On no - Even more Mo
Ron Gibson
By Rick Stroud, Times Staff Writer
Tuesday, January 5, 2010
The Glazers, who own the Bucs, said in a statement they�re �committed
to the plan� with first-year coach Raheem Morris.
TAMPA � Raheem Morris was already making plans for the offseason
Monday, looking forward to the draft and planning to build around
quarterback Josh Freeman.
"I've got a feeling that Year 2 will be a lot less dramatic for me,"
Morris said at his news conference.
For Morris, the suspense ended when he was summoned to the Glazers'
office later in the afternoon and learned he would return for the 2010
season.
"We are committed to the plan that we began 12 months ago with Coach
Morris, and we look forward to building on the pieces that were put in
place this season," vice president Joel Glazer said in a statement
released Monday night.
Morris, 33, had the deck stacked against him when he was named head
coach to replace Jon Gruden, who was fired Jan. 16.
Morris had never been a head coach at any level and had just been
named defensive coordinator on Christmas Eve to replace Monte Kiffin.
He was paired with first-year general manager Mark Dominik, who helped
Morris hire a coaching staff.
That was where the first cracks developed. The Bucs fired offensive
coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski 10 days before the regular-season opener.
Greg Olson, the quarterbacks coach at the time, took over play-calling
duties and got a contract extension.
And 10 weeks into the season, with the defense ranked at or near the
bottom of every category and allowing 29 points a game, Morris took
over defensive play-calling duties from coordinator Jim Bates.
"I know it was a tough year," Morris said. "I know it wasn't what
everyone wanted it to be, but they are a tough team. I know that when
I turn on my tape of my team and I watch them play down the stretch,
you see nothing but hard, tough play. You see those guys never quit.
Not just one individual player but all of them."
Any other suspense that might have existed was reduced when a report
surfaced that former Steelers coach Bill Cowher, who was rumored to
have been a candidate had the Bucs fired Morris, won't return to
coaching in 2010.
Even before being told for sure that he was staying, Morris was
already looking forward to 2010.
And Morris listed the development of Freeman as the team's top
priority.
"It starts with him," Morris said. "Then after that the draft and
building around him, our team and what we are going to be. You have to
say that No. 5 is the biggest priority, making sure everything works
around him, because when it works around him, we were able to be
successful at the end of the season there."
Freeman, 3-6 as a starter, set a club rookie record with 10 touchdown
passes but had 18 interceptions and a 59.9 passer rating. He said he
embraced the responsibility of being the Bucs' franchise quarterback.
"Obviously, it is a responsibility, but I try to look at it as a
blessing," Freeman said. "I have a head coach who has confidence in
me, and he's willing to invest in me to become a better player and be
better next year and win more games."
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improving the roster no mater who the head coach is. Morris needs to
hire another offensive mind, a new O-line coach, a new D-line coach, &
a cover-2 defensive coordinator.Perry Fewell, late of Buffalo, is
available. His defense was weak against the run this past year but
strong vs.the pass. His 2008 defense was 14th overall, & he has four
years experience as DC.A negative is that he specializes in secondary
coaching, same as Raheem.
Ideally, Olson would stay on as QB coach under a new OC. Freeman needs
some continuity to avoid being another Jason Campbell.
Stephen Weihman
>Morris needs to
>hire another offensive mind, a new O-line coach, a new D-line coach, &
>a cover-2 defensive coordinator.
If he hires a new offensive mind, it won't be as the coordinator. They
added another year to Olson's contract a couple of weeks ago, so he's
next year's OC....
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Raise the white flags!
2009 Bucs season officially a disaster and
"The Nightmare" continues.
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> If he hires a new offensive mind, it won't be as the coordinator. They
> added another year to Olson's contract a couple of weeks ago, so he's
> next year's OC....
>
> ---
> Raise the white flags!
> 2009 Bucs season officially a disaster and
> "The Nightmare" continues.
That's why I said "ideally." Contracts can be redone.
Stephen Weihman
You're correct. We'll replace him the week before the first game next
year. :-)
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>
> You're correct. We'll replace him the week before the first game next
> year. :-)
>
> ---
> Raise the white flags!
> 2009 Bucs season officially a disaster and
> "The Nightmare" continues.
Or the new guy could get a title like "Executive Asst. Head Coach--
Offense."
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Perry Fewell very likely to end up as Bears defensive coordinator.
More on NFL.com about 14 hours ago from mobile web
JasonLaCanfora
Raheem better not take too long resting, he's gonna find all the good
assistants gone again.
g b
Re: On no - Even more Mo
Group: alt.sports.football.pro.tampabay-bucs Date: Wed, Jan 6, 2010,
4:51am (EST-3) From: bay...@gmail.com (bayn...@yahoo.com)
gb: And what established "good" assistant will want to join the Bucs and
"bail out" a rookie coach, especially on Glazer-rookie-boys team????
But maybe if they put up "Manchester United" money.
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> Raheem better not take too long resting, he's gonna find all the good
> assistants gone again.
>
> gb: And what established "good" assistant will want to join the Bucs and
> "bail out" a rookie coach, especially on Glazer-rookie-boys team????
> But maybe if they put up "Manchester United" money.
If it is a raise in status or pay, no telling what can be
accomplished. Tampa is a nice place to live, & no state income tax.
james
|gb: And what established "good" assistant will want to join the Bucs and
|"bail out" a rookie coach, especially on Glazer-rookie-boys team????
|But maybe if they put up "Manchester United" money.
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Why not a good college coach that may want to make a name for himself?
An assistant does not have to come from the pros. Or does he?
james
james
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Affordable housing also. Well the homes are affordable the insurance
maybe another issue. Even just not having no state income tax and
current pay myabe a suitable increase from some states.
Besides there is also a challenge that may very well intice a veteran
assistant coach. I also ask do you want a retread coach? How about a
good college assistant that wants to make a name for himself?
james
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>
> Affordable housing also. Well the homes are affordable the insurance
> maybe another issue. Even just not having no state income tax and
> current pay myabe a suitable increase from some states.
>
> Besides there is also a challenge that may very well intice a veteran
> assistant coach. I also ask do you want a retread coach? How about a
> good college assistant that wants to make a name for himself?
>
> james
Ordinarily I'd agree with you, but considering the current staff's
inexperience, NFL vets are needed.
james
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I would rather you base your opinion on the relative inexperience of
the head coach and not the entire staff. The Bucs staff has a mixture
of veteran coaches and scouts as well as relatively low experience. It
is veryeasy to look at the results and blame the focal figure of the
team and place all the blame there.
What I have gleened from reading several interviews with Morris,
Dominik and others, right now Joel and Brian are the final say so in
any contract for staff and possibly player aquisition. What has
transpired over the past three years is almost a classic example of
Joel and/or Brian doing a bit to much micro-managing and not enough of
letting the people he has hired do what they were hired to do. If that
persists in the future, no coach or assistants will have a whole lot
of success. Yes they may do well for one or two seasons. Maybe even
get lucky and get to a superbowl or an NFC championship game. But
still no long term success. Not like New England or other teams.
james
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How about Tim Marcum?
PD
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> |
> |Ordinarily I'd agree with you, but considering the current staff's
> |inexperience, NFL vets are needed.
> |==============
>
> I would rather you base your opinion on the relative inexperience of
> the head coach and not the entire staff. The Bucs staff has a mixture
> of veteran coaches and scouts as well as relatively low experience. It
> is veryeasy to look at the results and blame the focal figure of the
> team and place all the blame there.
>
Inexperience at the top & then hiring new inexperienced assistants is
the point. Now, there are some guys in NCAA that have pro backgrounds,
& that would be different.
Flycoon
The problem is no one on staff has a contract beyond 2010. Any
coordinator worth a shit will want some sort of stability; a guy
willing to take a one year deal will need to be desperate. And we
know how well those work out.
james
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What new inexperienced assistants? Olsen? He has been in coaching
longer than Morris!
Raheem Morris - Head Coach - 7 yrs NFL experience
Joe Baker - Defensive Backs Coach - 14 yrs NFL experience
Joe Barry - Linebackers Coach - 10 yrs NFL experience
Tim Berbenich - Assistant Wide Receivers Coach - 8 yrs NFL experience
Richard Bisaccia - Associate Head Coach/Special Teams Coordinator
8 yrs NFL experience
Ejiro Evero - Defensive Quality Control Coach - 3 yrs NFL experience
Jay Kaiser - Assistant to the Head Coach - 1 yr NFL experience
Chris Keenan - Assistant Strength and Conditioning Coach -
3 yrs NFL experience
Steve Logan - Running Backs Coach - 1 yr NFL experience
Pete Mangurian - Offensive Line Coach - 18 yrs NFL experience
Richard Mann - Assistant Head Coach/Wide Receivers Coach -
28 yrs NFL experience
Chris Mosley - Assistant Offensive Line Coach - 1 yr NFL experience
Robert Nunn - Defensive Line Coach - 10 yrs NFL experience
Greg Olson - Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks Coach -
8 yrs NFLexperience
Alfredo Roberts - Tight Ends Coach - 7 yrs NFL experience
Kurtis Shultz - Head Strength and Conditioning Coach -
7 yrs NFL experience
Dwayne Stukes - Assistant Defensive Backs Coach -
4 yrs NFL experience
Todd Wash - Defensive Line Coach - 3 yrs NFL experience
So where is the major inexperience in the Bucs coaching staff? Outside
Kaiser, Evero, Keenan and Wash all have at least 7 yrs of NFL
experience coaching at one or more positions in the NFL. I would think
that Rishard Mann is a potential good mentor to Morris with his years
of experience. What you do have is a lot of these coaches have been
with the Bucs for a few years and are not well known among the fans.
While Evero has only 3 yrs experience, two were under Monte Kiffin. So
I think he knows something about the Tampa 2 should work. Stukes has
been with the Bucs his whole time. Kaiser worked with Morris at KState
so there is a familiarity there.
There may very well be some movement in some of the coaches. Logan
maybe the odd man out. He was OC under Jags at BC and since Olsen is
OC and Jags is gone he may very well leave also.
All in all the coaching staff is not unlike other teams with the
expection of the head Coach who has never been a coordinator. That is
the lightning rod that all point to and then lump the rest into a
category of inexperience. Man it not like Morris was picked off the
street to be an NFL head coach.
I will give due that some coaches do lack time at their current
position. But a total lack of expreince? I don't see that.
james
james
wrote:
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That would be interesting choice!
james