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angela lambert

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Feb 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/23/98
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The ECHL has turned into a circus ! First that nasty incident
Involving Pee Dee and P-cola** and now this !! Tonight in Birmingham ,
in a game plagued by bad calls / lack of calls and cheap shots , there
was a total loss of control on & off the ice !!! A nasty hit between
Charlotte Checker Eric Bolton and Birmingham Bull Garry Gulash made a
heated game even hotter. The gloves came off and it was an ugly fight.
Tempers flared and Bolton actually head butted Gulash !! So they were
pulled apart & placed in the box, but they were both so disorderly the
ref sent them out. Here is where it really gets wild.
Bolton & Gulash meet OFF ICE and duke it out !! The officials are
skating around in circles, both teams are gathered at the hall watching
this fight ,for 3 or 4 minutes and the game is delayed for another five
minutes at least.. Paramedics reported that Bolton took a stick and
tryed to bash Gulash over the head but Gulash held his arm up to shield
himself & Bolton connected with his arm instead. Rumor has it that
Gulash may have a broken arm. The officials made a weak attempt to
restore order tonight but to no avail. What happened tonight is simply
unacceptable.These kind of incidents really reflect the lack of control
at games. As I said , its mass mayhem in the East Coast Hockey
League.

Jay

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Feb 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/23/98
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Hockey is a tough, physical sport, as it should be, but the lack of respect
and sportsmanship displayed by some teams in this league is pathetic. I
think it should be up to the coaches to not tolerate this kind of behavior
from thier players. Unfortunately it is often the coaches which encourage
it.

Jay... Go Pilots!

In article <6cr3np$eo7$1...@newsd-112.bryant.webtv.net>, A...@webtv.net (angela
lambert) wrote:

--
go Pilots!

Robb North

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Feb 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/24/98
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--

The officials are
> skating around in circles,

What do you mean by this?

ECHL Gal

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Feb 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/24/98
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<<<Tonight in Birmingham , in a game plagued by bad calls / lack of calls and
cheap shots , there was a total loss of control on & off the ice !!!>>>

Bad calls???? I think not. That was one of the best displays of officiating we
have seen all year!!!!!!! Paul Mariconda NEVER lost control of that game.

<<<< The officials are skating around in circles, both teams are gathered at


the hall watching this fight ,for 3 or 4 minutes and the game is delayed for
another five minutes at least.>>>>

WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! Get your facts straight. The officials did not skate
around. If you noticed, referee Paul Mariconda stood in front of the door to
keep the players from going into the hall. He was afraid that there would be a
bench clearing. One linesman stood by the Bulls and the other by the
Checkers......just to be safe. The game was NOT delayed very long AT ALL....2
minutes tops.

<<< The officials made a weak attempt to restore order tonight but to no
avail.>>>

So, I guess the few penalties that were called after the incident reflect that
order was never restored, right??


<<< What happened tonight is simply unacceptable.These kind of incidents really
reflect the lack of control at games. As I said , its mass mayhem in the
East Coast Hockey League.>>>>

It doesnt reflect the lack of control of games, but a lack of maturity and
control on the players part.......not the officials. You can blame the referees
all you want to, but there is no ground for you to stand on.

And before you post again, I suggest that you get the real story and the facts.
You make it sound like the game was a complete slugfest. Maybe in the hallway
to the lockerrooms, but not really that much on the ice.

angela lambert

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Feb 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/24/98
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In the first place, to get off the ice the door has to be opened from
the outside of the ice. Did your beloved Paul really need to be hall
monitor? In the second place , skating in circles is a figure of speech,
I didn"t mean to confuse you . One thing is true, the players do need
to learn how to control themselves. I guess beloved Paul was to busy
worrying about kids running in the hallway to call the hit on Belanger
after he scored the last goal. Thanks for your comment, it really made
my day.

angela lambert

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Feb 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/24/98
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Let it be known, the response to the echlgal was not written by
main web user. It was I the bastard in section 3.

RD WHY NOT

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Feb 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/25/98
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Dear ECHL Gal,

Did you have blinders on at the game?.... or are you Paul Mariconda's main
squeeze? He did not have "Control" of the game as you put it... Go all the
way back to the first period, or were you at the hotdog stand?
The sticking and jawing started then and the calls simply weren't made then and
that led to the mayhem "A39" spoke of.... If a ref calls a clean game from the
start, he can keep order on the ice... If he lets the tension build and
build... He's looking for trouble... That's what happened to Mr. Mariconda (I
found out his name after my post, which you corrected BTW) Ref's have good
nights and bad nights... Paul had a not so good one Sunday night..... Just my
$0.02 worth!

Russell
Go Bulls!!!!!!

Monte Porche

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Feb 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/25/98
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angela lambert wrote in message <6cr3np$eo7$1...@newsd-112.bryant.webtv.net>...


>>A nasty hit between Charlotte Checker Eric Bolton and Birmingham

>>Bull Garry Gulash made a heated game even hotter. .

Gulash involved in a nasty fight? I'm shocked.... (gee, I hope that didn't
sound
too sarcastic)...actually, though, I thought he would have calmed down after
he took a cheap shot at the Brass' team captain last weekend, and our team
lined up. It sounded like they took numbers, and waited their turn to pound
on
him....

I hope he's not too seriously injured though. He definitely does make the
contests here in New Orleans that much more exciting, and they're gonna
be here Friday nite.

As far as the off ice incident...there was a similar one in New Orleans
earlier
in the season, but I don't recall who was involved. Basically, our guy was
sent
off, and as he headed to the locker room, the other team's player jumped him
from behind (reportedly)..as they scrapped in the hallway, another player
came
out of the other team's locker room and joined in. A vendor at a nearby
concession
stand tried to break it up while security was called.

Kris K

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Feb 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/25/98
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angela lambert wrote:
>
> Let it be known, the response to the echlgal was not written by
> main web user. It was I the bastard in section 3.


ECHL Gal and Poff need to get a clue. The officiating in the ECHL sucks.

I could not believe that there was not a call after the Belanger goal.
That was just one of many missed calls that night. As biased and slack as
the league officials are, I doubt that there will be any action against
the Charlotte player that tried to smack Gulash in the head with his
stick.

GO BULLS!
Another fan in section 3

mo...@tchq.com

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Feb 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/25/98
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In article <6crb7n$f...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>,

eure...@worldnet.nospamjerk.att.net (Jay) wrote:
>
> Hockey is a tough, physical sport, as it should be, but the lack of respect
> and sportsmanship displayed by some teams in this league is pathetic. I
> think it should be up to the coaches to not tolerate this kind of behavior
> from thier players. Unfortunately it is often the coaches which encourage
> it.

Well, if we're gonna play that game, then we need to blame
the most repsonsible people....the fans. If you say the coaches
encourage this, it's only because that's what puts butts in the
seats.

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Mysticks 1

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Feb 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/25/98
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>
> In the first place, to get off the ice the door has to be opened from
>the outside of the ice

Maybe you have never noticed but every rink I have ever been in has a latch on
the inside. The players usually use the end of their sticks to open it since
their gloves won't fit. It is on the top of the boards on the door and pushes
downward inside the door. ( like the door handles on some Corvettes).
Mysticks 1

Mysticks 1

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Feb 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/25/98
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>Dear ECHL Gal,
>
>Did you have blinders on at the game?.... or are you Paul Mariconda's main
>squeeze?

If you pull up the profile on ECHL Gal through AOL, you will see the following:

Hobbies: Let's see...they wear black & white stripes, helmets, carry
whistles, wear ice skates...any questions?

Does that answer your question??? In my opinion, anyone who list referees as
their hobby is not capable of an unbiased opinion of the officials.


Mysticks 1

Jay

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Feb 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/25/98
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In article <6d1s90$naq$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, mo...@tchq.com wrote:

> In article <6crb7n$f...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>,
> eure...@worldnet.nospamjerk.att.net (Jay) wrote:
> >
> > Hockey is a tough, physical sport, as it should be, but the lack of respect
> > and sportsmanship displayed by some teams in this league is pathetic. I
> > think it should be up to the coaches to not tolerate this kind of behavior
> > from thier players. Unfortunately it is often the coaches which encourage
> > it.
>
> Well, if we're gonna play that game, then we need to blame
> the most repsonsible people....the fans. If you say the coaches
> encourage this, it's only because that's what puts butts in the
> seats.

I still disagree. In Pensacola there has been an average of 6,980 butts in
the seats without this kind of crap going on. In Charleston there have
been an average of just over 7,000 without that type of team. And
Louisianna has an average of over 11,000 at home where they don't do this
type of stuff (for some reason they feel that they can get road wins out of
Pensacola by resorting to "goon" tactics but havn't played the Pilots like
that in LA all season.) In the last few years much of the ECHL's growth
has parralleled the leagues attemp to make it a much cleaner league, far
removed from the "goon squads" that it used to occupy it. So who's to
blame? I still think its the crap coaches and organizations who tolerate
and/or encourage it. By the way I don't mean fighting, I'm speaking of the
cheap shots with sticks and fists, chickenshit players jumping other
players from behind, fighting in the tunnels etc. etc. etc...

--
go Pilots!

RD WHY NOT

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Feb 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/26/98
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Kris... Where in section 3?... We are the big group three rows off the glass.
I agree with you about the Belanger hit... That was definately a cheap shot....
Angie said I should put it in my post... Which got no response :-( Her's got
all the action... Come down and say hello at the next home game... I'm the big
guy with the goatee on row "C"

RD WHY NOT

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Feb 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/26/98
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At the BJCC the doors all open from off the ice... They have a latch that
slides across from the outside on all the doors.... The player entrances kept
coming open on checks....

DONDog69

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Feb 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/26/98
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Speaking of cheap shots, has anyone heard about the Baton Rouge player than
took a cheap shot on the knee of N.O. brass star Jeff Lazaro? Lazaro was on a
breakaway, and was very close to getting off a shot when the Kingfish player
slashed him right above the knee, causing Lazaro to miss the rest of the game,
and possibly miss the game this Friday night, although it is reported that
Lazaro is fine now with only minor pain in his knee. The Brass have submitted
this play to the ECHL for review as it is was an obvious intentional attempt to
hurt Lazaro. What a poor way to play!!!!!!

Don
GO BRASS!!!!!!!!!!!

William Burke

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Feb 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/26/98
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In article <01bd40dc$27ed7c60$e64d06d0@default>, "Robb North"
<n...@mnsi.net> wrote:

> --

>
> The officials are
> > skating around in circles,
>

> What do you mean by this?

I imagine he meant they were skating around in circles.

--
"I'm going back to the wagon, boys. These shoes are killing me."
--Whitey Ford, The Duke of Paducah

Poff TCB

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Feb 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/27/98
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>Louisianna has an average of over 11,000 at home where they don't do this
>type of stuff (for some reason they feel that they can get road wins out of
>Pensacola by resorting to "goon" tactics but havn't played the Pilots like
>that in LA all season.)

You are banned from being a Pilots fan. Lack of knowledge is the reason. Just
look at the ECHL penalty statistics. The Gators take more major, 10 minute,
and game misconducts than anyone. They have the league leader in penalty
minutes, and average more minutes per game than any other ECHL team.

Come back when you learn some more.

Poff

Jay

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Feb 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/27/98
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In article <19980227045...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, pof...@aol.com
(Poff TCB) wrote:

Knowledge? Oh, my mistake. You are the hockey knowledge god. I guess
I'll just use penalty minute stats to judge a team instead of my own eyes
and ears. You should be banned from being a hockey fan until you grow up
and stop using "goon newsgroup" tactics and insulting everyone who has a
different opinion than you. You make me ashamed to be a Pilots fan because
others here may think I share many of your assenine opinions. Oh, and I
bet that was you fighting in the stands behind sect. 109 a couple weeks
back.

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go Pilots!

Chele1032

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Feb 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/27/98
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Poff,
Get over the Goon thing! In last nights game, there where only six (6) 2
minute penalties. No Majors, No Fighting, against the Gators. Maybe on the
24th when they play ya'll you will see for yourself.

Poff TCB

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Feb 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/27/98
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>Knowledge? Oh, my mistake. You are the hockey knowledge god. I guess
>I'll just use penalty minute stats to judge a team instead of my own eyes
>and ears. You should be banned from being a hockey fan until you grow up
>and stop using "goon newsgroup" tactics and insulting everyone who has a
>different opinion than you. You make me ashamed to be a Pilots fan because
>others here may think I share many of your assenine opinions.

You must have mised the forst part of the message. You are no loner considered
a Pilots fan.

If the Ice Goons are such a group of pacifists, what were all those 5 minute,
10 minute, and game Misconduct penalties called for?

(Sound of clock ticking)

hint: They lead the league in these categories

(jeopardy theme playing)

Maybe you are right. Maybe EVERY oficial picks on them in ALMOST (for
chele1032) every game. Maybe.

This is not MY opinion. It is the opinion of the Referees. i don't hand out
penalty minutes. They do.

PILOTS RULE

Mysticks 1

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Feb 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/27/98
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> You make me ashamed to be a Pilots fan because
>>others here may think I share many of your assenine opinions.
>
>You must have mised the forst part of the message. You are no loner
>considered
>a Pilots fan.
>
>If the Ice Goons are such a group of pacifists, what were all those 5 minute,
>10 minute, and game Misconduct penalties called for?
>
>
I think that both you should go back and look how ridiculous your previous
posts have been. What difference should it make to 2 Icepilots fans if
Louisiana leads the team in penalty minutes?? That has nothing to do with who
wins the division or the cup for that matter. Since as of today, Pensacola
leads Louisiana by only 1 point in the standings, it seems you should put all
this energy into commenting on your teams performance and cheering them on to a
division title instead of bickering amongst yourselves.

Mysticks 1

Chele1032

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Feb 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/28/98
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WHO ASKED YOU?

RD WHY NOT

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Feb 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/28/98
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Can't we all just get along and hope that New Orleans dosen't sneak up on us
all and bite our asses?

Russell
Go Bulls!!!

Richard Leithman

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Feb 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/28/98
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Well we had a healthy serving of Bull butt tonight. Talked with some
B-ham fans at the game...class acts, Real nice guys even after the 2nd
period. Thanks for coming and hope you all had a nice time here.THANKS
for the Whopper! Hope you enjoy New Orleans...
--
Richard Leithman
laga...@bellsouth.net
Aircraft Maintenance Technician, New Orleans, La
GO BLACKHAWKS GO BRASS

Mysticks 1

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Feb 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/28/98
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>WHO ASKED YOU?

Nobody did nor has to, I gave that advice for free.
Mysticks 1

SouthOfI10

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Feb 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/28/98
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>>Louisianna has an average of over 11,000 at home where they don't do this
>>type of stuff (for some reason they feel that they can get road wins out of
>>Pensacola by resorting to "goon" tactics but havn't played the Pilots like
>>that in LA all season.)
>
>You are banned from being a Pilots fan. Lack of knowledge is the reason.
>Just
>look at the ECHL penalty statistics. The Gators take more major, 10 minute,
>and game misconducts than anyone. They have the league leader in penalty
>minutes, and average more minutes per game than any other ECHL team.
>
>Come back when you learn some more.
>
>Poff


Perhaps in your crusade to become the most arrogant and uninformed member of
thisnewsgroup, you've missed the following stats. So buckle your seatbelt and
open your mind and ears:

--LA ranks SEVENTEENTH (as of 2/26/98) in the league in the amount of power
plays they've given opponents....17th out of 25 teams. Now, I'm sure you're
asking yourself (being the "open-minded, inquisitive" type you are...): "why is
this?" Well, here's why: the IceGators are experts at goading their opponents
into taking penalties. More often than not, when an IceGator goes to the box,
he takes someone in opposition colors with him.
--LA ranks FIFTH (2/26/98) in man advantages...this only furthers the point
that they are masters in drawing penalties...but of course, being the
"knowledgeable" guy you are about hockey, you probably knew that, right? not.
--LA opponents are averaging almost 5 more PIMs per game, in head-to-head
comparisons, than the IceGators. I'll say that another way so it can
penetrate the wall of idiocy around your cerebrum: IceGator opponents take an
average of over 5 PIMs per game (when facing the IceGators) more than do the
IceGators.

Statistics don't lie, and don't require any trash talk to substantiate them.
Only uninformed, verbose blowhards need to resort to that.

Poff TCB

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>--LA ranks SEVENTEENTH (as of 2/26/98) in the league in the amount of power
>plays they've given opponents....17th out of 25 teams. Now, I'm sure you're
>asking yourself (being the "open-minded, inquisitive" type you are...): "why
>is
>this?" Well, here's why: the IceGators are experts at goading their
>opponents
>into taking penalties. More often than not, when an IceGator goes to the
>box,
>he takes someone in opposition colors with him.

Me stupid? Nowhere in my post did I menion MINOR penalties, now did I. That
is where you get 2 minute penalties that result in power plays. I don't know
where you got the rest of your statistics, but since you didn't include an
internet address, chances are you made them up.

Hockey 101:

2 minute penalties result in power plays. 5 minute, 10 minute, and game
misconducts don't.

So maybe EVERY other team in the league picks on the Gators. Or was that every
other kid in school picking on you?

PILOTS RULE

POFF

SouthOfI10

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Mar 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/2/98
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>Me stupid?


NOWHERE in my post did I call you stupid. Perhaps you are simply feeling that
way about yourself these days...

>Nowhere in my post did I menion MINOR penalties, now did I.

I never said you did. What I attempted to convey to you (apparently you are
the ONLY person on this n.g. that doesn't get it) was that you are not seeing
the forest for the trees. Sure, the Gators lead the ECHL in total PIMs.
However they are 17th in man disadvantage opportunities. If only you'd use
your intellect instead of your emotions to examine the stats closely, you'd see
what I'm talking about.

>I don't know
>where you got the rest of your statistics, but since you didn't include an
>internet address, chances are you made them up.

My stats come from the ECHL's very own daily release (which I gave the date of
in my original post). I am able to obtain a copy of these stats before every
home game.

Further, I don't need to make up any stats to show how completely hockey
illiterate you are. You do a fine job of that yourself.

>So maybe EVERY other team in the league picks on the Gators. Or was that
>every
>other kid in school picking on you?

They don't "pick" on the Gators--they try to match them at the "rough and
tumble" style of hockey, and wind up overdoing it. Thus the disparity in power
plays/penalty kills per game.

As for your last statement, this only goes to further my earlier statement that
your quest to be the most arrogant and ignorant poster to this newsgroup has
been fully accomplished. You may now crown yourself "King Nothing."


http://www.inthecrease.com/

Geaux Gators!!

Lesley

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Mar 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/2/98
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Poff TCB wrote in message <19980302041...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...

>Hockey 101:
>
>2 minute penalties result in power plays. 5 minute, 10 minute, and game
>misconducts don't.
>

>>PILOTS RULE
>
>POFF

5 minute penalties can result in power plays. Have you never heard of a 5
minute major for high sticking or elbowing. It comes with an automatic game
misconduct.

Go Sea Wolves!!
Lesley


roy bearden

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Mar 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/2/98
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I have to admit one thing the Icegators are VERY good at pissing
other people off. Its all part of the game.
What ever happen to Aron Boh?

bastardinsection3
GO BULLS!!!

roy bearden

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Mar 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/2/98
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If you think about it, doesn't it make sense to take someone else
with you if you are going to get a penalty?
bastardinsection3

Chele1032

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Mar 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/3/98
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Aaron Boh is playing in the CHL.

Bub71

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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>2 minute penalties result in power plays. 5 minute, 10 minute, and game
>misconducts don't.

Your wrong too 5 min majors do result in a power play. Only 2 and 5 and on
occation a 4 min double minor do result in a power play.

Ice Gators RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Signed,
The biggest Hockey and Icegator fan in the world!

Jade6809

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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ONLY if it's a major, a 5 minute fighting does not result in a powerplay.

AJ Thompson

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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You can also recieve a five minute major for slashing, high sticking,
and charging. When any five minute major occurs the penilized team's
player can not leave the box for any reason. That includes a goal. The
team with the man advantage can score 100 goals and the the player must
stay in the box.

AJ

Congatulations Brass on a huge win in Baton Rouge tonight.

Bub71

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98
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>ONLY if it's a major, a 5 minute fighting does not result in a powerplay.

I know only like a 5 min major for bording or a check in which blood is drawn.


S.D. Rhodes

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98
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> ONLY if it's a major, a 5 minute fighting does not result in a powerplay.

A 5-minute fighting penalty *does* result in a power play in the rare
instances where it is not matched by a fighting penalty on the other
team. It happened earlier this season in Raleigh.

Bub71

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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>Congatulations Brass on a huge win in Baton Rouge tonight.

yea congrats on beating a team that sucks worse than the brass.


Signed,
The biggest Icegator fan in the world
#71


DONDog69

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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>yea congrats on beating a team that sucks worse than the brass.
>
>
>Signed,
>The biggest Icegator fan in the world
>#71


Shouldn't that be: Signed The biggest LOSER in the world #71?

I think you comment was uncalled for and very rude. I'm quite sure that fans
like you are the reason that the Gators are the most hated team in the ECHL.
Any team in the ECHL is capable of beating another on any given night. Even
teams with a worst record than the team they are playing are capable of beating
the supposedly better team. At the time, BR was on a winning streak, and the
Brass were not playing all that well, so I think the post was to the point and
was only there to congratulate the Brass on a much needed win. I fail to see
the reason for your rude self to stick your nose in with your childish
comments. But then again, I'm quite sure you are just a little brat who
doesn't know any better.

Don

GO BRASS!!!!!!!

Richard Leithman

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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Bub71 wrote:
>
> >Congatulations Brass on a huge win in Baton Rouge tonight.
>
> yea congrats on beating a team that sucks worse than the brass.
>
> Signed,
> The biggest Icegator fan in the world
> #71

Oh my word, what a profound statement coming out of that smelly
$hit-hole of a town in southwest Louisiana.. What a blowhard. Your sig
file sould read "biggest @ss in the world" Dont clutter up this list
with your garbage. Do us all a favor and save it.

Jade6809

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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Oh, my, Don, I didn't know you thought we were the most hated team, much less
agree. I don't think anyone but Baton Rouge and the Louisiana IceGators can
possibly understand how much we dislike each other as teams. I would rather
see any team from the Southwest, or Southeast in the playoffs. The reason being
I attended one game in Baton Rouge, and swore I would never go back. Let's
see, we had snow cones thrown at us, fans come up to us and verbally attack us,
beer poured on us, shall I go on and on and on............Anyway, whether we
are the most hated or not, right at this moment we are NUMBER 1 in the league.
In the end, all that matters is who wins that division, conference banner,
Brabham and Kelly cup.

Mysticks 1

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>I would rather
>see any team from the Southwest, or Southeast in the playoffs. The reason
>being
>I attended one game in Baton Rouge, and swore I would never go back. Let's
>see, we had snow cones thrown at us, fans come up to us and verbally attack
>us,
>beer poured on us, shall I go on and on and on...........

Our Mysticks booster club took a bus to a Baton Rouge game and had a wonderful
time there. The fans near us were very nice and we had a lot of " fun"
rivalry during the game. We had nothing thrown at us and no verbal attacks.
I had a couple tell me to have a safe trip home as we were leaving. In my
opinion visiting fans who go into another arena expecting trouble will find it.
You stated that the rivalry between your two teams is different so
obviously that was the basis for the treatment you received. You didn't state
what your fans were doing during the game, could your behaviour there have been
described as angelic??
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Jade6809

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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This happened in the first season of the Baton Rouge teams existence. My
husband and I were sitting alone with no other fans from the IceGators, and
where minding our own business.
We did not even get up and chomp when our team scored

A petition was signed after that first game, by over 500 IceGator fans and was
sent to the Kingfish organization about the treatment of not only the fans but
also of the team,(beer was poured over the glass onto our players). I have
heard that treatment of fans has improved, but frankly I will not give another
penny of my hard earned money to the Kingfish organization.

I am glad that you had a pleasant experience there, but, I can assure you that
my experience had nothing to do with OUR(my husband and I) behavior .

I might add that whenever I speak to someone on a regular basis and they make a
trip to the CajunDome I always make an effort to meet the person and make them
feel welcome.

So don't question my integrity!!!!!!

Jade

DONDog69

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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>Oh, my, Don, I didn't know you thought we were the most hated team, much less
>agree.

Sorry Jade, but that was meant to show how ignorant that guy is who posted his
little childish remarks about the Brass sucking.

>The reason being
>I attended one game in Baton Rouge, and swore I would never go back.

I too have attended a game in BR and swore that I'd never go back. The fans
there are whiney and rude.

>Anyway, whether we
>are the most hated or not, right at this moment we are NUMBER 1 in the
>league.

I certainly realize that the Gators are a grat team and that they are number
one in theleague, but ont he other hand, if they were last in the league, I
don't think you'd see any Brass fans on here saying Big deal on beating a team
that sucks worst than you do, like the original poster stated.

>Oh my word, what a profound statement coming out of that smelly
>>$hit-hole of a town in southwest Louisiana.. What a blowhard. Your sig
>>file sould read "biggest @ss in the world" Dont clutter up this list
>>with your garbage. Do us all a favor and save it.
>
>

Now, this I did not say, but I do agree with Rich about the original poster
being an a$$.


Hope this clears it up.

Don

GO BRASS!!!!!!!!!!

Mysticks 1

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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>So don't question my integrity!!!!!!
>
>

I wasn't questioning your integrity, just asking a simple question. I have
been to several different arena's in the league and seen fans from all team's
visiting Mobile. We have had quite a few fans visit that were downright
obnoxious and beyond rude. I have seen visiting fans throwing the bird along
with the accompanying language in the direction of a bunch of children. I have
seen visiting fans start trouble in other ways also. We have also met some
very nice visiting fans. You stated in your post that you heard things had
changed in Baton Rouge and that the incident you described happened in the
first year. That should be considered past history and you should visit Baton
Rouge again before condemning them. I have heard the same things said of the
Icegator fans although you stated that you try to make everyone feel welcome.
Would you want to be judged for the actions of others??
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SouthOfI10

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>I think you comment was uncalled for and very rude. I'm quite sure that fans
>like you are the reason that the Gators are the most hated team in the ECHL.

I would hope that you don't lump all IceGator fans into the same boat with this
person. Not all of us are devoid of tact and the ability to be graceful
winners.

I fail to see
>the reason for your rude self to stick your nose in with your childish
>comments. But then again, I'm quite sure you are just a little brat who
>doesn't know any better.

I agree wholeheartedly.


Signed,
An IceGator fan who puts decency over loyalty to fellow fans of his team

SouthOfI10

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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>Oh my word, what a profound statement coming out of that smelly
>$hit-hole of a town in southwest Louisiana.. What a blowhard. Your sig
>file sould read "biggest @ss in the world" Dont clutter up this list
>with your garbage. Do us all a favor and save it.

While I agree that his post was thoroughly laden with ignorance, I find yours
to be of equal value. Perhaps less so, because on one hand you rightfully
chide him for his idiotic statement, and then on the other hand you make one of
your own.


DONDog69

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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> would hope that you don't lump all IceGator fans into the same boat with
>this
>person. Not all of us are devoid of tact and the ability to be graceful
>winners.

I certainly do not lump all Gator fans in this group. I have talked to a few
people that are very cool. Jade comes to mind right off the bat. I realize
that he is not the model fan upon which other fans are to be judged, that's why
I stated "Fans like you", which automatically excludes anyone who's not like
him.

>I agree wholeheartedly.

OH NO, Once again a Brass fan and a Gator fan are agreeing on something, there
is complete chaos in Louisiana this week!!! LOL (Just a little jibe for Jade).
I'm looking forward to our trip over to Lafayette this Saturday, hopefully we
can solve the mystery of beating the Gators. hey, we've beat y'all once in
your backyard, maybe we can do it again. One can wish, can't he? LOL

Don

GO BRASS!!!!!!!!!

Gregg G

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'...one can wish can't he?'

Yeah..I'm wishing, and praying, and hoping, and crossing all of my
fingers and toes and unmentionables and even things you wouldn't think
can cross....we could use a couple of nice wins against the 'Gators to
close out a great inaugural season for the Brass.

-
Gregg G.
Bras...@webtv.net
"You know, there's a million fine-looking women in the world, but they
don't all bring you lasagne at work. Most of them just cheat on you."
--- Silent Bob (Clerks)

Bub71

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>Oh, my, Don, I didn't know you thought we were the most hated team, much less
>agree. I don't think anyone but Baton Rouge and the Louisiana IceGators can
>possibly understand how much we dislike each other as teams. I would rather
>see any team from the Southwest, or Southeast in the playoffs. The reason
>being

>I attended one game in Baton Rouge, and swore I would never go back. Let's
>see, we had snow cones thrown at us, fans come up to us and verbally attack
>us,
>beer poured on us, shall I go on and on and on............Anyway, whether we

>are the most hated or not, right at this moment we are NUMBER 1 in the
>league.
>In the end, all that matters is who wins that division, conference banner,
>Brabham and Kelly cup.

I agree I traveled with the gatro fans to a La/BR game and i hated it their
fans are so ugly to everybody. I also agree we are the #1 team and noone can
change that all other fans out their might as well hang it up cause the kelly
cup is commin home.

Doug Bonner Rulz #71


Jade6809

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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Hey, Don, I have been out of the loop here for awhile, but I hope you don't
take offense but wishing is just not going to help. LOL.
I assume from some of the comments you all where talking about Captain Jack,
well for my 2 cents, he is trash!!!! I am sure my world is going to get rocked
for saying that but sometimes the truth hurts.
In my life, I have never tried to take on a car, although I am a very big girl,
so this whole story doesn't wash, but you can't make people do the right thing.
I think since everbody seems to think that we should chalk all this up to a BIG
MISTAKE in his life, that we should let some of the prisoners out of jail,
afterall, I am sure there acts where just mistakes also, LET EM GO!!! Sorry,
just had to vent there for a second.
See you at tonights game, Don.

Jade


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