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Marsh
May 25, 2012, 2:50:41 PM5/25/12
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Perhaps someone hasn't noticed but staying pat has cascaded from owner
down to and including the assistant coaches?
Fine you say, they've won the Presidents Cup twice in a row?
What they've done is boxed in the team so that only player changes are
left to fix the fact that "offensive hockey" has only worked once in 5
playoff series, against San Jose last year. Coincidentally also the
only series the Sedins and the power play have been reasonably
effective. And the most likely changes are in goal, if one is traded,
and maybe replacing Mason Raymond. Changing the fourth liners won't
make a difference. So what we saw is what we will see. What am I
missing here?
Marsh
down to and including the assistant coaches?
Fine you say, they've won the Presidents Cup twice in a row?
What they've done is boxed in the team so that only player changes are
left to fix the fact that "offensive hockey" has only worked once in 5
playoff series, against San Jose last year. Coincidentally also the
only series the Sedins and the power play have been reasonably
effective. And the most likely changes are in goal, if one is traded,
and maybe replacing Mason Raymond. Changing the fourth liners won't
make a difference. So what we saw is what we will see. What am I
missing here?
Marsh
Alan Baker
May 25, 2012, 2:52:47 PM5/25/12
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In article
<e0352c76-aabc-4db2...@l10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
What you're missing is that there is actually very little wrong with the
team.
This year, they ran into a buzzsaw called the Los Angeles Kings and so
far, no team has been able to do any better against them than the
Canucks did.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
<e0352c76-aabc-4db2...@l10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
team.
This year, they ran into a buzzsaw called the Los Angeles Kings and so
far, no team has been able to do any better against them than the
Canucks did.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
dg3
May 25, 2012, 6:04:47 PM5/25/12
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golf in, by gettin knocked outearly.
schmuck fans are as dumb as tronna fans.
Marsh
May 25, 2012, 6:17:17 PM5/25/12
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On May 25, 12:52 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <e0352c76-aabc-4db2-9e86-af7dc7d75...@l10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
Luongo last year. And it continued this year.
Vigneault, in his press conference, suggested they might stop
following the Detroit model. And replace it with what?
Bruins. Before that it was a buzzsaw called the Hawks. Before that
it was Minnesota. The Canucks can't control what the Kings do, but if
they want to win, they need to control what they do. With each layer
of non-improvement, it cuts down the options. I can buy Gillis and
Vigneault but nada? I think even a loyal supporter like you could
think of a few tweaks in the coaching.
> In article
> <e0352c76-aabc-4db2-9e86-af7dc7d75...@l10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Marsh <vaughnmarshall2...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Perhaps someone hasn't noticed but staying pat has cascaded from owner
> > down to and including the assistant coaches?
> > Fine you say, they've won the Presidents Cup twice in a row?
>
> > What they've done is boxed in the team so that only player changes are
> > left to fix the fact that "offensive hockey" has only worked once in 5
> > playoff series, against San Jose last year. Coincidentally also the
> > only series the Sedins and the power play have been reasonably
> > effective. And the most likely changes are in goal, if one is traded,
> > and maybe replacing Mason Raymond. Changing the fourth liners won't
> > make a difference. So what we saw is what we will see. What am I
> > missing here?
>
> > Marsh
>
> What you're missing is that there is actually very little wrong with the
> team.
Really? Even you commented on the lack of scoring in your defense of
> Marsh <vaughnmarshall2...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Perhaps someone hasn't noticed but staying pat has cascaded from owner
> > down to and including the assistant coaches?
> > Fine you say, they've won the Presidents Cup twice in a row?
>
> > What they've done is boxed in the team so that only player changes are
> > left to fix the fact that "offensive hockey" has only worked once in 5
> > playoff series, against San Jose last year. Coincidentally also the
> > only series the Sedins and the power play have been reasonably
> > effective. And the most likely changes are in goal, if one is traded,
> > and maybe replacing Mason Raymond. Changing the fourth liners won't
> > make a difference. So what we saw is what we will see. What am I
> > missing here?
>
> > Marsh
>
> What you're missing is that there is actually very little wrong with the
> team.
Luongo last year. And it continued this year.
Vigneault, in his press conference, suggested they might stop
following the Detroit model. And replace it with what?
>
> This year, they ran into a buzzsaw called the Los Angeles Kings and so
> far, no team has been able to do any better against them than the
> Canucks did.
Such a convenient excuse. Last year it was a buzzsaw called the
> This year, they ran into a buzzsaw called the Los Angeles Kings and so
> far, no team has been able to do any better against them than the
> Canucks did.
Bruins. Before that it was a buzzsaw called the Hawks. Before that
it was Minnesota. The Canucks can't control what the Kings do, but if
they want to win, they need to control what they do. With each layer
of non-improvement, it cuts down the options. I can buy Gillis and
Vigneault but nada? I think even a loyal supporter like you could
think of a few tweaks in the coaching.
Alan Baker
May 25, 2012, 7:55:47 PM5/25/12
to
In article
<eff50c79-a5f6-4864...@s9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> Even you commented on the lack of scoring in your defense of
> Luongo last year. And it continued this year.
Yup. There was definitely a lack of scoring in the SCF in 2011...
...but the reason was a team that was injured up and down the line.
> Vigneault, in his press conference, suggested they might stop
> following the Detroit model. And replace it with what?
I don't know. Let's wait and see.
> >
> > This year, they ran into a buzzsaw called the Los Angeles Kings and so
> > far, no team has been able to do any better against them than the
> > Canucks did.
>
> Such a convenient excuse. Last year it was a buzzsaw called the
> Bruins. Before that it was a buzzsaw called the Hawks. Before that
> it was Minnesota. The Canucks can't control what the Kings do, but if
> they want to win, they need to control what they do. With each layer
> of non-improvement, it cuts down the options. I can buy Gillis and
> Vigneault but nada? I think even a loyal supporter like you could
> think of a few tweaks in the coaching.
Come on, Marsh: be honest. The LA Kings are demolishing every team they
meet.
<eff50c79-a5f6-4864...@s9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Marsh <vaughnmar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On May 25, 12:52 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <e0352c76-aabc-4db2-9e86-af7dc7d75...@l10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Marsh <vaughnmarshall2...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Perhaps someone hasn't noticed but staying pat has cascaded from owner
> > > down to and including the assistant coaches?
> > > Fine you say, they've won the Presidents Cup twice in a row?
> >
> > > What they've done is boxed in the team so that only player changes are
> > > left to fix the fact that "offensive hockey" has only worked once in 5
> > > playoff series, against San Jose last year. Coincidentally also the
> > > only series the Sedins and the power play have been reasonably
> > > effective. And the most likely changes are in goal, if one is traded,
> > > and maybe replacing Mason Raymond. Changing the fourth liners won't
> > > make a difference. So what we saw is what we will see. What am I
> > > missing here?
> >
> > > Marsh
> >
> > What you're missing is that there is actually very little wrong with the
> > team.
>
> Really?
Really.
> On May 25, 12:52 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <e0352c76-aabc-4db2-9e86-af7dc7d75...@l10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Marsh <vaughnmarshall2...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Perhaps someone hasn't noticed but staying pat has cascaded from owner
> > > down to and including the assistant coaches?
> > > Fine you say, they've won the Presidents Cup twice in a row?
> >
> > > What they've done is boxed in the team so that only player changes are
> > > left to fix the fact that "offensive hockey" has only worked once in 5
> > > playoff series, against San Jose last year. Coincidentally also the
> > > only series the Sedins and the power play have been reasonably
> > > effective. And the most likely changes are in goal, if one is traded,
> > > and maybe replacing Mason Raymond. Changing the fourth liners won't
> > > make a difference. So what we saw is what we will see. What am I
> > > missing here?
> >
> > > Marsh
> >
> > What you're missing is that there is actually very little wrong with the
> > team.
>
> Really?
> Even you commented on the lack of scoring in your defense of
> Luongo last year. And it continued this year.
...but the reason was a team that was injured up and down the line.
> Vigneault, in his press conference, suggested they might stop
> following the Detroit model. And replace it with what?
> >
> > This year, they ran into a buzzsaw called the Los Angeles Kings and so
> > far, no team has been able to do any better against them than the
> > Canucks did.
>
> Such a convenient excuse. Last year it was a buzzsaw called the
> Bruins. Before that it was a buzzsaw called the Hawks. Before that
> it was Minnesota. The Canucks can't control what the Kings do, but if
> they want to win, they need to control what they do. With each layer
> of non-improvement, it cuts down the options. I can buy Gillis and
> Vigneault but nada? I think even a loyal supporter like you could
> think of a few tweaks in the coaching.
meet.
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