2014 Superbowl in NY Metro area ???
Michael
stadium ???
IMHO, I think it is a fun idea to try a cold weather super bowl. For
once, running/defensive teams may have a bit of an edge over the arena
league style teams like the Colts.
The same amount of people will still be watching on TV no matter where
it is held, and all the seats will still be sold out.
The event is significant enough to give a financial benefit to the
locals but short enough so that it wont cause any major disruptions.
It will be fun for Jet and Giant fans to consider that their team will
be playing for a shot at a home Superbowl.
I cant think of one good reason not to hold the game at the new
stadium.
Comments ???
Ray OHara
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> Any opinions on the 2014 Superbowl being held at the new Meadowlands
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SB location was always based on factors other than game weather.
its the weather the week before the game for all the media events that
matters.
papa.carl44
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I think I understand not wanting "bad weather" in some cities....like
Detroit for example....but does it really matter that much in NYC?
Seriously, lots of stuff keeps on keeping on in the Greater NYC area. Plus,
think of all the packages that could put together plays, music venues, top
notch resteraunts etc. I think it would be a good thing. I also think it
is an opportunity (not that I completely agree) for the league to sell the
game to an expanded market that includes Europeans. It's an enormously
expensive event anyway, so why not add some pieces to it that sell to the
crowd who can afford it and also helps the entire region. The folks who can
get a ticket, but don't want to spend the $$$$$ on a NYC hotel can most
likely find something within travel distance to the game they can more
afford. I actually miss games that are played in tough weather.
Dano58
I think it would be awesome, and would hope for a cold windy day with
light snow!
Dan D
Central NJ USA
MZ
I agree. I think NY could be one of the only bad weather cities that
could be a good site. The only other northern city that I think could
host it is Chicago, but the stadium might be too far south. Kraft's
been pushing it hard because I think he wants it to end up in New
England at some point, but Foxboro is too far away, especially
considering the traffic situation.
Michael
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Too far away ??? You mean from Boston ??? How far is the drive
between Boston and the Razor ??? If you stay in NYC and take mass
transit to the New Meadowlands stadium, you are probably in for a good
hour of travel time from your hotel door to the stadium.
Michael
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In order to shut down the city due to bad weather, you would need a
24" snow storm that takes place the day of the game. You have a much
better chance of getting washed out in Miami or Tampa due to a
torrential downpour than you do getting snowed out in NYC/NJ. It may
very well snow... even heavy, but not much chance at all of a storm
that blows the whole works. Even if a few people cant get to the
tame, the TV ratings are the same, the tickets are still sold and so
is all the advertising space.
MZ
Right, but the mass transit can accommodate more people in NY than what
the T can do. On regular gameday in NE, you're in the parking lot alone
for a lot more than an hour. IIRC, the ramp off the highway to rt 1 in
foxboro is single lane too. I haven't been there in a couple years, and
supposedly they fixed (or are planning to fix) some of the pedestrian
problems, which might clear things up a lot. But I'll believe it when I
see it.
Washington might also be a good spot to have it. Although it's not
exactly "northern"..
Ritchie
on a stupid fluke play when a receiver slips on the snow/ice and
coughs up the ball or so on. The SB should not give any team an
advantage and should be in a neutral situation so that both teams are
on equal ground.
Michael
A lot of people are making this same point. It make sense...
Still... I'm leaning more to thinking that the warm weather and dome
teams have had the advantage for too long. One of the things that the
cold weather teams work at doing is executing in the snow, the cold
and the wind. I think this is part of the reason why the passing
teams have the edge in the superbowl. If the Jets had played the
Colts in 15 deg weather with snow in the AFC Champ game and the
Packers played the Cardinals at the tundra in the snow, may be the
superbowl would have been Jets vs. the Pack. Footbal is played in all
kinds of weather all year, why change it for the superbowl ??? So
Manning does not get his little white jersey all dirty ???
Michael
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An hour just in the parking lot ??? That is quite a bit. This past
season, even with all the construction at the Meadowlands and the old
stadium still taking up space, you can get from the highway into the
parking lot and out of your car in about ten minutes. I got off of Rt
17 and on to Patterson Plank road and was parked usually in ten
minutes after getting off the highway. It takes longer to get out,
though. May be about 20 minutes to get back to the highway.
Once the old stadium is out of there, it will be much quicker still.
I read that they did a lot of work on traffic studies to make getting
in and out of the new stadium as painless as possible. They also now
have assigned parking lots depending on your seats/psl, so there wont
be any log jamms.
MZ
Depends on where you park. If you park in the private lots 1-2 mi away
from gillette stadium you can obviously get out a lot quicker. Although
last time I did that, some asshole backed into my car while I was
waiting. I went to the Pats-Titans playoff game back during the '03
season, and because it was so cold (about 0F), I parked in the stadium
lot. I don't remember exactly how long the wait was, but I think it was
around 2 hours before I actually got on to rt 1 and another hour before
I got onto the highway.
papa.carl44
I'm betting they will have lots of special busses and trains in operation
for that event. An hour in something comfortable that will no doubt have
people selling you something won't be as bad as several hours stuck in
traffic.
JK Coney
> Any opinions on the 2014 Superbowl being held at the new Meadowlands
> stadium ???
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Michael
> It's about freakin' time that the Supe gets played, in football weather.
> Both championship games are played outdoors (how many domes are there?).
> Why not the Supe??
>
> On another note... Woody seems to be really gaining some influence in the NFL.
> The Mara's have always had influence, but the difference now is that Woody's been more
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I like Wood a lot as an owner. Although he has not been perfect, he
is dynamic, takes pride in the Jets, spends on the team and has shown
signs that he learns and gets smarter about running the Jets from his
past experience. I credit Woody for bringing in Rex and being the
main guy behind the Sanchez deal. I will also always remember with
great fondness that Woody had the smarts and balls not to go gaga over
Spittle Face.
Ray OHara
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I had P-ats season tix all through the 70s and 80s and I never had trouble
getting to ot from the place.
I'd be home 45 minutes after the game ended. I suppose if you're stupid and
just know one road you might get stuck but for those of us who know the area
it was no hassle.
I'd leave Dedham and take Washingston Street to the Walpole-Fox line drive a
mile down rte 1 and park across the street{not a half mile away}.
MZ
Most of the people are heading to 95 though. And if it was a super bowl
site, most people would definitely be heading to 95. Doesn't really
matter because if you park at the stadium you'll sit there all day
before you even hit the road. Best bet is to take the T in but that
would be a nightmare with a super bowl. I just don't see NE being a
good spot. Dan Snyder's right though. Washington makes all the sense
in the world.
Ray OHara
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NYC makes sense because its NYC, no other cold weather venue makes sense.
where do they put SBs? in cities that are dens of depravity, that is what
your average guy going to a SB wants,
wine women and song.. NYC has all three is plentitude.
Johnctx
MZ, I have been to one game at Gillette. When you are faced with the
option of leaving in the 3Q or tailgating two hours to avoid traffic
something is wrong.
JMac
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I was at Gillette for the Thursday night OT game 2 seasons ago. The
traffic getting in was already pretty bad more than 5 hours before
kickoff. We parked in a gravel lot across Route 1 that I'm pretty
sure was an "official" lot. $40 per car, but on the plus side, there
were porta-johns every 250 feet or so; far more than can be found at
the Meadowlands. Getting out was a complete fiasco. It took well
over 30 minutes just to walk back to the lot (imagine the crowd at the
Meadowlands all having to exit through the pedestrian bridge and
you'll get an idea of the mess that exists there). Once we got to the
lot, it took nearly an hour for any car near us to even move, let
alone get out of the lot. We wound up staying in the lot until about
1am before even trying to leave.
It's a nice stadium, but the location is awful. I don't know what
Kraft was thinking.
Johnctx
Ray, you & the other 9,264 people attending.
Ray OHara
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there were plenty of sellouts.
Ray OHara
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It's a gtreat location. near 1-95-495 and with smaller access roads and the
train stops there for games..
its almost halfway between Bos and Prov along the hiways that connect them
and 495 gives people coming from the west and north good access. a better
location there isn't. what is needed is a direct exit off of 95.
Ray OHara
I suppose if you don't know what you are doing yes.
MZ
It has nothing to do with "knowing what you are doing." You need to
make compromises, bottom line. If you want to get out without having to
wait hours, then you can't park at the stadium. This isn't the case for
a lot of other places. Even if you park in an outside lot, if you're
coming from 95 you have to get there way early to avoid a mile and a
half long lane of cars taking the exit.
As you said in the other post, the problem is rt 1. But that's not the
only problem. The other problem is that the T, although definitely
better than it was 20 yrs ago, doesn't match up to real mass transit
systems. And the third problem, in my view, is that the pedestrian
crossings are idiotic. Supposedly they were going to fix this.
Glenn Greenstein
An hour door to door is what a good commute is to go back and forth
from work outside of Manhattan.
papa.carl44
Should we assume you lead your life reading The Gospels, volunteering at The
Salvation Army and doing crossword puzzles at home? Or should I just assume
you don't get out much....you sure haven't been in NYC in a long time.
Times Square looks like Disney World.
Ray OHara
"MZ" <ma...@nospam.void> wrote in message
there are several parking lots. if you go to the largest and paek way in the
back then yes you'll get stuck.
but one need not do that. there are lots around the area and those lots are
just as close to the stadium trhan the big lot.
as I said I always parked across from the stadiuym. 5 minutes before
kick-off we'd head in and get to our seats during the anthem and then when
the game was over we'd walk back and be home in no time.
and yes we tailgated pre-game.
Johnctx
ray, i am not sure what you experienced bu the siting of that stadium
may be the stupidest thing I have seen. i know he was jerled around by
Southie (Dorchester?) but it is just a nightmare. I could not regularly
attend games. It is just too long a day. Maybe I am spoiled.
MuahMan
He was thinking i'm paying for this myself not making the taxpayers
foot the bill like the fucking imbeciles in NY.