Wouldnt McCabe on the blueline look good now!
Tunnel
If he is gone for the tourney, that is a huge loss. To bad Team Canada
didnt add another physical defensemen with good offensive skills to the
roster two weeks ago.. McCabe should be in this game.
Tunnel
Captain Howdy
didn't want to risk him getting hurt... plus his performance in games 5 and
6 vs. Philly.
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"Captain Howdy" <captai...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Because of what happened to Jovo, is exactly why McCabe isn't playing.
> Quinn
> didn't want to risk him getting hurt... plus his performance in games 5
> and
> 6 vs. Philly.
>
>
Vancouver didn't make it out of the first round.
Neither did the Senators.
The Oilers, Panthers didnt make the playoffs.
Evidently the overall performances of Jovo, Bouwmeester, Brewer and Reddon
didn't vault their teams fortunes either. McCabe's Leafs made it a round
further. The two games McCabe had in Philly were terrible, he personally
admitted that. However, they don't make a career! He should be in this
tournament over at least four of the defensemen on the squad. Bouwmeester,
Reddon, Brewer and Hannan.
Tunnel.
pawn
> The two games McCabe had in Philly were terrible, he personally
> admitted that. However, they don't make a career! He should be in this
> tournament over at least four of the defensemen on the squad.
And he was likely injured, and has never once played the excuse card.
ross prost
a big mouth. Now the whole lot of you quit yer freakin whining and get
over it. He didnt make the team for sound hockey decision based
reasons. Cut and dry.
Will
sort of behaviour doesn't seem to be a reason for exclusion.
This is a Leafs group and people here wanted to see him on the team and he
easily could have done a good job there. So, jam it.
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: He's too inconsistent and prone to brain cramps at times, not to mention
: over it. He didnt make the team for sound hockey decision based
: reasons. Cut and dry.
Actually sound hockey decisions had nothing to do with McCabe not making
Team Canada. You were closer with some of your original theory i.e big
mouth.
McCabe is certainly one of the top 6 defencemen in the NHL of Canadian
origin. Heck, the NHL determined he was top four.
Any way, at the rate D-men are dropping, I'm glad the NHL braintrust had
the hissy fit and shunned him.
: pawn wrote:
:>
Teeder
Snapshot wrote:
>
>>McCabe is certainly one of the top 6 defencemen in the NHL of Canadian
>>origin. Heck, the NHL determined he was top four.
>
>
> They determined he was top 4 how? Because a bunch of writers gave him 2
> first place votes out of 105 and he tied with Aucoin for 4th place in media
> based Norris trophy voting? Have another one there stingy. The greatest
> minds in Canadian hockey say he's not top 8 at the moment.
So you honestly think that at this moment Eric Brewer, Scott Hannan, and
Jay Bouwmesster are better defencemen? Not one of those players had a
better year than McCabe.
BTW McCabe did not "tie" Aucoin in Norris trophy voting. But apparently
plenty of observers who have nothing to do with Toronto thought he was
one of the top 4 defencemen in the league last year. You can try and
spin it any way you want but that is the bottom line.
pawn
> X-No-archive: yes
>
>
> At least you mentioned the bias.
Of course it's biased, how could it not be?
> It's got more to do with the color of his
> jersey vs his ability compared to the others.
You're quite simply wrong. His stats last year were superior than that
of any defenseman remaining on the team.
Will
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> "Will" <wi...@will.not> wrote in message
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> > I have seen plenty of brain cramps by defencemen who did make the team,
> that
> > sort of behaviour doesn't seem to be a reason for exclusion.
> >
> > This is a Leafs group and people here wanted to see him on the team and
he
> > easily could have done a good job there. So, jam it.
> >
>
> jersey vs his ability compared to the others.
>
>
Scott Hannan just signed a contract worth $2.6 million a year, Regehr makes
less than $2 million for a couple of examples. Since salaries are
negotiated based on relative worth to other players in the league does this
not say something or do those two just have lousy agents?
If you would rather have Scott Hannan on your team than McCabe, then you
truly are clueless. Not that that was ever in question.
Tunnel
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Superior stats to everyone and very comparable to Neidermayer's also.
Check the stats of both players... they dont lie. Neidermayer was defending
Martin Brodeur also, arguably the best goalie in the game. McCabe spent a
chunk of the season defending an erratic Trevor Kidd and rookie Mikael
Tellqvist. McCabe is also far tougher and plays more physically then Scott
and stands up for his teammates despite the odds (Chara). I would never sit
here and say that McCabe is a better player then Neidermayer. However, he
isnt far off and definately in the same class. Its a complete joke he isnt
on this team. A monstrous snub.
Tunnel
Tunnel
"Ralph Malph" <r...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> Teeder <no...@none.com> wrote:
>
>> BTW McCabe did not "tie" Aucoin in Norris trophy voting. But apparently
>> plenty of observers who have nothing to do with Toronto thought he was
>> one of the top 4 defencemen in the league last year. You can try and
>> spin it any way you want but that is the bottom line.
>
> reason why?
>
> Does this mean that Kaberle, Leetch and Klee are all better than
> McCabe?
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm
Um No. Ralph, Rhonda, Ronald, Realto, rlm.
It means that Leetch, Kaberle, Klee are the players their countries picked
from thier own pool of talent which has nothing to do with Team Canada and
Bryan McCabe. Please follow proper internet etiquette and stick to the
thread topic being discussed.
Tunnel.
Tunnel
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> before last McCabe was terrible offensively and he melted down in the
> playoffs so it can be easily said that his reg. season numbers were a
> fluke.
>>
>
Snapshot.
Who said anything about offense? While yes his stats were comparable
offensively to Neidermayer. McCabe also had better stats defensively.
Check out the +/- stats. Remember also Scott has Brodeur behind him.
Belfour is considered a weaker goalie then Brodeur. Also, remember Eddie
missed one quarter of the season with back problems. There is no such
thing as a "FLUKE" season for McCabe or anybody. Your arguments with all due
respect in stupid. The proof is in the stats, so read them.
Tunnel
owl
wrote:
> Offensive production is not what makes a defenseman.
Two-way play is measured a lot more now than it used to be, and
offensive production has been part of the measurement for half a
century.
>Besides, the year
>before last McCabe was terrible offensively and he melted down in the
>playoffs so it can be easily said that his reg. season numbers were a fluke.
So it doesn't count, but if it did the numbers this year don't count
because they weren't there last year. And if the numbers did count
this year they still don't count because of a horrid night in Game 5.
And all objective observers see it the way you do, and only some
biased weirdo's fell into the trap and made him 4th in Norris voting.
Are those your final answers?
Basically, the Leafs are lousy because of the shots-on-goal stats, and
Bryan McCabe isn't a good defenceman because the numbers don't mean
anything; and Lundqvist is ten times better than Tellqvist even tho
Lundqvist didn't even get the backup nod; and Lundqvist is sure-fire
#1 in the NHL down the road even tho he's not backup because they're
playing on an NHL sized surface.
And the flare on the kayak is you claiming other people get personal
when it's your 'parade' 'goggles' 'pom-poms' 'cheerleader' Hancock,
that makes any and every subject look like a content excuse to insult
someone.
owl
wrote:
>Lunqvist will be a better goalie than Tellqvist IMO. He has never played on
>the big ice so it's a plausable reason not to play him in this tournament.
>It's amazing how you trash Lundqvist who is the best goalie in the SEL.
I haven't trashed Lundqvist. You dragged him in here by comparison
with nothing to base the comparison on. I have no idea if or when
he'll make a move a be successful in the NHL. There's nothing to go
on.
It's the creativity of your 'sure fire #1' of Lundqvist vs. the
mediocrity of Tellq that got the usual treatment.
> TSN says he's a 1A and every pther prospect rating I have read on him is
>extremely positive. His numbers were outstanding the past 2 years including
>a silver in the WC's yet you discredit this because of Tellqvist. Bizarro.
I haven't discredited anything. You're the paper pusher making claims
with zippo on the NHL ice-surface.
>> And the flare on the kayak is you claiming other people get personal
>> when it's your 'parade' 'goggles' 'pom-poms' 'cheerleader' Hancock,
>> that makes any and every subject look like a content excuse to insult
>> someone.
>The king of insults and calling a posters content garbage when it disagrees
>with your drivel.
I reset my case.
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: "Will" <wi...@will.not> wrote in message
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:> I have seen plenty of brain cramps by defencemen who did make the team,
: that
:> sort of behaviour doesn't seem to be a reason for exclusion.
:>
:> This is a Leafs group and people here wanted to see him on the team and he
:> easily could have done a good job there. So, jam it.
:>
: At least you mentioned the bias. It's got more to do with the color of his
: jersey vs his ability compared to the others.
Another Einstein (or Benstein, more likely) speaks.
Yeah, Leafs fans are the only ones who see that McCabe is one of the top
D-men in the NHL and certainly one of the top Canadian D-men. I guess the
Norris voters were all Leafs fans. I guess the all-star team selectors
were all Leafs fans.
Fact is, McCabe is one of the most valuable assets in the Leafs camp.
If JFJ were to offer him up in trade (not that he would be so stupid as to
consider it), he would have most GMs in the league rushing to make a deal.
The blinkers you are seeing are on your own beak. It's not so much us
liking McCabe because he wears a Leafs sweater. Fact is, you don't like
McCabe BECAUSE he wears a Leafs sweater. You'd probably dis Mario
Lemieux if he wore the bud colours. Now go away and bother someone
else.
Freedom Elz
"ross prost" <rpr...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> He's too inconsistent and prone to brain cramps at times, not to mention
> a big mouth. Now the whole lot of you quit yer freakin whining and get
> over it. He didnt make the team for sound hockey decision based
> reasons. Cut and dry.
He's also prone to using that stupid "canopener" move and taking himself out
of position. He's got offensive skill but defensively he's Sandis Ozolinsh.
Freedom Elz
Typical Leaf homer, a guy player doesn't get the job done so rather than
face the shortcoming of his team he uses the "he was really injured and
didn't tell anyone" line. How original.
Hey Pawn, when you order your Winnipeg Falcons throwback jersey are you
going to have "USA" sewn on the back instead of "Canada"?
owl
>He's also prone to using that stupid "canopener" move
Please turn your clock forward ... two years.
ross prost
him? Get a grip bud. There is no 'conspiracy'. If he was good enuff
he'd be there. He's not. Simple.
ross prost
Ralph Malph wrote:
>Teeder <no...@none.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>BTW McCabe did not "tie" Aucoin in Norris trophy voting. But apparently
>>plenty of observers who have nothing to do with Toronto thought he was
>>one of the top 4 defencemen in the league last year. You can try and
>>spin it any way you want but that is the bottom line.
>>
>>
>
>If Canada doesn't win, with the non-inclusion of McCabe be the
>reason why?
>
>Does this mean that Kaberle, Leetch and Klee are all better than
>McCabe?
>
>cordially, as always,
>
>rm
>
for their respective country...yes they are.
ross prost
Will wrote:
egad......watch some of the other teams in the league...get center ice
package if you must. After that get a clue as to how player contracts
shake down as their careers progress. Then read up on the impending
salary cap. Then tell us all how much McCabe is worth when you are 30
mil over the cap and have to start a firesale because of bonehead contracts.
>
>
>
>
RWF
Realto/Ronda/Ralph/Rwhatthefuckismynameanyway in my killfile
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> You lose... again
>
>
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owl
<perfectfan2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>oh, enough. Blah blah blah. Here, you can join
>Realto/Ronda/Ralph/Rwhatthefuckismynameanyway in my killfile
RWF, and others who post it. Killfiles fail the moment you advertise
them. In fact, it encourages all the rosie morphs to jerk your chain.