Re: Cardinals fans think they fleeced us.
Tutor
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:54:34 -0500, graybeard <graybe...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >And almost unanimously believe Rhodes is an upgrade over Rolle.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/ylz6e52
>
> I suspect most Jets fans agree with them ;(
You think? Reading the Jets message boards it feels like a 3:1, maybe
4:1 approval of shipping Carrie off to Arizona.
My guess is that the decison to dump Rhodes was made a long time ago.
He didn't get along t with the staff and the Rex's staff were very
disappointed in his work ethic and performance. Rhodes was out of
here no matter what. And for the record, I would rather have Rolle and
a 3rd rounder than Rhodes. Unfortunatley, we only got the 3rd
rounder.
Ian White
So what do you think Rex meant earlier in the year when he was
questioned about Rhodes?
�No, I think it�s just between Kerry and I,� he said. �It�s a private
conversation that we�ve had, that we are the only ones that know what
was said in there. Trust me, it�s not a bad thing. It�s just a thing
that I�ll honor my conversation to Kerry.�
--
Ian
Harlan Lachman
buRford <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:54:34 -0500, graybeard <gray...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >And almost unanimously believe Rhodes is an upgrade over Rolle.
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/ylz6e52
>
>
> I suspect most Jets fans agree with them ;(
Even I agree with them. We should have paid Kerry the bonus and then
offered the trade. Making it clear we wanted him gone now lowered his
value.
harlan
Harlan Lachman
<89b3c813-16bc-42e9...@g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Tutor <dcat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
What 3rd rounder? That would have been a good trade. We got a very late
4th round pick this year and next year, a reputed weak draft because
guys came out early, a 7th round pick.
Harlan
Tutor
wrote:
> Tutor wrote:
> > On Mar 7, 3:25 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:54:34 -0500, graybeard <graybe...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>> And almost unanimously believe Rhodes is an upgrade over Rolle.
> >>>http://tinyurl.com/ylz6e52
> >> I suspect most Jets fans agree with them ;(
>
> > You think? Reading the Jets message boards it feels like a 3:1, maybe
> > 4:1 approval of shipping Carrie off to Arizona.
>
> > My guess is that the decison to dump Rhodes was made a long time ago.
> > He didn't get along t with the staff and the Rex's staff were very
> > disappointed in his work ethic and performance. Rhodes was out of
> > here no matter what. And for the record, I would rather have Rolle and
> > a 3rd rounder than Rhodes. Unfortunatley, we only got the 3rd
> > rounder.
>
> So what do you think Rex meant earlier in the year when he was
> questioned about Rhodes?
>
> conversation that we’ve had, that we are the only ones that know what
> was said in there. Trust me, it’s not a bad thing. It’s just a thing
> that I’ll honor my conversation to Kerry.”
>
> --
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I have no doubt that they promised Rhodes they would move him.
What does this say about Rhodes that he was a bad fit on a team with
one of the best rising defenses in the NFL and one of the most player-
friendly coaching staffs in the NFL? Rhodes just doesn't want to put
in the effort. Addition by subtraction here. We are not talking
abouot the same Kerry Rhodes before the big contract. He used that
contract money to pay for the surgery that turned him into Carrie
Rhodes.
Tutor
> In article <eu28p5hf5o2faciqf8rah18395n38gd...@4ax.com>,
>
> buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:54:34 -0500, graybeard <graybe...@invalid.invalid>
> > wrote:
>
> > >And almost unanimously believe Rhodes is an upgrade over Rolle.
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/ylz6e52
>
> > I suspect most Jets fans agree with them ;(
>
> Even I agree with them. We should have paid Kerry the bonus and then
> offered the trade. Making it clear we wanted him gone now lowered his
> value.
>
> harlan
The entire world saw Rhodes lack of effort and dissatisfaction with
the Jets. Yeah... paying him the bonus woulda fooled Biddel...
right... in what lifetime?
Johnctx
> On Mar 8, 4:18 am, Ian White <newsgrops_REM@OVE_ianwhitephoto.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> Tutor wrote:
>>> On Mar 7, 3:25 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:54:34 -0500, graybeard <graybe...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> And almost unanimously believe Rhodes is an upgrade over Rolle.
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ylz6e52
>>>> I suspect most Jets fans agree with them ;(
>>> You think? Reading the Jets message boards it feels like a 3:1, maybe
>>> 4:1 approval of shipping Carrie off to Arizona.
>>> My guess is that the decison to dump Rhodes was made a long time ago.
>>> He didn't get along t with the staff and the Rex's staff were very
>>> disappointed in his work ethic and performance. Rhodes was out of
>>> here no matter what. And for the record, I would rather have Rolle and
>>> a 3rd rounder than Rhodes. Unfortunatley, we only got the 3rd
>>> rounder.
>> So what do you think Rex meant earlier in the year when he was
>> questioned about Rhodes?
>>
>> conversation that we�ve had, that we are the only ones that know what
>> was said in there. Trust me, it�s not a bad thing. It�s just a thing
>> that I�ll honor my conversation to Kerry.�
>>
>> --
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> I have no doubt that they promised Rhodes they would move him.
>
> What does this say about Rhodes that he was a bad fit on a team with
> one of the best rising defenses in the NFL and one of the most player-
> friendly coaching staffs in the NFL? Rhodes just doesn't want to put
> in the effort. Addition by subtraction here. We are not talking
> abouot the same Kerry Rhodes before the big contract. He used that
> contract money to pay for the surgery that turned him into Carrie
> Rhodes.
He had his plunker lopped off?
Did he really have plastic surgery?
Grinch
<gray...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>And almost unanimously believe Rhodes is an upgrade over Rolle.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/ylz6e52
Everybody knows all the faults of the players they've got.
Everybody dreams about the players they're getting.
(Same with us, by the way.)
Harlan Lachman
<823e957a-96c2-40c0...@g4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Tutor <dcat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Read Rhodes quotes about the Jets. This self absorbed guy was trying to
dump on the Jets and he comes off looking like a smelly dump.
h
Tutor
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Here's what this turd had to say. I actually agree with Cimini's
evaluation of it at the end of the article:
In an interview this afternoon with Michael Kay on ESPN radio, former
Jets S Kerry Rhodes unloaded on his old team.
Basically, Rhodes said the defensive coaching staff played favorites,
giving their former Raven players more opportunities than him to make
plays. He took that as "a slap in the face." He also accused the
coaches of not making him feel comfortable, and he ripped the
organization for a smear campaign, claiming it leaked stuff about him
being too preoccupied with his off-the-field interests.
"The D coordinator and the rest of those guys didn't feel like I was
the focal point -- or one of the focal points -- on the defense,"
Rhodes said. "It was more like, 'Oh, we brought in our guys ... and
our guys know the system, so we're going to let them run things and
you guys just learn it and fill in with them,'" Rhodes said. "To me,
it doesn't work that way. Not to sound arrogant, but I've always been
the guy that coaches would say, 'Okay, you run the defense, you help
them get lined up and make plays. It was kind of a slap in the face."
Obviously, Rhodes was referring to Bart Scott, Jim Leonhard and
Marques Douglas, the former Ravens. But if Rhodes' theory is right,
how do you explain that the two best defensive players -- Darrelle
Revis and David Harris -- were holdovers from the previous staff?
"In the beginning, they didn't make me feel the way I think you should
make people feel," Rhodes said. "It just didn't work."
Rhodes seemed particularly offended by those who have questioned his
commitment to football. Coordinator Mike Pettine, who clashed with
Rhodes, said after Rhodes' benching that he wanted the safety to spend
more time at the facility.
"Ridiculous," Rhodes said. "It's an easy way to place blame or shift
the situation to something you want it geared to ... Whenever you have
something that's not going the way you think it should, people always
try to lay blame. I guess some stuff was said. I was an easy target. I
was an easy scapegoat for somebody to say, 'He's worried about other
stuff. He's not putting his all into it and doing what he should be
doing on the field.' It gave those guys an easy way out, just to blame
it on that.
"To hear that stuff kind of bothers me, but I never let it be known
until now."
Rhodes didn't buy the Jets' rationale for making the trade. He said GM
Mike Tannenbaum told him they needed extra draft picks.
"They told me I was the only player they could use to get picks,"
Rhodes said. "I still take that as an excuse. You can get picks for
anybody. You can get picks for Mark Sanchez if you want them, but he's
still there."
My take: For the first 10 games, Rhodes had as many interceptions,
sacks, forced fumbles and fumble recoveries as I did -- zip. He fell
out of favor with this coaching staff and, although Eric Mangini never
will admit it publicly, he, too, was down on Rhodes and regrets the
long-term extension he gave him in 2008.
Is it a coincidence that Rhodes failed to live up to the expectations
of two entirely different coaching staffs? I think you know the answer
to that question.
Tutor
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(quote from a message board):
"So, if I understand correctly, it was the coaches' fault that Kerry
was willing to cash his paycheck as a safety in the NFL but he didn't
want to hit anybody.
Maybe he should have asked Defensive Coordinator Mike Petine to come
on the field and pick him up after Laurence Maroney ran over him.
And, I'm sure, it was Defensive Backfield Coach Dennis Thurman's fault
that Kerry blew his assignment against the Colts, allowing Austin
Collie to run uncovered to the back of the end zone against the Colts
in the playoffs. And whose fault was it when Dallas Clark caught a
touchdown in front of Kerry in the same game--and didn't even get hit?
Goodbye."