RayFAQ disclaimer
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RayFAQ has been updated with the Disclaimer below. RayFAQ is a Frequently Asked Questions page about Gordon Roy Parker aka Ray Gordon aka pxy...@aol.com and several other screennames. He is a dangerous and mentally disturbed harasser who is obsessed about young females.
You can read RayFAQ at: http://members.tripod.com/~rayfaq/index.html
Because Ray has accused several people (including Dominique Moceanu as you can read from his articles) of being behind RayFAQ, the following disclaimer has been added to it:
Disclaimer
I want to point out that this FAQ is based on USENET articles written by Ray himself. A lot of the examples are about Dominique Moceanu as they are examples of how obsessed Ray is about her. In fact there is so much material to use that only a small fraction is used in the FAQ. Ray Gordon has accused Dominique Moceanu of being behind this FAQ. I want to point out that Dominique Moceanu is NOT behind this page. I, as the author of RayFAQ, have never met Dominique Moceanu. I don't even know anything about her and I am not a gymnastics fan. I do feel sorry for anyone that is unfortunate enough to be the target of Ray's sickness though.
Ray is also accusing me of only telling one side of the story. I publish all the negative e-mail and especially anything that Ray will send me. If Ray wants to tell his side of the story, he should e-mail it to ray...@iname.com and everything will get published unedited.
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Pxykick
Here are my only comments on RayFAQ:
1. Dominique is behind it. Of course you are going to deny that, but she is.
She has been on a mission to discredit me ever since I quoted her own words
about being abused by her dad and her coach, and what she witnessed in the
sport of gymnastics. My "obsession" if there is one is with stopping BELA, not
with her. As for stalking, Dominique and her friends continued to contact me
after I broke contact with her and them. So just who is obsessed with who
here?
2. Your statement that I am unemployed is inaccurate.
3. I have taken the rather drastic step of disowning ALL women, except for a
very few who specifically request that I talk to them and who may be of use to
me at some point in the future. You couldn't get more out of a court of law
from me if you tried.
4. You are anonymous. If you want credibility, you should put your name
behind your statements. In this country people have the right to confront
their accusers. If you want to stay anonymous, feel free to do so, but this
will naturally harm your credibility.
5. The letter you quote from the girl who said I pushed her off AOL (talk
about blaming others for one's problems) was written by Katy...@aol.com, one
of the many screen names Dominique has used in the past. "Katy" (who is
actually a Romanian-American gymnast) is now using LadyD...@aol.com. She was
not "driven" off AOL.
6. The tactic of quoting some of what I say and not all of it can be used to
present an inaccurate picture to observers. That's your right, but it doesn't
tell the whole story by a longshot. Some of those posts are also almost two
years old, and many were provoked by the actions of others. Since I no longer
deal with those others, I do not have problems with them or anyone. My biggest
"problem" these days is explaining to women why they get no more chances from
me. By the way, many women do not take No for an answer very well and actually
harass ME. But in this society, no one counts when women break the rules, so
women can do whatever they want.
7. Another girl you quote an accusation of stalking me from, Beth Pederson,
recently admitted to LYING about her denial of what I quoted her as saying six
months ago. This is because her mom is about to tell the truth or already has
told the truth in a court of law. What Beth did to harm my reputation and
incite vigilantes against me is actionable in a court of law, and I am in the
process of preparing a case to that effect. Republication of such allegations
which have been proven false on your part demonstrates reckless disregard for
the truth.
8. I have no future interest in talking to, coaching, or otherwise being
involved in the life of Dominique Moceanu. I said my piece regarding her
abuses. I should also point out that it was SHE who REPEATEDLY contacted ME,
but then again you already know that. She has also had her friends hack me
offline, make webpages like your own about me, and taken many other
questionable steps in an attempt to silence me. I was warned about the
creation of your page before it went up by a screen name used by Dominique.
That is one of many pieces of evidence I have that she is behind it.
I am seriously contemplating filing a restraining order against Dominique.
It's not that she contacts me, but she has her friends do it. You can restrain
someone from contacting you or having others do it if you don't want them to,
but I'd hate to see it come to that, although maybe it's time people realized
that sometimes it's the celebrity who becomes obsessed, especially when someone
finds out something they shouldn't. I probably won't file one, but I
definitely have grounds to.
Let me tell you something else about your site: if and when I get around to
suing you over it, I will tell a court that it is merely Dominique's latest
attempt at intimidating me, and that it is libelous. Once the story is told to
a court, the media can pick it up without fear of a lawsuit. I have several
media organizations which are very close to breaking the entire story of
Dominique's life, but they are waiting for either more evidence, someone who
will come forward directly, or someone like me who will assume the legal risks
for telling the story. You are giving me a PERFECT vehicle to do this with.
By the way, once I get out of the gymnastics world, about 90-95 percent of the
people who hear about The American Slave take my side. They see abused
gymnasts as the norm, not the exception.
As one who is outspoken, I defend someone's right to free speech. I do not
defend their right to slander or libel me, and assume that those who do so are
aware of the legal risks they are taking. That I have not taken maximum legal
action against you, Dominique, or others speaks more to the strength of my case
against Beth, which is easier to prove because she admitted herself to lying.
Personally, I don't think you have taken the time to confirm or deny much of
what is written or consider their sources. At least when Dominique accused her
dad and Bela I took over three years attmepting to confirm or deny it. My
final conclusion is that it was indeed her in 1994, that the screen name she
was using at the time belonged to Missy Marlowe, whom I later confirmed was a
friend of hers, that she was abused as she had said, that abuses are rampant in
the sport of gymnastics, and that she is out to discredit me for learning this.
I also have to wonder where your sense of justice is for men like Beth's dad.
Could it be you are AFRAID to confront a man like that because he has MONEY and
POWER? Sounds like it. Why would you focus on me and ignore a man who throws
his daughter down a flight of stairs? No one EVER answers these questions
legitimately.
I would suggest to you and Dominique that you both refocus your obviously
abundant energy on fighting the real problems in this world and leave me alone.
But unless I get a court order, that's up to you to do. I do not like having
to shurt myself off from humanity, but if that is what it takes to prove that I
am not what people say I am, then so be it. That leaves me with a lot of time
on my hands to devote to my work, and I do work. In fact, just about all I do
is work. Given a choice, I'd have ended my life already but that violates my
ethics, so instead I just work....and work....and work. You get an incredible
amount of work done when you aren't distracted by phonies.
I also have wondered how people really would react if I were to end my life.
Would they be happy? Probably some would be. Others would try to rewrite
history and pretend they were my friends. Those who caused the situation that
left me with no taste for this life would of course say something like "Poor
guy," etc. Mock compassion is always so thrilling. Working is pretty much the
same as suicide anyway; my spirit was killed, not by depression, but by
DISGUST. I simply do not have the time and resources to focus away from my
career goals at this time, so I have chosen to just let people decide for
themselves who I am. That's there perogative.
The only thing I keep repeating to myself right now is one phrase: "There will
be no forgiveness." I make no apologies for this stance, and I'm not going to
be altering it, ever. My mother no longer has one of her sons because of
people like you, and I refuse to ever speak to or be kind to any woman again
unless it's in my best personal interest to do so. Whereas once I helped
people as much as I could, now I work only on myself. If that makes people
happy, so be it. Perhaps in the next life when God explains the real truth to
people and they see how much I have been wronged they will regret rushing to
judgement about me, but it will be too late. There will simply be no
forgiveness, ever. I have tried meeting people halfway but it's useless. They
have spoken, condemned me forever, and they have also spoken for each and every
person, especially female, who might try to get close to me in the future.
Even if every person attacking me were to stop, if they were to fully admit the
truth, if they were to offer me the world to forgive them, I would refuse. You
are looking at a living, breathing suicide victim who is restrained enough not
to actually end his own life but who would do so in a second if it were legal
or ethical. In this "death" in which I exist I do nothing but work anymore.
Does that make people happy? Of course not. Even if I don't talk to people,
they still can't stand to see me posting, because what I write is too painful
for them to read. Despite freedom of speech laws which protect my right to say
what I say, people condemn me because they can't stand to see their idols as
human. If most people knew the real Dominique the way I do they would not be
so quick to worship her.
Stalker? Harasser? You couldn't be further from the truth. Dominique not
behind your website? Please, don't insult my intellect. To the people reading
this, I hope you understand now why some people you meet will never give you a
chance to get to know them. You may not be the person who harmed them, but you
sure as hell are someone who stood by and did nothing while it went on, and
that is just as bad. Lots of people watched Jesus get crucified and did
nothing; were they wrong? Many we call Christians today would have done
nothing, in fact. Even Patty Borden said that if she were alive when Jesus was
crucified that she would have stood by, watched, and did nothing.
If all you and Dominique have to do with your time is bother a man who has
given himself a restraining order against the entire female population, I pity
you. Destroying or attempting to destroy my name isn't going to change the
truth about Dominique's abuses; in fact, all it's going to do is call an
incredible amount of attention to this story, and the more I can tie the
actions of you and others to her, the worse she is going to look. If you are
her fan and friend, you may wish to consider this.
Work is the only thing that ever goes well for me in this life. I'm not
talking about job discrimination, but the actual work I do, which is excellent.
I prefer to focus on that and only that, for the day I stop working is the day
I stop living, literally.
There will be NO forgiveness. Ever. Not in this life or the next. Maybe that
doesn't matter to people now, but when the entire truth of this matter is
revealed, a lot of people are going to be saying things like "I'm sorry!" or "I
had no IDEA!" And at that point it will be too late. I know what has been
done to me and why. The people who harmed me are not half as much a concern to
me as the "good" people who validate them. I expect evil people to be evil; I
never expected "good" people to cheer them on without at least checking the
facts or the possible motivations behind the accusers.
There will be no forgiveness. Ever.
NOTE: I am currently seeking a good lawyer skilled in slander and libel cases.
I have a GREAT one. For more information, please visit this website:
http://members.tripod.com/~rayfaq/index.html
GymBooPeep
* I have taken the rather drastic step of disowning ALL women, except for a
very few who specifically request that I talk to them and who may be of use to
In other words, you're using them. This from the man who say women use men for
$. So Ray, what exactly ARE you using these women for?!?!?!?!!
Minister2B
Ray....you have "been contemplating" suing everyone on the net, filing
restraining orders against everyone who is a gymnast or a fan of gymnastics,
outing Bela (BEFORE) the 1996 Olympics (gee, didn't happen did it....)
Get off it liar.
GymnGDoll
There will be no forgiveness. Ever.>>>>>>
Does he think that anyone cares if he's mad or not?
Pxykick
Subject: Re: RayFAQ disclaimer
From: gymbo...@aol.com (GymBooPeep)
Date: Mon, Mar 9, 1998 09:41 EST
Message-id: <19980309144...@ladder03.news.aol.com>
<---------That's now, after years of psychological abuse by women who'd rather
deny the truth about why they get hired. I'm focused on solving a few specific
problems in my life, and anyone who wants to help me do so -- on MY terms, not
theirs -- is welcome to pitch in. If people cared, these problems could be
solved within a week. Solving them on my own will take longer, and if I do
that I have no one to thank but myself.
You find out who your true friends are when you have a crisis. If I have no
friends, that's better than having phony ones. Everyone is your friend when
they want something from you; few people ever care enough to help you when you
truly need them. And even that I don't mind, but when people are an active
part of the problem (like Tara Lipinski's dad, for one), then I take exception
to the criticisms of their spoiled brats who take their money and act like it
was earned when in fact it was stolen.
Anyone want to TRULY help me out? I'm all ears. If not please go to hell and
do not come back.
Pxykick
Subject: Re: RayFAQ disclaimer
From: minis...@aol.com (Minister2B)
Date: Mon, Mar 9, 1998 10:39 EST
Message-id: <19980309153...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Get off it liar.
<-----You think Bela's retirement was an ACCIDENT? I've exposed the man for
what he is: a child abuser. And the longer people trash me, the longer they
libel me, the easier it will be to sue them. They are the ones taking the
risks with every lie they tell, not me, and if I sue them it will be at MY
convenience, not yours.
Minister2B
So, you are taking credit for his retirement after the 1992 games when
"Dominique" only "informed you" in 195 or 96? Interesting... shows you are
still full of it.
I'm putting on my waders next time I go to PA.
DClan13251
Gordon, perhaps you should take the time you wasted to post this; to look
through the classified section in the newspaper!
Kevraxx1
You are anonymous. If you want credibility, you should put your name
behind your statements. In this country people have the right to confront
their accusers. If you want to stay anonymous, feel free to do so, but this
will naturally harm your credibility>>>>>>>>>
If you want his name, find it out yourself. That's what we had to do. You
told us your name was Ray Parker? I think that's it, but it's really Gordon
Roy Parker (or cocksucker, whichever you prefer).
Kevraxx1
You think Bela's retirement was an ACCIDENT? I've exposed the man for
what he is: a child abuser. And the longer people trash me, the longer they
libel me, the easier it will be to sue them. They are the ones taking the
risks with every lie they tell, not me, and if I sue them it will be at MY
convenience, not yours.>>>>>>>>
ROTFL, so now you take credit for Bela retiring?! That's just funny. Like he
gives a flying fuck about some insane shithead on AOL. I'll libel you until
the day you sue me (like that'll happen). But if you do sue me Ray, there WILL
be a counter-suit. Try it, I dare you.
Pxykick
Subject: Re: RayFAQ disclaimer
From: gymn...@aol.com (GymnGDoll)
Date: Mon, Mar 9, 1998 12:23 EST
Message-id: <19980309172...@ladder03.news.aol.com>
There will be no forgiveness. Ever.>>>>>>
Does he think that anyone cares if he's mad or not?
<---God does. God knows the truth. God is FURIOUS at those who cover for Bela
Karolyi. Dominique is one thing, because it's happening to her, but for her
friends to enable this abuser is absolutely unforgivable and evil, and to do it
for MONEY? Disgusting.
That anyone would put gymnastics over the welfare of a child, or ignore a child
abuser like Bela Karolyi, is beyond comprehension to anyone with ethics,
morals, or a conscience.
Absolutely disgusting.
Pxykick
Subject: Re: RayFAQ disclaimer
From: minis...@aol.com (Minister2B)
Date: Mon, Mar 9, 1998 13:03 EST
Message-id: <19980309180...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
<-------------Dominique has said she might go back to her abuser. If she does
it will be the worst move she ever makes.
By the way, those interested in talking to Dominique should try the screen name
LadyDawg33.
w. e. little
Minister2B wrote in message
<19980309180...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>So, you are taking credit for his retirement after the 1992 games when
>"Dominique" only "informed you" in 195 or 96? Interesting... shows you are
>still full of it.
>
>I'm putting on my waders next time I go to PA.
this freak doesn't live in Harrisburg, does he?
dave...@gte.net
In article <19980309173...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
> Date: Mon, Mar 9, 1998 09:41 EST
> Message-id: <19980309144...@ladder03.news.aol.com>
>
> * I have taken the rather drastic step of disowning ALL women, except for a
> very few who specifically request that I talk to them and who may be of use to
> me at some point in the future. *
>
> In other words, you're using them. This from the man who say women use men for
> $. So Ray, what exactly ARE you using these women for?!?!?!?!!
>
> <---------That's now, after years of psychological abuse by women who'd rather
> deny the truth about why they get hired. I'm focused on solving a few specific
> problems in my life, and anyone who wants to help me do so -- on MY terms, not
> theirs -- is welcome to pitch in. If people cared, these problems could be
> solved within a week. Solving them on my own will take longer, and if I do
> that I have no one to thank but myself.
>
> You find out who your true friends are when you have a crisis. If I have no
> friends, that's better than having phony ones. Everyone is your friend when
> they want something from you; few people ever care enough to help you when you
> truly need them. And even that I don't mind, but when people are an active
> part of the problem (like Tara Lipinski's dad, for one), then I take exception
> to the criticisms of their spoiled brats who take their money and act like it
> was earned when in fact it was stolen.
>
> Anyone want to TRULY help me out? I'm all ears. If not please go to hell and
> do not come back.
The only person responsible for your wretched (although amusing to read
about) state is YOU!! Keep up the posts, "Ray". We all need a good laugh,
and they hurt noone but YOU !!
>
> NOTE: I am currently seeking a good lawyer skilled in slander and libel cases.
> I have a GREAT one. For more information, please visit this website:
> http://members.tripod.com/~rayfaq/index.html
>
>
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Pxykick
Subject: Re: RayFAQ disclaimer
From: kevr...@aol.com (Kevraxx1)
Date: Mon, Mar 9, 1998 14:00 EST
Message-id: <19980309190...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
You think Bela's retirement was an ACCIDENT? I've exposed the man for
what he is: a child abuser. And the longer people trash me, the longer they
libel me, the easier it will be to sue them. They are the ones taking the
risks with every lie they tell, not me, and if I sue them it will be at MY
convenience, not yours.>>>>>>>>
ROTFL, so now you take credit for Bela retiring?! That's just funny. Like he
gives a flying <TOS> about some insane <TOS> on AOL. I'll libel you until
the day you sue me (like that'll happen). But if you do sue me Ray, there WILL
be a counter-suit. Try it, I dare you.
<-------Actually, the Ft. Collins police department is rather interested in
tracking the movements of arsonists. If I were you I wouldn't be so arrogant.
You'll be in jail before long if you don't clean up your act.
Anyone who wants the scoop on Kevin, please e-mail me, and I can put you in
touch with a lot of people from his hometown who know him very well.
Pxykick
Subject: Re: RayFAQ disclaimer
From: dclan...@aol.com (DClan13251)
Date: Mon, Mar 9, 1998 13:10 EST
Message-id: <19980309181...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
Gordon, perhaps you should take the time you wasted to post this; to look
through the classified section in the newspaper!
<----------Doesn't matter, because I have to sue anyway to get a job. You know
this of course but to acknowledge that someone might have done me wrong badly
is beyond your comprehension. You only know that you worship Dominique and
that you can't get close to her any other way than by doing her bidding.
As many of you have pointed out, gender equality laws are a joke. Women don't
want justice; they want power. They want to keep their jobs and invade
previously male territory. Rather than focus on the sexual ethics involved
here, even though you claim to be a defender of harassed women, you instead
resort to locker-room style taunting of my situation, even though I'm not the
one who broke the law.
God is well aware of your words. One day you will be held accountable for
them. God will also ask you who the hag is. Hope you have a good answer
prepared, because your attitude isn't going to go very far with Jesus.
Oh wait, BEING a Christian doesn't matter anymore; just SAYING you are is
enough. Sounds like another WHOREDEN fan her.....or maybe an MLT fan. MLT is
Mary Lee Tracy, coach at CGA, also known as the Bible-Thumping Homewrecker.
Pxykick
Subject: Re: RayFAQ disclaimer
From: kevr...@aol.com (Kevraxx1)
Date: Mon, Mar 9, 1998 13:57 EST
Message-id: <19980309185...@ladder02.news.aol.com>
<----Actually, my name has been public knowledge for close to two years. These
people are making some pretty bold statements and refusing to back them up.
Those who observe should take the trouble to check out BOTH sides of this
story. One side is hidden. It won't be for long.
Soon the entire truth will be uncovered and there will be nowhere for the liars
to hide.
Kevraxx1
Actually, the Ft. Collins police department is rather interested in
tracking the movements of arsonists. If I were you I wouldn't be so arrogant.
You'll be in jail before long if you don't clean up your act.
Anyone who wants the scoop on Kevin, please e-mail me, and I can put you in
touch with a lot of people from his hometown who know him very well.>>>>>>>
Fort Collins PD? Right...like I ever do anything they give a fuck about. And
you know SEVERAL people who know me VERY well? That's a crock of shit and you
know it, you haven't talked to anyone online who knows me "very well". If I
were you, I'd watch what I'd say, some of it just might come back and bite you
in the ass.
Kevraxx1
Actually, the Ft. Collins police department is rather interested in
tracking the movements of arsonists. If I were you I wouldn't be so arrogant.
You'll be in jail before long if you don't clean up your act.
Anyone who wants the scoop on Kevin, please e-mail me, and I can put you in
touch with a lot of people from his hometown who know him very well.>>>>>>>
Awww.....looks like the only source you ever had that lived in my town (Rachel)
seems to have lost AOL because her parents caught her with Marijuana. You
fucken hypocritic coward.....
DClan13251
Gordo wrote:
>You only know that you worship Dominique and
>that you can't get close to her any other way than by doing her bidding.
I don't know Dominique, and I have no desire to "get close to her" as you
claim. Your delusional state must have given you that idea. Here, have some
Lithium Gordo. Å
Rockies235
***There will be no forgiveness. Ever.***
Is this going along the lines of the Metallica song "The unforgiven?" Because
if it is, then I that you need to hear the new unforgiven, because if
Unforgiven I applies to us, the Unforgiven II applies to you:
What I felt
What I known
Turn the pages turn to stone
Behind the door, should I open it for you?
What I felt
What I known
Sick and tired I stand alone
Could you be there 'cause I don't wanna wait for you
Or are you Unforgiven too
I'll just leace you with that thought:)
Isaac
Afbdw420
well, ray/roy, he's calling your hand, show us some creadibility and tell us
your name, big boy
Whrlwnd99
>Does he think that anyone cares if he's mad or not?
Yup...that's the delusional part!
GymnGDoll
>Does he think that anyone cares if he's mad or not?
Yup...that's the delusional part!>>>>
LOL Nancy...I didn't mean mad like that, but okay, sure, it works...lol.
GymBooPeep
* <----No, this "freak" lives at the following address:
4247 Locust Street, #806
Philadelphia, PA 19104
*
Dear God, I hope that's your address "Ray". I remember seeing that in a huge
chain letter about you, but I wasn't 100% sure. If that's not your address and
some poor sucker receives a mail bomb from someone meant for you, you'll have a
pretty hefty lawsuit for giving that addy out. Fair warning.
SLVRMDL84
In article <19980309173...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, pxy...@aol.com
(Pxykick) writes:
><-----You think Bela's retirement was an ACCIDENT?
I've exposed the man for what he is: a child abuser.>
No, Bela's retirement wasn't an accident. It was planned
in advance of the '96 Games. He has retired from daily
coaching of elite athletes. He still coaches at his ranch facility.
Bela has plenty of work with USAG tours and competitions.
He is hardly 'hiding out" from your preposterous, supercillious
essay on modern violations of the Emancipation Proclamation.
You are a gnat on the arse of an elephant. The elephant knows
you are there but is not concerned because you are no threat or
danger to the elephant.
FYI: I'm not "protecting" Bela - I don't even much like him BUT I
do know him and you are making an end run for the " Internet
Ignoramous of the Year" award.
~~~~~~CODE 6~~~~~~
SLVRMDL84
In article <19980309094...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, pxy...@aol.com
(Pxykick) writes:
> In this country people have the right to confront
>their accusers.>
I believe that right is reserved for the courtroom.
> Republication of such allegations which have been
>proven false on your part demonstrates reckless
>disregard for the truth.>
Truth! What a concept. Why not try it yourself?
>I have several media organizations which are very
>close to breaking the entire story of Dominique's life,
>but they are waiting for either more evidence, someone
>who will come forward directly, or someone like me
>who will assume the legal risks for telling the story.>
Once the media investigates the schizophenic nature of
their "Deep Throat" I suspect they will not touch this fairy
tale with someones else's 10' pole.
>By the way, once I get out of the gymnastics world
>about 90-95 percent of the people who hear about
>The American Slave take my side.>
Ignorance is bliss. And how do they 'hear' about "TAS"?
Are you handing out flyers now over by that other thing
in Philly with the crack in it?
> Even if I don't talk to people, they still can't stand to
>see me posting, because what I write is too painful
for them to read.>
It's not painful at all. It's a silly stream of conciousness
philosophy that evolved over time into a fantasy in which
you now believe.
No cover-up. Simply no story. Joan Ryan wrote a book
so it in your mind it certainly must be true! It was sporadically
true. She hit on a lot and she missed on a lot. It was a lop-sided
view of a sport which has been good for thousands. When you
go into a field of flowers you find flowers. When you go into a
field of weeds you find weeds. Ms. Ryan set out to find weeds
not to pick flowers.
~~~~~~CODE 6~~~~~~