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Ritchie

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Sep 23, 2010, 8:54:31 PM9/23/10
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I take what Namath says with a grain of salt. I'm not a big Namath fan
because I think he was well overrated and he is IMO an asshole and a
drunk himself. I also don't think anyone with more INT's than TD's and
only 50% completion ratio belongs in the HOF. The only reason he is in
the HOF is because he was the first real superstar of football and his
guarantee / performance in SB3. Other than that he was no big deal. I
just don't get what people see in him at all. In regards to Edwards,
the Jets could have easily said "we will wait until the legal process
is finished before we take any action". This way they could have
avoided looking so stupid all week long with all their moronic
statements. As the season goes by the more I think that the Rex, the
front office and the players are just morons.

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Ritchie

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Sep 23, 2010, 11:19:17 PM9/23/10
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On Sep 23, 10:27 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> Namath may've been the best pure passer, ever to play in the NFL... with the quickest
> release.  He'd just flick his wrist, and throw a dart 40 yards.  Any statistics are no
> measure, because he had few healthy years, usually playing pretty banged up.
> He wasn't the first superstar, per se, he was one of the first modern sports media stars.

Oh I admit that his skills and mechanics were fantastic but to me
that's not enough to be put into the HOF. In regards to being a
superstar, what you pointed out is what I meant. He was really the
first modern era star as football was becoming even more popular. John
Madden stated that if he had a chance to build a team out of football
players past and present he said that Namath would be his QB hands
down.

> That said, he knows football, knows team sports, & has had his own battle with drinking...
> so, what he said is based on experience.  Just like your opinions on law enforcement
> issues, are based on your experience.  If you had had a drinking problem, and cleaned up,
> would your opinions be worthless?
> Give the guy credit for tackling his personal issues, very publicly, & cleaning himself
> up.

He does know what he is talking about but he, IMO comes across as
arrogant and I cant stand that stupid grin of his.

Ray O'Hara

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Sep 24, 2010, 12:16:42 AM9/24/10
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"Ritchie" <ritch...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 23, 10:27 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> Namath may've been the best pure passer, ever to play in the NFL... with
> the quickest
> release. He'd just flick his wrist, and throw a dart 40 yards. Any
> statistics are no
> measure, because he had few healthy years, usually playing pretty banged
> up.
> He wasn't the first superstar, per se, he was one of the first modern
> sports media stars.

Oh I admit that his skills and mechanics were fantastic but to me
that's not enough to be put into the HOF. In regards to being a
superstar, what you pointed out is what I meant. He was really the
first modern era star as football was becoming even more popular. John
Madden stated that if he had a chance to build a team out of football
players past and present he said that Namath would be his QB hands
down.

======================================================================

.
those of us who saw him play have no doubt he belongs in the HoF and I'm not
a Jets fan


Ritchie

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Sep 24, 2010, 1:04:24 AM9/24/10
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On Sep 24, 12:16 am, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

My father saw him play, was a Jets fan and he said on many occasions
that Namath didn't deserve to be in the HOF. His numbers and
contributions just don't scream HOF.

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Ritchie

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Sep 24, 2010, 2:55:20 PM9/24/10
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> And I've watched him since I was around 10, & never saw arrogance or pretense.
> If anything, even in his hay-day, he was kind of shy & humble (despite the *brash*
> statement before the SB), which was one of the things that drove the women crazy, I was
> always told... his boyish charm.

What i mean about coming across as arrogant is during his interviews
and appearances on TV now, not when he was a player. To me he comes
across as arrogant and I don't like that stupid grin of his. I'm sort
of a different sports fan. I grew up playing football, hockey and I
enjoyed watching both on TV but I didn't have what fans called heroes.
I admired certain sports people but I didn't worship the ground they
walked on like a lot of fans do. Even now I enjoy watching football
and hockey but you wont catch me wearing a team jersey with a players
number / name on it or a team jacket and so on. I guess that is why it
is so hard for me to look at the fans in the stands all dressed and
painted up and not laugh hysterically at how silly they look and act.
You wont catch me at a game either because I hate being surrounded by
a bunch of drunk assholes with beer balls syndrome.

Ritchie

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Sep 24, 2010, 2:57:09 PM9/24/10
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> His numbers may not, although he was the first to pass for 4000 yards in a season... but
> his play on the field, & yes, his contribution to the NFL (as outlined in my previous
> post) are all HOF.  He changed the game

I agree that he did change the game but IMO that doesnt merit being in
the HOF.

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John C TX

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Sep 24, 2010, 3:15:42 PM9/24/10
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On Sep 24, 2:05 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> And I've never seen arrogance from Namath... but we all see things differently.
> On the rest of it, I'm the same as you... never owned a jersey, and while I defend Namath,
> I've never had any sports heros... well, maybe Katerina Witt  ;)
> I used to have season's tickets, but dumped them years ago. I'll still go to a rare game,
> but I hear ya.

He appears to playing off the Jets media attention. He really needs
to shut up.

Ritchie

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Sep 24, 2010, 4:50:13 PM9/24/10
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>
> And I've never seen arrogance from Namath... but we all see things differently.
> On the rest of it, I'm the same as you... never owned a jersey, and while I defend Namath,
> I've never had any sports heros... well, maybe Katerina Witt  ;)

All right, now we're talking! :)

> I used to have season's tickets, but dumped them years ago. I'll still go to a rare game,

> but I hear ya.-

Last time I went to a game was years ago during the Kotite era (yikes)
and haven't been back since. Those hardcore drunken sports fans ruined
it for me.

papa.carl44

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Sep 24, 2010, 7:02:56 PM9/24/10
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"Ritchie" <ritch...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm just curious Richie....do you think once a drunk, always a drunk...never
can change?


papa.carl44

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Sep 24, 2010, 7:06:07 PM9/24/10
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"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Damn, that's what I think everytime I hear a Republican in office...playing
off all that Tea Party attention :-)


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papa.carl44

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Sep 24, 2010, 11:15:04 PM9/24/10
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"buRford" <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:50:13 -0700 (PDT), Ritchie <ritch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> And I've never seen arrogance from Namath... but we all see things
>>> differently.
>>> On the rest of it, I'm the same as you... never owned a jersey, and
>>> while I defend Namath,
>>> I've never had any sports heros... well, maybe Katerina Witt ;)
>>
>>All right, now we're talking! :)
>
> With honorable mention to Maria Sharapova. I actually saw her at a
> Restaurant a while
> back... an Amazon goddess, she's got to be over 6 ft.
> Sad that there haven't been many American athletic babes. When I was
> young, I liked Chris
> Evert, but she reminded me of my girlfriend at the time ;)

>
>>
>>> I used to have season's tickets, but dumped them years ago. I'll still
>>> go to a rare game,
>>> but I hear ya.-
>>
>>Last time I went to a game was years ago during the Kotite era (yikes)
>>and haven't been back since. Those hardcore drunken sports fans ruined
>>it for me.
>
> Kotite? Hmmm, can't place the name ;)


It was a TV show..."You have entered the Kotite Zone"....it was very surreal
and characterized by a guy who always looked like an unmade bed.


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papa.carl44

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Sep 25, 2010, 12:08:36 PM9/25/10
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"buRford" <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
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> Oh, thanks, Carl... I thought maybe it was, "Welcome Back, Kotite." ;)

That was too happy....the show that starred Richie had a very black comedy
plot line in it....funny in a tragic way...and it made thousands cry.


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