Phew! Again.

[Chuck Spears]

That that turned into a bit of a scrap, in more ways than one.

[Neal]

I think Ajax had a bigger case of phew.

[Lawrence Jenkins]

On Thursday, 11 May 2017 22:15:59 UTC+1, Chuck Spears wrote:
> That that turned into a bit of a scrap, in more ways than one.

Wasn't totally convincing was it. Now got the nail biting final; these are teams we haven't sweated over in years.

[Lawrence Jenkins]

On Thursday, 11 May 2017 22:25:07 UTC+1, Neal wrote:
> I think Ajax had a bigger case of phew.

Neal can I ask you again about your whereabouts-was it Columbia I ask as my son is going there meeting a mate there on an off for a couple of months staring June. I'm worried the silly bastard will kid kidnapped and I'll be broke in my retirement. Is it fairly okay

[Chuck Spears]

Everything was fine until they scored but that was always going to
happen and the crowd sensed it. That team has beaten Real and Barcelona
this season, so they had to have a bit more about them than they showed
in the first leg.

[Darth Simian]

On 11/05/2017 22:31, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

> On Thursday, 11 May 2017 22:15:59 UTC+1, Chuck Spears wrote:
>> That that turned into a bit of a scrap, in more ways than one.
>
> Wasn't totally convincing was it.
>

You said it mate...
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[Neal]

I've made three separate trips to different parts of Colombia over the years. I love the place. I'd say that although it does have its relative dangers for tourists, these are really common themes experienced throughout Latin America (i.e. pick pockets, bag snatchers, etc. It's actually made a remarkable transformation from the place it was several years ago. The transformation has been so much that it now has a thriving economy and people from neighboring countries are trying to get in to find work. It's funny how Venezuelans used to look down their noses at their primitive neighbors, but are now flooding in to escape the horror show back home. A classic case of socialism gone wrong and capitalism gone right.

[Lawrence Jenkins]

Thanks Neal I feel a whole lot better now . Its good to know that there's some decent people using this NG

[Chuck Spears]

It looked to me like a country with an economy too dependent on the
price of oil. It has more oil reserves than any other country but the
rapid fall in the price of oil could hardly be blamed on Venezuela.
To put it in perspective, Venezuela owes $7.2 billion in debts, USA
owes over $19 trillion in debts. It looks like both are in the shit but
one seems to have limitless credit.

[Neal]

It can't be blamed on oil prices and an economy heavily dependent on it. If that was the case, then countries in the Gulf would be suffering identical problems. No, Venezuela has been a shitshow of terrible mismanagement and corruption.

[Lawrence Jenkins]

On Friday, 12 May 2017 11:15:22 UTC+1, Neal wrote:
> It can't be blamed on oil prices and an economy heavily dependent on it. If that was the case, then countries in the Gulf would be suffering identical problems. No, Venezuela has been a shitshow of terrible mismanagement and corruption.

Remember red Ken whilst mayor of London he introduced the 'congestion charge' which by the way has nothing to do with congestion. But he justified it as a means to ward of global warming and co2 emissions. Being a loathsome little left twat who has never had a proper job let alone run a business Red Ken hated 'big oil' it was a pollutant only serving to make the -usually- US oil barons stinking rich regardless whether its profit mark up was put to shame by trendy left Apple. Anyway Ken made it clear in that nasal whiney tone of his that oil caused global warming and pollution then of course he did the usual lefty volte face and was planning a deal with Venezuela's Hugo Chavez where the London mayor would scoop a coup and get lots of cheap petrol for TFL a private firm that has been subsidised by Londoners.


The whole of the left are crooks and as a colleague of mine said "they have an infinite capacity to lie, be hypocrites and kill by the million.

I'm just echoing Neal that the left are corrupt .

Just getting back to oil and Anthropogenic Global Warming. Under the last Labour scots mob they appointed SA professor of Chemistry Sir David Kind as the chief scientific advisor and my god how the BBC loved him as he screamed about dangerous climate change that no one has yet seen. It was King who advised the chancellor to view Diesel as a greener fuel than petrol. |Great move people invest in diesel feeling good about it and then out of the blue diesel is killing people. and in London it has to be stopped , unless you pay of course then you can poison people as much as you can afford. So diesel vehicles will now drop in value. Sir David King who championed the ending of apartheid but now lives in England said . "The car manufactures stitched me up " So say a professor of Chemistry. Further examples that the left sate of mind needs to be classified as a mental illness.

[Chuck Spears]

On 12/05/2017 11:15, Neal wrote:
> It can't be blamed on oil prices and an economy heavily dependent on it. If that was the case, then countries in the Gulf would be suffering identical problems. No, Venezuela has been a shitshow of terrible mismanagement and corruption.
>

You will notice, 'The country registered a budget shortfall of $97
billion last year'. Venezuela's total debt is $7.2 billion, that's a
shortfall in one year by Saudi Arabia of more than 13 times Venezuela's
total debt. Access to limitless credit saves the day.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/saudi-arabia-raises-175-billion-in-record-sovereign-bond-sale-damaged-public-finances-a7370896.html

[Neal]

I guess we've all got it wrong then with Chavez and Maduro. Driving out businesses and entrepreneurship, not to mention printing money and propping up other socialist/communist regimes. Fidel was right all along.

[Chuck Spears]

On 12/05/2017 13:53, Neal wrote:
> I guess we've all got it wrong then with Chavez and Maduro. Driving out businesses and entrepreneurship, not to mention printing money and propping up other socialist/communist regimes. Fidel was right all along.
>

I don't know about any of that, I simply stated the current crisis was
due to over dependence on oil revenue. To try to make a political point
out of it isn't necessary.
I suppose South America's problems were sown when the Europeans
arrived. North America shared out the land by letting many people stake
claims, South America mainly went the opposite way and it never really
got going.

[Neal]

Access to credit is just like me applying for a bank loan. My ability to get the loan is all about my financial reputation which is the score that indicates my likelihood of paying it back. The Saudis have an excellent reputation, while Venezuela has fallen about as far as one could get. Seizing foreign owned businesses is not something that's going to impress lenders.

[Chuck Spears]

On 12/05/2017 14:49, Neal wrote:
> Access to credit is just like me applying for a bank loan. My ability to get the loan is all about my financial reputation which is the score that indicates my likelihood of paying it back. The Saudis have an excellent reputation, while Venezuela has fallen about as far as one could get. Seizing foreign owned businesses is not something that's going to impress lenders.
>

A countries borrowing is not just like you or me applying for a bank
loan. For a start most countries will never pay back the money they
borrow. Do you think USA will ever pay back 19 trillion?
Some countries are so large and have so much debt that they are too big
to fail. That old saying, owe the bank £100 and you worry, owe the bank
£1 million and they worry, springs to mind.
A countries credit worthiness is largely based on it's debt to GDP
ratio, which is used to assess whether it can pay the interest. All is
not equal in that the respect and that is were the politics comes in.
Just as there are many leaders in the EU who will be determined to make
Brexit fail, there are many countries around the world who are
determined to make Socialism and Communism fail, for obvious reasons.
For example money is still being poured into Ukraine, which is much
less likely to service it's debts than Venezuela. That has much more to
do with the advance of NATO further east than any sensible finance. One
loan offered a few years ago included the condition that Ukraine joined
NATO. That threat then prompted Russia to move to protect it's military
base in Crimea.
I doubt you have any such considerations when you apply for a loan,
although somebody may come and seize your stuff if you don't pay, just
one more complication when it comes to loans to governments.

[RED DEVIL]

Cocaine capital of the World




The RED DEVIL

[Chuck Spears]

Supply and demand I suppose, don't knock it, drug money probably saved
some big banks and very likely helps keep the London property market on
the rise.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1235512/Drugs-money-saved-banks-collapse-global-crisis-claims-UN-drugs-crime-chief.html