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Joe Banner
Apr 27, 2013, 7:51:34 PM4/27/13
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1 Lane Johnson (OT) Oklahoma
2 Zach Ertz (TE) Stanford
3 Bennie Logan (DT) LSU
4 Matt Barkley (QB) USC
5 Earl Wolff (SS) NC State
7.1 Joe Kruger (DE) Utah
7.2 Jordan Poyer (CB) Oregon State
7.3 David King (DE) Oklahoma
In my opinion, this was among the best Eagles draft in quite some time. I liked that they added a rookie to almost every corps. Obviously we need to see these players on the field, however I liked the way the Eagles picked in their slots and didn't trade, just to trade. Their only trade was to pick Barkley which was a terrific trade because they got rid of a garbage pick as the boot.
Johnson will likely be among the wealthiest players on the team in a few months when he signs his #4 overall contract with a 5 year signing bonus. Based on being #4 he is expected to start, immediately. They'll probably move Herremanns to OG.
I think Ertz will get plenty of playing time because Chip Kelly said that they will be using 2 TEs. Logan is pretty big so I presume they'll feed him plenty of smoothies and grow him into a NT and we'll see how he fits in, during training camp.
Barkley is an interesting developmental QB and down the line, he might get his opportunity. He'll need to improve his arm strength; since the Eagles used a 4th this was a low risk pick. Has a 5th round pick ever started? Wolff could be a starter pretty quickly considering how dreadful the safety corps was in 2012. I don't think he'll be starting on opening day, but he could get an opportunity at some point this season by default.
The 7th round picks will be lucky to make the final 53, we'll see how they do in August. The first 5 picks will be the core of this team over the next 4 seasons.
2 Zach Ertz (TE) Stanford
3 Bennie Logan (DT) LSU
4 Matt Barkley (QB) USC
5 Earl Wolff (SS) NC State
7.1 Joe Kruger (DE) Utah
7.2 Jordan Poyer (CB) Oregon State
7.3 David King (DE) Oklahoma
In my opinion, this was among the best Eagles draft in quite some time. I liked that they added a rookie to almost every corps. Obviously we need to see these players on the field, however I liked the way the Eagles picked in their slots and didn't trade, just to trade. Their only trade was to pick Barkley which was a terrific trade because they got rid of a garbage pick as the boot.
Johnson will likely be among the wealthiest players on the team in a few months when he signs his #4 overall contract with a 5 year signing bonus. Based on being #4 he is expected to start, immediately. They'll probably move Herremanns to OG.
I think Ertz will get plenty of playing time because Chip Kelly said that they will be using 2 TEs. Logan is pretty big so I presume they'll feed him plenty of smoothies and grow him into a NT and we'll see how he fits in, during training camp.
Barkley is an interesting developmental QB and down the line, he might get his opportunity. He'll need to improve his arm strength; since the Eagles used a 4th this was a low risk pick. Has a 5th round pick ever started? Wolff could be a starter pretty quickly considering how dreadful the safety corps was in 2012. I don't think he'll be starting on opening day, but he could get an opportunity at some point this season by default.
The 7th round picks will be lucky to make the final 53, we'll see how they do in August. The first 5 picks will be the core of this team over the next 4 seasons.
ng_reader
Apr 27, 2013, 9:09:44 PM4/27/13
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Joe - how are things in, where, Ohio?
Now you could have posted things like height and weight. But, optimism
reigns true. At least till the beginning of September.
I know Barkley's name was bandied about quite a bit prior to this week.
I'm thinking Chipster picked him because of the PAC10 bullshit. Right
now I am going to see how tall he is.
Night!
Now you could have posted things like height and weight. But, optimism
reigns true. At least till the beginning of September.
I know Barkley's name was bandied about quite a bit prior to this week.
I'm thinking Chipster picked him because of the PAC10 bullshit. Right
now I am going to see how tall he is.
Night!
Deward
Apr 27, 2013, 10:39:35 PM4/27/13
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On Apr 27, 9:09 pm, ng_reader <wilgrow...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Joe - how are things in, where, Ohio?
>
> Now you could have posted things like height and weight. But, optimism
> reigns true. At least till the beginning of September.
>
> I know Barkley's name was bandied about quite a bit prior to this week.
> I'm thinking Chipster picked him because of the PAC10 bullshit. Right
> now I am going to see how tall he is.
>
> Night!
The best I can find is from Wikipedia, and they say 6'2" and 230 lbs.
> Joe - how are things in, where, Ohio?
>
> Now you could have posted things like height and weight. But, optimism
> reigns true. At least till the beginning of September.
>
> I know Barkley's name was bandied about quite a bit prior to this week.
> I'm thinking Chipster picked him because of the PAC10 bullshit. Right
> now I am going to see how tall he is.
>
> Night!
Deward
Joe Banner
Apr 27, 2013, 11:26:52 PM4/27/13
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I noticed the PAC-12 prejudice, too. I am encouraged by this year's draft for the following reasons:
1) they stayed in their slots;
2) Barkley trade was bold, low-risk and potentially high-reward;
3) players are all from major programs in major conferences;
4) no division III wasted picks, no reaches or head-scratching picks;
5) no trading backwards and accumulating garbage picks;
6) positional diversity among the corps and several of the players have huge upside potential.
1) they stayed in their slots;
2) Barkley trade was bold, low-risk and potentially high-reward;
3) players are all from major programs in major conferences;
4) no division III wasted picks, no reaches or head-scratching picks;
5) no trading backwards and accumulating garbage picks;
6) positional diversity among the corps and several of the players have huge upside potential.
dls...@gmail.com
Apr 28, 2013, 9:12:38 AM4/28/13
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Pure trash nothing at all that makes a splash
And still the convict will lead them to 3-13
And still the convict will lead them to 3-13
Deward
Apr 28, 2013, 12:44:59 PM4/28/13
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On Apr 27, 7:51 pm, Joe Banner <proactivespi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Barkley is an interesting developmental QB and down the line, he might get his opportunity. He'll need to improve his arm strength; since the Eagles used a 4th this was a low risk pick. Has a 5th round pick ever started?
Hey, Joe, just for the record, Tom Brady was picked #199, a 6th round
>
> Barkley is an interesting developmental QB and down the line, he might get his opportunity. He'll need to improve his arm strength; since the Eagles used a 4th this was a low risk pick. Has a 5th round pick ever started?
compensatory, and he worked out fairly well.
Deward
Joe Banner
Apr 28, 2013, 8:03:21 PM4/28/13
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I think Kelly is less stubborn than Reid (how could he not be?). In preseason Barkley will be playing against 3rds and 4ths. Presuming Barkley has a promising preseason, the fans will be chanting for him, after every Vick fumble or interception. How long will Kelly tolerate Vick's turnovers? At some point, I think Kelly will succumb to the fans/media chirping and give Barkley his opportunity. Great opportunity considering that the NFC East is among the weakest divisions. My prediction is that Barkley gets his opportunity before Halloween.
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Deward wrote:
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Deward wrote:
Deward
Apr 28, 2013, 10:20:13 PM4/28/13
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On Apr 28, 8:03 pm, Joe Banner <proactivespi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think Kelly is less stubborn than Reid (how could he not be?). In preseason Barkley will be playing > >against 3rds and 4ths. Presuming Barkley has a promising preseason, the fans will be chanting for him, >after every Vick fumble or interception. How long will Kelly tolerate Vick's turnovers? At some point, I >think Kelly will succumb to the fans/media chirping and give Barkley his opportunity. Great opportunity >considering that the NFC East is among the weakest divisions. My prediction is that Barkley gets his >opportunity before Halloween.
When Andy Reid took over he brought with him Doug Pederson, a QB he
> I think Kelly is less stubborn than Reid (how could he not be?). In preseason Barkley will be playing > >against 3rds and 4ths. Presuming Barkley has a promising preseason, the fans will be chanting for him, >after every Vick fumble or interception. How long will Kelly tolerate Vick's turnovers? At some point, I >think Kelly will succumb to the fans/media chirping and give Barkley his opportunity. Great opportunity >considering that the NFC East is among the weakest divisions. My prediction is that Barkley gets his >opportunity before Halloween.
had coached at Green Bay and anointed him the starter over Donovan
McNabb, and we all know how that worked out.
Deward
Joe Banner
Apr 29, 2013, 7:12:01 PM4/29/13
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I think Vick's role is similar to Pederson's role in 1999. McNabb started in game #10 as a rookie and could have started sooner. That is why I predicted Barkley would be starting by Halloween, because I think Kelly will be impatient to start his program with Barkley. Vick's frequent turnovers will make it easy for Kelly to start a rookie. Plus the fans/media/ex-governor/SportsRadio will be clamoring for Barkley after every loss or every game that Vick commits multiple giveaways. Vick's giveaways are not coincidental. Opposing DE/DTs don't even try for sacks any more, they try for forced fumbles on every play, while opposing secondaries wait for errant passes. Every NFC defense knows how to play against Vick and he is several steps slower than he was, a decade ago.
Deward
Apr 30, 2013, 5:23:45 AM4/30/13
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I don't know if you are local but on Sunday night the NBC late sports
discussion group had Sal Paolantonio and two local radio guys who
predicted that Vick would start and eventually Nick Foles would become
the starter, while the CBS forum had a writer from the Inquirer who
agreed on Vick, but opined that by season end it would be Barkley.
All I got was that it promises to be an interesting year.
Deward
discussion group had Sal Paolantonio and two local radio guys who
predicted that Vick would start and eventually Nick Foles would become
the starter, while the CBS forum had a writer from the Inquirer who
agreed on Vick, but opined that by season end it would be Barkley.
All I got was that it promises to be an interesting year.
Deward
leon...@gmail.com
Apr 30, 2013, 9:22:48 AM4/30/13
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Hey Deward,
I have NO idea how things will unfold, but I am not bashful when it comes to predicting stuff. So I will predict, here and now, that the Eagles will go 8-8.
Also, FWIW, Sal is the absolute BEST at throwing stuff against the wall and seeing what sticks. He is approaching lengendary status when it comes to that.
SIXTY-THREE (63) years and counting
LB IN DE
I have NO idea how things will unfold, but I am not bashful when it comes to predicting stuff. So I will predict, here and now, that the Eagles will go 8-8.
Also, FWIW, Sal is the absolute BEST at throwing stuff against the wall and seeing what sticks. He is approaching lengendary status when it comes to that.
SIXTY-THREE (63) years and counting
LB IN DE
P-Dub
Apr 30, 2013, 9:33:46 AM4/30/13
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many question marks right now. We don't know how Chip will run this
team. We don't know how these players will look. We don't know if there
will be contract issues. We don't know who is going to be the starting QB.
Let's see how this team comes together before we start writing them off.
We MAY be pleasantly surprised...
And - it's scary to say - this may be the best team in Philly right now.
P-Dub: Go Iggles.
P.S. It is also scary to say I was BORN the year of the last Iggles
championship. And I ain't no young spring chicken anymore.
Joe Banner
May 1, 2013, 6:59:19 PM5/1/13
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8-8 is a realistic prediction considering the league parity, the easy schedule, and most teams finish within 2 games of 0.500.
In my opinion, all 4 NFCE teams are mediocre, while it could be argued that Washington is on the rise, both Dallas and NYG are clearly aging and declining.
Chippy is blessed with an easy schedule chock full of cream puffs including Detroit, Oakland, KC, SD, TB, AZ plus 6 games against NFCE. While he certainly is on a honeymoon season, he should still win 8 games.
I'm not ready for my prediction, yet, until we see what happens during preseason/training camp.
In my opinion, all 4 NFCE teams are mediocre, while it could be argued that Washington is on the rise, both Dallas and NYG are clearly aging and declining.
Chippy is blessed with an easy schedule chock full of cream puffs including Detroit, Oakland, KC, SD, TB, AZ plus 6 games against NFCE. While he certainly is on a honeymoon season, he should still win 8 games.
I'm not ready for my prediction, yet, until we see what happens during preseason/training camp.
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