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dh

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Jan 7, 2008, 11:39:17 AM1/7/08
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Hi,

I have gotten into what has become an insane disagreement with someone
I work with over whether or not using "pink"--actually magenta--gel in the
downstage wash makes people on stage look "gay". To me that thought
is never even going to enter most people's minds, and those whose mind
it does enter have a bit of a problem and are in the vast minority.

Experience I've had using different type gels has taught me to like hot
magentas for warm washes instead of true reds, because reds are too
harsh and therefore pretty much for special effect rather than a good
standard warm wash color. I'm interested in any ideas on this, and any
links to other places where it has been discussed.

Thanks,
David

Christopher Jahn

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Jan 7, 2008, 1:17:11 PM1/7/08
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dh@. wrote in news:pqk4o3pbm09v53h5r...@4ax.com:

> I have gotten into what has become an insane disagreement with
> someone I work with over whether or not using "pink"--actually
> magenta--gel in the downstage wash makes people on stage look
> "gay".

No, getting up onstage does that.

;-D

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}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/

"To be, or not to be."--Hamlet "Do-bee-do-bee-do."--Sinatra

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Christopher Jahn

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Jan 8, 2008, 1:34:46 AM1/8/08
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"Smoking Causes Lung Cancer (SCLC)" <SC...@nospam.invalid> wrote
in news:pan.2008.01...@nospam.invalid:

>
> On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:17:11 -0600, Christopher Jahn wrote:
>
>>> I have gotten into what has become an insane disagreement
>>> with someone I work with over whether or not using
>>> "pink"--actually magenta--gel in the downstage wash makes
>>> people on stage look "gay".
>>
>> No, getting up onstage does that.
>>
>> ;-D
>

> No, ducky. I don't think climbing the slanging tree to give
> all those omees and palones in the cheap seats a vada at what
> your drag looks like and so that they can hear you as you
> polari with a grand and clara vox amongst your fellow artistes
> ... makes you gay.

I said getting up onstage "makes you LOOK gay." Not "MAKES you
gay."

The Dear Lord and a couple years in prison MAKE you gay.
:-)

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}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/

I'll be back.

dh

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Jan 8, 2008, 7:55:25 AM1/8/08
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On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:34:46 -0600, Christopher Jahn <cj...@actorsplayhouse.org> wrote:

>"Smoking Causes Lung Cancer (SCLC)" <SC...@nospam.invalid> wrote
>in news:pan.2008.01...@nospam.invalid:
>
>>
>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:17:11 -0600, Christopher Jahn wrote:
>>
>>>> I have gotten into what has become an insane disagreement
>>>> with someone I work with over whether or not using
>>>> "pink"--actually magenta--gel in the downstage wash makes
>>>> people on stage look "gay".
>>>
>>> No, getting up onstage does that.
>>>
>>> ;-D
>>
>> No, ducky. I don't think climbing the slanging tree to give
>> all those omees and palones in the cheap seats a vada at what
>> your drag looks like and so that they can hear you as you
>> polari with a grand and clara vox amongst your fellow artistes
>> ... makes you gay.
>
>I said getting up onstage "makes you LOOK gay." Not "MAKES you
>gay."

Magenta doesn't even make people look pink. They still look
red, just not as harsh.

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Rich Dionne

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Jan 9, 2008, 9:26:11 AM1/9/08
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On Jan 8, 12:30 pm, "Smoking Causes Lung Cancer (SCLC)"
<S...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:55:25 -0500, dh wrote:
> > Magenta doesn't even make people look pink. They still look
> > red, just not as harsh.
>
> Agreed.
>
> --
> Smoking Causes Lung Cancer
>
> "The IT industry landscape is littered with the dead
> dreams of people who once trusted Microsoft."

Are we seriously even having this conversation? Would we even discuss
whether using "canary" makes someone look Asian? Or, better yet, not
whether magenta makes people look gay, but whether it makes them look
Communist? Does green make people look like a Star Trek Vulcan?

Color can evoke mood, time of day, location, and any number of other
things, but I'd be hard pressed to believe color can evoke sexual
preference (certainly sexiness, but not sexual preference!), race,
gender, creed, or anything similar. We might as well suggest that
using mottled template patterns and white light--making the stage look
a little like the patterns on a cow's hide--suggests the actors might
practice bestiality with cattle.

Perhaps your friend needs to seek counseling, if he's "sees" sexual
preference--and is bothered by it--so easily.

Rich

Lloydj

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Jan 11, 2008, 1:57:44 PM1/11/08
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>
>     Magenta doesn't even make people look pink. They still look
> red, just not as harsh.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Monique VanVooren once said to me in a fit of pique "Vat are zees
yellow lights? I cannot vork under zem!" Was it the perception that
she'd look old that brought that response? So I changed them to pink
because clearly she didn't worry about looking gay. It did smooth out
some wrinkles a bit, too!
Lloyd

Rob Steere

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Jan 12, 2008, 3:25:48 AM1/12/08
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"Lloydj" <ljef...@theclarientgroup.com> wrote in message
news:781e5228-00b2-4b3e...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>Monique VanVooren once said to me in a fit of pique "Vat are zees
>yellow lights? I cannot vork under zem!" Was it the perception that
>she'd look old that brought that response? So I changed them to pink
>because clearly she didn't worry about looking gay. It did smooth out
>some wrinkles a bit, too!
>Lloyd

Had a similar situation with a solo artist back in college. (Folk singer,
blanking on the name)
Her rider specifically stated no yellow lights anywhere, and her manager
vocalized it to us once or twice during setup, too.

-Rob


Sean

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Jan 14, 2008, 5:08:04 AM1/14/08
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Rich Dionne wrote:

> Does green make people look like a Star Trek Vulcan?

Actually there might be some truth in that one. ;)
(Especially if they have a pudding bowl haircut and pointy ears.)

> Perhaps your friend needs to seek counseling, if he's "sees" sexual
> preference--and is bothered by it--so easily.

Perhaps there's something he's trying to tell you?

dh

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Jan 20, 2008, 2:19:41 PM1/20/08
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 06:26:11 -0800 (PST), Rich Dionne <r.di...@insightbb.com> wrote:

>On Jan 8, 12:30 pm, "Smoking Causes Lung Cancer (SCLC)"
><S...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:55:25 -0500, dh wrote:
>> > Magenta doesn't even make people look pink. They still look
>> > red, just not as harsh.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> --
>> Smoking Causes Lung Cancer
>>
>> "The IT industry landscape is littered with the dead
>> dreams of people who once trusted Microsoft."
>
>Are we seriously even having this conversation?

I get that feeling too. Often, in fact. Very often...

Well, there was complaining about the magenta which I
said I prefer because it's more of a red idea, and then
the other night here came a band whose LD put in some
pink that is no doubt a *pink!* pink. The powers that be
want to keep the gel the same for a while and use it with
the house band. I mentioned to one of the guitarists that:
"You guys are going to be pink for sure now", and he
sort of gave a little moan.

>Would we even discuss
>whether using "canary" makes someone look Asian? Or, better yet, not
>whether magenta makes people look gay, but whether it makes them look
>Communist? Does green make people look like a Star Trek Vulcan?
>
>Color can evoke mood, time of day, location, and any number of other
>things, but I'd be hard pressed to believe color can evoke sexual
>preference (certainly sexiness, but not sexual preference!), race,
>gender, creed, or anything similar. We might as well suggest that
>using mottled template patterns and white light--making the stage look
>a little like the patterns on a cow's hide--suggests the actors might
>practice bestiality with cattle.
>
>Perhaps your friend needs to seek counseling, if he's "sees" sexual
>preference--and is bothered by it--so easily.
>
>Rich

There are a couple of other things he might discuss as well :-)

KDRobertson

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Feb 6, 2008, 1:28:47 PM2/6/08
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I don't think pink or magenta washes are a sign of "gay"...so much as
the musicals in which I often see the pink and the magent washes.

I find it hilarious that someone actually had a rider about the gel
colors used. It seems like a real handicap not to be able to use amber
lights in a production because of one person's skin tone.

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thewendy

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Mar 7, 2008, 2:16:19 PM3/7/08
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Just use R46 or an equivelant and don't tell them it's pink. In my
experience most people can't tell the difference and they think it's red.

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