stable part of the world) for 500 years! Data
has
> >also been impaled by a spear, buried, and repaired, and he is
bulletproof.
>
> He is clearly not bulletproof. Even arrows can penetrate his body
> quite easily. However, his internal vitals appear to be either well
> armored, or small and spaced out.
>
> Aron Kerkhof
> neolith.org
Kyle
>
> I'm am sorry, let me say it so that you can comprehend.
>
> Kyle Version - "Me also bringing up dose points in past. Duh... me think it
> gud that this newsplace also bringing up points, too. Dur."
Hey asshole. What the hell is your problem you little pussy whipped
faggot?
What I wanted to know was what the hell this line means:
"It is refreshing on this news group there is some reason."
That sentence makes absolutely no sense, did you mean to say:
It's refreshing to see some reason on this news group?"
So in conclusion, kiss my ass you little cocksucker, and chill out. I
try to fucking help you out and you act like a fucking prick, what are
you 9?
--
Kyle Knopf
JR
"Weyoun the Dancing Borg" <wey...@btinternet.com.DESPAM> wrote in message
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> well superman went faster than light in "Superman I"
>
> he went round the earth to spin it int hr opposite direction, and I
> calculated that he went round fsater than light could. and he did. I did
the
> calcs agest ago, and I don't have them now, but if he can go FTL then
surely
> he is faster than "The Flash"?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> "The strength of a nation is not measured by it's ability to fight wars.
It
> is measured by it's ability to prevent them."
>
> Gene Roddenberry
>
> weyounthed...@hotmail.com
JR
"Weyoun the Dancing Borg" <wey...@btinternet.com.DESPAM> wrote in message
> > C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
> > Data: Has an off switch
>
>
>
> And only 2 people know about Data's off switch: him and Dr Crusher.
And Riker, and Picard, and some Judge, and his creator (deceased), and his
evil twin, and anyone watching when Riker turned him off, etc, etc...
> Liea knowcked C3p) of in TESB when he was babbling about the odss of
> surviving something.
Perhaps - however, for a master psychologist, like C3P0, it is indeed
possible C3P0 *knew* his comrades were under a great deal of stress.
Stressful situations tend to hamper people performing tasks that require
fine hand-eye coordination. Han needed to be at his game 100% in order for
them to survive... his stress was only hurting his chances of all of them
surviving. As such, I propose C3P0 was gleefully playing the part of a
silly clown in order to lessen the levels of stress everyone, and especially
Han, were under.
So, *YOUR* point doesn't count, unless you can prove me wrong - of course.
JR
"Weyoun the Dancing Borg" <wey...@btinternet.com.DESPAM> wrote in message
> > > Picard was in the same room and was not even affected.
> >
> > Duh! He wasn't a computer - of course he wasn't reprogrammed!
>
>
Obviously, you know little of electricity. My point was that the electrical
charge that struck him was minor. Had it been anything more than minor,
Picard would have felt some heat or something - given he was in close
proximity to data. Humans actually are computers, anyhow.
Eframepilot
>Aron Kerkhof wrote in message ...
>
>>quite easily. However, his internal vitals appear to be either well
>>armored, or small and spaced out.
>
>
>
Eframepilot
>> C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
>> Data: Has an off switch
>
>
>so does C3P0!
>
>And only 2 people know about Data's off switch: him and Dr Crusher.
>
<snip>
Chuck
John E. Heynemann <bl...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> > > Holy cow, it's the guy who argues Wolverine can beat Superman!
(Although
> I
> > > admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
> > Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights dirty,
I
> > wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
> >
> Yeah, well, don't forget that Superman whupped the incredible Bulk's tushy
> in the memorable DC Vs. Marvel battle.
> Sides, what good are admantium claws against a man with 30 plus years of
> stored solar energy and heat vision to boot?
1) All those battles were a popularity contest, and I know a guy who voted a
hundred times.
2) The point is that Wolverine can hold his own against a character with
brute strength and impenetrable skin like Supes. I don't place a whole lot
of hope in his ability to win, but dismissing him like this is simply
uncalled for. I think that, next to the Hulk and the Silver Surfer, Logan's
got the best shot among the Marvel Superheroes to take him down. Certainly
more than Spider-man, which I still don't understand....
--
Chuck
"Are you willing to die for stupidity? You see, I am, if it'll teach you
something." -187
Chuck
Aron Kerkhof <aronk@-spamerific-galactec.com> wrote in message
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> >Well he has a chance if you assume adamantium can cut Superman. Then if
> >Superman accidentally impales himself, Wolverine might win. But it's
about as
> >likely as Batman being beat by, well, me(with no weapons or preparation).
>
> Depends... are we talking Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or
> Doug Ro.. I mean George Clooney flavors of batman?
Adam West's Batman? I'd bet that even Boyd could kick his ass.
pablo_sa...@my-deja.com
>
> C3P0: Mastered something like 1 billion languages.
> Data: Cannot even master english
Over 6 million, and can readily--
> C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
> Data: Has an off switch
>
> C3P0 is durable enough to endure desert planets with ease, boiling
hot oil
> baths are welcomed, he's fast when he needs to be and polite. Data
is shown
> to be taken down with minor electicity shots that infect him with
virus' and
> force him to shutdown. Data is outfitted with mechanics that can
take over
> and control his actions. C3P0 has free will. Strength wise, C3P0 as
a
> droid is probably equal if not physically superior. Speed, same
story.
> Additionally, C3P0 can be mass produced - Data can't (nor could he
say the
> word "can't").
Children of the Jedi made a reference to C3PO's strength, when he
picked up luke and carried him like a rag doll down the hall. I don't
know about the author's accuracy, though.
> Winner: Easily, C3P0.
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
John E. Heynemann
> speaking out of your ass.
>
> On Topic - R2D2 makes cool beeping noises.
>
buddy Superman have long ago revealed, Supes is actually faster than the
Flash.
Why do so many issues of Superman show him moving slower than molasses?
Just poor, inconsistent writing.
(Such as your tert reply to my correct statements.)
Dalton
> >>
> >> In article <3905239B...@erols.com>, Dalton
> <dalto...@erols.com> wrote:
> >> >PREDATOR wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> JR wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> <snip>
> >> >>
> >> >> > > > Data: Has an off switch
> >> >> >
> your silence as, "Data
> >> >> > is inferior in these regards."
> >> >>
> >> >> Data's head can survive being trapped in a cave for
> hundreds of years.
> >> >>
> >> >> <snip>
> >> >
> >> >C-3PO can survive being blown apart.
> >> >
> >> What do you think happened to Data?
> >
> >
> >> San Francisco (not the most stable part of the world) for 500
> years! Data has
> >> also been impaled by a spear, buried, and repaired, and he is
> bulletproof.
> >
> >But wasn't it like a fairly large cavern? Ah well, it doesn't
> matter.
> >They both have that capability.
> >
> >--
> >Dalton | AIM: RobPDalton | ICQ: 50342303
> >
> >How do you catch a unique rabbit?
> >Unique up on him, then blow it's cute little head off with a 12-
> gauge.
> >
> >Da ASVS Fanfic Archive:
> [http://members.xoom.com/Tiny11380/fanfics]
> >Da ASVS FUQ: [http://members.xoom.com/Tiny11380/fuq]
> >
> >
>
> It's clear that Data is better than C3PO...
>
> However, a more fair contest based on intended capabilities
> would be Data V. Guri... And it's clear Guri would be the winner
> there. Not to mention looking like a real human and having
> emotions as being additional advantages of Guri...
Ah yes, that is VERY true.
> Hell, I wouldn't mind being a human replica droid of equal > capabilities to Guri.. I'd probably have a lifespan of three thousand
> years or so, and nobody would ever tell the difference, and I could
> rip apart a squad of commandos with my bare hands.. Fun life.
>
> Marina O'Leary
OK, I'm standing over here now :)
--
Dalton | AIM: RobPDalton | ICQ: 50342303
A conclusion is the place where you get tired of thinking.
(Arthur Bloch)
Dalton
>
> Aron Kerkhof <aronk@-spamerific-galactec.com> wrote in message
> news:aMUFOUGzvtfrVD...@4ax.com...
> > >Well he has a chance if you assume adamantium can cut Superman. Then if
> > >Superman accidentally impales himself, Wolverine might win. But it's
> about as
> > >likely as Batman being beat by, well, me(with no weapons or preparation).
> >
> > Depends... are we talking Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or
> > Doug Ro.. I mean George Clooney flavors of batman?
> Adam West's Batman? I'd bet that even Boyd could kick his ass.
>
That's low.
--
Dalton | AIM: RobPDalton | ICQ: 50342303
"You know where it ends, though it usually depends on where you
start..."
--"What It's Like", Everlast
Atomik Chicken
> In article <8e303e$3vas$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>, "Chuck"
<CS...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> Well he has a chance if you assume adamantium can cut Superman. Then if
> Superman accidentally impales himself, Wolverine might win. But it's about
as
> likely as Batman being beat by, well, me(with no weapons or preparation).
You know, I have always wondered, would adamatium claws really be able to
cut through everything easily, or would cutting through certain materials
still require massive amounts of strength to do it? Even if the actuall
edge went through with little resistance, the sides of the blades would
still have to force the material apart some (it seems the blade would get
stuck), or am I just off in lala-land again?
Atomik Chicken
I
> > >> admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
> > >Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights
dirty, I
> > >wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
> > >
>
> could win if he attacks from an ambush, something he is very good at...
>
> Kyle Knopf
I don't think Wolvie's senses are as good as Supes, I mean Wolvie doesn't
have 'xray' or 'telescopic vision'.
I always imagined that Wolverines senses are slightly better than what you
would find on the best hunting dogs.
Atomik Chicken
<CS...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Eframepilot <jt...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
> >>> In article <8e2jo3$18a$1...@nntp.ixcis.com>, "JR" <jret...@hotmail.com*>
> >>wrote:
> >>> >Good fight here.
> >>> >
(Although I
> >>> admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
> >>Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights dirty,
I
> >>wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
> >>
> >Superman accidentally impales himself, Wolverine might win. But it's
about as
> >likely as Batman being beat by, well, me(with no weapons or preparation).
>
> Doug Ro.. I mean George Clooney flavors of batman?
>
> neolith.org
Hell, I could take all of them!
Atomik Chicken
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>
>
> John E. Heynemann <bl...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:599N4.983$nb6.5...@news.pacbell.net...
> (Although
> > I
> > > > admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
> > > Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights
dirty,
> I
> > > wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
> > >
tushy
> > in the memorable DC Vs. Marvel battle.
> > Sides, what good are admantium claws against a man with 30 plus years of
> > stored solar energy and heat vision to boot?
> 1) All those battles were a popularity contest, and I know a guy who voted
a
> hundred times.
> 2) The point is that Wolverine can hold his own against a character with
> brute strength and impenetrable skin like Supes. I don't place a whole
lot
> of hope in his ability to win, but dismissing him like this is simply
> uncalled for. I think that, next to the Hulk and the Silver Surfer,
Logan's
> got the best shot among the Marvel Superheroes to take him down.
Certainly
> more than Spider-man, which I still don't understand....
>
> Chuck
> "Are you willing to die for stupidity? You see, I am, if it'll teach you
> something." -187
>
Hmm, Dr. Strange might have a chance, maybe Cpt. Marvel, Warlock, definetly
Thor, and I know their might be some others, but can't think of 'em off the
top of my head.
Atomik Chicken
[snip]
>
> He is clearly not bulletproof. Even arrows can penetrate his body
> quite easily. However, his internal vitals appear to be either well
> armored, or small and spaced out.
>
> neolith.org
His outer layer is most likely softer material designed to imitate human
skin (except for the color, unless Data was meant to look like someone with
kidney failer : ] ), while the subdermal stuff was probably much tougher
(which would make some sense, as Data's frame would have to be very strong).
Chewy on the outside, tough in the center : )
Weyoun the Dancing Borg
but that doens tmean that C2P0 doesnt have one.
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is measured by it's ability to prevent them."
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Eframepilot <jt...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <8e483t$a8m$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, "Weyoun the Dancing
Borg" <wey...@btinternet.com.DESPAM> wrote:
> >> C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
> >> Data: Has an off switch
> >
> >
Eframepilot
tie to the "Speed Force" and can basically move as fast as he pleases. The
present Superman is much weaker than the one you may remember, thanks to the
allmighty force known as "Byrne" who brought him down to near-mortal levels
after the Crisis on Infinite Earths revamp of the DC Universe. Now he is
limited to well below the speed of light, can only stay in space a few hours
without air, cannot juggle planets or blow out stars, etc.
Aron Kerkhof
wrote:
>Chuck wrote:
>>
>> Aron Kerkhof <aronk@-spamerific-galactec.com> wrote in message
>> news:aMUFOUGzvtfrVD...@4ax.com...
>> > >Well he has a chance if you assume adamantium can cut Superman. Then if
>> > >Superman accidentally impales himself, Wolverine might win. But it's
>> about as
>> > >likely as Batman being beat by, well, me(with no weapons or preparation).
>> >
>> > Depends... are we talking Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or
>> > Doug Ro.. I mean George Clooney flavors of batman?
>> Adam West's Batman? I'd bet that even Boyd could kick his ass.
>>
>
>That's low.
No kidding Chuck. Give Adam SOME credit. :-P
Aron Kerkhof
neolith.org
Eframepilot
>Eframepilot <jt...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
>> In article <8e303e$3vas$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>, "Chuck"
><CS...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> Well he has a chance if you assume adamantium can cut Superman. Then if
>> Superman accidentally impales himself, Wolverine might win. But it's about
>as
>> likely as Batman being beat by, well, me(with no weapons or preparation).
>
>cut through everything easily, or would cutting through certain materials
>still require massive amounts of strength to do it? Even if the actuall
>edge went through with little resistance, the sides of the blades would
>still have to force the material apart some (it seems the blade would get
>stuck), or am I just off in lala-land again?
>
>
:P
Aron Kerkhof
<atomik...@excite.com> wrote:
>
>Aron Kerkhof <aronk@-spamerific-galactec.com> wrote in message
I just saw the Robin Hood Q episode last night, which is why it was
fresh in my mind. The arrow penetrated around six inches into data's
chest. Obviously it didn't hurt him. I was just pointing out that
he is not bullet proof.
Aron Kerkhof
neolith.org
JR
Dude, again - Superman is NOWHERE EVEN NEAR the speed of the Flash. I'm not
saying Superman is slow, he's not. He can be fast, very fast. But the
current Flash is faster, and for you to say anything othewise would mean you
are a moronic jackass who is talking out of his ass. I did not get the
impression you were a moronic jackass talking out of his ass initially,
however I guess I was wrong on that count.
"John E. Heynemann" <bl...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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Eframepilot
penetrated him. Maybe he got an upgrade. :P
Jonathan Boyd
CS...@prodigy.net wrote on 25/4/00 10:28 pm:
>
>
> Aron Kerkhof <aronk@-spamerific-galactec.com> wrote in message
> news:aMUFOUGzvtfrVD...@4ax.com...
>>> Well he has a chance if you assume adamantium can cut Superman. Then if
>>> Superman accidentally impales himself, Wolverine might win. But it's
> about as
>>> likely as Batman being beat by, well, me(with no weapons or preparation).
>>
>> Depends... are we talking Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or
>> Doug Ro.. I mean George Clooney flavors of batman?
> Adam West's Batman? I'd bet that even Boyd could kick his ass.
Oi! What's that supposed to mean? You wnat to take this outside, huh? Come
on, you and me Chucky baby, mano a mnao.
--
Jonathan
AIM: BoydClone | STvsSW website: http://www.jboyd.co.uk/index.html
Allen W. McDonnell
Dalton <dalto...@erols.com> wrote in message
> > >> > > > C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
> > >> > > > Data: Has an off switch
> > >> >
Well seems how noone else has bothered I will be the one to point out C3PO
has an on/off switch which we seen used in both TESB and we see it used in
TPM.
> > >> > Nothing to comment here? I guess we shall interpret your silence
as, "Data
> > >> > is inferior in these regards."
> > >>
> > >> Data's head can survive being trapped in a cave for hundreds of
years.
> > >>
> > >> <snip>
> > >
> > >C-3PO can survive being blown apart.
> > >
> > What do you think happened to Data?
>
> Shot? Don't quite remember that ep.
>
Star Trek: First Contact, Data and Picard are examining the Pheonix when
Lilly starts firing at them with a sub machine gun. Data says in effect I
can handle this and jumps down to the level where Lilly is standing in two
stages. Lilly puts about 10 rounds in his back as he falls and lands, then
Data turns around and she fires about 5 or 6 more into his front torso
before she runs out of bullet's. As Data approaches she feints dead away.
> > And he was fine after his head sat under
> > San Francisco (not the most stable part of the world) for 500 years!
Data has
> > also been impaled by a spear, buried, and repaired, and he is
bulletproof.
> > (Yeah it doesn't make sense. Don't whine to me.) :P
>
> But wasn't it like a fairly large cavern? Ah well, it doesn't matter.
> They both have that capability.
>
--
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Allen W. McDonnell
> >[snip]
> >>
> >> He is clearly not bulletproof. Even arrows can penetrate his body
> >> quite easily. However, his internal vitals appear to be either well
> >> armored, or small and spaced out.
> >>
> >> Aron Kerkhof
> >> neolith.org
> >
> >His outer layer is most likely softer material designed to imitate human
> >skin (except for the color, unless Data was meant to look like someone
with
> >kidney failer : ] ), while the subdermal stuff was probably much tougher
> >(which would make some sense, as Data's frame would have to be very
strong).
> >Chewy on the outside, tough in the center : )
>
> I just saw the Robin Hood Q episode last night, which is why it was
> fresh in my mind. The arrow penetrated around six inches into data's
> chest. Obviously it didn't hurt him. I was just pointing out that
> he is not bullet proof.
>
arrows and with a machine gun, neither caused even limited loss of function.
Phong Nguyen
>Commander Thelea wrote:
>>
>> In article <39052888...@erols.com>, Dalton
>> <dalto...@erols.com> wrote:
>> >Eframepilot wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In article <3905239B...@erols.com>, Dalton
>> <dalto...@erols.com> wrote:
>> Hell, I wouldn't mind being a human replica droid of equal
>> capabilities to Guri.. I'd probably have a lifespan of three thousand
>> years or so, and nobody would ever tell the difference, and I could
>> rip apart a squad of commandos with my bare hands.. Fun life.
>>
>> Marina O'Leary
>
>OK, I'm standing over here now :)
>
Ack...Methinks I'm joining you...though the MoD Mk. II might come in
handy :)
Chuck
Jonathan Boyd <jona...@jboyd.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > Adam West's Batman? I'd bet that even Boyd could kick his ass.
>
> Oi! What's that supposed to mean? You wnat to take this outside, huh? Come
> on, you and me Chucky baby, mano a mnao.
Sorry Boyd, but you look like a pretty small guy. Not that you're a wimp,
'cause I really think you could beat up Adam West.
As for taking it outside, well, we could do that but it wouldn't prove much.
If I won it would only show that I'm a bully for beating up on people
smaller than me. I you won it'd only prove I have a big mouth. Since both
are canon facts the result would be pointless. But feel free to stop buy
this weekend if you like; after the fight you can help me mow the lawn.
Weyoun the Dancing Borg
--
"The strength of a nation is not measured by it's ability to fight wars. It
is measured by it's ability to prevent them."
Gene Roddenberry
weyounthed...@hotmail.com
JR <jret...@hotmail.com*> wrote in message
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>
> "Weyoun the Dancing Borg" <wey...@btinternet.com.DESPAM> wrote in message
> news:8e48fr$7us$1...@uranium.btinternet.com...
> > > > Picard was in the same room and was not even affected.
> > >
> > > Duh! He wasn't a computer - of course he wasn't reprogrammed!
> >
> >
> > I really found that funny.
>
> Obviously, you know little of electricity. My point was that the
electrical
> charge that struck him was minor. Had it been anything more than minor,
> Picard would have felt some heat or something - given he was in close
> proximity to data. Humans actually are computers, anyhow.
>
> > to JR:
> >
> > <yawn>
> > you are very silly. C3p0 is a PROTOCAL droid who is deisgned as a
> > translator.
> >
> > Data is a multi-purpose android caperble of defeating klingons, other
> > androids and borg in hand-to-hand combat.
> >
> > He is stringer than c3p0 and has a much nicer personality.
> >
> >
>
>
Weyoun the Dancing Borg
and it was a bit of a joke really.
--
"The strength of a nation is not measured by it's ability to fight wars. It
is measured by it's ability to prevent them."
Gene Roddenberry
weyounthed...@hotmail.com
JR <jret...@hotmail.com*> wrote in message
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> Dude, ok... listen: Superman movies don't dicate the Superman character.
>
> "Weyoun the Dancing Borg" <wey...@btinternet.com.DESPAM> wrote in message
> news:8e4jkb$n3v$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com...
> > well superman went faster than light in "Superman I"
> >
> > he went round the earth to spin it int hr opposite direction, and I
> > calculated that he went round fsater than light could. and he did. I did
> the
> > calcs agest ago, and I don't have them now, but if he can go FTL then
> surely
> > he is faster than "The Flash"?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "The strength of a nation is not measured by it's ability to fight wars.
> It
> > is measured by it's ability to prevent them."
> >
> > Gene Roddenberry
> >
> > weyounthed...@hotmail.com
> > JR <jret...@hotmail.com*> wrote in message
> > news:8e4bj7$ljc$1...@nntp.ixcis.com...
> > >
> > > "John E. Heynemann" <bl...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > > news:md9N4.984$nb6.5...@news.pacbell.net...
> > > >
> > > > Kyle <kyl...@freewwweb.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3905089E...@freewwweb.com...
> > > > > > Holy cow, it's the guy who argues Wolverine can beat Superman!
> > > (Although
> > > > I
> > > > > > >> admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
> > > > > > >Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND
fights
> > > > dirty, I
> > > > > > >wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Well he has a chance if you assume adamantium can cut Superman.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd assume it could, and give the two roughly equal senses, so
Logan
> > > > > could win if he attacks from an ambush, something he is very good
> > at...
> > > >
> > > > Don't discount Superman's higher molecular density plus his force
> field
> > > like
> > > > built in 'structural integrity field.'
> > > > 'Sides, Supes is actually faster than the Flash (and) if the wimpy
DC
> > > > writers would be consistent could have Logan stripped, poked in the
> > > behind,
> > > > and sent to bed before old 'growl mouth' could yelp aloud.
pablo_sa...@my-deja.com
"Chuck" <CS...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>
> Jonathan Boyd <jona...@jboyd.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:B52C8D06.C7C4%jona...@jboyd.co.uk...
> > > Adam West's Batman? I'd bet that even Boyd could kick his ass.
> >
> > Oi! What's that supposed to mean? You wnat to take this outside,
huh? Come
> > on, you and me Chucky baby, mano a mnao.
> Sorry Boyd, but you look like a pretty small guy. Not that you're a
wimp,
> 'cause I really think you could beat up Adam West.
> As for taking it outside, well, we could do that but it wouldn't
prove much.
> If I won it would only show that I'm a bully for beating up on people
> smaller than me. I you won it'd only prove I have a big mouth.
Since both
> are canon facts the result would be pointless. But feel free to stop
buy
> this weekend if you like; after the fight you can help me mow the
lawn.
The blood will stunt the grass growth.
> --
> Chuck
> "Are you willing to die for stupidity? You see, I am, if it'll teach
you
> something." -187
>
>
Leonard Sidiski
Why are we even having this conversation?
The Flash is can run so fast he travels through time. The Flash is not only
faster than light, but enough faster to catch up to the image of where he
jsut was and race himself (Flash 1000000).
The Flash is fast enough not only to outrace Death himself, but the special
speed-powered death-of-flashes.
In other words, he's really really fast. Superman has never been shownt
capable of pulling off speed-related feats nearly this impressive.
And Superman is fast.
Jonathan Boyd
on 26/4/00 4:40 am:
>>> Depends... are we talking Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or
>>> Doug Ro.. I mean George Clooney flavors of batman?
>> Adam West's Batman? I'd bet that even Boyd could kick his ass.
> That's low.
Just you wait Dalton. Next time you get your car repaired, you might want to
put a metal plate under the seat.
Jonathan Boyd
aronk@-spamerific-galactec.com wrote on 26/4/00 3:27 pm:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:03:27 -0600, "Atomik Chicken"
> <atomik...@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Aron Kerkhof <aronk@-spamerific-galactec.com> wrote in message
>> news:qMYFOdx3das3kD...@4ax.com...
>> [snip]
>>>
>>> He is clearly not bulletproof. Even arrows can penetrate his body
>>> quite easily. However, his internal vitals appear to be either well
>>> armored, or small and spaced out.
>>>
>>> Aron Kerkhof
>>> neolith.org
>>
>> His outer layer is most likely softer material designed to imitate human
>> skin (except for the color, unless Data was meant to look like someone with
>> kidney failer : ] ), while the subdermal stuff was probably much tougher
>> (which would make some sense, as Data's frame would have to be very strong).
>> Chewy on the outside, tough in the center : )
>
> I just saw the Robin Hood Q episode last night, which is why it was
> fresh in my mind. The arrow penetrated around six inches into data's
> chest. Obviously it didn't hurt him. I was just pointing out that
> he is not bullet proof.
But this was Q's game and he probably wanted it fairly realistic. I don't
think we can rarely draw any conclusions from that ep, especially given that
Data _is_ bullet proof in ST:FC
Eric
Well, his skin certainly is a different hue in ST:FC...perhaps he did
get an upgrade. :)
Eric
remove NO.SPAM.DAMMIT to mail
"Sufficiently advanced technology is often indistinguishable
from magic." - Clarke's Third Law
Dalton
I don't think it's going to work on her, Phong.
--
Dalton | AIM: RobPDalton | ICQ: 50342303
"Designer Clothes are for fags." --Morgan Carlson
Dalton
>
> Dalton <dalto...@erols.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >> > > > C3P0: Can easily survive being taken apart
> > > >> > > > Data: Has an off switch
> > > >> >
>
> Well seems how noone else has bothered I will be the one to point out C3PO
> has an on/off switch which we seen used in both TESB and we see it used in
> TPM.
>
> > > >> > Nothing to comment here? I guess we shall interpret your silence
> as, "Data
> > > >> > is inferior in these regards."
> > > >>
> > > >> Data's head can survive being trapped in a cave for hundreds of
> years.
> > > >>
> > > >> <snip>
> > > >
> > > >C-3PO can survive being blown apart.
> > > >
> > > What do you think happened to Data?
> >
> > Shot? Don't quite remember that ep.
> >
>
> Star Trek: First Contact, Data and Picard are examining the Pheonix when
> Lilly starts firing at them with a sub machine gun. Data says in effect I
> can handle this and jumps down to the level where Lilly is standing in two
> stages. Lilly puts about 10 rounds in his back as he falls and lands, then
> Data turns around and she fires about 5 or 6 more into his front torso
> before she runs out of bullet's. As Data approaches she feints dead away.
Is this canon contradicting canon?
--
Dalton | AIM: RobPDalton | ICQ: 50342303
"Is it just me or is that man getting dumber by the second?"
---C.S.Strowbridge to Graeme Dice, regarding Anton Polinger
Eframepilot
<snip>
>> Star Trek: First Contact, Data and Picard are examining the Pheonix when
>> Lilly starts firing at them with a sub machine gun. Data says in effect I
>> can handle this and jumps down to the level where Lilly is standing in two
>> stages. Lilly puts about 10 rounds in his back as he falls and lands, then
>> Data turns around and she fires about 5 or 6 more into his front torso
>> before she runs out of bullet's. As Data approaches she feints dead away.
>
>Is this canon contradicting canon?
>
Sort of. Exept Data could've gotten Kevlar skin in the meantime.
Dalton
>
> in article 39066510...@erols.com, Dalton at dalto...@erols.com wrote
> on 26/4/00 4:40 am:
> >>> Depends... are we talking Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or
> >>> Doug Ro.. I mean George Clooney flavors of batman?
>
> >> Adam West's Batman? I'd bet that even Boyd could kick his ass.
>
> > That's low.
>
> Just you wait Dalton. Next time you get your car repaired, you might want to
> put a metal plate under the seat.
Next time I have to get my car repaired, I'm getting a new one :)
--
Dalton | AIM: RobPDalton | ICQ: 50342303
"It was a boring conversation anyway."
--Han Solo, "Star Wars: A New Hope"
Jonathan Boyd
CS...@prodigy.net wrote on 27/4/00 1:15 am:
>
>
> Jonathan Boyd <jona...@jboyd.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:B52C8D06.C7C4%jona...@jboyd.co.uk...
>>> Adam West's Batman? I'd bet that even Boyd could kick his ass.
>>
>> Oi! What's that supposed to mean? You wnat to take this outside, huh? Come
>> on, you and me Chucky baby, mano a mnao.
> Sorry Boyd, but you look like a pretty small guy. Not that you're a wimp,
> 'cause I really think you could beat up Adam West.
Well I am fairly small., but size isn't everything. One of the smallest guys
in my year is built like a tank. Virtually unstoppable in rugby I'm told.
> As for taking it outside, well, we could do that but it wouldn't prove much.
> If I won it would only show that I'm a bully for beating up on people
> smaller than me. I you won it'd only prove I have a big mouth.
Exactly. I can't lose.
> Since both are canon facts the result would be pointless. But feel free to
> stop buy this weekend if you like; after the fight you can help me mow the
> lawn.
Don't mention mowing lawns to me. Our garden is the Amazon of north-west
Europe. The grass is mad, the trees talk, the mushrooms emit yellow fumes
and no I'm not on LSD.
Allen W. McDonnell
> > > >C-3PO can survive being blown apart.
> > > > >
> > > > What do you think happened to Data?
> > >
> > > Shot? Don't quite remember that ep.
> > >
> >
> > Lilly starts firing at them with a sub machine gun. Data says in effect
I
> > can handle this and jumps down to the level where Lilly is standing in
two
> > stages. Lilly puts about 10 rounds in his back as he falls and lands,
then
> > Data turns around and she fires about 5 or 6 more into his front torso
> > before she runs out of bullet's. As Data approaches she feints dead
away.
>
> Is this canon contradicting canon?
>
What is contradictory here?
Jonathan Boyd
on 27/4/00 9:08 am:
>> Star Trek: First Contact, Data and Picard are examining the Pheonix when
>> Lilly starts firing at them with a sub machine gun. Data says in effect I
>> can handle this and jumps down to the level where Lilly is standing in two
>> stages. Lilly puts about 10 rounds in his back as he falls and lands, then
>> Data turns around and she fires about 5 or 6 more into his front torso
>> before she runs out of bullet's. As Data approaches she feints dead away.
>
> Is this canon contradicting canon?
Well let's try and rationalise it first - The bullets were shot at Data in a
real situation and had no effect. The arrow however was part of a situation
created by Q which throws it a bit into doubt. I would explain it by saying
Q was trying to have a bit of fun.
JR
"Allen W. McDonnell" <tan...@provide.net> wrote in message
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>
> Dalton <dalto...@erols.com> wrote in message
> <snip>
> > > > >C-3PO can survive being blown apart.
> > > > > >
> > > > > What do you think happened to Data?
> > > >
> > > > Shot? Don't quite remember that ep.
> > > >
> > >
when
> > > Lilly starts firing at them with a sub machine gun. Data says in
effect
> I
> > > can handle this and jumps down to the level where Lilly is standing in
> two
> > > stages. Lilly puts about 10 rounds in his back as he falls and lands,
> then
> > > Data turns around and she fires about 5 or 6 more into his front torso
> > > before she runs out of bullet's. As Data approaches she feints dead
> away.
> >
> > Is this canon contradicting canon?
> >
>
> What is contradictory here?
Nothing you've done, as far as I can tell. One episode shows him being
impaled with an arrow and the movie shows bullets basically bouncing off of
him. Which one is right?
(Does it matter? Either way he wasn't effected. Still no match for C3P0,
however. I suspect neither bullets nor arrows would penetrate his armored
shell)
Allen W. McDonnell
richochets seen or heard, but no internal damage eaither. Rather like the
effect of wearing a Kevlar vest, the bullet deforms and gets trapped in the
Kevlar fibers, but the impact energy is still transmitted to the wearer,
leaving a bad bruiise or even a breoken bone or two.
Commander Thelea
>I don't think it's going to work on her, Phong.
Me as a Human Replica Droid.. ::smirks:: No, I don't think it
would. Admittedly, Luke Skywalker defeated the prototype in
battle, Guri, but she was unarmed and he had a lightsabre and
blaster.. And she survived, even though she was beaten. And,
look what Jedi can do to normal droids. No... I do not think it
would be wise to fight me. Then again, we are on the same side.
I could be useful in busting Sheppard out of prison.. Or
helping with the escape, that is. There would be a pursuit...
Any help you need.
Marina O'Leary
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Weyoun the Dancing Borg
STFC I don't know.
but I do know Lilloy fired a full round of ammo into him and he was
unharmed.
Think of it like the Go'auld personal shield: it will stop bullets and
energy weapons but not low KE objects: arrows, spears etc.
maybe Data's armour is like that in some way?
--
"The strength of a nation is not measured by it's ability to fight wars. It
is measured by it's ability to prevent them."
Gene Roddenberry
Aron Kerkhof <aronk@-spamerific-galactec.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:03:27 -0600, "Atomik Chicken"
> <atomik...@excite.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Aron Kerkhof <aronk@-spamerific-galactec.com> wrote in message
> >news:qMYFOdx3das3kD...@4ax.com...
> >[snip]
> >>
> >> He is clearly not bulletproof. Even arrows can penetrate his body
> >> quite easily. However, his internal vitals appear to be either well
> >> armored, or small and spaced out.
> >>
> >> Aron Kerkhof
> >> neolith.org
> >
> >His outer layer is most likely softer material designed to imitate human
> >skin (except for the color, unless Data was meant to look like someone
with
> >kidney failer : ] ), while the subdermal stuff was probably much tougher
> >(which would make some sense, as Data's frame would have to be very
strong).
> >Chewy on the outside, tough in the center : )
>
> I just saw the Robin Hood Q episode last night, which is why it was
> fresh in my mind. The arrow penetrated around six inches into data's
> chest. Obviously it didn't hurt him. I was just pointing out that
> he is not bullet proof.
>
> Aron Kerkhof
> neolith.org
Kynes
> Well I am fairly small., but size isn't everything. One of the smallest guys
> in my year is built like a tank. Virtually unstoppable in rugby I'm told.
"Or so I'm told. Of course, the sun makes me break-out in terrible hives, and
this only compounds my troubles with the ladies! As such, I haven't been to
any-such 'rugby' games in many a day. Speaking of which, I do believe I'm due to
baby-sit the younger brother of a girl I fancy while she attends a movie with some
other fellow. Ta ta, gents!"
--
-LK!
[ ky...@choam.org ] [ ICQ: 795238 ] [ AIM: Kynes23 ]
"Discussions which lack moral or normative assessments are rarely interesting."
- Emily Cuatto
Matthew Hyde
Kynes <ky...@choam.org> wrote:
> "Jonathan Boyd" <jona...@jboyd.co.uk> wrote in message news:B52D5890.C96A%jona...@jboyd.co.uk...
> > Well I am fairly small., but size isn't everything. One of the smallest guys
> > in my year is built like a tank. Virtually unstoppable in rugby I'm told.
> "Or so I'm told. Of course, the sun makes me break-out in terrible hives, and
> this only compounds my troubles with the ladies! As such, I haven't been to
> any-such 'rugby' games in many a day. Speaking of which, I do believe I'm due to
> baby-sit the younger brother of a girl I fancy while she attends a movie with some
> other fellow. Ta ta, gents!"
> --
> -LK!
> [ ky...@choam.org ] [ ICQ: 795238 ] [ AIM: Kynes23 ]
Ew, a cat fight
--
Matt Hyde
Math Lab Consultant
All persons, living and dead,
Are coincidental,
And should not be construed.
(Kurt Vonnegut)
Matthew Hyde
> Chuck <CS...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> news:8e511t$3al4$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com...> > news:599N4.983$nb6.5...@news.pacbell.net...
> > > > > Holy cow, it's the guy who argues Wolverine can beat Superman!
> > (Although
> > > I
> > > > > admit Logan stands a better chance than C-3P0).
> > > > Hey, he's gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk more than once AND fights
> dirty,
> > I
> > > > wouldn't dismiss ol' canucklehead just yet.
> > > >
> tushy
> > > in the memorable DC Vs. Marvel battle.
> > > Sides, what good are admantium claws against a man with 30 plus years of
> > > stored solar energy and heat vision to boot?
> > 1) All those battles were a popularity contest, and I know a guy who voted
> a
> > hundred times.
> > 2) The point is that Wolverine can hold his own against a character with
> > brute strength and impenetrable skin like Supes. I don't place a whole
> lot
> > of hope in his ability to win, but dismissing him like this is simply
> > uncalled for. I think that, next to the Hulk and the Silver Surfer,
> Logan's
> > got the best shot among the Marvel Superheroes to take him down.
> Certainly
> > more than Spider-man, which I still don't understand....
> >
> > --
> > Chuck
> > "Are you willing to die for stupidity? You see, I am, if it'll teach you
> > something." -187
> >
> Hmm, Dr. Strange might have a chance, maybe Cpt. Marvel, Warlock, definetly
> Thor, and I know their might be some others, but can't think of 'em off the
> top of my head.
Dr. Strange could just send him to Hell, and that's canon.
Matthew Hyde
Jonathan Boyd <jona...@jboyd.co.uk> wrote:
> in article 39066510...@erols.com, Dalton at dalto...@erols.com wrote
> on 26/4/00 4:40 am:
> >>> Depends... are we talking Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or
> >>> Doug Ro.. I mean George Clooney flavors of batman?
> >> Adam West's Batman? I'd bet that even Boyd could kick his ass.
> > That's low.
> Just you wait Dalton. Next time you get your car repaired, you might want to
> put a metal plate under the seat.
> --
would you like some powdered aluminum with your ammonium nitrate? Nails,
bullets, or phosphorous chips?
check, please!
Jonathan Boyd
wrote on 28/4/00 3:02 am:
>
> Jonathan Boyd <jona...@jboyd.co.uk> wrote:
>> in article 39066510...@erols.com, Dalton at dalto...@erols.com wrote
>> on 26/4/00 4:40 am:
>>>>> Depends... are we talking Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or
>>>>> Doug Ro.. I mean George Clooney flavors of batman?
>
>>>> Adam West's Batman? I'd bet that even Boyd could kick his ass.
>
>>> That's low.
>
>> Just you wait Dalton. Next time you get your car repaired, you might want to
>> put a metal plate under the seat.
>> --
>
> would you like some powdered aluminum with your ammonium nitrate? Nails,
> bullets, or phosphorous chips?
>
> check, please!
Actually a big lump of sodium and a bucket of water should do quite nicely.
Jonathan Boyd
ky...@choam.org wrote on 28/4/00 1:22 am:
> "Jonathan Boyd" <jona...@jboyd.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:B52D5890.C96A%jona...@jboyd.co.uk...
>
>> Well I am fairly small., but size isn't everything. One of the smallest guys
>> in my year is built like a tank. Virtually unstoppable in rugby I'm told.
>
> "Or so I'm told. Of course, the sun makes me break-out in terrible hives, and
Actually I quite enjoy outdoors activities, particularly canoeing and
mountaineering. In fact in about 2 months time I'll be doing my Duke of
Edinburgh's Gold Award expedition, having already completed bronze and
silver.
> this only compounds my troubles with the ladies! As such, I haven't been to
> any-such 'rugby' games in many a day.
As a matter of fact I don't go to rugby games at all. Haven't the slightest
interest in the sport. Did the compulsory 8 weeks in 1st form, then switched
to hockey. Switched to cross country running as soon as I got the chance.
> Speaking of which, I do believe I'm due to baby-sit the younger brother of a
> girl I fancy while she attends a movie with some other fellow. Ta ta, gents!"
Actually the only times I ever baby-sit are for my own family when I
occasionally have to look after my younger siblings for a couple of hours.
Jonathan Boyd
Lusankya...@Aol.com.invalid wrote on 28/4/00 6:43 am:
>
>> I don't think it's going to work on her, Phong.
>
> Me as a Human Replica Droid.. ::smirks:: No, I don't think it
> would. Admittedly, Luke Skywalker defeated the prototype in
> battle, Guri, but she was unarmed and he had a lightsabre and
> blaster.. And she survived, even though she was beaten. And,
> look what Jedi can do to normal droids. No... I do not think it
> would be wise to fight me. Then again, we are on the same side.
Actually, Luke discarded his lightsabre and blaster to fight Guri.
Commander Thelea
That was a bit arrogant of him, as things turned out.. From
what I understand, the fight was close.
I've never actually read Shadows of the Empire, though it's
currently book number two on my "to buy" list.
And I'd still wouldn't mind being a human replica droid..
I think they're fully sentient AND have souls based on my own
life philisophy. I think that the soul is formed with sentience,
and hence anything sentient (Guri certainly qualifies) would
also have a soul.. Meaning I have no moral objections to being
an HRD... And it would be so much fun. <eg>
Aron Kerkhof
<Lusankya...@Aol.com.invalid> wrote:
> I think they're fully sentient AND have souls based on my own
>life philisophy. I think that the soul is formed with sentience,
>and hence anything sentient (Guri certainly qualifies) would
>also have a soul.. Meaning I have no moral objections to being
>an HRD... And it would be so much fun. <eg>
Except when Xizor orders you into his hot tub to prove you are fully
capable of performing the functions of a human female. *shudder*
Aron Kerkhof
neolith.org
Matthew Hyde
Jonathan Boyd <jona...@jboyd.co.uk> wrote:
> in article 8eargf$cec$4...@campus3.mtu.edu, Matthew Hyde at mdo...@mtu.edu
> wrote on 28/4/00 3:02 am:
> >
> > Jonathan Boyd <jona...@jboyd.co.uk> wrote:
> >> in article 39066510...@erols.com, Dalton at dalto...@erols.com wrote
> >> on 26/4/00 4:40 am:
> >>>>> Depends... are we talking Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or
> >>>>> Doug Ro.. I mean George Clooney flavors of batman?
> >
> >>>> Adam West's Batman? I'd bet that even Boyd could kick his ass.
> >
> >>> That's low.
> >
> >> Just you wait Dalton. Next time you get your car repaired, you might want to
> >> put a metal plate under the seat.
> >> --
> >
> > would you like some powdered aluminum with your ammonium nitrate? Nails,
> > bullets, or phosphorous chips?
> >
> > check, please!
> Actually a big lump of sodium and a bucket of water should do quite nicely.
At the cost of control, I guess so.
Ummmmm... Did I do *thaaaat*?
Commander Thelea
I didn't say I wanted to be Guri herself, thank you.. She was
far to loyal to that.. Reptile, anyway. Instilled in her
personality, but, alas.. With any luck she got away from the
Skyhook and is living a moderately normal life somewhere in the
galaxy with nobody realizing who she is.
Chuck
Matthew Hyde <mdo...@mtu.edu> wrote in message
news:8eariv$cec$5...@campus3.mtu.edu...
> Dr. Strange could just send him to Hell, and that's canon.
Superman's Hell: He's chained up in kryptonite(sp?) and people walk around
in front of him wearing white after Labor Day.
Rob Dalton
Commander Thelea <Lusankya...@Aol.com.invalid> wrote:
[snip]
>>Except when Xizor orders you into his hot tub to prove you are
>>fully capable of performing the functions of a human female.
>>*shudder*
>>
>>Aron Kerkhof
>>neolith.org
>>
>>
>
> I didn't say I wanted to be Guri herself, thank you.. She was
>far to loyal to that.. Reptile, anyway. Instilled in her
>personality, but, alas.. With any luck she got away from the
>Skyhook and is living a moderately normal life somewhere in the
>galaxy with nobody realizing who she is.
>
I don't think she was on the Skyhook. As far as I can remember,
she was in Xizor's palace fighting Luke just before...well, you
should read the book. But I think she got away. I remember
reading that one of the hang gliders placed at the dock for
emergencies was missing after Luke looked back.
Dalton
Rob Dalton
>>
>> Is this canon contradicting canon?
>>
>sOMeone asked when Data was shot, all I did was give the scene.
>
>What is contradictory here?
Well, in FC he's bulletproof, but someone else said that in
an episode Data was shot or something and sorta fell apart.
Commander Thelea
Dalton <daltonato...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>In article <0f309180...@usw-ex0101-007.remarq.com>,
>Commander Thelea <Lusankya...@Aol.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>>Except when Xizor orders you into his hot tub to prove you are
>>>fully capable of performing the functions of a human female.
>>>*shudder*
>>>
>>>Aron Kerkhof
>>>neolith.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I didn't say I wanted to be Guri herself, thank you.. She was
>>far to loyal to that.. Reptile, anyway. Instilled in her
>>personality, but, alas.. With any luck she got away from the
>>Skyhook and is living a moderately normal life somewhere in the
>>galaxy with nobody realizing who she is.
>>
>
>I don't think she was on the Skyhook. As far as I can remember,
>she was in Xizor's palace fighting Luke just before...well, you
>should read the book. But I think she got away. I remember
>reading that one of the hang gliders placed at the dock for
>emergencies was missing after Luke looked back.
>
>
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Hmm.. This gives me an idea...
Marina O'Leary
"Ut Veniant Omnes!"
Commander Thelea
(Cyborg Stan of CyKoLaJx, Inc.) wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:51:40 -0700, Commander Thelea
><Lusankya...@Aol.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>> I didn't say I wanted to be Guri herself, thank you.. She was
>>far to loyal to that.. Reptile, anyway. Instilled in her
>>personality, but, alas.. With any luck she got away from the
>>Skyhook and is living a moderately normal life somewhere in the
>>galaxy with nobody realizing who she is.
>
elite
>assasian droid?"
>
>I bet this happens alot more often then you think.
>
>
Well... I don't think she was THAT fully functional (Though
apparently the Android Naomi Armitage in that Anime movie was.),
however...
That was a very amusing thought.
Couldn't you see that on Jerry Springer?
"And today on Jerry... Multi-billion dollar elite assasin droid
mothers tell their daughters what they are!"
Phong Nguyen
<Lusankya...@Aol.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I don't think it's going to work on her, Phong.
>
> Me as a Human Replica Droid.. ::smirks:: No, I don't think it
>would. Admittedly, Luke Skywalker defeated the prototype in
>battle, Guri, but she was unarmed and he had a lightsabre and
>blaster.. And she survived, even though she was beaten. And,
>look what Jedi can do to normal droids. No... I do not think it
>would be wise to fight me. Then again, we are on the same side.
>
I dunno, that's a hell of a lot of KE slammed into a target. And who
knows, it'd be an interesting fight :)
Eframepilot
>[snip]
>
>>>
>>> Is this canon contradicting canon?
>>>
>>sOMeone asked when Data was shot, all I did was give the scene.
>>
>>What is contradictory here?
>
>Well, in FC he's bulletproof, but someone else said that in
>an episode Data was shot or something and sorta fell apart.
>
>Dalton
overloading time-warping ophicuan snake-thingie. His body and the snake staff
returned to the future, but his head stayed in the past. He suffered no
lasting effects, though.
Cyborg Stan of CyKoLaJx, Inc.
Dalton
>
> In article <3907F56F...@erols.com>, Dalton <dalto...@erols.com> wrote:
> <snip>
>
> >> Star Trek: First Contact, Data and Picard are examining the Pheonix when
> >> Lilly starts firing at them with a sub machine gun. Data says in effect I
> >> can handle this and jumps down to the level where Lilly is standing in two
> >> stages. Lilly puts about 10 rounds in his back as he falls and lands, then
> >> Data turns around and she fires about 5 or 6 more into his front torso
> >> before she runs out of bullet's. As Data approaches she feints dead away.
> >
> >
I'm confusing myself pretty well here.
--
Dalton | AIM: RobPDalton | ICQ: 50342303
"I...wanna publish zines, and rage against the machine;
I wanna pierce my tongue, it doesn't hurt it feels fine..."
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Dalton
>
> in article 3907F56F...@erols.com, Dalton at dalto...@erols.com wrote
> on 27/4/00 9:08 am:
>
> >> Star Trek: First Contact, Data and Picard are examining the Pheonix when
> >> Lilly starts firing at them with a sub machine gun. Data says in effect I
> >> can handle this and jumps down to the level where Lilly is standing in two
> >> stages. Lilly puts about 10 rounds in his back as he falls and lands, then
> >> Data turns around and she fires about 5 or 6 more into his front torso
> >> before she runs out of bullet's. As Data approaches she feints dead away.
> >
> > Is this canon contradicting canon?
>
> real situation and had no effect. The arrow however was part of a situation
> created by Q which throws it a bit into doubt. I would explain it by saying
> Q was trying to have a bit of fun.
I was trying to rationalize with something else, but am now thoroughly
confounded.
--
Dalton | AIM: RobPDalton | ICQ: 50342303
"Welcome to the jungle, baby! You're gonna die!"
--"Welcome to the Jungle", Guns N' Roses
Dalton
>
> In article <35ca1c71...@usw-ex0105-037.remarq.com>, Rob Dalton <daltonato...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >[snip]
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>What is contradictory here?
> >
> >Well, in FC he's bulletproof, but someone else said that in
> >an episode Data was shot or something and sorta fell apart.
> >
> >Dalton
> Sorry, that was me. It was in "Time's Arrow," and he was torn in two by an
> overloading time-warping ophicuan snake-thingie. His body and the snake staff
> returned to the future, but his head stayed in the past. He suffered no
> lasting effects, though.
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
--
Dalton | AIM: RobPDalton | ICQ: 50342303
Why doesn't the world die?
Dalton
[snip]
> Hmm.. This gives me an idea...
Oooo, fanfic!!
Matthew Hyde
Chuck <CS...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> Matthew Hyde <mdo...@mtu.edu> wrote in message
> news:8eariv$cec$5...@campus3.mtu.edu...
> > Dr. Strange could just send him to Hell, and that's canon.
> Superman's Hell: He's chained up in kryptonite(sp?) and people walk around
> in front of him wearing white after Labor Day.
I thought it would be Jimmy Olson making out with Lois Lane
continuously. Or maybe... Jimmy Olson making out with Perry White...