NOTICE - Please read
John Thornley
This post concerns the person, sotw...@mindspring.com (Ray Gordon)
alias Gordon Roy Parker aka Ray. I list his personal details at the
bottom of this post but the thrust of this post concerns his
activities on the internet and in particular AOL as well as his
psychological profile. As a reference, I am a registered professional
hypno-psychotherapist practicing in the UK.
Gordon Roy Parker posts and chats as a vile, viscious person, seeking
to inflict pain and suffering on those who he contacts. He lurks in
chat rooms inventing fallicies and accusations of anyone he latches on
to. This is his pathetic, sad life and if it affected no one else, it
could be ignored, but this isn't the case. He has affected, is
affecting and will go on affecting the lives of people who do not
deserve his attentions, unless something is done.
I urge you to consider three things in this matter.
1) If you don't want to be involved in this matter, and I don't blame
you, do nothing, that is, do not even bother to read his posts, and
certainly, this is even easier, do not reply to them under any
circumstances, no matter how tempting it is to right a wrong, just let
it go.
2) If you DO read his posts but don't want to do anything, then do
nothing either, See 1).
3) If you do read his posts but want to make a difference, examine his
posts carefully. If you find something offensive or unacceptable then
contact your ISP and HIS ISP (AOL) and complain. Alternatively or
additionally, you could email him and tell him what you think
yourself.
His posting history shows a serious psychotic disorder. He claimed in
the past that his problem was diagnosed as Bipolar, (aka
manic depression), but over the many many months, my professional
opinion and that of others on this group differs, possibly BPD.
Obviously the details are not that important. If the effects of his
behaviour were not no horrid, the man could be pitied.
As far as item 3 (above) goes, Ray keeps losing accounts and then
gets a new one after aol have removed the first one. Obviously AOL
need to have their attention drawn to this.
Almost finally, to illustrate, I have included a transcript of a
conversation with him on an aol chat room. I looked at these
carefully to see if I could publish them verbatim and at the same time
hide the identities of the innocent parties, but I have had to
completely remove some segments as they are almost unreadable after
censorship. Therefore I shall include a few soundbites. These are
genuine;
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DMIsAHussy: I'm about to destroy someone because of all of you
DMIsAHussy: A girl who's sex life is about to be made public
DMIsAHussy: When her father finds out he's gonna kill her
DMIsAHussy: Because you guys say I'm lousy
DMIsAHussy: But don't blame me
DMIsAHussy: I've been provoked one too many times
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DMIsAHussy: On the count of 3, you will all hate your dad
DMIsAHussy: 1
DMIsAHussy: 2
DMIsAHussy: 3!
DMIsAHussy: On the count of five, you'll XXXXXXXXXXXXX(CENSORED)
DMIsAHussy: 1
DMIsAHussy: 2
DMIsAHussy: 3
DMIsAHussy: 4
DMIsAHussy: 5!
DMIsAHussy: I hate cowards
DMIsAHussy: Like XXXX
DMIsAHussy: Such a big mouth but no backup
DMIsAHussy: And that other guy who threatened me today?
DMIsAHussy: Such a shame
DMIsAHussy: XXXX will be busy XXXX
DMIsAHussy: And XXXX
OnlineHost: NNNNNNNN has left the room.
DMIsAHussy: And XXXX....
OnlineHost: NNNNNNNN has entered the room.
SNIP
OnlineHost: NNNNNNNN has left the room.
DMIsAHussy: Some people have lives outside of work and don't need
to make friends in the office
DMIsAHussy: More like a pompous postering attitude where no real
decent work
gets dowwn
DMIsAHussy: done
SNIP
DMIsAHussy: They are little playthings according to XXXXX
DMIsAHussy: XXXX was bragging about doing them
SNIP
DMIsAHussy: And when your bosses find out about what you do to
your girls your job goes bye-bye
DMIsAHussy: Oh wait XXXX's also a COWARD
DMIsAHussy: XXXX can only go behind my back
DMIsAHussy: No guts
DMIsAHussy: Just sick WIMPS after me to threaten me
DMIsAHussy: Go ahead talk about me behind my back
SNIP
DMIsAHussy: I hate child abusers
DMIsAHussy: With a PASSION
DMIsAHussy: Excuse me while I post on USENET
DMIsAHussy: I'll say XXXX had no comment
DMIsAHussy: Of course not because XXXX's GUILTY AS SIN
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Finally, this post appeared on alt.hypnosis, targetted towards me.
>Without realizing it, you have mistakenly attacked some people who are in no
> way connected to me. You might be surprised to find out who they are. I know
> I wouldn't want to be in your shoes once they get wind of it. Ever see a case
> of mistaken identity, where you attack someone thinking they are the deserving
> target of your abuse but they were completely innocent? Your rage against me
> so blinded you to the truth that you have committed this mistake, and it's a
> grave one.
>
>I think the death of your daughter has totally corrupted your soul. I also
> should point out to you that chat logs are very easy to doctor, and totally
> inadmissible in any kind of formal proceeding.
>
>I would like "caring observers" of this newsgroup to arm me with as much
> information about Dr. Thornley as he has obtained by me. Just look at his
> post and you'll know where to send it. By the way, there are some people on
> that list you have named who will not appreciate your words, and those people
> have little or nothing to do with me. Or is it just an unfortunate
> consequence that a few innocent people get caught up in the crossfire?
>
>It's always a tragedy when a young child dies, dear Sir, but in your case I'd
> say that if the alternative is being raised by you, the Act of God may have
> spared her a miserable life. You are the most pathetic human being I have
> ever had the displeasure of coming across over my computer.
>
>Would you like to keep attacking me unjustly? Or could you at least admit your
> role in provoking me? No way, because you spin everything to suit your needs.
> That may play well online, but would you care to move to the United States
> and try this? I think not.
>
OK. Enough to make the point. the person concerned is;
True name: Gordon Roy Parker
4247 Locust Street Fairfax Apartments #806
Philadelphia PA 19104
(215) 386-7366
A "business" address at Mailboxes Etc.: 3741 Walnut St. Suite 411
Philadelphia PA 19104
Think Tank Sports Line
In article <349a9897...@news.demon.co.uk>,
john.t...@hypno.demon.co.uk (John Thornley) wrote:
> True name: Gordon Roy Parker
> 4247 Locust Street Fairfax Apartments #806
> Philadelphia PA 19104
> (215) 386-7366
> A "business" address at Mailboxes Etc.: 3741 Walnut St. Suite 411
> Philadelphia PA 19104
would/could be world champion and that
he could make the US world champpions.
But he left their groups after his analyses
were ripped to shreds by good players.
So, when he decided to say he could
make the US world champion gymnasts,
he said he could have done it for chess,
but they are such geeks he couldn't stand
them.
Then this week he explained on gymnastics
groups how superior the chess players were
to gymnasts!
It was the soap opera groups on aol who
helped the gymnastics groups learn how
Parker would use many, many screen and
login names, some just to say how right
his known ids were in what they said.
He claims to be an investment advisor,
and world class sports gambling handi-
capper. It is on 'that' newsgroup that
he has been confronted for his slanderous
attack on all for-pay handicappers and
me in particular. This led to my being
informed my a number of folk about much
of his dealings, and to me finding so much
on my own as a consequence.
While I'm at it, I have no knowledge
per se one way or the other aboout a certain
gymnastics poster, but beware of how you interact
with alt.sports.gymnastics(.moceanu) poster
MJRB...@aol.com.
He may or may not be who he claims, and may
or not be Parker in disguise once again. So,
do something real to find out he is as he
claims; but note his fascination with Dominique
Moceanu (Parker's main target of e-stalking,
e-harassment, and e-abuse).
Note that Parker claims dominance as a main issue
for him, having posted an offering of instructions
on how to coerce female employees into sex, and on
how to lie etc as instruments in the abuse of young
women like Dominique and Jamie. This may tell us his
conscious motive for causing others the pain he does:
sexual gratification perhaps, which would explain
why his profile for his NoSexxDom says No Sex. The
sex act per se may be beyond him.
BTW, did anyone see who it was that started the
gymnastics.moceanu newsgroup?
BTW-2, folks. He just posted to rec.gambling.sports
his usual garbage about willing to tell truth about
how all his enemies are just lying because of un-
pleasant truths he has said about them.
How about posting your response to that on rgs?
Oren Webster
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Ray Gordon
Please forgive Dr. Thornley. A year ago, his newborn daughter chose
to return to God rather than be raised by his pathetic self.
Dr. Thornley, when he isn't busy trashing me on the internet with lies
that can easily be disproven, takes advantage of being outside the US
to repeatedly threaten my life.
You know, if this group wants to see me stop posting, one way to do it
would be to moderate a discussion regarding Tabitha's allegations
against me, which I can easily prove false. Might make for a more
interesting topic, don't you think? I mean if people actually
demanded real proof of what she said about me, her case against me
would crumble and there would be no way for her to deny it.
It's not that I expect anyone to do this, but it is a way to make
peace if anyone is interested.
Rockies235
>While I'm at it, I have no knowledge
>per se one way or the other aboout a certain
>gymnastics poster, but beware of how you interact
>with alt.sports.gymnastics(.moceanu) poster
>MJRB...@aol.com.
He's not MJRBummer. Don't inslut MJR like that.
Ray Gordon
rocki...@aol.com (Rockies235) wrote:
Your negative energy has been transferred directly into the knees of
Jaycie Phelps, which are undergoing surgery tomorrow.
Ian Thompson
From your description below he sounds like the MR.LOVERBOY who was
humiliated and ridiculed in alt.psychology.nlp
> He claims to be an investment advisor,
> and world class sports gambling handi-
> capper. It is on 'that' newsgroup that
> he has been confronted for his slanderous
> attack on all for-pay handicappers and
> me in particular. This led to my being
> informed my a number of folk about much
> of his dealings, and to me finding so much
> on my own as a consequence.
>
> While I'm at it, I have no knowledge
> per se one way or the other aboout a certain
> gymnastics poster, but beware of how you interact
> with alt.sports.gymnastics(.moceanu) poster
> MJRB...@aol.com.
>
Ian Thompson
I thought I told you to go home and have a wank. Or is even THAT beyond
your capabilities?
Perhaps you could simply shit your own pants so that you get an idea of the
effect you have on people.
Ray Gordon <sotw...@mindspring.com> wrote in article
<3496fa14...@news.mindspring.com>...
<blah blah>
> You know, if this group wants to see me stop posting, one way to do it
> would be to moderate a discussion regarding Tabitha's allegations
> against me, which I can easily prove false. Might make for a more
> interesting topic, don't you think? I mean if people actually
> demanded real proof of what she said about me, her case against me
> would crumble and there would be no way for her to deny it.
>
<blah blah and more crap>
MJRBummer
While I'm at it, I have no knowledge
per se one way or the other aboout a certain
gymnastics poster, but beware of how you interact
with alt.sports.gymnastics(.moceanu) poster
MJRB...@aol.com.
He may or may not be who he claims, and may
or not be Parker in disguise once again. So,
do something real to find out he is as he
claims; but note his fascination with Dominique
Moceanu (Parker's main target of e-stalking,
e-harassment, and e-abuse).
Note that Parker claims dominance as a main issue
for him, having posted an offering of instructions
on how to coerce female employees into sex, and on
how to lie etc as instruments in the abuse of young
women like Dominique and Jamie. This may tell us his
conscious motive for causing others the pain he does:
sexual gratification perhaps, which would explain
why his profile for his NoSexxDom says No Sex. The
sex act per se may be beyond him.
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Hey shithead get through your god damn skull!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not Ray "Captain
Pedophilia" Gordon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My "obsession" with Domi and Jamie is my act
for the web page!!!!!!!! In real life I respect them as athletes and am
appalled by Ray's posts about them!!!!!! If you want proof that I'm not Ray,
you asshole, then e-mail DClan...@aol.com or Boon...@aol.com
Ya and Think Tank (sort of ironic seeing as you can't think) fuck off!!!!
Boonastic
* If you want proof that I'm not Ray,
you asshole, then e-mail DClan...@aol.com or Boon...@aol.com *
Geez, this is sad when innocent people are being accused. Look you guys, I
know MJR and he is NOT Ray, okay? And unless you people have 100% absolute
proof of a SN that belongs to Ray, don't out it. This is like the fifth person
that I know personally that has been accused.
DiRGe0513
In article <OzjbqCQ-...@concentric.net>, Thnk...@concentric.net (Think
Tank Sports Line) writes:
>Note that Parker claims dominance as a main issue
>for him, having posted an offering of instructions
>on how to coerce female employees into sex, and on
>how to lie etc as instruments in the abuse of young
>women like Dominique and Jamie. This may tell us his
>conscious motive for causing others the pain
>he does: sexual gratification perhaps, which would explain
>why his profile for his NoSexxDom says No Sex. The
>sex act per se may be beyond him.
Naw ... it's hatred for his mother, displaced and generalized
onto all women which drives him. He wants to return all the
pain he imagines he's recieved ... and his imagination is
so twisted by his own narcissism that amount of pain would
be leathal to any human who fell under his "power"
He's a ticking time-bomb.
Ontology recapitulates Philology
Sic Itur, ad Astra
John Thornley
On Tue, 16 Dec 1997 22:03:47 GMT, sotw...@mindspring.com (Ray Gordon)
puked:
>Please forgive Dr. Thornley. A year ago, his newborn daughter chose
>to return to God rather than be raised by his pathetic self.
>
What you'll find Ray is that people with any degree of self awareness,
find ways to grow and overcome the pain and anguish which sometimes
comes to the door of of life. That's the difference between people
like me, and there are many others here like me, and people like you.
As the days go by I remember the days spent with my lovely daughter
with more and more fondness, as the pain of her going begins to recede
in the caring arms of acceptance. How much more dreadful it is for
you, who has to live with your own self, only to realise that those
who have been on the receiving end of your poison, have come to know
that the pure shit of Ray Parker, has nothing to do with his mental
illness, but is solely due to the fact that he really is a piece of
shit all the way through.
>Dr. Thornley, when he isn't busy trashing me on the internet with lies
>that can easily be disproven, takes advantage of being outside the US
>to repeatedly threaten my life.
>
Until such time as you disappear from the internet I shall continue to
repeat the truth about you, to ensure that those who come acroos you
for the first time, know from day one, what a pathetic pile of camel
shit you really are. Second thoughts, I prefer camel shit. (Sorry
camels).
In EVERY newsgroup and chat room you invade, you leave your foul
stench. No one who has read any of these posts has any doubt as to the
sort of person you are. As for threatening your life, Ray, you haven't
got one to threaten. You have the importance of navel lint.
>You know, if this group wants to see me stop posting, one way to do it
>would be to moderate a discussion regarding Tabitha's allegations
>against me, which I can easily prove false. Might make for a more
>interesting topic, don't you think? I mean if people actually
>demanded real proof of what she said about me, her case against me
>would crumble and there would be no way for her to deny it.
>
>It's not that I expect anyone to do this, but it is a way to make
>peace if anyone is interested.
>
Negotiating peace with you would be like trying to bargain with a
virus.
Now, go find a hole somewhere and try and persuade someone to bury you
in it.
GymnGDoll
Subject: Re: NOTICE - Please read
From: john.t...@hypno.demon.co.uk (John Thornley)
Date: Wed, Dec 17, 1997 08:14 EST
Message-id: <3498cf3f...@news.demon.co.uk>
On Tue, 16 Dec 1997 22:03:47 GMT, sotw...@mindspring.com (Ray Gordon)
puked:
>Please forgive Dr. Thornley. A year ago, his newborn daughter chose
>to return to God rather than be raised by his pathetic self.
>
What you'll find Ray is that people with any degree of self awareness,
find ways to grow and overcome the pain and anguish which sometimes
comes to the door of of life. That's the difference between people
like me, and there are many others here like me, and people like you.
As the days go by I remember the days spent with my lovely daughter
with more and more fondness, as the pain of her going begins to recede
in the caring arms of acceptance.>>>>>>>>>
Ray has spewed his crap about you before, John. And in this case, although I
don't know you, I am extremely sorry for your loss. And as for YOU Ray, you
could stand to learn some tact. I'm sure many people are waiting for the day
that your mother passes away so that you may suffer the same teasing that you
have doled out to others when they are in a fraglie time. You truly disgust
me.
Anna C. Sheppard
chemical brothers has a video (don't know which song) and the entire
thing is a gymnastics floor routine (woman) with an extremely cheesy sub-plot
of two girls, protagonist, antagonist, competing against each other for
the top spot. Other than that, the video is neat in that it's different
than your standard video, and there is also a part where you can see the
girl's underwear which is rather amusing as well.
Watching a pop-up-video of Cheryl Crow's Leaving Las Vegas, there are a
couple of guys dressed up as elvis doing some layouts or something
(assuming on a trampoline) and the pop up gave the names of the people
dressed up. I can only remember one of them, it was mitch gaylord.
Amusing as well.
ps, Ray Gordon's messages are NOT the only ones i delete before reading
now... you're all in the same game wether you realize it or not. "yawn,
delete delete delete, yawn, delete delete, yawn...etc...). Hanging on now
cause some people do actually post interesting stuff. thanks go out to them.
a.
Rockies235
This post really has nothing to do w/anything, so i suggest you just read on,
unless you are really curious.
>Your negative energy has been transferred directly into the knees of
>Jaycie Phelps, which are undergoing surgery tomorrow.
Your negative energy has been transferred to your dick which could probably use
some re-enlargement surgery. Have a nice day.
Doesn't my post sound much nicer in the end?
Think Tank Sports Line
In article <19971217050...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
boon...@aol.com (Boonastic) wrote:
> Geez, this is sad when innocent people are being accused. Look you guys, I
> know MJR and he is NOT Ray, okay? And unless you people have 100% absolute
> proof of a SN that belongs to Ray, don't out it. This is like the fifth person
> that I know personally that has been accused.
Anyone who actually reads the original
post knows no one was being accused.
Anyone who 'knows' Ray knows you don't
want young gymnasts' names, addresses,
and phone numbers available to him -
which he could get if they give them
to MJRBummer/Jack Snyder and he puts
them on a page or in the ngs.
Please actually read what was written.
Boonastic
* Anyone who actually reads the original
Anyone who 'knows' Ray knows you don't
want young gymnasts' names, addresses,
and phone numbers available to him -
which he could get if they give them
to MJRBummer/Jack Snyder and he puts
them on a page or in the ngs.
Please actually read what was written.*
Wow.. I don't remember asking YOUR opinion. You should take your "information"
about Ray elsewhere. We don't care about it. Anything about Ray that we need
to know, we'll feel free to speak directly TO him or find it ourselves. By
posting your "info" you prove to be just as bad as him. As for my post, I DID
read what was written, and Jack ASKED me to help him out in spreading the word
that he is NOT Ray. Excuse me all to ยก ___ ! for trying to help out a friend.
MJRBummer
Anyone who 'knows' Ray knows you don't
want young gymnasts' names, addresses,
and phone numbers available to him -
which he could get if they give them
to MJRBummer/Jack Snyder and he puts
them on a page or in the ngs.
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Ray probably already had 'em. And another thing I didn't post or ask for their
frickin' phone numbers!!!!
MJRBummer
All I want is to be left out of the Ray controversy okay!!!!!
I don't wanna have my name mentioned with his again. The fact that someone
would try and lump into the same category or say that my actions help him is
sickening. I'm am nothing like Ray. It seems like Thnk...@concentric.net is
acting like Ray; accusing people of horrible crimes and stating unproven facts,
like my posting of the gymnasts' FAN MAIL ADDRESSES somehow beneifited Ray. Ya
know what I think? I think ol' Think Tank IS RAY. His actions seem very similar
to Ray's.
See how easy it is to make outlandish claims Think Tank?
Take that into account next time you suppossedly uncover another one of "Ray's
Screen Names". I saw your list on Deja News and thought you were cool guy going
after Ray. I even sent copies of it to my friends, DClan and Boonastic. And
then last night I am suddenly turned into your target. I've lost all respect
for you. In my book you're as bad as Ray if not worse.
Ray Gordon
mjrb...@aol.com (MJRBummer) wrote:
I don't have their fan mail addresses. Don't need them. I got their
screen names.