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Keith Keller

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Nov 28, 2001, 1:54:17 PM11/28/01
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So I heard on the audio feed that Ulanov was benched after his
great pass in the first period. True/untrue? If it is true,
perhaps it's a sign that Low will bench people who screw up
consistently (unless the person's name is MEssier).

Did anyone watching MSGN or at HSBC get to see Ulanov's reaction
to said benching?

Interesting that the ESPN summary on their website makes no
mention of his gaffe, even after they made a big deal of it
on the 1am ET SportsCenter. (I think they get their story from
AP, but still.)

Carolina tonight, eh? How much time will Ulanov see tonight?

- --keith

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Keith Keller

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Nov 28, 2001, 2:03:40 PM11/28/01
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In article <psb3u9...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>,


kke...@speakeasy.net (Keith Keller) writes:
> Carolina tonight, eh? How much time will Ulanov see tonight?

Whoops! Tomorrow night. For some reason my schedule had this
game for tonight. *sheepish laugh* But I knew that was wrong,
really I did.

- --keith

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Bender

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Nov 28, 2001, 2:15:03 PM11/28/01
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The Buffalo network didn't show him after his idiotic mistake, but according
to Mr. Bias, Rick Jeanerette, it's was all due to Hamel's brilliant
foresight and unmatched play.


SNUMBER6

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Nov 28, 2001, 2:17:06 PM11/28/01
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>From: kke...@speakeasy.net (Keith Keller)

>So I heard on the audio feed that Ulanov was benched after his
>great pass in the first period. True/untrue?

Purinton took the normal place of Berard's partner the rest of the game ...


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Nov 28, 2001, 3:57:01 PM11/28/01
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>From: kke...@speakeasy.net (Keith Keller)

>So I heard on the audio feed that Ulanov was benched after his
>great pass in the first period. True/untrue?

True, and VERY deserved.

> If it is true,
>perhaps it's a sign that Low will bench people who screw up
>consistently (unless the person's name is MEssier).

Well, Ughhhlanov doesn't have that NY "can-do-no-wrong" halo that certain
players do have, most notably Mark Mercenarier.

>Did anyone watching MSGN or at HSBC get to see Ulanov's reaction
>to said benching?

They didn't show it. Hopefully he won't be on the bench for the rest of the
year. Send him to Hartford, let someone claim his sorry ass off waivers if we
are lucky.

Of course, it didn't help that Purinton followed up Ulanov's awful play with an
ill-advised elbow to Varada's face (luck he didn't get a double or major with
that piece of work).


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Keith Keller

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Nov 28, 2001, 4:07:09 PM11/28/01
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In article <XIaN7.179859$IR4.66...@news1.denver1.co.home.com>,

"That puck took a bad bounce on Ulanov, Sam."

- --keith

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Dave Bauer

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Nov 28, 2001, 4:52:28 PM11/28/01
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>The Buffalo network didn't show him after his idiotic mistake, but according
>to Mr. Bias, Rick Jeanerette, it's was all due to Hamel's brilliant
>foresight and unmatched play.
>

One of the perks of being up here in Buffalo is being able to listen to Rick
Jeanerette on a regular basis.

This man makes me laugh, hard. Such a homer, and he gets excited by
EVERYTHING. He'll start screaming after a good line change.

David (What do you need?)
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Nov 28, 2001, 6:04:02 PM11/28/01
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>From: kke...@speakeasy.net (Keith Keller)

>"That puck took a bad bounce on Ulanov, Sam."

Please tell me you are just making fun of JD, and he didn't really say that on
the MSG broadcast...

Bender

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Nov 28, 2001, 6:09:00 PM11/28/01
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I always loathe playing Buffalo because I know I'll be forced to listen to
Jeanerette screaching on and on about nothing. God damn Center Ice will
ALWAYS show the Buffalo feed, regardless of where the game's at. For
instance, this season's home opener against Buffalo. Sounds like a likely
candidate for MSG, right? No! I despise no hockey broadcaster as much
(Gary Thorne included) as I do Rick Jeanerette. His color man though, is
quite good in my opinion.

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Don Cardoza

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Nov 28, 2001, 10:08:24 PM11/28/01
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Is he the same guy who shouted MAYDAY MAYDAY MANYDAY after Brad May's OT
Playoff goal one year?


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Don Cardoza

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Nov 28, 2001, 10:13:50 PM11/28/01
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Sorry for the last typo.


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Imoverherenow00

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Nov 28, 2001, 10:56:52 PM11/28/01
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Ulanov makes some bad plays but he's a big nasty defenseman and we need that he
has a big upside on this team

Bender

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Nov 28, 2001, 11:36:52 PM11/28/01
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Yes, he is that man.


Dave Bauer

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Nov 29, 2001, 3:08:59 AM11/29/01
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>
>Ulanov makes some bad plays but he's a big nasty defenseman and we need that
>he
>has a big upside on this team

I don't care what he is. If there's one kind of player that doesn't belong in
the NHL, it's a defenseman that makes bad plays.

John Bradley

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Nov 29, 2001, 11:23:23 AM11/29/01
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kke...@speakeasy.net (Keith Keller) writes:

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> So I heard on the audio feed that Ulanov was benched after his
> great pass in the first period. True/untrue? If it is true,
> perhaps it's a sign that Low will bench people who screw up
> consistently (unless the person's name is MEssier).
>
> Did anyone watching MSGN or at HSBC get to see Ulanov's reaction
> to said benching?
>

I think this is a good sign. Low said something to the effect that he
had seen enough poor passing from Ulanov and he couldn't stand watching
it anymore.

We have 8 NHL caliber defensemen on the team (including Van Impe). So there
is no reason to tolerate sloppy or undisciplined play. Ulanov should be
sat until he gets his head into the game.

I didn't notice any reaction from Ulanov. They didn't show him on the
bench but they did show him walking from the bench to the locker room
with a deadpan expression.

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Clifford Seifer

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Nov 29, 2001, 2:43:28 PM11/29/01
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On 29 Nov 2001, John Bradley wrote:

> kke...@speakeasy.net (Keith Keller) writes:
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> > So I heard on the audio feed that Ulanov was benched after his
> > great pass in the first period. True/untrue? If it is true,
> > perhaps it's a sign that Low will bench people who screw up
> > consistently (unless the person's name is MEssier).
> >
> > Did anyone watching MSGN or at HSBC get to see Ulanov's reaction
> > to said benching?
> >
>
> I think this is a good sign. Low said something to the effect that he
> had seen enough poor passing from Ulanov and he couldn't stand watching
> it anymore.

They mentioned during the radio broadcast of the game that Low had
specifically told him never to make that particular play again.

It's bad enough to be told by the caoch not to make that play and then to
go ahead and do it anyway.

It's bad enough to make that play and give up a goal.

Put the two together and you've pretty much signed your own death warrent.

-- Cliff

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Nov 29, 2001, 4:26:01 PM11/29/01
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>From: imoverh...@aol.com (Imoverherenow00)

>Ulanov makes some bad plays but he's a big nasty defenseman and we need that
>he
>has a big upside on this team

The problem is that he's an even bigger upside for the team we are playing
against.

Ughhhlanov is a waste of space most of the time...half-assed defense and passes
so ill-advised they would make Jeff Beukeboom cringe... At least Chris Tamer
would fight on a regular basis for the team if asked.

We have a surplus of defensemen...Kloucek can knock 'em on their asses, and if
we can keep Purinton's dirty streak in check, Ulanov is just that...a surplus
extra defenseman....let him hone his fundamentals for Hartford or some other
team and let us find someone else who is willing to do some nasty hitting for a
spot with the big team (there has got to be SOME defenseman who would sacrifice
the body to show he can cut it in the NHL).

Clifford Seifer

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Nov 29, 2001, 5:01:08 PM11/29/01
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Here's the frustrating thing though. We have this surplus of defensemen
with incredible talent so why does the defence such so bad?

I'm actually not adverse to giving LeFebvre another chance. It's a
whole new mix of players so we may as well see what he can do under these
circumstances. If he can contribute something then fuck the past. If
not, nothing lost in the trying.

-- Cliff

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visitors. Monkeys get used to human, they don't run away when visitors
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close to them. "

Keith Keller

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Nov 29, 2001, 5:18:46 PM11/29/01
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In article <Pine.BSI.4.05L.101112...@milk.sover.net>,


Clifford Seifer <clif...@sover.net> writes:
> Here's the frustrating thing though. We have this surplus of defensemen

Agreed...

> with incredible talent

Not so sure about this one, though. *Potential* talent, maybe.

> so why does the defence suck so bad?

Partly it's because we don't have many good defensive defensemen.
But, IMO, it's mostly because the forwards don't know how to play
defensively, and the defensemen are overburdened in their own
zone. They are improving in this area from last season, but that's
not saying much.

> I'm actually not adverse to giving LeFebvre another chance. It's a
> whole new mix of players so we may as well see what he can do under these
> circumstances. If he can contribute something then fuck the past. If
> not, nothing lost in the trying.

Hmm...I feel Lefebvre is a bit of a wimp, and think of him as
a small Ulanov. I would like to know why Van Impe isn't getting
more time at the expense of Ulanov--Low could scratch Ulanov
and see what Van Impe can do.

Hey, it could be worse--we could still have Quintal.

- --keith

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PHyatt1962

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Nov 29, 2001, 6:39:58 PM11/29/01
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I'm hoping that the benching woke him up...but 'woke him up' to what, I do not
know.

PH

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Nov 29, 2001, 8:18:07 PM11/29/01
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In article <Pine.BSI.4.05L.101112...@milk.sover.net>,
clif...@sover.net says...

> Here's the frustrating thing though. We have this surplus of defensemen
> with incredible talent so why does the defence such so bad?
>
> I'm actually not adverse to giving LeFebvre another chance. It's a
> whole new mix of players so we may as well see what he can do under these
> circumstances. If he can contribute something then fuck the past. If
> not, nothing lost in the trying.

It does seem like it'd be worth giving Lefebvre another shot. He did
pretty well when with the Avalanche. He never did anything as
egregious as Ulanov's "assist" the other night, anyway.

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