WE'RE GETTING HASEK!!!!
Matthew Pitt
for a package that includes Primeau.
M. Scott Bassin
: Reports out of Detroit and Buffalo say that we are going to trade for him
Don't do it, Scotty!! Goaltending is important and all, but Hasek is in
his early thirties already (he played a lot in Sweden or whatever before
coming over here), and Primeau is one of the most promising young
centermen in the league. Think about it, if we ever go up against
Lindros in the finals, who can stop him but Primeau?
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Chuck Wickham
In article <3vq4am$3...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, M. Scott Bassin (woo...@news-server.engin.umich.edu) writes:
>Matthew Pitt (gor...@inforamp.net) wrote:
>: Reports out of Detroit and Buffalo say that we are going to trade for him
>: for a package that includes Primeau.
>
>Don't do it, Scotty!! Goaltending is important and all, but Hasek is in
>his early thirties already (he played a lot in Sweden or whatever before
>coming over here), and Primeau is one of the most promising young
>centermen in the league. Think about it, if we ever go up against
>Lindros in the finals, who can stop him but Primeau?
The only goalie that I would even begin to consider trading Primeau
for would be Ed Belfor. If we had him there would be a cup (other
than a supporter), setting pretty in Detroit.
Chuck
Jason Carter
>
>Matthew Pitt (gor...@inforamp.net) wrote:
>: Reports out of Detroit and Buffalo say that we are going to trade for him
>: for a package that includes Primeau.
>
>Don't do it, Scotty!! Goaltending is important and all, but Hasek is in
>his early thirties already (he played a lot in Sweden or whatever before
>coming over here), and Primeau is one of the most promising young
>centermen in the league. Think about it, if we ever go up against
>Lindros in the finals, who can stop him but Primeau?
>M. Scott Bassin | "All plans between men are tentative. If one man
>EA Sports | should suddenly have an opportunity to pursue a
>Ph: 415-372-0915 | woman, it's like these two guys never met each
>woo...@engin.umich.edu | other. This is the male code." - Jerry Seinfeld
The Ranford trade sounds better. Seems like roughly the same package to
get a younger goalie. I've heard Primeau and Lidstrom for him. I live
up here in the GREAT WHITE NORTH(In B.C) and listen to some of the
Edmonton sport shows which is where i heard this one.
Jason C Bau
:
: In article <3vq4am$3...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, M. Scott Bassin (woo...@news-server.engin.umich.edu) writes:
: >Matthew Pitt (gor...@inforamp.net) wrote:
: >: Reports out of Detroit and Buffalo say that we are going to trade for him
: >: for a package that includes Primeau.
: >
: >Don't do it, Scotty!! Goaltending is important and all, but Hasek is in
: >his early thirties already (he played a lot in Sweden or whatever before
: >coming over here), and Primeau is one of the most promising young
: >centermen in the league. Think about it, if we ever go up against
: >Lindros in the finals, who can stop him but Primeau?
: The only goalie that I would even begin to consider trading Primeau
: for would be Ed Belfor. If we had him there would be a cup (other
: than a supporter), setting pretty in Detroit.
: Chuck
You'll never get belfour....I'd be thrilled to get Hasek BACK...that's right
I'm a hawks fan, and would love to have him and eddie on the same team AGAIN!
anyway, hasek will get you guys a cup and some rings to go with it....
Tom Holly
Jason C Bau <bauj...@mulder.msu.edu> wrote:
>
>You'll never get belfour....I'd be thrilled to get Hasek BACK...that's right
>I'm a hawks fan, and would love to have him and eddie on the same team AGAIN!
>anyway, hasek will get you guys a cup and some rings to go with it....
>
I'm not sure why so many people think that they need 2 first
string goalies. Do you think Belfour and Hasek would be willing to
play on the same team, dividing an 84 game season between them? There
would be more than just a little ego problem there. Most first string
goalies can (and should) play 60-70 games in a season.
I thought that's how a team developed young goalies: have a
youngster (ie Osgood) play backup for a few seasons and get 15-25 games
in a season behind a proven goalie (ie Vernon).
That's what Toronto and Edmonton did with Potvin and Ranford.
They played backup to Grant Fuhr until they were proven goaltenders, and
then Fuhr was traded.
This is how goalies have stepped into the NHL in the past...is
there any reason that it should be changed?
Tom
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Big Daddy
>
>Reports out of Detroit and Buffalo say that we are going to trade for him
>for a package that includes Primeau.
What a panic move that would be. Our problem in the finals wasn't Vernon so much as
what was going on in front of him. The whole team panicked and paid the price.
Another issue would come up in my mind with any major deal involving Primeau. How
many years did Wings fans have to wait for this guy to develop? This organization has
invested an incredible amount of time and patience on Primeau to finally see him come into
his own in 1994-95; if there is anyone on the roster who's untouchable (and there might not
be), it ought to be him.
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>
>In article <3vq4am$3...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>,
woo...@news-server.engin.umich.edu (M. Scott Bassin) says:
>>
>>Matthew Pitt (gor...@inforamp.net) wrote:
>>: for a package that includes Primeau.
>>
>>his early thirties already (he played a lot in Sweden or whatever before
>>coming over here), and Primeau is one of the most promising young
>>centermen in the league. Think about it, if we ever go up against
>>Lindros in the finals, who can stop him but Primeau?
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>>M. Scott Bassin | "All plans between men are tentative. If one
man
>>EA Sports | should suddenly have an opportunity to pursue
a
>>Ph: 415-372-0915 | woman, it's like these two guys never met each
>>woo...@engin.umich.edu | other. This is the male code." - Jerry
Seinfeld
>
>
>
>
> The Ranford trade sounds better. Seems like roughly the same package to
>get a younger goalie. I've heard Primeau and Lidstrom for him. I live
>up here in the GREAT WHITE NORTH(In B.C) and listen to some of the
>Edmonton sport shows which is where i heard this one.
Seems to me that letting Osgood in the net is a heck of lot better than
losing two premier young players like Primeau and Lidstrom. Osgood will
be a good goalie--he just wasn't ready for the playoffs. Heck, I think
he's a better goalie than Vernon. Why trade for someone else until Osgood
proves he's not good enough?
Dean John Bull
: In article <3vsk7b$i...@cliff.island.net>, jca...@island.net says...
He already did 2 years ago(re: playoffs)
--
Arch Glasgow
I agree, I think Detroit won't be hurt if someone else signs
Vernon. After Ozzie gets a full regular season in, he'll have enough
experience for the playoffs. I think if Detroit gives him a chance he
will turn into a star goaltender. You bet he's better than Vernon.
Vernon isn't as good as he used to be. Vernon is just taking valuable
season time from Osgood....In with the NEW and out with the OLD. The
only reason why Vernon looked good last season with the Wings is because
of Detroit's superior defence. Detroit only allowed total shot's in the
teens and they were mostly from a far distance.
Jeff Glasgow
GO WINGS!!!
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University of Windsor Bio. Sci.
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ar...@server.uwindsor.ca
RGBol
own go, at a time when size is becoming one of the most important things
in the leauge. For all the hype, the golie situation in Detroit is far
from bad. Yes, Vernon had a few bad games in the playoffs, and Osgood is
just almost there, but not quite ready for 60 plus games at the one spot.
But as far as a veteran at goalie and someone to help Osgood along, we
won't do much better then Vernon, and to do so in my opinion isn't worth
sending Primeau somewhere, anywhere that he could help win several cups
against the Wings.
I know this was "our year" but building a SC championship team takes time,
we all want it now, I think going all out to win next year at the expence
of the next five or ten years isn't worth it. We have the stars, Federov,
Coffy, Yzerman, etc, and good young players, sure changes here and there
won't hurt, but we need to do so while keeping one eye looking past 95-96.
Roy
poelzerd
>
>
Yes Roy Vernon is that bad. He hasn't won anything for anybody. I know Calgary in 1989, but look at the road through the playoffs in '89 (ie didn't beat anyone)
He didn't win a playoff game for Detroit this year by himself (any playoff run needs that) and he is the most selfish player in the dressing room that you will ever see. He has no interest or ability to work with a young goalie. Better to get rid of a small, reflex, aging goalie while he still may be worth something to someone.
ellen
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In article <40sbgp$e...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, rg...@aol.com (RGBol) says:
>
>I just don't see letting Primeau, 6' 6" 220#, young and comming into his
>own go, at a time when size is becoming one of the most important things
>in the leauge. For all the hype, the golie situation in Detroit is far
>from bad. Yes, Vernon had a few bad games in the playoffs, and Osgood is
>just almost there, but not quite ready for 60 plus games at the one spot.
>But as far as a veteran at goalie and someone to help Osgood along, we
>won't do much better then Vernon, and to do so in my opinion isn't worth
>sending Primeau somewhere, anywhere that he could help win several cups
>against the Wings.
>
'Ya know, I agree. Keith is valuable if for no other reason, his size.
Da' Devils outplayed the Wings because they had such big players. Not
better ones.... bigger ones. Look at Yzerman and Fedorov and Kozlov,
they are good players, but they are not physically punishing BIG players.
The Wings need more muscle. Not goons, mind you. Just good players who
like Mr. Primeau, happen to be BIG.
-ellen
Jason Carter
>
>I just don't see letting Primeau, 6' 6" 220#, young and comming into his
>own go, at a time when size is becoming one of the most important things
>in the leauge. For all the hype, the golie situation in Detroit is far
>from bad. Yes, Vernon had a few bad games in the playoffs, and Osgood is
>just almost there, but not quite ready for 60 plus games at the one spot.
>But as far as a veteran at goalie and someone to help Osgood along, we
>won't do much better then Vernon, and to do so in my opinion isn't worth
>sending Primeau somewhere, anywhere that he could help win several cups
>against the Wings.
>
>we all want it now, I think going all out to win next year at the expence
>of the next five or ten years isn't worth it. We have the stars, Federov,
>Coffy, Yzerman, etc, and good young players, sure changes here and there
>won't hurt, but we need to do so while keeping one eye looking past 95-96.
>
>Roy
Getting Hasek would be a mistake. He's already thirty and he's gunna a cost
us a great player or two. If Detroit thinks that they need a goalie besides
Osgood, they should trade for Ranford(and if that fails, get Cujo).
But i think the team should go with Osgood for a good portion of the season
and then assess the goaltending situation.
Ray Sheppard must be traded. He still is worth something and we all know
he is invisable in the playoffs.
Premeau, Lidstrom, Federov, Osgood and M. Lapoint should remain on the
team as they are the five players make up the core of the Redwings future.
Even though my favorite player is Stevie Y and i desperately want to see him
win a cup in Detroit, it would be in the TEAMS best interest to trade him
now. Him and Sheppard traded would bring a fair bit in return(Hopefully
something we need).
I still hope they dont trade Yzerman.
I would be interested to know what other fans think what/who we need to win
the cup. My vote is a bigger/physical defense, and some size/heart up
front.
Jason C Bau
: us a great player or two. If Detroit thinks that they need a goalie besides
: Osgood, they should trade for Ranford(and if that fails, get Cujo).
: But i think the team should go with Osgood for a good portion of the season
: and then assess the goaltending situation.
Getting Hasek would get you a cup though....
if you want one now, he's the way to go....
otherwise, go with Osgood, and see what he can do....
If you want future cup(s) then go with Osgood and keep the young talent
also they could sign me and that would help too ( hehehehe, anyway!)
there ya go
-me