Indianapolis preseason game
Adam Frankel
were pulled, I kind of had the game on in the background, but I don't think
I missed anything. I saw the tall, thin WR dressed in #17 and thought it
was Harold Carmichael for a brief moment. I noticed that the Colts got a
decent backup QB in the 6th round and a punter in the 7th. Most of their
draft picks got mentioned.
While the game was meaningless, it was way too sloppy for a professional
club. Penalties were rampant, blown coverages prevalent, unnecessary
fumbles, missed blocking assignments, missed tackles, dropped interceptions,
etc. Obviously there is a lot of work to do, in order to get ready for the
regular season.
On the positive, McNabb played well and DeSean Jackson is clearly #1. I
thought all of the WRs contributed and McCoy and Buckley each had another
great game. I think the starting defense is a bigger work in progress than
the offense. Babin might be the best surprise of the preseason, and has a
chance to make the team. Sav Rocca looks like he has improved since last
season; he is hitting the corners. Hobbs had a nice kick return but is a
disaster at CB, and Maclin has fumbled 2 punts in 2 weeks - hopefully that
is coachable.
bob johnson
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David E. Powell
The Offensive Line and the Defense were both restructured and I have a
ways to go before I'll think either was wise.
The one thing they should have done in the off season was go for a
money wide reciever or two and they didn't.
Spumoni
>The one thing they should have done in the off season was go for a
>money wide reciever or two and they didn't.
Umm, I'm just spitballin' here... Michael Vick?
Best,
Lou
dwight
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And wouldn't a first round draft pick qualify as a "money wide receiver"?
dwight
David E. Powell
> "Spumoni" <spumo...@verizon.net> wrote in message
First round draft picks are good, and I like Kevin Curtis too, from
last year - but what I was thinking was an NFL-proven big name.
Say what you will the Eagles had a better set of weapons for D-Mac
when they had Terrell Owens. I won't get into the drama, but Owens
played his guts out - If they have Curtis and another top flighter out
there, it gives a lot of weapons.
They should also have kept the line more intact so Donovan would have
guaranteed time to hit those guys. The new line may gel and be as
strong as the old was over the past 5 years, but a guaranteed line and
anotehr big wideout to team up Curtis and maybe Avant with would have
been my call.
David E. Powell
Vick is a QB though. Yeah, I know the whole option thing is pretty big
and they can put Vick in at HB or McNabb at HB and make defenses
wonder a bit, but a good "name" reciever to add to the mix would still
be nice.
Adam Frankel
Lewis and Billy McMullen; the TEs were Chad Lewis and LJ Smith; the RBs were
Westbrook, Dorsey Levens and Reno Mahe. In 2004, the only 2 weapons were TO
and Westbrook, each in his prime, and most the other skill players were
below average, or worse. The 2009 team is significantly more skilled than
the 2004 team, but as you pointed out, without adequate protection, skill
doesn't make a difference. Over the years, I have been among the first to
criticize Andy Reid for his personnel blunders. However, Tra Thomas and Jon
Runyan are past their primes, and the team had to replace them eventually,
but there is a risk when changing both tackles in the same offseason..
Spumoni
> However, Tra Thomas and Jon Runyan are past their primes, and the team had
> to replace them eventually, but there is a risk when changing both tackles
> in the same offseason..
Adam, I think they are too long in the tooth, but there is the intangible--
They could lead. Maybe they aren't what they were, but there are no, I
repeat NO leaders on this club this year. Am I wrong? I hope so. McNabb
calls himself a leader but that doesn't make him one. You can't puke in
money games and be a leader. Dawkins? gone ... Runyan? gone... Jim
Johnson? need I say?
Who leads this team?
Best,
Lou
pablo
> Dear Adam,
>
>> However, Tra Thomas and Jon Runyan are past their primes, and the team
>> had to replace them eventually, but there is a risk when changing both
>> tackles in the same offseason..
>
> Adam, I think they are too long in the tooth, but there is the
> intangible-- They could lead. Maybe they aren't what they were, but
> there are no, I repeat NO leaders on this club this year. Am I wrong? I
> hope so. McNabb calls himself a leader but that doesn't make him one.
> You can't puke in money games and be a leader.
Can you show me proff that he pukes in big games? He has a winning record in
big games. You are Charlie part 2. Your dislike for the best QB and coach
that
the Eagles have ever had is stupid and doesn't say much about you as an
Eagles'
fan.
pablo
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On Aug 22, 9:05 am, "dwight" <dwi...@XTFrog.com> wrote:
> "Spumoni" <spumo...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:0YmdnZZPB-jqIBLX...@giganews.com...
>
> > Dear David,
>
> >>The one thing they should have done in the off season was go for a
> >>money wide reciever or two and they didn't.
>
> > Umm, I'm just spitballin' here... Michael Vick?
>
> > Best,
> > Lou
>
> And wouldn't a first round draft pick qualify as a "money wide receiver"?
>
> dwight
First round draft picks are good, and I like Kevin Curtis too, from
last year - but what I was thinking was an NFL-proven big name.
Say what you will the Eagles had a better set of weapons for D-Mac
when they had Terrell Owens. I won't get into the drama, but Owens
played his guts out - If they have Curtis and another top flighter out
there, it gives a lot of weapons.
Jackson and Maklin say hi. Did you watch the Eagles offense last year?
also have kept the line more intact so Donovan would have
guaranteed time to hit those guys. The new line may gel and be as
strong as the old was over the past 5 years, but a guaranteed line and
anotehr big wideout to team up Curtis and maybe Avant with would have
been my call.
The line wasn't as good as you think over the last two years.
Adam Frankel
and Sheldon Brown provide leadership.
David E. Powell
> David, the 2004 team's WRs were: TO, Todd Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell, Greg
> Lewis and Billy McMullen; the TEs were Chad Lewis and LJ Smith; the RBs were
> Westbrook, Dorsey Levens and Reno Mahe. In 2004, the only 2 weapons were TO
> and Westbrook, each in his prime, and most the other skill players were
> below average, or worse. The 2009 team is significantly more skilled than
> the 2004 team, but as you pointed out, without adequate protection, skill
> doesn't make a difference. Over the years, I have been among the first to
> criticize Andy Reid for his personnel blunders. However, Tra Thomas and Jon
> Runyan are past their primes, and the team had to replace them eventually,
> but there is a risk when changing both tackles in the same offseason..
I think the injuries have been bad luck and made things a bit worse,
and I can see your analysis of the tackles being replaced as long term
thinking.
I like Celek at TE.
The recievers are good. I just have the opinion that another
experienced guy in there, to go with Curtis and maybe Avant, would
have been a good way to go in the off season. We'll find out about all
that as the season gets underway. The preseason still has some time
for them all to gel. I hope they can and that the injury bug leaves
the Eagles.
DEP
RIP JJ
> "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > First round draft picks are good, and I like Kevin Curtis too, from
> > last year - but what I was thinking was an NFL-proven big name.
>
> > Say what you will the Eagles had a better set of weapons for D-Mac
> > when they had Terrell Owens. I won't get into the drama, but Owens
> > played his guts out - If they have Curtis and another top flighter out
> > there, it gives a lot of weapons.
>
> > They should also have kept the line more intact so Donovan would have
> > guaranteed time to hit those guys. The new line may gel and be as
> > strong as the old was over the past 5 years, but a guaranteed line and
> > anotehr big wideout to team up Curtis and maybe Avant with would have
> > been my call.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Adam Frankel
but they were unsuccessful. I think there is plenty of veteran experience
at WR since Curtis (6), Brown (4), Avant (3) and Baskett (3) have combined
for 16 years of experience.
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